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« Reply #75 on: November 08, 2007, 06:31:46 AM »
Well... I don't quite agree - the conditions of isolation of the Soviet Revolution and the defeats of revolutions in other countries (especially Germany) that led to Stalinism - and to fascism, of course are certainly the fault of capitalism, but there can be no whitewashing over the crimes of Stalinism.

That said, the revolutionary wave in the wake of the Great War was a magnificent movement, with impacts as far as Winnipeg and elsewhere.
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« Reply #76 on: November 20, 2007, 10:12:05 PM »
birthdays for November 20th:

Robert F. Kennedy
American politicial leader (1925)

Norman M. Thomas
socialist leader (1884)

Edwin Hubble
astronomer (1889)

Alexandra Danilova
ballerina, teacher (1903)

Alistair Cooke
journalist, broadcaster (1908)

Nadine Gordimer
writer (1923)

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« Reply #77 on: November 23, 2007, 10:31:54 AM »
I don't see a dedicated 22 November JFK thread -- I'm a day late, and I've written out my memories of that day too often before, but it does always come back to me, clear as a bell.

There are a lot of versions of the Zapruder film on the web -- I don't know which is most to be trusted. But in every one I've seen, it's entirely clear that Kennedy was shot at least twice, and that second shot really looks as though it came from the front.

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« Reply #78 on: November 23, 2007, 10:49:15 AM »
I've been reading an article in Playboy  :oops:  on the JFK science and the Zapruder film is much discussed.

http://www.playboy.com/magazine/feature ... age01.html
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« Reply #79 on: November 23, 2007, 11:44:47 AM »
Vincent Bugliosi, the guy who wrote Helter Skelter was on the radio the other day with Michael Enright I think.  He has written a book about Kennedy concluding that Oswald did it, by himself.  They went through some of the  myths.  It sounded interesting.
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« Reply #80 on: November 23, 2007, 02:54:30 PM »
Quote from: ReWind.it
I've been reading an article in Playboy  :oops:  on the JFK science and the Zapruder film is much discussed.


I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that to be the first time anyone on here has linked to that particular magazine.  ;)
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« Reply #81 on: November 23, 2007, 02:57:05 PM »
It's a good article, though. Of course, I've only ever read Playboy for the articles. Like everyone else. I mean, why else?

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« Reply #82 on: November 23, 2007, 02:58:59 PM »
Quote from: Holly Stick
Vincent Bugliosi, the guy who wrote Helter Skelter was on the radio the other day with Michael Enright I think.  He has written a book about Kennedy concluding that Oswald did it, by himself.  They went through some of the  myths.  It sounded interesting.


I heard that Holly... it was very interesting - a lot of the things I had become convinced of were exposed to be more fable than actuality.
"It is also a good rule not to put overmuch confidence in the observational results that are put forward until they are confirmed by theory." -- Arthur Stanley Eddington

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« Reply #83 on: November 24, 2007, 11:50:27 AM »
Gawd.  People really ought to read more fiction.  Especially spy and skullduggery fiction.  If they did they'd know you never put all your eggs in one basket nor depend on only one assassin.  You make sure you have backup.  Each backup team thinks it is the ONLY team and the safety of the world depends on them. (him). (her).  Thus the sacrificial dweeb in the book repository fired a shot.  Bingo.  And the lucky sacrificial dweeb on the grassy knoll fired a shot.  Bingo.  And the unmentioned sacrifical dweeb fired a shot nobody noticed in the kerfuffle.  Bingo.

And then the scurrying started to cover asses publicly exposed.

And "the mob" was in partnership with Aristotle Onassis.

And it was revenge for the death of Marilyn Monroe.

And anyone who got close to the truth got offed.

And there are no myths or fables, it was raw politics.

And, oh, Opus Dei and Prieure de Zion, and The London Cabal and ....

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« Reply #84 on: November 24, 2007, 12:43:33 PM »
And there's a will in it somewhere.  And the butler did it.  And the mysterious stranger was really a long lost twin brother...

Sorry, I read cosy British mysteries.
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« Reply #85 on: November 24, 2007, 02:17:22 PM »
The butler is actually the fraternal triplet of the twins.  He was left on the steps of the cathedral shortly after birth because he had a cleft palate and their mother felt nobody would want to adopt him anyway... the father is Home Secretary, unhappily married to a barren Baronness but can't acknowledge the kids because of ...that damned will, again...

Where there's a will there's a way, and so the flawed triplet was left way out of the picture for years

until

The mob boss realized it was the same guy who had two-timed him with his girlfriend (she's in cement shoes at the bottom of the river , by the way) who had given the order to have MM offed.  He had so enjoyed "Some Like It Hot" he had his own copy of the film and watched it at least twice a week.  Finding out MM had been deliberately murdered by injecting a mysterious substance into her inner elbow so pissed him off, especially coming as it did so soon after his realization he'd been double-timed, tipped him over the edge.  Throwing all caution to the winds he started hiring contract killers and dweebs.

Later, he gave the order to have Jack Ruby killed.  He bribed prison guards and they dosed Rubys' meals with a cumulative poison, then said he died of cancer...

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« Reply #86 on: November 24, 2007, 02:35:59 PM »
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Gawd. People really ought to read more fiction. Especially spy and skullduggery fiction.


anne - are you trying to tell us that Boom Boom  :spy:  :spy:  :spy:  was involved?
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« Reply #87 on: November 24, 2007, 09:36:43 PM »
No way am I going to rat out Boom Boom.  I ain't no canary!  I'm not droppin the dime on my good buddy.

Ya kin pull out my fingernails and waterboard me all you want, I'm not ratting out Boom Boom.

oh god the dentists drill?
Boom Boom yer on yer own, good buddy!

NO NO PLEASE NOT THE DENTISTS DRILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #88 on: November 24, 2007, 09:54:27 PM »
I have something even more effective than a dentist's drill.  :spy:

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« Reply #89 on: November 24, 2007, 10:08:15 PM »
Boomer, please...get me outta here...I'm tryin to hang in , I'm tryin to keep my lip zipped, I don't wanna be a rat, I don wanna sing like a canary but they've got the dentist drill

Boom-ole-buddy if you've got something more effective than the dentists drill please for the love'a'gawd use it and get me outta here...

Boom, dontcha remember the good times?
What about the time we put that guy on an inflatable raft we bought at Eddy Bauers...tied hand and feet...the fun we had packin' the sticks'a dynamite around him...and the stick you so cunningly rammed up his nevermind...and the fuse...and..remember Boom-ole-buddy...and he floated down the river..we stood on the bridge drinkin beer...and he went under the bridge so we walked to the other side and...and 'member, I said to you, 'member?  I said So THAT'S why they call you BoomBoom.  And you smiled...'Member?

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