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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #150 on: October 16, 2011, 01:20:57 PM »
  I went looking to see if Obama had anything to say about OWS, this is all I could find:
 
Obama: "Occupy Wall Street" reflects "broad-based frustration"


Obama said it was all immoral, but it was all legal. So he didn't really say anything. Have you heard this rant on msm? He basically says get the money out of politics, the congress is bought so no real legislation and Obama is too afraid to say the truth. It's intense.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCRnkamitVk&

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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #151 on: October 16, 2011, 06:33:36 PM »

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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #152 on: October 17, 2011, 12:12:13 AM »
A sign explains what OWS is about:
 
http://rustyidols.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupied-agenda.html
 
That Fox News article is good, isn't it? The writer, Sally Kohn, is apparently a progressive even though she talks on Fox News; also other news outlets.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Kohn
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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #153 on: October 17, 2011, 09:05:32 AM »
A caricature (from Tiananmen to Wall Street) by Garnotte in Le Devoir:

http://www.ledevoir.com/images_galerie/1_82858/1989-place-tiananmen-et-2011-occupy-wall-street.jpg

And where should we be putting a thread about the INTERNATIONAL scope of the Indignés/Indignados/Outraged/Occupy movement? I'm sure as hell not putting info on Montréal, Madrid or Manilla in "USA".
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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #154 on: October 17, 2011, 11:30:47 AM »
Hedges


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Liberals lack the vision and fortitude to challenge dominant free market ideologies. They have no ideological alternatives even as the Democratic Party openly betrays every principle the liberal class claims to espouse, from universal health care to an end to our permanent war economy to a demand for quality and affordable public education to a return of civil liberties to a demand for jobs and welfare of the working class. The corporate state forced the liberal class to join in the nation’s death march that began with the presidency of Ronald Reagan. Liberals such as Bill Clinton, for corporate money, accelerated the dismantling of our manufacturing base, the gutting of our regulatory agencies, the destruction of our social service programs and the empowerment of speculators who have trashed our economy. The liberal class, stripped of power, could only retreat into its atrophied institutions, where it busied itself with the boutique activism of political correctness and embraced positions it had previously condemned.
Russell Jacoby writes: “The left once dismissed the market as exploitative; it now honors the market as rational and humane. The left once disdained mass culture as exploitative; now it celebrates it as rebellious. The left once honored independent intellectuals as courageous; now it sneers at them as elitist. The left once rejected pluralism as superficial; now it worships it as profound. We are witnessing not simply a defeat of the left, but its conversion and perhaps inversion.”
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/17


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Anyone who expressed difficulty seeing or understanding what motivates these protests revealed many things about themselves. None is flattering. The only thing that’s surprising is that these protests didn’t happen sooner and that they’re not more widespread and intense. I think it’s become increasingly clear that that is likely to change, and soon. Like the Arab Spring, the rapid growth of these protests should be a permanent antidote against defeatism. It’s unclear what these protests will accomplish — that still depends on how many people join them and what they cause it to be — but, already, they prove that the possibility always exists for subverting even the most seemingly invulnerable power factions. That hasn’t happened yet, but the possibility that these protests are only in their incipient stages is one of the more exciting and positive political developments in some time. It’s been clear for quite awhile that unrest and disruptions — and the fear which they alone can put in the hearts and minds of those responsible for widespread ills — are absolute prerequisites for meaningful reform (our fundamentally corrupted electoral process certainly can’t and won’t accomplish that). These protests at least reflect the possibility, the template, for that to happen. And anyone expressing confusion about why these protests are erupting is almost certainly someone invested in keeping things exactly the way they are.
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/17/what_are_those_ows_people_so_angry_about/



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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #155 on: October 17, 2011, 11:40:16 AM »
  A rabble.ca article:  #OccupyCanada -- Calgary
 
including this tidbit:
 
Former Clinton labour secretary and economist Robert Reich:
 
"Barack Obama is many things but he is as far from left-wing populism as any Democratic president in modern history.

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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #156 on: October 17, 2011, 11:56:44 AM »
A caricature (from Tiananmen to Wall Street) by Garnotte in Le Devoir:

http://www.ledevoir.com/images_galerie/1_82858/1989-place-tiananmen-et-2011-occupy-wall-street.jpg

And where should we be putting a thread about the INTERNATIONAL scope of the Indignés/Indignados/Outraged/Occupy movement? I'm sure as hell not putting info on Montréal, Madrid or Manilla in "USA".

How about here:

http://breadnroses.ca/community/index.php/topic,7461.msg204068.html#msg204068


Good cartoon. Pogge and Dr. Dawg should send it to Dan Gardner and make his head explode as he yells "False equivalence!"
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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #157 on: October 17, 2011, 12:02:32 PM »

 Former Clinton labour secretary and economist Robert Reich:
 
"Barack Obama is many things but he is as far from left-wing populism as any Democratic president in modern history.


And to carry on with that theme - Look, a crazy anti-capitalist anarchist carrying a bizarre sign incompatible with the basic tenents of liberals:
http://www.newdeal20.org/2011/10/14/who-are-the-1-and-what-do-they-do-for-a-living-61759/

Best sign I've seen so far that includes ev OWS is about.

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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #158 on: October 17, 2011, 04:25:01 PM »
Ivan Marovic, a leader of CANVAS (Centre for Applied Non Violent Action and Strategies) recently addressed the Occupy Wall Street protest movement in New York City. Listen carefully to his speech. (Bear in mind that his organization CANVAS is supported by NED (National Endowment for Democracy)).

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27053

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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #160 on: October 19, 2011, 07:42:14 PM »
Before Adbusters made the call out for Sept. 17th, there was a long road before it.


http://ampedstatus.org/a-report-from-the-frontlines-the-long-road-to-occupywallstreet-and-the-origins-of-the-99-movement/

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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #161 on: October 20, 2011, 02:12:23 PM »
Meet the snitch for the FBI/NYPD since Sept. 18th and to Breitbart as well.
http://gawker.com/5850054/meet-the-guy-who-snitched-on-occupy-wall-street-to-the-fbi-and-nypd


which I found @ Reddit, where OWS is considering two statements on socializing the losses of BofA and the Fed http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/lhcvo/ows_and_99_please_pay_attention_to_this_and_stop/  As I said somewhere else, they're doing it again.

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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #162 on: October 26, 2011, 01:08:55 PM »
Out of control Oakland, California. Looks like war scenes. Mayor taking heat.


http://blog.sfgate.com/abraham/2011/10/26/occupy-oakland-mayor-jean-quan-in-big-trouble-after-riot/


The video in link shows the Marine rubber bullet in face, can't talk, protesters screaming MEDIC MEDIC, another vid shows an unconscious woman laying on street and while protesters come to her aid, cops lob another flash bang grenade right beside her and protesters must flee.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/26/police-repeatedly-clash-with-occupy-oakland-in-night-of-terror/


Cops deny using flash bang grenades. Evidence everywhere. The whole world is watching with it at the Guardian. I don't know if OWS can continue to stay peaceful, when the cops surprise in riot gear ready for a street fight. This could be going south unless perhaps they do a General Strike in Oakland as payback or something.

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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #163 on: October 26, 2011, 02:25:06 PM »
The young marine has a Skull Fracture!!! :mad2


1.30pm: Scott Olsen, the protester shown with head injuries, apparently after being hit in the head by a police projectile, has a skull fracture and is in a "serious, but stable condition", according to a fellow protester with him in hospital.
Adele Carpenter, who has known Olsen since July, said she was told by a doctor at Highland hospital, in Oakland, that Olsen "has a skull fracture".
Carpenter arrived at Highland hospital in Oakland at 11pm last night, and has been allowed to visit Olsen – a former US marine, who did two tours of Iraq – this morning, she said.
"I'm just absolutely devastated that someone who did two tours of Iraq and came home safely is now lying in a US hospital because of the domestic police force," Carpenter said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/oct/26/occupy-oakland-protests-live#block-9
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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
« Reply #164 on: October 26, 2011, 02:30:28 PM »
Starhawk's blogpost about it.

What dirty fuckers they are!  The cops I mean.

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Re: Will USians Occupy Wall Street?
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