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Morning Glory

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Sometimes I'm afraid to post feminist "stuff".
« on: June 20, 2006, 09:01:07 AM »
I don't know if that's the best thread title.

I have been very reluctant to post my feminist views or, more specifically, my views on some feminist topics.  I think I am suffering from some sort of post traumatic thread disorder.  I never posted during the flame wars on other boards but am feeling the affects.

I view myself as a feminist and think, "how could I not be one?"  However, sometimes I think I do have non-feminist views on certain topics, though I am always willing to have my views challenged and will often change my mind.

I am lacking in scholarly knowledge of feminist theory and remember a post on this board?/another board? in the FF wherein someone stated that it was not a place for posters to ask questions about feminist theory/views and posters should educate themselves elsewhere.  Does this apply to this board?

For the moment, I can think of no actual examples that would highlight my naivete (I can't spell that word - can we have a spelling forum?).

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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2006, 09:23:38 AM »
I haven't taken women's studies most of my feminism comes from experience.

We aren't the borg so of course even as feminists we will have differences of opinion and ways of approaching things and we will disagree. That's just life really.

I'm all for education, got questions ask. I think the comments you are referring to most often were made to trolling questions.

For spelling you could start a thread in the writing forum and I'll be write...uh right there with you.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2006, 09:59:39 AM »
I'm in the same boat as you MG. Although I did take some Women Studies at UVic in the early 70's, no credits then. I was ostracized by the other women because I put my hand up as a marginalized group. I was only one of two white women in the class. But I braved it out. Didn't get to finish U, family crisis to attend to.

Read books, took stands, got slapped down, got up again. Took workshops, volunteered at crisis clinics. Found comfort in all women's groups, whatever the cause. Lots of disagreements, always labelled as not militant enuf. But I am very comfortable with way of doing my bit. And that should be enuf. But it never is of course.

So glad you started this thread.  :wink:
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2006, 10:10:33 AM »
At some point (when? late 80s? early 90s?) some stereotype of what a "feminist" is got loose in this culture, and that in itself defeats me.

I'm not exactly sure how it goes; I just know that it is baaaaaad, negative, and nothing I can say is ever gonna convince a lot of people, especially younger men, that it is not the truth.

Given the life I've lived, that is a sometimes depressing thought.

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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2006, 10:14:55 AM »
I'm not militant either.  About anything.  At least I don't volcalize any militancy.  I don't know the lingo.  However, I do go about doing, I just don't talk about it.  I've never been comfortable being an "....ist".  I don't mean to say that I don't want to be labelled a feminist.  It's just that I don't think I'm vocal/militant enough to be part of a movement.  I'm not afraid of being a feminist, though, I just don't think I deserve using the title when compared to some of the women who have earned the title through their struggles.  And I am not a leader.  I'm a follower (mostly of Skdadl  :wink: .)

I think I do things in small ways.  I will speak up amongst friends when they utter thoughts/words that are anti-this or that.

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2006, 10:19:37 AM »
MG's post reminded me of something I wanted to ask;

WTF is a militant feminist as opposed to ??? an apathetic femininist????

This is in no way directed at you MG I'm thinking more in terms of it seems those who have 'difficulty' with feminism seem to be the ones defining it.
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2006, 02:24:26 PM »
I don't feel I'm qualified to answer BUT those terms seem media made and media driven. Yet at the same time I remember in the late 70's there was a study done (U.S. anonymous study) about women assaults on their male partners/husbands and it turned out to be on par with the reversal. Forget who was that did it. Other women's groups were furious with the study results and actively campaigned against her (I'll have to look it up later).

To me militant would be actively attacking other women's groups, spreading misinformation, in order to get the limited funding dollars. I'm not sure that is still true, but it was once.

Also there are equity fem's and socialist fem's; which to me speaks to the necessity of having specialized fems these days. The world has gotten so much more de-sensitized since 9/11, I feel kind of comforted knowing so many women from so many generations are all out there together. It's a necessity, it really is. Sometimes just fighting for a common cause takes all one's energy, so perhaps the older fems history does not get passed down.

Before Cindy Sheehan's son was killed in Iraq, I wonder what her causes were about, does anybody know? Does she consider herself a feminist? Or  an anti-war activist? Or both? I should do some looking.

Hopefully others will speak to this.

ETA: I found something where Susan Steinmetz is mentioned.

Yeah I know, a mensa meeting.

http://www.fathersforlife.org/fv/Dan_Lynch_on_EP.htm
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