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Stealing Waters
« on: June 23, 2006, 08:37:30 AM »
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We understand that, since the time of the Magna Carta, a clear set of public trust principles and standards have been developed:  Water is a commons which cannot be owned, diverted, nor sold for profit.

Yet, a private company, Nestlé Waters, seeks to divert 400 US Gallons per minute, from Sanctuary Springs in Michigan for bottled water sales and its own private profits.

Nestlé Waters, in 2003, led the American bottled water market with a one-third share of total sales or almost $2.7 billion (US).  All profits are directed to shareholders of Swiss parent Nestlé SA who cumulatively enjoyed profits in 2005 of $10.26 billion (US).
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2006, 10:20:25 AM »
Control of water is going to be a big issue over the next few years.  Big business is counting on the fact that most people take it for granted - it falls out of the sky, it gets flushed down the toilet, there's tons of it in the oceans - what's the big deal, right?  

The Council of Canadians has been monitoring the situation closely, as you can see when you check out this  page.

As well, here you will discover more about Canada's position on water, on the international scene.
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Canada should be open to water sharing not water selling.

Canada should oppose the privatization of water as it allows for some of the worst human rights violations. Recognizing the right to water would allow international law to address issues of unequal distribution and access to safe water for drinking and sanitation in other countries.

Endorsing the right to water does not affect Canada’s control over its water resources. Canada should be willing to consider sharing its water and expertise with countries that are truly in need. But there is a difference between water sharing and water selling. Selling water to the U.S.– or any other country – sets a dangerous social, economic and environmental precedent that could not be easily reversed.

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2006, 10:30:14 AM »
Thread drift - sorry - but I've lived beside the Gulf of St. Lawrence for the past eleven years, and in some places shoreline erosion likely will become a concern if indeed ocean levels around the world do increase as has been predicted by scientists here and there. I'd love to see large scale land reclamation and ocean waters filtered into fresh water and the salt, silt, and sand recovered used in some way - perhaps as a component of a more natural (as compared to toxic) concrete or paving asphalt in place of land based sand, and used to place barriers against the more evident examples of shoreline erosion (there's a few places from Sept-Iles to Blanc Sablon that could use shoreline barriers, for example). I'd like to see investment into protecting the country's shorelines - at least as much as put into the military.

I apologise for the flagrant thread drift, but posts about water always get me started on protecting shorelines.  :oops:

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2007, 12:18:42 PM »
Do we have another thread about water, as in drinking water?  I'm reviving this thread for the purpose.  Column about water shortages coming.

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The only thing more depressing than lunch with Michael Byers is lunch with Michael Byers and James Byrne...

..."There is a big social and political debate coming about what we do with our remaining water resources," says Prof. Byers. "There are going to be some big fights about who gets access to what. We are already facing scarcity in parts of Saskatchewan and Alberta. This crisis is upon us now. We can't leave it for another 10 or 15 years after it goes beyond critical before we do something about it."...
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2007, 02:27:04 PM »
It's happening to the Great Lakes and the St-Lawrence seaway, too.  Water levels are at all-time lows.  People should look to what happened to the Black and Caspian Seas as cautionary examples of what could develop here.

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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2007, 04:14:32 PM »
Mild weather is affecting the Lake Superior watershed. Water levels are at an all time low:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00330.html

Earlier in the week, The Current had an interview that was really eye-opening:

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Robert Sandford Feature

The rivers run through it, the Bow, the Athabasca, the North and South Saskatchewan. Alberta is rich with the glacier-clad mountains that feed those waterways. So for the time being, the Province's taps are flowing.

But Alberta is booming and as a result significant changes are occurring to the province's hydrology, the natural water systems that make irrigation, municipal water supplies, oil sands extraction and healthy eco-systems possible.

Compounded by climate change and threatened - some say - by political negotiations to secure a water supply for the continent. Our next guest fears the Province and the country could be left high and dry… if nothing is done to turn the tide.

Robert Sandford is the Chair of the United Nations Water For Life Initiative in Canada. He's a natural historian and has written or edited 20 books on the Canadian West, including his new book, Water, Weather and the Mountain West. Robert Sandford joined us from Calgary.


http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2007/200710/20071009.html
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2007, 02:23:44 PM »
Drought in the US southeast is causing tensions between states (Georgia being drained to service Florida & Alabama) and between Georgia and the feds:

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ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- The Army Corps of Engineers sidestepped the governor's demand to stop draining reservoirs Wednesday, setting up a legal showdown between the federal government and state officials who blame the policy for intensifying a record drought.

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But environmentalists contend the state should have been better prepared for a water shortage, which they say is an inevitable result of decades of pro-growth policy that led to metro Atlanta's sprawl.


Also heard recently that Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, North Carolina, despite strict conservation measures, will be depleted by year's end in the absence of significant precipitation.

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Re: Stealing Waters
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 10:40:03 AM »
I had another coffee after my first post. (Coffee RP, have some) And I hope this is the right thread. But Lookey Here. Maude Barlow, has been appointed senior water advisor to the president of the United Nations.  :applause:
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Re: Stealing Waters
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2008, 10:41:07 AM »
Wonderful news!   :applause:

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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2008, 02:22:52 PM »
Yes it's fabulous. I just hope it doesn't dilute (argh) the effort to safeguard Canada's water.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2009, 02:26:25 PM »
By way of Dawg's Blawg blogpost about a town in Chile deprived of its water, one of the commenters provided a link to Faux News report about Maude Barlow's ongoing battle against the privatization of water.
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"While the World Water Forum has long touted the privatization of municipal water systems as a means of improving the welfare of communities in need, the reality is that water is being used to generate profit rather than to slake the world's growing thirst," Barlow and other activists said in a release issued this week.

But sources in the water industry say Barlow is dead wrong. Without private companies working to procure and purify water, they say, developing nations wouldn't have the know-how or infrastructure to get clean water for themselves.
Which is a (self-interested) denial, invalidation and prevarication about the work that international organizations like EauVive/WaterCan is successfully accomplishing with communities.

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Re: Stealing Waters
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2010, 12:09:59 AM »
UN declares access to clean water a human right  :applause

Who voted no? -  the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia and 37 other nations abstained.

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Of her country's abstention, she said: "We are terribly disappointed."She said Canada's conservative government wants the right to sell water.
"They know that if they say it is a human right it will be a contradiction to want to turn it into a commodity," she added
I know it's non-binding, but it's a start and BOO to Canada/America/Britian/Australia!
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Re: Stealing Waters
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2011, 11:36:30 PM »
Here is a map showing permiability, which will help scientists to figure out what water resources are available.
 
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2011/02/new-map-shows-the-leaks-in-our.html#more
 
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2011/2010GL045565.shtml
 
And a discussion of water, food prices, riots etc. with some good links:
 
http://rabett.blogspot.com/2011/02/geography-is-destiny.html
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Re: Stealing Waters
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2011, 05:42:08 PM »
Shit  :mad2 :
 
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Water research in Alberta was dealt a blow this week when an important institute received news its work will now be directed by a board with energy industry priorities, water experts say...

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Experts+warn+Alberta+water+research+could+hindered/4652989/story.html
 
ETA: got that from the Ernst lawsuit website:
 
http://www.ernstversusencana.ca/links-resources
 
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2011, 07:56:02 PM »
Double  :mad2
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