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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2007, 05:51:25 PM »
Poor wee thing ... popped out before being fully gestated.  Was it a first pregnancy?

Medical science can try to replicate conditions that the uterus can provide for fetal development, but there is a reason why the process of pregnancy is called "giving life".  Which of course, implies that a pregnancy that is not evolving normally, or with a non-viable fetus, will often shut down on its own.

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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2007, 05:59:27 PM »
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'Advances' in medicine enabling more of this sort of thing fuels debates around viability. How do we deal with it?


Show them the bill.

I think the "miracle baby" is great, I am all for any medical practices that can push viability back even earlier, the more infants that can be helped the better, blah blah blah. But it costs a hell of a lot.

Being a nice little socialist, I say to hell with the cost, the best medicine should be available to all -- even to premature babies without a hope in the world for survival. But it's amazing how quickly many conservatives shrivel up when they realize how much it costs, over a lifetime, to care for medically fragile infants. They're quick to sentimentalize these babies, but when it comes time to pay the bill for caring for them, they are nowhere to be found.

So that's how I've dealt with it. I share my genuine enthusiasm for advances in medicine that push back viability, and my sincere hope that they will join me in agitating for higher taxes to provide this quality care to all babies. All Babies, as in not just those born to nice suburban families.

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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2007, 06:12:01 PM »
I'm a nice little socialist (actually not so nice) but I don't believe in medical heroics that only produce non-viable or very severely damaged babies.

And that is not just a question of money. Of course I think the poor and working class should have the same access to care as the affluent.

Those little glimmers of life that fade, though, always sad, whether human, feline or something else. I get sentimental about shoots of houseplants.
" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2007, 06:34:06 PM »
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... I get sentimental about shoots of houseplants.
Who's shooting houseplants?  :?

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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2007, 06:50:26 PM »
Second, and she was 30minutes away from being dead herself when she took herself to the hospital and he was born, 1lb 10oz.

I dont think she will be able to have another. her blood pressure shot way up and it almost killed her
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There's too many signs and arrows
You haven't laughed in a while
When you can't even fake a smile
When you feel ashamed...
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2007, 06:56:57 PM »
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Second, and she was 30minutes away from being dead herself when she took herself to the hospital and he was born, 1lb 10oz.
Sometimes the physiological ressources required to support a pregnancy are not available.  As well, if a woman has an undetected health condition, the pregnancy may precipitate a medical crisis that can be life-threatening.

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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2007, 05:24:35 PM »
Holy mackerel. A new tactic. Now they want to restrict abortion to protect girls from abuse. :roll:


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Legislators want pregnant girls reported


They say it's to counter abuse, but others fear it would scare teens away from getting help.

By JENNIFER LIBERTO and REBECCA CATALANELLO
Published March 7, 2007
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TALLAHASSEE - Health care professionals would be required to call police if they know or suspect a patient 15 or younger is pregnant, under a bill filed recently in the House and Senate.

In addition, doctors who perform abortions on such girls would be required to collect a DNA sample from the fetus and send it to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

State Sen. Ronda Storms, a Brandon Republican, has joined forces with a top House Republican, Rep. Dennis Baxley of Ocala, on the bill, which aims to crack down on underage sexual abuse by having health care professionals assume pregnant teens are crime victims.

Doctors and nurses at abortion clinics, hospitals or even counseling agencies would have to report underage pregnancies within 24 hours of knowing about such a pregnancy or risk losing their state license.

The report would trigger a criminal investigation examining whether the girl was a victim of a crime, such as statutory rape, which can include sex between two minors who are under 16.


St Petersburg Times

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2007, 06:02:04 PM »
Florida, too? I posted something about that happening in Texas (somewhere.... it should be here.... I'll have to look later) but it looks like it's spreading.

ETA: Oh, yes, it was in Abortion Watch.

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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2007, 06:14:39 PM »
kuri, I was being optimistic putting it here in the loonier thread.

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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2007, 06:21:48 PM »
Hooray!  Paul Steckle has announced that he will not seek re-election in Huron-Bruce.  

Link is time sensitive-weekly paper.

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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2007, 06:30:08 PM »
k'in: remind me? All I see there is that he was a champion of Stephen Truscott's, which is of course a good thing. But I'm sure I'm forgetting something (I always am).

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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2007, 06:56:57 PM »
I know we have a thread (or several) on him.  I tried searching and can't come up anything. He is the Liberal MP that brought forth the anti-abortion private members bill a while back.   Anti-woman, anti-choice. Also known as the MP that sent out Xmas cards of himself dressed in camouflage pointing a gun toward the recipient.  The Truscott position is admirable, but in all honesty I can't remember ever meeting anyone growing up there that at the very least didn't figure Truscott was entitled to a review/new trial.  I suspect Steckle plays the anti-choice role for a bigger constituency because it isn't an issue that came up at the debates.  The Christian Heritage Party does exist in Huron-Bruce, sadly.  They pulled approximately 1000 votes which is enough to be a factor.  I'm not willing to give Steckle a pass due to political expediency though.  He did bring forward a private members bill to limit abortion which has to reflect
something about his beliefs.

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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2007, 07:00:08 PM »
Well, and having himself photographed that way. Pointing the gun. In cami.   :shock:

Right. I've got him located in my mind now. Thanks, k'in.

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« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2007, 07:18:01 PM »
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Hooray!  Paul Steckle has announced that he will not seek re-election in Huron-Bruce.  

Just a (perhaps snide) observation:
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“In that time, I have been able to effect many changes that I am proud of. I have worked diligently to represent my constituents and to better my community.”
Steckle described himself as a person who was never fearful of speaking out on the issues of the day.

If a politican has to point that out, the opposite jumps into my mind. .
"It is also a good rule not to put overmuch confidence in the observational results that are put forward until they are confirmed by theory." -- Arthur Stanley Eddington

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« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2007, 07:37:28 PM »
Actually it was the *whole* family, decked out:



Mailed out on December 6th apparently.

For Xmas 2006, he apparently went with something more demure::

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Steckle describes himself as a "born-again Christian," so he wishes his 4,000 card recipients a Merry Christmas and includes a biblical passage from Matthew about the birth of Jesus.


Scary thing...when I was googling trying to find the card many links to BBW SHE OF ALL CAPS came up.
Coincidence?

 

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