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Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« on: September 19, 2007, 09:52:32 PM »
by the Israel security cabinet.  CBC story.
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The designation drew an immediate rebuke from United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who urged Israel on Wednesday to reconsider its decision. Ban said any cutoff of vital services would be "contrary to Israel's obligations towards the civilian population under international humanitarian and human rights law."
It appears to be a self-fulfilling designation.  More justification for Israel political authority to deploy inhumane war measures against Palestinian civilians.

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Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2007, 06:32:50 AM »
Really depressing, really bad.

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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 01:14:37 PM »
Gunmen kill 7 in Israel. Egypt says nothing fired from their border, Hamas denies. Looks very co-ordinated. Israel has already responded with strikes to Gaza.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/18/us-israel-egypt-idUSTRE77H1OO20110818

Go to Haaretz for the details, I've lost all copy & paste function.  There you can find not only the timeline, which demonstrates how co-ordinated the attacks were, but also the protesters for a more affordable life have put notice they will not demonstrate this weekend because of it. Also at a press conference with Barak and IDF, gunfire erupted injuring 2. This is all very suspicious with the timing as Palestine wants statehood and I wonder if Hamas would really put that to bed with these attacks.

I gotta figure out what is wrong with my newly cleaned puter, f**k.

Al Jazeera tells us the first packed bus that received gunfire were mostly IDF soldiers on their way home and that Israel is targeting Gaza based Popular Resistance Committees, where they have killed 3 high value targets.


http://www.albawaba.com/news/israel-confirms-gunmen-carried-out-shooting-attack-north-came-lebanon


 
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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 02:27:56 PM »
best place is twitter:

#Eilat
#Gaza

@EmilyLHauser
@JuliaCHurley
@MJRosenberg
@ibnezra
http://www.maannews.net/eng/

ETA: @mjayrosenberg
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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 02:31:52 PM »
K thanks. I've just imported all to Google Chrome and got all my functions back. Yeesh it never ends.
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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 06:07:10 PM »
Thanks Toedancer and Antonia. Palestinians, whether Fatah, Hamas, or other groups would have absolutely NO interest in commiting this violent act when they are attempting to seek status as a nation, not to mention the extremely positive popular movements in Israel - butter, or better olive oil, not guns!

I'll be following this with comrades including from Palestine, Israel and other countries in the Middle East and the Maghreb at the Alternatives Days this weekend!

I'm very sad about this. It means innocent Israelis killed and even more innocent Palestinians killed in retribution. No help in anything, when things were really changing for the better.
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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 07:31:28 PM »
I wouldn't go that far Lagatta, it is certainly a possibility that Hamas is pushing for international intervention against Israel. Have you ever heard of the Gadaffi Precedent? written in March. Yes some of it is pure propaganda, but the scenario is chillingly similar at the moment. Interesting there's not much 'news' of this attack internationally. Palestine is boss @ the UN Security Council come September, which one would think would be helpful to P. But inside Hamas are peeps who do not want any reconciliation with Fatah, after all they are now getting the positions and 'rewards' Fatah once held. Or the other way around eh, Israel may be pounding Gaza for international support on the 'terrists' inside Gaza. You really gotta wonder who is sleeping with whom over there.
The Gadaffi Precedent:

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p18676.xml
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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2011, 07:09:09 PM »
Great post on this mess.

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My gut response is to bury my head in my arms and feel the despair wash over me. What has happened in the last 24 hours is every bad story ever told out of Israel/Palestine, on steroids. It is very hard to not feel like what we are seeing now is just the beginning of something much, much worse, something that will spin and spin and spin out of control until all and everyone are ruined in its ferocity.
But when I lift my head, I see one ray of hope: Those Israelis who are refusing to back down — are refusing to do the very thing that Netanyahu surely wants them to do — and will be back on the streets, in silent memorial and also in powerful presence, on Saturday night. They will go out, they say, to silently honor the dead. But by doing so on the streets they have claimed, these Israelis — my Israelis — are saying loud and clear: We will no longer let you tell us what the truth is.
The balance of power lies with Israel, and has since somewhere in 1948. There was a war between two desperately needy nationalist movements, and my side won. Today, if we want to see an end to this kind of madness, we have to be the side to stop it. We are the side with the power. We are the side with the power.
I have some small, slim, narrow hope that those folks who have been pouring into Israel’s streets for more than a month may finally be the ones to make the leap for us (and I’m encouraged that I’m not the only one). These Israelis may finally be the ones to say: Enough. We must stop that — because we must do this.
Prayers and hope and endless, endless, bottomless love tonight to my Israeli and Palestinian brothers and sisters. Please, please: Save us from ourselves, save us from each other. Please — do not let this butchery and chaos sweep us all away.
It is when we all play safe that we create a world of utmost insecurity. It is when we all play safe that fatality will lead us to our doom. It is in the "dark shade of courage" alone that the spell can be broken.
-- Dag Hammarskjöld

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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 09:56:55 PM »
Thanks for posting this, Antonia. I swear, sometimes I feel I need to fill a script for heavy-duty anti-depressants when I hear the 7:00 am news. :crying
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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2011, 10:01:51 PM »
Yabbut the 7 a.m. news -- and MSM news for that matter -- is not reporting the  whole story in proportion. By that I mean they give equivalence when there is none, in the name of "balance.''
It is when we all play safe that we create a world of utmost insecurity. It is when we all play safe that fatality will lead us to our doom. It is in the "dark shade of courage" alone that the spell can be broken.
-- Dag Hammarskjöld

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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2011, 10:44:14 PM »
Israel has not provided any evidence and the armed wing of Hamas has ended their 2 year ceasefire in response, Israel had intelligence beforehand but apparently bickered as to the 'exact' threat, Israel says it's targeting  the Popular Resistance Committee (the PRC is not affiliated with Hamas), but Gaza is obviously the overkill target. The Egyptians have filed a formal complaint for the 3 deaths of their cops  And so it goes. Anyone know what statements the UN/U.S. has put out?
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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2011, 11:39:18 PM »
Yabbut the 7 a.m. news -- and MSM news for that matter -- is not reporting the  whole story in proportion. By that I mean they give equivalence when there is none, in the name of "balance.''

True. But it's the first thing I hear. Then I go find some kind of sanity on the interwebs :-)
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It is when we all play safe that we create a world of utmost insecurity. It is when we all play safe that fatality will lead us to our doom. It is in the "dark shade of courage" alone that the spell can be broken.
-- Dag Hammarskjöld

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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2011, 12:45:10 PM »
Surly .
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28883.htm


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A Prime Minister under siege, caught in a bind. Tent encampments and more  tent encampments sprouting up all over the country, demonstrations and protests and more demonstrations. The demands for affordable housing and for Social Justice and for a Welfare State occupy the center stage, and the Free Market economics which Netanyahu had worked so hard to foster since he was Finance Minister are suddenly cast into doubt. What did he not try? He used sticks and he used carrots, he tried to entice the protesters with committees and benefits and rabbits drawn from the hat and he tried to castigate them as Leftists and pampered sushi-eaters, and they went on to protest and demonstrate and extend ever further the tent encampments and get their rallies to the peak of three hundred thousands in Tel Aviv. Just yesterday morning, the protesters arrived at the home of Eyal Gabbai, Nethanyahu's Chef de Bureau, and he spoke forthrightly and made it clear to them that the Free Market system will not change, and there will be no taxation on the rich and there will be no Welfare State in Israel. And these cheeky youths did not accept these clear clarifications from their government, and just announced that they will increase ever more their protests and demonstrations.

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How, how to change the focus and move the public agenda in a different direction?
   I would like to give the floor to Social Protest activists, with a selection of messages posted in the past twenty-four hours on the Official Housing Protest Facebook Page.




http://www.facebook.com/j14rev




Oh boy.


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Re: Gaza declared "enemy entity"...
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2011, 03:24:52 PM »
Well, I have predicted for months, if not years, that Israel would implode under its own weight and economic inequities. Now I suspect that Bibi's next move is martial law, or some sort of War Measures Act equivalent.  :popcorn
It is when we all play safe that we create a world of utmost insecurity. It is when we all play safe that fatality will lead us to our doom. It is in the "dark shade of courage" alone that the spell can be broken.
-- Dag Hammarskjöld

 

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