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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2011, 04:26:48 PM »
Oh yes, Vivian Krause is on twitter, and was interviewed by Ezra about US funding to Canadian environmental groups:
 
http://twitter.com/#!/FairQuestions
 
http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/2011/05/first-tv-interview-with-ezra-levant.html
 
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2011, 10:14:33 AM »
I guess these people have been bought off by the Americans too:
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A multi-billion-dollar pipeline project that would link the oilsands region to the coast of British Columbia offers new export capacity that the Canadian industry does not really need, senior bureaucrats have told the federal government.

That conclusion is among a series of revelations about federal activity in recent months surrounding an ongoing environmental evaluation of the $5.5-billion "Northern Gateway" project proposed by the Alberta-based energy company Enbridge, which has argued in favour of its strategic importance.
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"Even without Northern Gateway, Canada will have enough crude oil export capacity for some considerable time given the recent approvals of the Enbridge Clipper project, the TransCanada Keystone Project, and the TransCanada Keystone XL project, all of which will deliver crude oil to the U.S. Midwest and Gulf Coast market," wrote Akins.

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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2011, 10:20:28 AM »
Well, I wonder if they are pushing the Northern Gateway pipeline mostly as a way to pressure the Americans to approve Keystone XL.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2011, 04:39:50 PM »
Nikiforuk thinks the Keystone XL pipeline would raise gas prices in the US, and would not be able to replace Saudi Gas, so would end up exporting the oil to China anyway.
 
I'm not sure about this argument, but maybe.
 
http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2011/05/27/KeystonePipeline/
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2011, 12:05:00 AM »
Nikiforuk thinks the Keystone XL pipeline would raise gas prices in the US, and would not be able to replace Saudi Gas, so would end up exporting the oil to China anyway.
 
I'm not sure about this argument, but maybe.
 
http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2011/05/27/KeystonePipeline/

The same argument was made at the US House Energy and Commerce Committee recently. Roughly, why should we let Canadians pipeline their crude right across our country and raise oil prices in the Midwest just so they can sell it to China and India?
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2011, 06:47:49 PM »
TransCanada spins its spills:
 
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..."We’ve demonstrated we have built a very safe pipeline system because we haven’t had a leak on our pipeline," says Terry Cunha, a spokesperson for TransCanada. Apparently "oil releases" at pump stations mean the pipeline is safe...

 
http://www.desmogblog.com/transcanada-says-their-eleventh-leak-proves-keystone-safe
 
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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2011, 04:13:51 AM »
Northern Gateway Enbridge pipeline from Edmonton to Kitimat is just taking too darn long so Kinder Morgan has applied to dredge the Second Narrows in Vancouver Harbour so supertankers carrying four times the amount of oil spilled by the Exxon Valdez can have access. Metro Port Authority already onboard they say.
 
http://thetyee.ca/News/2011/06/02/KinderMorganGrandPlan/
 

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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2011, 07:12:57 PM »
Can we also post here about pipelines that already exist?

U.S. regulators order Keystone to stay shut
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U.S. regulators have barred TransCanada Corp. (TRP-T42.950.190.44%) from restarting its Keystone pipeline until the company can provide more proof that the system is safe, after several leaks in just a year of operation.

The order comes at a delicate time for TransCanada, which is just days away from the end of a public comment process on the U.S. review of a controversial expansion of the Keystone system. The company has argued that it builds safe, state-of-the-art pipes while critics argue the expansion endangers an important aquifer.

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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2011, 07:20:12 PM »
Speaking of opposition:
 
U.S. Orders Transcanada to Shut Pipeline
 
Thisis Keystone 1 pipeline - the decision on Keystone XL. ( :confused  WDF is XL - sounds like a Ford  :confused ) is due before the end of the year.
 
Good 'ol technologically advanced North America is beginning to sound like the aging USSR. When in the oil business I knew some people that worked in the Ukraine on some oil projects - they often commented that three major oil spills a month were the norm.
 
 
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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2011, 07:21:46 PM »
Oh you are quick, pogge ...q-u-i-c-k!  :applause
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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2011, 08:15:39 PM »
I don't think this story's going to help the cause either: Energy regulator defends withholding information about pipeline leaks
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OTTAWA — Canada's federal energy regulator is defending its decision to keep Canadians in the dark about safety concerns with two major oil and gas pipelines. The concerns prompted the regulator to order pressure reductions on both lines last October, which are still in effect today.

The National Energy Board intervened in the operations of the two pipelines, owned by Enbridge and Trans-Northern, that travel through Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Edmonton and other regions in Western Canada. This came after a major rupture in Michigan involving another pipeline owned by Enbridge, which resulted in more than three million litres of crude oil leaking into the state's Kalamazoo River.

The Trans-Northern pipeline, which mainly transports gasoline, also suffered a series of smaller leaks in Quebec and Ontario in 2010, and was urged to demonstrate better maintenance practices in order to be able to resume full operations.
What people will remember is "pipeline leaks" and "withholding information" -- so what else haven't they told us about?
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2011, 09:00:49 PM »
Yes, I guess this thread is the pipeline pipeline (ETA: though there is earlier pipeline stuff on the tar sands thread). I glanced through my mother's Calgary Herald and saw that Mike de Souza had two stories side by side; this is the other:
 
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Safety concerns about potential ruptures along two major oil and gas routes prompted federal regulators to order the operators to reduce pressure on the pipelines travelling underground through some of the largest cities in Western and Central Canada, Postmedia News has learned...

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Firms+told+reduce+pipeline+flow+prevent+spills+near+cities/4886234/story.html
 
 
 ETA: Desmogblog about the Keystone shut down:
 
http://www.desmogblog.com/breaking-transcanada-keystone-i-pipeline-shut-down-indefinitely-due-safety-concerns
 
and about the THIRD proposed pipeline route, through Vancouver, which Alison mentioned below:
 
http://www.desmogblog.com/tar-sands-industry-has-its-eyes-vancouver-asian-export-terminal
 
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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2011, 10:06:09 PM »
Mike De Souza has done other reporting lately:
 
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A controversial $13-billion pipeline project originating in Hardisty, Alta., will accelerate U.S. addiction to Canadian oil, says a newly-released report from Natural Resources Canada.
 
"The Keystone XL project is seen as both furthering U.S. dependence on oil, and enabling more oilsands crude to enter the U.S. market," said the document, released through access to information legislation...
http://ht.ly/59IT9
 
That's what we are - oil pushers. :annoyed
 
And when Spector pointed out some columnists who criticized his articles, De Souza replied:
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thx 4 the tip @nspector4, fascinating columns by Don Braid and @sunlorrie. I don't write opinion pieces. I report news #cdnpoli

http://twitter.com/#!/mikedesouza/status/75571544524464128
 
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2011, 01:13:17 PM »
Religious groups against Keystone XL:
 
http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/Environment/2011/06/06/religious-groups-alberta-oil/
 
BCL links to column by Dr. James Hansen about the pipeline:
 
http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2011/06/dr-james-hansen.html#links
 
 
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