Fetus Fetishist Watch

[Toedancer]

Thanks pookie, that helps. I've sent off a letter to Ms. Ashton cc to Joyce. Funny enuf J had already discussed my suggestion with NA just 2 weeks ago. Fingers crossed, altho what a shitstorm it could create, ha!

[pookie]

Thanks pookie, that helps. I've sent off a letter to Ms. Ashton cc to Joyce. Funny enuf J had already discussed my suggestion with NA just 2 weeks ago. Fingers crossed, altho what a shitstorm it could create, ha!

my pleasure 

[Toedancer]

Warawa's new Motion - 408, which is one line only.

Joyce is asking on FB should we Fight it or Ignore it. I wrote - Year of the Girl launches in October, Warawa is going to work fast. He says in the vid he made yest. that he has ALL parties condeming this practice. But the place to tackle this issue is in addressing cultural attitudes in communities that favour male children, not using this argument to again run at women's access to abortion, as well as the ultrasound imaging teks. Also there are NO statistics that I can find, yet Warawa cites 'studies', is he referring to the CBC investigation that was aired? And btw, the Motion is one sentence, that's it - That the House condemn discrimination against females occuring through sex-selective pregnancy termination. Fight.

I just want to add that every Catholic register, CMA is onside with this, without fucking statistics!! Lifeshite already has a growing petition growing and they are e-mailing MP's constantly. What to do.

ETA - Year of the Girl - Canada is going to be one of the first countries to launch the Year of the Girl next month, celebrating women and girls, he said. He hopes to get unanimous consent for his motion from all the national political parties so his motion can be passed by the time the Year of the Girl is launched in October. http://bcc.rcav.org/canadian/2014-pro-life-forces-rally-around-motion-408-condemning-sex-selection-abortions


ETA - I think I've changed my mind. Pro-Choicers will be Villified by the pressitute and gov't, how to fight back in that atmosphere.

[pogge]

Warawa's motion may be different but it's still the thin end of a wedge. He wants to condemn a particular choice which leads to condemning more choices. People who are pro-choice aren't defending or justifying the individual choices some people make.

[sparqui]

I'm sure the numbers (if we could even find them) do not merit restriction on abortions. It is a wedge and it is racist. Are women of certain ethnic backgrounds going to be treated with a jaundiced eye by their physicians? Are physicians of certain ethnic backgrounds going to be scrutinized?

Regulating and discouraging sex selection termination procedures should be the responsibility of the College of Physician and Surgeons. Let them police for any unethical practices.

[Toedancer]

I'm sure the numbers (if we could even find them) do not merit restriction on abortions. It is a wedge and it is racist. Are women of certain ethnic backgrounds going to be treated with a jaundiced eye by their physicians? Are physicians of certain ethnic backgrounds going to be scrutinized?

Regulating and discouraging sex selection termination procedures should be the responsibility of the College of Physician and Surgeons. Let them police for any unethical practices.

As far as I know the College of P & S have not put out any statement and said in early spring they were not looking at the issue (I'm sure they are now). But I read somewhere that they would prefer a 'higher authority' to make the decisions. I want to listen to who/what Warawa is going to cite as his 'study/stats' and if that person is a member of Physicians For Life. Dr. Rajendra Kale who wrote an article on the subject when he was a temporary editor for CMAJ used the word 'evil' as well as 'repugnant' and then I discovered even tho he is Hindu, he went a Jesuit school. I have no idea if he is a member of P 4 Life. But his simplistic answer was to not disclose the gender to the woman and obviously that is abhorrent to most physicians. It's a complicated subject for sure, but if gender selection abortions cannot be studied in Canada what hope does India/Korea have? I have no doubt this is going to become very convoluted.


ETA - I should add I completely agree this is a wedge to take away choices.

[pogge]

In which the local chapter of the Fetus Fetishists speak up:

Ontario's Progressive Conservatives say they don't plan to re-open the abortion debate, even though three of them sponsored a news conference today to stop public funding of abortions.

Conservatives John O'Toole, Randy Hillier and Rick Nicholls cleared the way for Campaign Life to use the legislature's media studio to announce a province-wide campaign to "defund" abortions.

PC finance critic Peter Shurman says the debate on abortion is closed, and his three colleagues are acting "entirely on their own," and are allowed to have their own opinions on the issue.

Adding... According to a CBC reporter at Queen's Park, the three MPP's may have sponsored the press conference, but no MPPs attended.

[Boom Boom]

Mulcair is on CBC denouncing the Conservative's attempt to re-open the abortion debate - I'm not up to speed on what the latest Conservative tactic is. Anyone? 

[Toedancer]

Conservative MP Mark Warawa is holding a news conference at 1 p.m. ET to discuss his upcoming (next spring?) private member's motion to condemn sex-selection abortions. Watch a livestream of his news conference here and discuss it with us. Could we see another split in the Conservative caucus
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[Toedancer]

Okay I know these 3 clowns are making fools of themselves and gawd knows they'll try everything twice and thrice in their desperation to make women PAY for wanting to control their own bodies  HEREWEGOAGAIN


But as MP's doncha think they should at the very least know the RCMP are not allowed to go into the private medical files of patients? Or is that about to change? Should we start a new rumour EM style? Will the DSM8 come up with a new diagnostic tool for those displaying OCD signs over uteri?  They're fucking Loons!

[Boom Boom]

  The RCMP should investigate how the MPs got ahold of private information!

[pogge]

Straight.com: Three Conservative MPs beg RCMP to examine late-term abortions as homicides

The letter states: "These killings appear to have started out as attempted abortions, but the babies were born alive."

Their "proof"? A blog post from October 19, 2012, that claims, "From 2000 to 2009 in Canada, there were 491 abortions, of 20 weeks gestation and greater, that resulted in live births."

The blog's author explains that she came up with this number after looking through Statistics Canada's statistics on deaths during the perinatal period, specifically the section entitled "Termination of pregnancy, affecting fetus and newborn".

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For those playing at home, here's why a woman would have an abortion after 20 weeks:

• The fetus is likely going to die
• The woman carrying the fetus is likely going to die
• All of the above

More at the link.

[Toedancer]

Love to know if their psyches are problematic with mother issues. And shouldn't they be busted for being a mini-cult?

[sparqui]

Even Harper sounded embarrassed despite his dead pan tone when he stated that his government wouldn't be opening up the abortion debate ever.

[Toedancer]

Wed. night at the Uni of Waterloo, all hell broke loose with Stephen Woodworth


Woodworth shouted down - student dressed as a vagina - the c word used by the woman in the red dress


Here is the letter from the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedom


which suggests charging the students with trespassing