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« on: November 03, 2007, 11:09:54 AM »
Or clusterfuck would better describe it.

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"The chief of army staff has proclaimed a state of emergency and issued a provisional constitutional order," state-run TV said Saturday.

Reuters news agency has reported that government paramilitary troops have been deployed around state-run TV and radio stations.

Private TV networks have had their signals blocked and telephone services in the capital of Islamabad have been cut.

The country's constitution has been suspended. Eight Supreme Court judges refused to endorse the provisional order that Musharraf issued. As a result, Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, chief justice of Pakistan's Supreme Court, has been told his services are no longer required.

Witnesses have told The Associated Press that police have blocked roads leading to the Supreme Court, where the judges remain inside.

No official reason has been given yet for the declaration. Musharraf is expected to address his nuclear-armed, Islamic nation of 161 million people later today.


In other articles Bhutto has been said to have gone back to Dubai to see 'family'

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2007, 11:11:30 AM »
This is very bad. Very very bad. Off to read.

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2007, 11:23:30 AM »
Dawn has switched to emergency update mode.

http://www.dawn.com/2007/11/03/welcome.htm

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2007, 11:30:32 AM »
Mandos, how do they do that? Or how do you find them when they do?

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2007, 11:32:10 AM »
Thanks Mandos. Bhutto returns tonight. Where is Queen Condi?
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2007, 11:33:33 AM »
Thanks, Mandos. Here is a petition from a campaign denouncing an earlier wave of repression against progressive activists in Pakistan, and warning of the continuing dire situation:

http://www.europe-solidaire.org/spip.php?article7663

I guess one must resist the temptation to just crawl into a cellar somewhere... Between this, the threats against Iran, and what is going on in Turkey, it is becoming more dreadful by the hour...
" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2007, 11:40:56 AM »
Condi is irrelevant in this. She will say -- is quoted in some of those reports -- that the U.S. does not support emergency measures, but that is the State Department, and they have become irrelevant.

Musharraf is Cheney's man, and Cheney wants him there, wants a strong clampdown in Pakistan, if he's going to bomb Iran, which he obviously fully intends to do.

There is opposition to all this, but I don't think it's very effective in the U.S. It may be very very effective in Pakistan, but in some ways, that's more worrisome.

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2007, 11:48:48 AM »
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Mandos, how do they do that? Or how do you find them when they do?


You mean, how are they normally?  They have a two column table of article abstracts with links to the full article, and they have more ads.  In emergency mode, they just keep updating full articles down the page.

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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2007, 11:49:28 AM »
Top of msnbc says Bhutto has arrived at airport.

Worrisome indeed - this guy is a dictator and in charge of nukes!
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2007, 11:52:19 AM »
Oh -- I thought you meant that they had somehow been blocked but had an emergency site to go to. Bear of very little tech-intelligence here.

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2007, 11:59:44 AM »
No, they're in Karachi and therefore unbanned.  Banning Dawn The Newspaper is a level above closing down johnny-come-lately private TV stations.  There's nothing that says "establishment" more than Dawn.

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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2007, 12:42:37 PM »
Yes, they are the Pakistani "paper of record", no?
" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2007, 12:55:07 PM »
Yep, though I think that The News/Jang Group of papers has wider circulation.

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2007, 01:04:01 PM »
Very good AP report here, reprinted at TPMM, on how serious the challenges to Musharraf in the northwest have become. Imho, this is directly traceable to the six-year-long deal between Cheney/Bush and Musharraf, for whom al-Qaeda and Afghanistan have always been just the sideshow. They gave Musharraf a pass on the border provinces because they needed favours elsewhere, and that's still the way it is. It is a disastrous policy, has been the whole time, but that of course has never stopped them.

By the time you get to this quote, you'll know what he means:

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"For three years no one did anything. Two years ago you could have arrested Fazlullah with two police constables. Today you need a division," Mohammed said.

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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2007, 06:30:22 PM »
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Worrisome indeed - this guy is a dictator and in charge of nukes!

At least Musharraf seems smart enough not to use them. Pretty bad thing to happen regardless, though, even without the nukes.

And of course, if and when Musharraf is overthrown, it's anyone's guess as to who will be in charge of those nukes. The chances of a clean transition to a sensible leader (say by Bhutto winning an election) have probably diminished a lot with these developments, and the likelyhood has increased that he'll be replaced by someone just as nasty and less rational. That could be a very bad thing.
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