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Proroguing democracy
« on: January 11, 2010, 11:15:36 PM »
Tom Flanagan on CBC Power Panel tonight :
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"The government's talking points don't have much credibility. Everybody knows that Parliament was prorogued in order to shut down the Afghan inquiry, and the trouble is that the government doesn't want to explain why that was necessary. I personally think that was a highly defensible action but instead of having an adult defence of it the government comes up with these childish talking points so then you try to backfill with other stuff that doesn't make much sense either so it's a self-created problem.
I hope no one thinks I'm a Harper stooge anymore."

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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2010, 12:04:07 AM »
oops
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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2010, 12:04:49 AM »
Everybody knows that Parliament was prorogued in order to shut down the Afghan inquiry,  Powerful statement from Flanagan.  And Layton says they won't be joining the Liberals in protest Obviously prepping for the election Harper wants so badly. I wonder what's really going on.
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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2010, 12:05:54 AM »
It is when we all play safe that we create a world of utmost insecurity. It is when we all play safe that fatality will lead us to our doom. It is in the "dark shade of courage" alone that the spell can be broken.
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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 12:10:54 AM »
Yeah I saw that A, I even sat forward cuz I couldn't believe that line. I wonder if any policy/poll/analytical wonks will breakdown the FB ages page and extrapolate something from it.
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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2010, 01:21:11 AM »
Harper interviewed on Business News Network today :
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BNN : Shouldn't Parliament have a role now in this fragile economic recovery? Is this the time to suspend Parliament? What about the optics of this decision because Canada is seen as a reliable stable financial haven right now? Even The Economist has taken issue with your suspending Parliament right now. Is there a risk to Canada's reputation because of this move?"

Harper : "No. There's zero risk ... [I missed a bit] ...The games begin when Parliament returns. The government can take time now to do the important work, to prepare the economic agenda ahead. That said, as soon as parliament comes back, we're in a minority parliament situation, the first thing that happens is a vote of confidence and there'll be votes of confidence and election speculation for every single week after that for the rest of the year. That's the kind of instability that I think markets are actually worried about but the government will be well-prepared.

Harper doing 'important work'; much easier w/o sillly 'games' of parliament.
Minority parliament bad for biz.
Thus begins the new narrative for a majority.

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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 05:22:16 AM »
"The games"???!!! Parliament is "the games"? Harper really has the Olympics on his mind, doesn't he?

Och, so much swearing to do, so little time. Flanagan is surprising, isn't he? What kind of game is he playing?

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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 09:13:36 AM »
Maybe Flanagan has found someone else to stooge for?
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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 12:10:09 PM »
Linda McQuaig summarizes the detainee issue and gets off some good shots:
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...Harper was starting to look like Richard Nixon refusing to hand over the Watergate tapes. (But perhaps that's an unfair comparison. After all, no one was tortured in the Watergate scandal...
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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 06:53:18 PM »
McQuaig is so cool, isn't she? I mean, there's a woman who could cut Conrad Black down to size and look good doing it, look even better when he made stupid sexist comments about her that really didn't work since she is so cool.  :mrgreen:

Maybe she could do Kenney next?

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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 08:15:05 PM »
Manitoba #Conservative MP Shelly Glover: Fresh off the turnip truck. http://bit.ly/8yurZL http://bit.ly/5M0GAL #cdnpoli #capp #afghanistan
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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 09:08:28 PM »
Shelly Glover: Either she really is an airhead, or that's an example of how hard Harper whips his caucus, so hard that they're willing to commit ritual suicide on national TV.

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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2010, 11:39:50 PM »
Frankly, she strikes me as a Sarah Palin clonedroid.
It is when we all play safe that we create a world of utmost insecurity. It is when we all play safe that fatality will lead us to our doom. It is in the "dark shade of courage" alone that the spell can be broken.
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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2010, 12:33:29 AM »
IIRC wasn't it a page or a young, teenaged Parliamentary assistant reportedly mentored by Glover who fell prey to Vic Toews' droit de cuissage?

Nope, sorry about that.  That was Joy Smith.

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Re: Proroguing democracy
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2010, 07:46:57 AM »
Very funny take on Glover from Dylan at Right of Centre Ice, the one drawback being that he doesn't even bother to mention Mulcair, and I take that to be partisan. He's a good little writer, though -- must watch his stuff more.

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