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« on: August 19, 2006, 02:13:24 PM »
Ok so talked with support and was told that for the kind of traffic we have I need this plan and it is 600 dollars a year.

http://www.netfirms.com/enterprise/index.html

So more experienced tech people what say you is it worth it?

DO you have any other suggestions?

BTW it is cheap for managed hosting but we would need to get serious about selling ad space or doing something to raise money as it amounts to 239 every 4 months.

On the upside there would be no more database errors and constant up time.

buy lotto tickets.  :?
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2006, 02:28:50 PM »
What's your bandwidth usage currently?

I'm familiar with GoDaddy because that's where Flu Wiki's servers are. For us$14.99/month paying monthly, you can get 200GB of disk space and 2,000 GB of transfer per month.

For that matter, you can get a Virtual Dedicated Server at GoDaddy for us$39.95/month.

I haven't shopped lately but past experience suggests that if you want to go Canadian you'll pay more.

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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2006, 02:35:02 PM »
the bandwidth graph makes no sense to me
Total Bandwidth for Week:  1 601.94 MB
Average Per Day: 1 601.94 MB

how can it be teh same for the week and per day? anyway at the last server we averaged 25 GB a month and it was rising
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2006, 02:45:22 PM »
Was it me or was the whole site kerflooey there? :(

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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2006, 02:47:49 PM »
there as in for the last two hours or there as in the last host? yes it was
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2006, 02:56:47 PM »
For the sake of argument, ignore the weekly figure and look at the daily one. That's roughly one and a half gigs a day or 45 gigs a month.

I have a 7.00/month shared hosting package at GoDaddy that I set up to test some platforms where I have three different message board platforms (including this one) and four different wiki platforms running. That package gives me 100 GB of disk space and 1,000 GB of transfer a month. It hasn't been tested under load because I haven't advertised the place -- there are only half a dozen people who know the domain exists -- but on paper it has more than enough power to run what you're doing here. And I had no problems at all getting phpBB to run. It took me less than an hour to install it and less than half an hour to install a custom skin I found just for experimental purposes.

I'm tempted to say that I think Netfirms is full of crap. I'll be interested to hear what our other resident webmasters think.

(Aside: I did have trouble with a couple of platforms because the installation required administrative rights to the database. With a lot of shared hosting packages, the host limits those rights. But phpBB installed just fine. If you want complete control, you need to look at a Virtual Dedicated Server or a full-blown Dedicated Server. Flu Wiki actually involves two of the latter at the moment - long story. To make that practical you might have to find somebody else with hosting needs and see if you can pool resources.)

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2006, 03:41:17 PM »
Quote from: Debra
Ok so talked with support and was told that for the kind of traffic we have I need this plan and it is 600 dollars a year.



That would work out to ca 6 dollars a year per member. Surely we could all afford that.

Worth considering?

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2006, 03:45:49 PM »
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That would work out to ca 6 dollars a year per member. Surely we could all afford that.

Worth considering?


Not necessarily. Some of the errors I'm seeing suggest that this hosting company may not know what they're doing.

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2006, 04:18:41 PM »
Is there any possibility that my posting photos on the other thread made everything go down? I'll delete all of them if such is the case. :(

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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2006, 05:56:07 PM »
I'm searching out at new host. Steve told me the one enmasse is on,
but while they are good,  they are in the states and they are techie
oriented, too techie for me.

I have feelers out at host that might be ok. I sent them specific
questions and the site url.

When I spoke with the tech guy here today he was very laizze faire
(spelling all wrong) buy up he says 600 hundred bucks for what might
not be better service says I, shrug says he move up and we guarentee
no errors, so it almost feels like they don't give a shit and are
trying to shake me down.

But it pisses me off that we lose the money we paid. So if I have to
move cause you can't provide the service do I get my money back? no
says he? shrug again. (^)*^)*^)&)!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2006, 12:56:59 PM »
How important is it that we stay Canadian? on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being very important.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2006, 01:06:21 PM »
I can't remember what the issues were with Merkin hosting. Privacy? We'd be under the Patriot Act? If there's no exposure to anything narsty, I don't care one way or t'other.

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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2006, 01:36:43 PM »
ok nevermind. american hosts are subject to the patriot act, the fbi, grand jury and all american laws.

which narrows my search considerably. sigh.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2006, 10:14:21 AM »
After contacting a few hosts and being very specific about our needs, I am repeatedly told we need managed hosting because of the high level of traffic.

So far amounts have ranged between 1000 and 3000 dollars a year.  :shock:

So the six hundred for here is looking better. Now they would put about 200 dollars towards that leaving us 400 hundred, if we have 100 contributing members that would be 4 dollars each.

Can we do that? should we? thoughts?  suggestions?
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2006, 10:16:56 AM »
That sounds doable Debra and congrats. But are there 100 contributing members, what do the stats say? I never read them so dunno.
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