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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2006, 04:16:40 PM »
Probably because he still wants to have a career after Bush. Bush will go in 2008 and Rove will still be a power behind the throne for the next president. That would make many a person tread lightly
When you're on your own
When you're at a fork in the road
You don't know which way to go
There's too many signs and arrows
You haven't laughed in a while
When you can't even fake a smile
When you feel ashamed...
The uniform don't make you brave

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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2006, 04:19:12 PM »
Because he enjoys Whitehouse protection.
So he doesn't have to make anymore public statements.
So no more light will be shed.

And what Bacchus said.
"Democracy is not the law of the majority, it's the protection of the minority." -Albert Camus 1913-1960

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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2006, 04:26:07 PM »
Fitzgerald is a terrier.

I don't believe that he would have quit for no reason. I want to know why he quit.

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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2006, 04:42:19 PM »
Follow pogge's Washington Note link over to firedoglake.

Terrific read.

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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2006, 10:58:11 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2006, 08:02:59 AM »
But where would we be without The Daily Show's take on this?

Snakes on a Plame!

Jon Stewart is God. :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:

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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2006, 11:22:41 AM »
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Fitzgerald is a terrier.

I don't believe that he would have quit for no reason. I want to know why he quit.

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July 13, 2006 -- BREAKING NEWS -- WMR reported yesterday the following on Patrick Fitzgerald's free pass to Robert Novak. We wrote, "By gaming the judicial process to favor the White House, Fitzgerald, who has reportedly been pressured by Cheney's uber-counsel and Chief of Staff David Addington and the Attorney General, is giving the Bush administration a number of escape routes in the CIA leak case -- postponing the Libby trial until after the elections and after the expected Bush pardon of Libby at the end of December; running out the clock on the three-year statute of limitations on a potential civil lawsuit by Ambassador Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson, starting from the dates of the original wrongful actions by the Bush White House -- in July 2003, although there are indications that the "work up" on Wilson and his wife may have commenced as early as March 2003."


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http://waynemadsenreport.com/index.php

ETA: What? 3 year limitation for a civil lawsuit? Holy Shite!
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2006, 11:29:42 AM »
I don't want to believe that. I had such a crush on Patrick Fitzgerald.   :(

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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2006, 02:43:07 PM »
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There are some hugely important aspects of the Bush presidency that remain insufficiently examined, and the most important are about the run-up to war in Iraq.

Polls show that a majority of Americans believe President Bush and his associates intentionally misled the public in making their case for war. It's a terribly serious charge, if true. In fact, it's hard to imagine a more serious charge against a president.

But is it true?

Did Bush, Vice President Cheney and others know the intelligence they were citing wasn't reliable? Did they purposefully understate the considerable doubts within the intelligence community? Did they consciously exaggerate the extent of the findings?

And after the war, when critics began to emerge, why were they so obsessed with discrediting anyone who suggested as much, rather than just responding with a factual defense?

With a few partial exceptions , the media has proven itself unable to answer these questions definitively.

There were once two promising official lines of inquiry. Special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald, by all accounts, has collected a considerable amount of related information in the process of investigating the leak of CIA agent Valerie Plame's identity during a White House drive to discredit her husband.

But it looks as though he's not going to make public most of what he's found out, apparently having decided to limit himself to a narrowly defined obstruction-of-justice case against former vice presidential chief of staff Scooter Libby.

And the Senate Intelligence Committee long ago ostensibly committed itself to investigating the administration's use of the faulty intelligence. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid even shut down the Senate eight months ago to force Republicans to speed up the investigation.

But as Tim Starks writes for Congressional Quarterly, the committee's efforts remain, charitably speaking, "in limbo."

Yesterday's filing of a civil lawsuit in the CIA leak case is quite possibly a legal dead-end, and arguably a thinly veiled attempt at political harassment. Nevertheless, it offers what may now be the most possible avenue of uncovering the truth.

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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2006, 09:09:59 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2006, 09:16:55 PM »
Here's the Snakes on a Plame link its in the July 14 listing. :rotfl:
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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2006, 12:20:17 PM »
Plame Considering Suing Armitage

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Former CIA officer Valerie Plame is considering suing the recent No. 2 State Department official in a case accusing members of the Bush administration of conspiring to leak her identity to the media, Plame's attorney said Tuesday.

Official State Department calendars, provided to The Associated Press under the Freedom of Information Act, show then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage held a one-hour meeting marked "private appointment" with Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward on June 13, 2003.

That was the same day Woodward met with a confidential source who spoke to him about Plame, according to a person familiar with information gathered by prosecutors. The person spoke only on condition of anonymity because the material remains sealed.

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« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2006, 03:19:17 PM »
Debra -- excuse me: April Reign -- linked to this latest development  today on the freesite, so I transfer it here:

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One mystery solved.

It was Richard Armitage, when he was deputy secretary of state in July 2003, who first disclosed to conservative columnist Robert Novak that the wife of former ambassador Joseph Wilson was a CIA employee.


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Whether he had purposefully mentioned this information to Novak or had slipped up, Armitage got the ball rolling -- and abetted a White House campaign under way to undermine Wilson. At the time, top White House aides -- including Karl Rove and Scooter Libby -- were trying to do in Wilson. And they saw his wife's position at the CIA as a piece of ammunition. As John Dickerson wrote in Slate, senior White House aides that week were encouraging him to investigate who had sent Joe Wilson on his trip. They did not tell him they believed Wilson's wife had been involved. But they clearly were trying to push him toward that information.

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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2006, 05:55:20 PM »
What Valerie Plame Really Did at the CIA

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In the spring of 2002 Dick Cheney made one of his periodic trips to CIA headquarters. Officers and analysts were summoned to brief him on Iraq. Paramilitary specialists updated the Vice President on an extensive covert action program in motion that was designed to pave the way to a US invasion. Cheney questioned analysts about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. How could they be used against US troops? Which Iraqi units had chemical and biological weapons? He was not seeking information on whether Saddam posed a threat because he possessed such weapons. His queries, according to a CIA officer at the briefing, were pegged to the assumptions that Iraq had these weapons and would be invaded--as if a decision had been made.

Though Cheney was already looking toward war, the officers of the agency's Joint Task Force on Iraq--part of the Counterproliferation Division of the agency's clandestine Directorate of Operations--were frantically toiling away in the basement, mounting espionage operations to gather information on the WMD programs Iraq might have. The JTFI was trying to find evidence that would back up the White House's assertion that Iraq was a WMD danger. Its chief of operations was a career undercover officer named Valerie Wilson.

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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2006, 09:21:59 AM »
Media Misses the Point On C.I.A. Leak Story

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To observe the Washington press corps is to wonder why so many people who don’t remember what happened yesterday and can’t master basic logic are expected to analyze politics and policy. The latest developments in the Valerie Plame Wilson case—as revealed in Hubris, a new book by Michael Isikoff and David Corn—proved once more that the simplest analysis of facts is beyond the grasp of many of America’s most celebrated journalists.
 
What Messrs. Corn and Isikoff reveal, among other things, is that the first official to reveal Valerie Wilson’s covert identity as a C.I.A. operative to columnist Robert Novak in June 2003 was Richard Armitage, who then served as Deputy Secretary of State. Unlike other Bush administration figures who were involved in leaking Ms. Wilson’s identity, such as Karl Rove and Lewis (Scooter) Libby, Mr. Armitage was known to be unenthusiastic about the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
 
From those two facts, numerous pundits and talking heads have deduced that Mr. Rove and Mr. Libby were guiltless, that there was no White House effort to expose Ms. Wilson, and that the entire leak investigation was a partisan witch hunt and perhaps an abuse of discretion by the special counsel, Patrick Fitzgerald. The same pundits now proclaim that Mr. Armitage’s minor role somehow proves the White House didn’t seek to punish Valerie Wilson and her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, for his decision to publicly debunk the Presidential misuse of dubious intelligence from Niger concerning Iraq’s alleged attempts to purchase yellowcake uranium.
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