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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #480 on: April 26, 2012, 07:51:21 PM »
Should I be posting here re: the upcoming Chicago NATO summit? Judging from what I'm seeing we may need a sep. thread, but I dunno, like the gyu says may just be like the Y2K bust.


Evacuating Chicago? Are the PTB expecting al-queda or something. Of course this is Obama's hometown and Emanuel is the Mayor, extra precautions may be required.



http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/25/milwaukee-red-cross-told-to-prep-for-chicago-evacuation-during-nato-summit/


But just before the Summit on May 2-9 our combined military are doing an exercise called Ardent Sentry 2012
http://www.northcom.mil/News/2012/042412.html
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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #481 on: May 11, 2012, 02:34:03 PM »
Oh look how well our taxpayer money is being spent. And what do the Cons know we don't? Something is up for sure. 10 years for wearing a mask, (during a riot) which must be called. The Liberals/NDP were accused of joining up together in this. Because you know, they asked qweshions about it. The sponsor of this Bill is Blake Richards MP for the those Wild Roses. It's mentioned it's the cops who want this Bill. So open to abuse I can't properly respond right now.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/08/pol-riot-mask-ban-committee.html




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« Reply #482 on: May 11, 2012, 03:16:03 PM »
It is ghastly. Remember that the first "Anonymous" Guy Fawkes masks were worn by former Scientologists, speaking out against that very dangerous sect. Will they also jail the Bread and Puppet type theatres, the people who wear enormous masks of Harper or whomever? Or people covering their faces in -30 weather, as at our series of antiwar demos in 2003?

There is existing legislation on the books against disguise or masks in order to commit a crime.

And ten years in jail? Most rapists don't get that.
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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #483 on: May 11, 2012, 04:20:14 PM »
Guess Harper wants to go ahead with the megaprisons after all - and fill them with protestors.

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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #484 on: May 11, 2012, 04:42:37 PM »
Is it still to pre-mature to call the Harper regime fascist?
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« Reply #485 on: May 11, 2012, 05:31:54 PM »
When you think about it this is a pre-crime law. They haven't fully unloaded the Agenda, which they know will lead to mass protest. So what's coming next?
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« Reply #486 on: May 11, 2012, 07:22:30 PM »
Is it still to pre-mature to call the Harper regime fascist?

From: The rise of Totalitarianism in Canada: A Time to Act
 
29.  Facebook has been a very busy place for me over the past year as a way to share thoughts, observations and news widely as it breaks. The one thing I have noticed is that people are more willing to call this [ahem] government what it is: fascism. We are willing to risk breaching “Godwin’s Law” to speak the truth while documenting the systematic dismantling of Canada’s democracy.

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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #487 on: May 11, 2012, 07:26:37 PM »
Is it still to pre-mature to call the Harper regime fascist?

Regina Mom:  Canada creeps toward becoming a closed society
 
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Canada is creeping towards closing down as a society, to becoming a fascist state.

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« Reply #488 on: May 11, 2012, 09:49:26 PM »
You know it's not so much in labelling this gob as it is in the fact they know what's coming soon. Rather than be all U.S. centric (as Americans are) it's more a matter of watching what's happening in Europe, the elections, the economics of it. Poor EU countries like Greece had elections, no coalition has been formed, so they may have to go to elections again. Funny that, they are broke and ready to leave the EU, in deep with austerity, strikes, protests, vandalism etc. yet somehow money is found behind the couch to stage another election. Why is that? It's obvious these big gyus like Merkel, (Sarkozy gone) have to have Democracy to do their thing, when it is just as obvious democracy is a pain in the ass for the technocrats of the EU/IMF etc. Their not in the least interested in that cloak, but apparently they must have it, but it's only a word now they can bandy about. It's almost meaningless. Look at the U.S. they're in an election between 2 clones for crying out loud, where's the democracy. Harper has no use for it either. All these big gyus don't care for it. Which leads me to believe we're looking at a whole lotta shit hitting the fan very soon. If there is hyper-inflation, wars with Syria/Iran, who is going to get the resources? Not us, that's ferrsure, the MIC will get it. Sounds like I'm on some kind of conspiracy ride eh? But when you connect the dots, it's not hard to figure out at all. This law is a pre-emptive strike on democratic rule, done in a democratic country, but not for democratic purposes. It's down to the people now, last stop. When everyone agrees we're in pre-revolution mode, it'll be too late. If the Libs/NDP can't strike Bill 309 down, then we'll know we're totally screwed.


ETA - Regarding watching Europe, does anyone think the Olympics is about Sport? I don't, but the majority still do (sigh), it's little more than opportunity to showcase the arsenal of draconian technology and of course stifling all dissent, justified by threat of 'terrism', compliance and advancing the cops is what it's about. It's lockdown London and oh let's not forget for end of May, Lockdown Chicago. Where even Putin said Nah, I'm not coming, you guys are interfering too much with the world.
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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #489 on: May 11, 2012, 10:38:18 PM »
Wow check out these comments from London West, the kid sent to me. Ha, don't imagine the Cons are too happy, since we all know the EU is going down the tubes.
http://s51holder.freepolls.com/cgi-bin/pollresults/001/comments.html


This is in reaction to a poll by a Con. The Poll asks: Do you think Canada should formalize a free trade deal with the European Union?
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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #490 on: May 11, 2012, 11:03:45 PM »
Oh shit Boom Boom I got kinda sidetracked there. You'll love the comments re: Fascism and Canada (U.S./UK included I might add) here:


http://northerninsights.blogspot.ca/2012/05/verbal-gymnastics-maybe-not.html
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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #491 on: May 11, 2012, 11:19:33 PM »
Okay - that article is dated 2003 although the URL (and comments) say 2012. It's a long article and the comments are longer, but I'll get through it tomorrow morning. Looks good, though.  8)

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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #492 on: May 12, 2012, 08:52:20 AM »
Olympics and World's Fairs are also, quite simply, utterly huge real-estate speculative operations. "Slum-clearance" (moving poor people farther away from their sources of income and/or social support), speculative building, highways and road building (and the occasional positive public transport initiative such as the métro here). Billions of $$$$€€€€££££ for the cronies!

Thanks to regina for her very detailed post. I don't think all authoritarian, and even dictatorial societies or regimes can be characterised as fascist - for one thing unfortunately the ruling class doesn't even have to smash a labour/left movement anywhere near as powerful as those in Italy, Germany or Spain in the 1920s - but later dictatorships and authoritarian regimes have certainly carefully studied fascism's methodology handbooks. I know Argentina copied a lot of Nazi and Fascist/Francoist vocabulary verbatim (a book on this: A Lexicon of Terror, by Marguerite Feitlowitz).

But whatever it is, it is very frightening indeed, and it is very hard to vote it out of power once it is in place.
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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #493 on: May 31, 2012, 10:41:04 AM »
Mulcair in Alberta where he is called by the ruling class 'simple-minded', while Alison Redford is at the Bilderberg Conference in Virginia, where she is lobbying for the tarsands ON THE PEOPLE'S DIME.


The big topic will no doubt be Greek exit from the EU - whether to weather it or to stop it from happening. If they decide to stop it, then we know the June election will be rigged. They could let Greece go, after all they need the money for Spain next, altho I always thought Spain was way too big to bail. There is a raging battle for control here and if I hear talk of forming a Federal Europe, then Greeks will turn in a big bad way. A federal Europe means one Central European Government who will dictate to all other members and local governments will have no power. They will become nothing more than administrators and whatever sovereignty Europeans think they have left will become non existent. In fact that is the way it now. And don't forget with the last bailout Greece was forced to buy weapons from Germany, lots and lots of military equipment.http://digitaljournal.com/article/318237 Didn't understand that at first, until I looked at a map. Turkey then Iran, last huge energy resource. Can u imagine if the Ruling Class got all of it? Russia/China military machine would come to a grinding halt. The truth is that nothing has gone back into people pockets or job creation or any other sensible thing that can begin to solve the problems. It has been swallowed up by banks and governments in the form of contracts and the rest was spent on interest.
So Eurogedden and of course we can't forget the next POTUS and VEEP, will also be on the agenda. Oh yeah of course let's not forget the internet, the repressed people's only way to organize. Before 2013 is over the internet will be nothing more than a corporate run commercial advertising platform and governmental propaganda machine.

But wow, finally, OCCUPY has focused with consensus on Bilderberg.
http://occupybilderberg.org/
It's at least something to let the vultures know they perhaps should put something else on the agenda.


There are many ustreams for occupy B, but most off-air right now, you can google them if interested. One is online now http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/22978866 and may find some ustreams @ https://www.facebook.com/OccupyBilderberg2012
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Re: The G20: global capitalism jumps the shark?
« Reply #494 on: June 03, 2012, 12:35:17 PM »
Jeez my EU suspicion is true.  :o  Spain is on board with it, France is not. Merkel will say the very 'survival' of the EU is dependent on it.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/03/us-eurozone-union-idUSBRE85207J20120603


Until states agree to these steps and the unprecedented loss of sovereignty they involve, the officials say Berlin will refuse to consider other initiatives like joint euro zone bonds or a "banking union" with cross-border deposit guarantees - steps Berlin says could only come in a second wave.[/size]The goal is for EU leaders to agree to develop a road map to "fiscal union" at a June 28-29 EU summit, where top European officials including European Council President Herman Van Rompuy will present a set of initial proposals.
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