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Re: FTA agreements with Peru, Panama, Colombia
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2009, 06:20:31 PM »
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Why wouldn't Silva tell us how he intends to vote on second reading (which has been delayed)? I mean, it is possible to vote against the bill this time around.

This is my day for feeling churlish - I have already used the word once so far (at pogge's).

Mr. Silva sent me the same letter and I composed a rather snarky post here about it - "Mr. Silva, has asked for a full human rights review of the situation in Columbia before any final decision is taken on the bill" .... wondering what about what part of torturing an killing unionists and reporters he is having a problem with. The man did send me a response to my letter and if he went to that trouble it seemed ...inappropriate to be snide back.

Nah - He's an Ignatieff puppy: a human rights 'expert' in the same way that Mulroney was a Labour Lawyer ....  Well, said, Skdadl.
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Re: FTA agreements with Peru, Panama, Colombia
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2009, 08:44:09 AM »
NDP filibustering Canada-Columbia Free Trade Bill, could tie it up 'forever,' say feds
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The NDP is filibustering the Canada-Columbia Free Trade Agreement legislation and obstructing the work of the House, says Government House Leader Jay Hill, but NDP MPs say it's their right to oppose "bad" legislation.

The debate could go on indefinitely unless there is a motion to limit the time for debate on the amendment. The motion would have to be supported by a majority of MPs, however, and Mr. Hill (Prince George-Peace River, B.C.)said he could not get support from any of the opposition parties to do this.

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Re: FTA agreements with Peru, Panama, Colombia
« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2009, 08:53:01 AM »
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Oh -- it's that "small party," that left-wing fringe group -- that seems to have the support of a majority in the Commons, Mr Hill. And that's called making Parliament work, Mr Hill.

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Re: FTA agreements with Peru, Panama, Colombia
« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2009, 10:21:35 AM »
That's our irony-deficient Government House Leader Jay Hill, master of the Cons' 2007 dirty tricks manual on "how to unleash chaos while chairing parliamentary committees", complaining that NDP opposition to the bill "is making Parliament dysfunctional".
 
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Before the House broke for the Thanksgiving recess, however, Mr. Hill moved a motion that no more amendments or sub-amendments would be allowed to be introduced on the bill. He asked for unanimous consent, but did not get it, so he used Standing Order 56(1) to pass it. The standing order states that if no more than 25 members in the House stand to oppose the motion, it is passed automatically. The Liberals supported the motion, so it was passed

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Re: FTA agreements with Peru, Panama, Colombia
« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2010, 09:02:26 AM »
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Also this afternoon: International Trade Minister Peter Van Loan hits the Commons Foyer for yet another ministerial availability; apparently, he feels the need to remind us all that his government is super keen to both "expand" its "free trade agenda" and "defend free and open trade on the world stage," which is why the government has reintroduced the Canada-Colombia Free Trade Agreement. Is there any reason at all to think that the new version of C-23 won't instantly fall hostage to the same running filibuster that ate up days of precious House time during the last session? No, not really.

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Re: FTA agreements with Peru, Panama, Colombia
« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2010, 12:53:06 PM »
Colombia trade deal change brokered by Liberal MP
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The federal government has agreed to add a new element to Canada's proposed free-trade agreement with Colombia — an amendment brokered by opposition MP Scott Brison.

Acting on his own, the Liberals' International Trade critic approached Colombian leaders earlier this year with the idea of strengthening the human rights provisions of the controversial trade deal.
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Brison's idea was for both countries to conduct annual human-rights assessments to measure the impact of the free-trade deal.

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Re: FTA agreements with Peru, Panama, Colombia
« Reply #51 on: March 27, 2010, 12:37:32 AM »
Yes, do let's have everyone do their own human rights assessments some time in the future.
Much better idea than the June 2008 Committee on International Trade motion that the Canada-Colombia Free Trade Agreement should not be ratified until an independent human rights impact assessment had been carried out first.
And best not to mention the one on Colombia proposed to the UN Special Adviser on the Prevention of Genocide.

ETA : Notable that the news item you link to credits Brison.
Elsewhere I've read Harper taking the credit for initiating it.

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Re: FTA agreements with Peru, Panama, Colombia
« Reply #52 on: March 27, 2010, 06:26:23 AM »
Alison, that 2008 committee motion -- if it's a motion made/passed by the committee, where did it go after that? Don't motions have to be addressed to someone/place?

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Re: FTA agreements with Peru, Panama, Colombia
« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2010, 09:54:52 AM »
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Yes, do let's have everyone do their own human rights assessments some time in the future.
But this is how Ignatieff's Liberals hold people to account. They make people submit report cards that the subjects have filled out themselves. Look how well it's worked with The! Economic! Action! Plan!!

 

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