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ReWind.it

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« Reply #210 on: January 16, 2008, 12:28:55 PM »
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« Reply #211 on: January 16, 2008, 12:38:33 PM »
The firing is despicable. That said on a human cost-benefit analysis, I don't think Chalk River should have been shut down.  The good down by medical isotopes far outweighed the miniscule potential of a nuclear accident, in my opinion.
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« Reply #212 on: January 16, 2008, 12:42:02 PM »
There is a lot of reading involved, Caissa, but it seems that the issue of dwindling supplies of medical grade isotopes was a red herring and/or a crisis created by the Harpocrites to give the appearance of higher moral ground.  :evil:
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« Reply #213 on: January 16, 2008, 01:35:25 PM »
Check out Politics n Poetry and others.  They could probably have gotten isotopes elsewhere but it would affect the corporation's profits and Harper is always ready to risk Canadian lives for profits.
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« Reply #214 on: January 16, 2008, 02:06:26 PM »
I just posted on The Daily Kos.

Don't know if it will get any attention. Figured it was worth a shot.

The Canadian Nu-ku-leer games.


I included Steves email.
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« Reply #215 on: January 16, 2008, 02:30:22 PM »
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I included Steves email.
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 :popcorn  :applause:
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« Reply #216 on: January 16, 2008, 02:33:32 PM »
Great diary, pale.

I thought I had an account and was going to give you a comment, but I didn't and now I have to wait 24 hrs before I can comment. So sorry.

ETA: Heh. That's 24 hrs. I first wrote 24 yrs. Even Kos isn't that bad.  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #217 on: January 16, 2008, 03:07:55 PM »
I don't know if these websites have been linked here, but these two groups have information about the nuclear industry in Ontario:


http://ottawariverkeeper.ca/issues/chalk_river_nuclear_facilities/

http://www.waterkeeper.ca/

ETA: thanks, Rewind, for the editing. :applause:
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« Reply #218 on: January 16, 2008, 03:29:19 PM »
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I thought I had an account and was going to give you a comment, but I didn't and now I have to wait 24 hrs before I can comment. So sorry.

ETA: Heh. That's 24 hrs. I first wrote 24 yrs. Even Kos isn't that bad.  :mrgreen:


Thanks skdadl...

it's pretty candidate driven there at the moment....Normally nuclear gets a reaction....But it will be there later if someone is looking it up....
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« Reply #219 on: January 16, 2008, 03:54:43 PM »
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As far as I can tell, the AECL's version of events first surfaced in this Winnipeg Sun article from Jan. 10th, though it didn't turn up in my Google News feed until last night.

At first blush, I think the two crucial questions are:
1) Was the connection of the two pumps to the EPS a condition of the licence or not?
2) Did the AECL confirm that was done in the letter of Dec. 31, 2006 or not?

If the answers to both of those are unambiguously "yes" then I don't think it matters a lot what else the AECL is saying.


It is not uncommon for a major plant to operate temporarily outside it's normal license. The provincial (in most cases) regulators are brough in an informed of the deviation and approved procedures are developed.

The letter allowing this to happen usually contrains: 1) a specific description of the deviation, 2) steps to be taken to return the plant to usual, legal conditions and 3) a time line for this to happen. (The time can be somewhat flexable - as in maybe a week).

An 'incident' is very much dependant upon the time - the longer the plant runs outside it's normal parameters (w/o it's back up pumps in this case)) the greater the possibility of something happeneing.

This stems from an South African incident at an isomax unit. where temporary piping was used to bypass a reactor. It was forgotten about and after 5 years ruptured and (I have seen the pictures) there was nothing, nothing left standing in the unit area.
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« Reply #220 on: January 16, 2008, 06:04:31 PM »
Good discussion on this on Don Newman's Politics broadcast tonight, guests reminding us that Harper fundamentally distrusts the Ottawa bureaucracy. And, saying that Linda Keen was fired the same way that Harper fired the head of the Canadian Wheat Board, by making their positions unsustainable with regards to government by publicly undermining them. One The last guest, Daniel _____ from Radio-Canada said he lives nearby to many Ottawa mandarins high up in the civil service, and these guys say they will all leave if Harper gets a majority - because Harper is such an asshole and distrusts them so much (okay, I paraphased that a bit). If Harper gets a majority next time, he'll face a dramatic shortage of skilled and capable Ottawa veterans.
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« Reply #221 on: January 16, 2008, 09:22:17 PM »
Harpie's goin' doooooooooooown!

So long as the Opposition get their shit together, as opposed to the knot it's been in, to play with just a coupla rural SK phrases...
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« Reply #222 on: January 17, 2008, 03:34:45 AM »
Hmmm. My gut is still telling me people won't punish Harper just yet; and Dion's given the people no reason not to continue on as is.
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« Reply #223 on: January 17, 2008, 08:17:31 AM »
That's my fear too, Coyote, and yet I think some problems are brewing for Harper. We need to push the msm harder -- they still haven't been convinced that Mr Nasty really is, and we need that.

Peter MacKay's slavering sell-out of the troops to friggin' U.S. SecDef Gates needs to be added to the repertoire. God, but MacKay is awful.
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« Reply #224 on: January 17, 2008, 10:05:28 AM »
I thought Dion seemed hot to move on this issue, but wait, it must be the polls I haven't taken into consideration... :roll:
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