Demonizing Iran: making the lies respectable

[sparqui]

The good news is that the highest scored comments are all thoughtful and supportive of Caplan. 

[Toedancer]

Natty Post shilling for CSIS, CSIS shilling for Israel and War.
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/Iran%2Burgent%2Bnuclear%2Bthreat%2BCSIS/6094833/story.html

[Holly Stick]

It sounds like the US Generals don't want a war:


http://www.juancole.com/2012/02/the-generals-try-to-stop-an-iran-war.html

[Toedancer]

I saw that. But I've seen other reports where to expect Israel to commence the war this spring and I just read an article where U.S. is selling more bunker buster bombs to be delivered very soon. Who tf knows, but if it happens I do believe Israel is going to be badly bodychecked.


P.S. LMAO, but Business comes before War!


http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-740445?ref=feeds%2Flatest

Three Iranian businessmen are expected to attend Agritech Israel 2012, where they will buy advanced agricultural equipment, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Wednesday.

The report noted that should any deals mature during the exhibition, the equipment will be transferred to Iran via a third party.

[Toedancer]

President Obama invokes the NDAA, which authorizes the use of military force, and issues an executive order declaring the “threat” of Iran a National Emergency. Feb. 6 on C-Span.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f23uQr7TIMo#!

Wait....this came in my Google group, should be disclaimer such as:

It is currently only to enforce the sanctions described by the NDAA, but it does give him the right to go to war if need be...doesn't mean he has declared war...just yet...but does mean he is invoking the power to call upon the "nations" to enforce the sanctions.

[Toedancer]

This is kinda fascinating. U.S. officials tell NBC news that Israel teams with terrorist group MEK to kill Iranian nuclear scientists. U.S. says no involvement.
http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/08/10354553-israel-teams-with-terror-group-to-kill-irans-nuclear-scientists-us-officials-tell-nbc-news


Mek says not us, it's Khamenei who orders their deaths if they consider defection.

(The MEK has denied these allegations,issuing a statement calling them “absolutely false.”)

There is no way to corroborate their info and that makes it questionable. I remembered reading in a Salon article - But on December 23, a group of leading conservatives — including Rudy Giuliani and former Bush officials Michael Mukasey, Tom Ridge, and Fran Townsend — did exactly that. In Paris, of all places, they appeared at a forum organized by supporters of the Mujaheddin-e Khalq (MEK) — a group declared by the U.S. since 1997 to be “terrorist organization” — and expressed wholesale support for that group. Worse — on foreign soil — they vehemently criticized their own country’s opposition to these Terrorists and specifically “demanded that Obama instead take the [] group off the U.S. list of foreign terrorist organizations and incorporate it into efforts to overturn the mullah-led government in Tehran.”

http://www.salon.com/2011/01/03/fran_townsend_terrorism/singleton/

Wonder wtf is going on now?

[Toedancer]

The IAEA's board of governors "is scheduled to convene on March 5 in Vienna, the same day on which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is due to give a speech in Washington at a meeting of the annual policy conference of the pro-Israel lobby AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee," Haaretz disclosed.

But guess what's happening on March 2nd? Netanyahoo will be here with Harper. No word on what Yahoo will do after the 2nd of March and before the 5th.

So many coincidences eh? P.S. CBC is calling this meeting a 'reward' for Harper being so pro-Israel.

[Antonia]

  You're freaking me out.

[Toedancer]

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1134197--israeli-prime-minister-benjamin-netanyahu-to-visit-canada


Notice the Star quotes Harper - “Their statements imply to me no hesitation about using nuclear weapons if they see them achieving their religious or political purposes. Which we all know is pure propaganda.
Key word is 'weapons'. The IAEA is there to 'gauge allegations that Iran is pushing toward making an atomic weapon.'  They don't have one, but Iran has the 'capability' of making one. Netanyahu is pissed (@ Dempsey) the whole world is telling him to step back and let the sanctions work yada yada. So he's coming to Canada/U.S./AIPAC to do some convincing. The question is will Harper also tell Netty to cool off. Will Harper use the bff status to encourage peace talks?
But a new Senate effort to move the goalposts of U.S. policy to declare it "unacceptable" for Iran to develop a nuclear weapons capability - not a nuclear weapon, but the technical capacity to create one - gives AIPAC the opportunity to make a choice which all can observe. If the Lieberman resolution becomes an ask for AIPAC lobbyists at the March AIPAC policy conference, then the world will know: AIPAC is lobbying Congress for war with Iran.

AIPAC is going to make it impossible for the U.S. to enter into peace talks.

Sponsors of the Lieberman resolutiondeny that it is an "authorization for military force," and in a legal, technical sense, they are absolutely correct: it is not a legal authorization for military force. But it is an attempt to enact apolitical authorization for military force. It is an attempt to pressure the Administration politically to move forward the tripwire for war, to a place indistinguishable from the status quo that exists today. If successful, this political move would make it impossible for the Administration to pursue meaningful diplomatic engagement with Iran, shutting down the most plausible alternative to war. (my bold)

One way or another the world will know.

Anyone who supports the Lieberman bill is declaring themselves for war. If AIPAC makes the Lieberman bill an ask for its March policy conference, then at least we'll be done with the pretense that AIPAC is doing anything besides trying to get the U.S. into another Middle East war.
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/1154

[Toedancer]

While we wait to see what happens with Yahoo and the AIPAC meeting, Iran has now joined the lunatic fringe in saying they will also take pre-emptive action if they feel they are under threat.  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/21/iran-tension-threat-pre-emptive-action


Which is very sad and bad, cuz if there was a False Flag, we'd never know who started it. It ups the ante and there is no Red Phone or Cooler Heads to prevail.


There is an article where Iran says the IAEA sent Experts and not Inspectors, so only talks. "The titles of the members of the visiting delegation is not inspectors. This is an expert delegation. The purpose of visit is not inspection," said Mehmanparast. "The aim is to negotiate about cooperation between Iran and the agency and to set a framework for a continuation of the talks."[/size]Visits to individual Iranian nuclear sites were also not part of the IAEA earlier visit three weeks ago.[/font]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10104779

[Toedancer]

Ceerist on a cracker, read this and tell me these people are not pathologically insane.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/29/world/middleeast/us-sees-iran-attacks-as-likely-if-israel-strikes.html


Not a word about negotiating cooperation, nada. Apparently having 40 missiles hit Tel Aviv is better than a nuclear Iran. Maniacal Netanyahoo meets with Obama Monday, however meets with Harper on the weekend, so no press, that's convenient.

[Toedancer]

Tomorrows the big day. Will Harper side with Yahoo or Obama?


Israel wants to force famine on the Iranian people. I guess the brain trust in Israel think a starving populace will rise up and on its gov't. Colossal stupidity and wouldn't that be a crime against humanity. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4196885,00.html


Who will Harper side with? Wow caught between 2 allies, he must be feeling somewhat empowered now! I can't wait to hear the talking points tomorrow. No doubt they will be so tightly worded, we won't be able to read between the lines. Let's face it if he goes with Israel he won't be voted back in, that's what he'll base his decision on. But with Apartheid Week coming up, he's on a tightrope. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/in-ottawa-visit-netanyahu-will-seek-backing-for-strike-on-iran/article2354758/

[Toedancer]

Check this pic out. Bibi and Harper in the JP. Harper looks like a fucking clown and Bibi looks like he just got away with something. Or maybe Dudley Moore just pinched him from heaven. But what a great shot. No I haven't read the article, I can't read anymore Bibi/Israel/Iran articles. Bibi is totally losing his shit and the REAL reason he wants to strike Iran RIGHT NOW is because the whole world is catching on the 'existential threat' line might be a tad misleading.
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=260227

[Alison]

Notable that JPost continues to refer to Bob Rae as leader of the opposition.

[Toedancer]

And Bibi to meet w/ Mr. Rae.