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Mexico: Election Too Close to Call
« on: July 03, 2006, 07:21:21 AM »
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Mexico\'s presidential elections too close to call
By DPA
Jul 3, 2006, 19:00 GMT

Mexico City - There is no clear winner in the Mexican presidential elections overnight to Monday after the closure of polling stations and the National Electoral Commission (IFE) announced it will take days to release the official results, local media reported.

   IFE head Luis Carlos Ugalde said the results between the top two candidates were too close to declare a winner Sunday. Ugalde said in a national televised address that all ballots from the 300 electoral districts would be counted before the winner is announced, a procedure that would take up to two days, and there would be no result until at least Wednesday.

   President Vicente Fox appealed for calm, for the democratic rules to be followed and for Mexicans to wait for the official results from the IFE.

   Supporters of both candidates, leftist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador and conservative Felipe Calderon, were declaring victory.



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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2006, 07:37:34 AM »
Someone mentioned over at babble that the official results will be released on Wednesday.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2006, 08:32:45 AM »
Best leftwing Mexican daily: http://www.jornada.unam.mx

Lev, you aren't fooling us with that pic of yourself as a dashing young lad... we know your hair had turned grey by the time you got to Mexico...

(Though actually we remember you were only 60 when you got the icepick)...
" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2006, 08:36:59 AM »
The link isn't working for me, I'll try later when I get home.

Lord, but this is nail biting time, imagine the first 3 way race in forever for the people. Rigged elections up until now, what must it be like? I can't imagine.
But the longer the wait, the more fraud is going to be called and who can blame.

If it's that close tho, one or the other will have a minority gov't, which means close tabs on them.

I want to know how Obrador managed to get the permanently desperately poor out to vote. Lessons to be learned there for sure.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2006, 08:40:12 AM »
How do you say "No Diebold" in Spanish?   :annoyed

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2006, 08:40:26 AM »
I've corrected the link - I mistakenly wrote mex, and of course it is mx...

I should stop trying to post as I repack and check over again. Sorry.
" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2006, 08:46:21 AM »
Tee hee. Watch lagatta try to wean herself from computer dependency as flight time draws nearer ...   :wink:

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2006, 08:47:48 AM »
I have a layover in Tranna of all places - but alas I think the computer terminals here only take credit cards. In Europe, they also take Euro coins.
" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2006, 09:17:51 AM »
Further update.

Is any election run properly anymore? Were they ever?

And is it just me that sees a point of interest here?

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IFE is run by Luis Carlos Ugalde, a U.S.-trained political scientist with a doctorate from Columbia University.


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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2006, 09:03:42 AM »
How Should Left Respond to Stolen Mexico Election?

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If America cared about democracy, our political leaders would be demanding that Mexican Presidential candidate Lopez Obrador either be declared the winner of the July 2 election or that a full precinct-by-precinct internationally-supervised recount immediately commence. Yet a nation that has spent $300 billion and ended hundreds of thousands of lives to allegedly bring democracy to Iraq is silent---and perhaps complicit--- as democracy is subverted in adjacent Mexico. Mexico’s progressive forces have already had the 1988 presidential election stolen from them, and walked away without a fight. The Mexican left cannot allow another hijacking of democracy without permanently disillusioning its base, and progressives across the world must get their national, state and local governments to support this cause.
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Mexicans travel to poll protest
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2006, 08:11:48 AM »
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Supporters of the left-wing candidate in Mexico's general election, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, have begun converging on the capital, Mexico City.

Rallies are expected to begin in the city's vast main square, the Zocalo, leading up to a huge march on Sunday.

Mr Lopez Obrador is demanding a manual recount of votes cast in the presidential election.

Results show his conservative opponent Felipe Calderon won by a margin of only 0.57 of a percentage point.

Carrying banners and wearing the yellow colours of Mexico's left-wing Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD), supporters of Mr Lopez Obrador are making the long journey to the Zocalo.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5174796.stm
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2006, 08:15:32 AM »
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Evidence of Election Fraud Grows in México

A month after more than 41 million Mexicans went to the polls to elect their next president, the country is still awaiting a result. A preliminary count of polling station tally sheets put conservative Felipe Calderón of the National Action Party (PAN) ahead with a slight lead over left-populist Andres Manuel López Obrador of the Democratic Revolution Party (PRD). Both candidates have claimed victory, with López Obrador and his supporters holding vigils and protests across the country and calling for a vote-by-vote recount.

That hasn't kept a consensus from emerging in the commercial media that Calderón won by a small margin in a squeaky-clean election. In a hyperbolic editorial on July 30 -- one that bordered on the ridiculous -- the Washington Post accused López Obrador, known as AMLO to his supporters, of taking "a lesson from Joseph Stalin" and launching an "anti-democracy campaign" by demanding a manual recount and urging his supporters to take to the streets in peaceful protests. Calling the vote "a success story and a model for other nations," the editors concluded that it's "difficult to overstate the irresponsibility of Mr. López Obrador's actions."

Days after the election, the New York Times irresponsibly declared candidate Calderón the winner, even though no victor had been declared under Mexican law, and just this week, in an article about López Obrador's protests, the Times reported that López Obrador had "escalated his campaign to undo official results."

But there are no "official" results and probably won't be until after Sept. 1. Under Mexican law, the Federal Electoral Institute (IFE) is charged with running the elections and counting the vote. But only the country's Election Tribunal, known by its Mexican nickname as the "TRIFE," has the power to declare a victor (See here for background on the TRIFE). They have until Sept. 6 to rule on the election.

http://www.alternet.org/story/39763/
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2006, 10:41:34 AM »
Recount Confirms Massive and Systematic Election Fraud

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The partial recount has also revealed more evidence of a pattern of malice on the part of IFE officials. The existence of more ballots than there are voters in PAN stronghold precincts indicates that either the IFE illegally sent more ballots than allowed to those precincts, or somehow the party in power obtained them by other illegal means. The recount has also revealed a massive number of precincts where the seals on the ballot boxes had been broken since Election Day, opening the possibility that ballots were inserted or removed after July 2nd.

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Mexico’s television duopoly – Televisa and TV Azteca – have declined to report the irregularities that have surfaced as a result of the partial recount. The same goes for much – but not all – of the corporate media. The facts have instead broken the media blockade via Internet and organization, as well as the detailed reporting of the daily La Jornada in Mexico City, the daily Por Esto! in Yucatán (two of the nation’s four largest newspapers) and some other media. Add to this mediatic schizophrenia the factor that those who support Calderón and insist the election was clean are passive, lacking conviction, whereas those millions who believe an electoral fraud was committed are active, and in the streets, and it is evident that just as the Mexican State has lost legitimacy, the corporate (especially television) media have lost credibility and power to spin public opinion.


All the numbers so far are in this article as well as the possible scenarios for Mexico when Fox gives the State address Sept. 1st.

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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2006, 10:23:43 PM »
Update on Fox's Sept. 1 State Address.

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MEXICO CITY — In a historic rebuke, opposition legislators seized control of Mexico's congressional chamber Friday and blocked President Vicente Fox from delivering his final State of the Nation address.

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After giving up, Fox turned and left the building with his wife, Mexico's first lady, Martha Sahagun, who had donned an evening gown for the occasion. Fox smiled and nodded, while Sahagun chatted with the crowd that formed around them outside the building, which had been ringed by riot fencing and was guarded by 6,000 police officers. Then they disappeared into a waiting vehicle.

6,000?

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López Obrador's crowds had slackened in recent weeks, but on Friday there was a renewed sense of energy as thousands of college students, back from summer break, poured into the square.

While López Obrador spoke, and later while Fox was being turned away, Calderón — the man who will soon likely lead this country — was nowhere to be seen.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/n ... ote02.html

I just feel sad about it. And disgusted.
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2006, 08:15:55 AM »
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In shades of the 2000 US presidential election, Mexico's electoral court declared Felipe Calderon president-elect. As the court said, "The presidential elections of the United States of Mexico are valid."

There has been a major controversy over the result of the election and irregularities are rampant. However, Felipe Calderon, with support of Bush, FOX News' Dick Morris, Wal-Mart, Craft, and yes, Halliburton, has been "declared victorious."

Now, in classic corporate Economic Hit Man style, Caldron will begin privatizing Mexico's national oil company and handing over resources owned by the Mexican people to US corporations.


Link; includes video from Democracy Now
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