is part 1 of Amy Goodman's interview, broadcast yesterday, with Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, the first interview they've given since their names, his especially, were dragged through the mud repeatedly by Sarah Palin and John McCain (remember him?).
Apparently there will be a part 2, although that was plenty for me. Ayers and Dohrn are obviously two thoughtful, intelligent people, and I have no problem with most of what they say, although I think they do a bit of fancy footwork on their own pasts and the history of the Weatherman. There are lines most of us can't forget -- Dohrn's reported statement about the Manson/LaBianca killings, eg -- but then we all do stupid things when we're young. They aren't coming completely clean when they say that no one died because of Weatherman projects, or that they never intended anyone to die. It doesn't matter what you intended if someone actually does die, and a nail bomb ain't no birthday card.
They are right, though, about the desperate anger that people felt over the war especially and the race wars in the U.S. When you know for sure that your cops are murdering people at will, what do you do?
Bill is also kinda verbose for me; she is a much better speaker, always was. She also looks terrific for a woman our age (she would be about three years older than I am).