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Re: Everything Budapest (for arborman and others)
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2008, 01:36:28 PM »
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Yes, there was terrible racism against Hungarians and other central and eastern Europeans.

I was joking about Sarko, obviously. His ancestry has nothing whatsoever to do with him being a loathsome individual (well, perhaps being from la petite noblesse does, but that would be the same if he were "native" French).

My stereotypes about Budapest and other large Hungarian cities are most positive ones about elegant balls, wonderful music, architecture, cafés, good food and wine. Sure, I know that most people who immigrated here from Hungary hailed from small towns and villages and their lives were confined by both provincialism and poverty - but that is the case anywhere, even France or Britain at the time people left there in droves.

Yeah, my probably inaccurate stereotype about Budapest is that it is as beautiful and dynamic and wonderful as Paris, and the people are nice. And there are a few family historical sites there and in Transylvania (where, incidentally, it is currently a serious crime to be caught speaking Hungarian :evil:).

I confess that a little bit of me likes the family history too.  Who wouldn't love a magnificent city that one's ancestors had (at times) been heavily involved in various ways.  My great grandfather's biggest gift to me was a years of talk about the family history (no doubt abridged to protect the innocent) over the past 900 years.  A good thing I don't hold grudges, considering just how many of my ancestors died fighting the Turks over the centuries.  And a pox upon those Hapsburgs for their shenanigans too!
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Re: Everything Budapest (for arborman and others)
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2008, 01:57:53 PM »
Well, Budapest is much smaller than Paris (as is Vienna, the other co-capital of the old Empire) so in that sense it isn't comparable, but it is certainly one of the most beautiful European cities.

Remember that there is a lot less wonderful about Paris for people who live there, and I don't just mean the legendary rudeness (or carapace) that Parisians share with other inhabitants of very large cities, but the horrific commutes - remember that most Parisians actually live in the suburbs, that extend very far from the central core. I love Paris, but I've never had to do much of a commute there, and when I was working (other than telework) I was often at conferences that started and ended later than most workers' commute. And Budapest residents have the reputation of being much friendlier.

I believe that Budapest was largely spared Second World War destruction, no? The government had been fascist allies of the Nazis, finally invaded by the latter in 1944. (This is similar to what happened in Italy, something I know much more about).

I am hoping to be able to study German in Vienna (I have a friend there who has a large house so I can stay there) and of course I'll make the short trip to Budapest!
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Re: Everything Budapest (for arborman and others)
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2008, 02:43:05 PM »
I grew up doing gymnastics, so for me "Magyars" was the name of a complicated gymnastics maneouvre - I only later found out it was the name of a people.

Hungary has produced some pretty incredible athletes. I just found out that one of the most successful gymnasts of all time was a Hungarian Jew, Agnes Keleti, who won several Olympic medals when she was in her 30s. (That is completely and absolutely impossible today.) She was still doing the splits and cartwheels as of 1995 (age 75) and maybe even still is today...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdBz-Gen ... re=related

http://www.gymnpics.com/gymnasticgreats/wag/keleti.htm

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Re: Everything Budapest (for arborman and others)
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2008, 02:44:36 PM »
If your British and the Jones get a new car, then you want to get the same one
If your American and the Jones get a new car, then you want to get a better one
But if your Czech and the Jones get a new car, then you hope it goes off a cliff

My ex-wife was Czech and this was a popular discriptor of a czech
When you're on your own
When you're at a fork in the road
You don't know which way to go
There's too many signs and arrows
You haven't laughed in a while
When you can't even fake a smile
When you feel ashamed...
The uniform don't make you brave

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Re: Everything Budapest (for arborman and others)
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2008, 02:46:27 PM »
Hmm, wonder how one says "Schadenfreude" in Czech.
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Re: Everything Budapest (for arborman and others)
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2008, 04:27:54 PM »
Another yummy Hungarian site!

Chew - Hungarian food blog Food, drink and related cultural subjects.
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Re: Everything Budapest (for arborman and others)
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2008, 07:50:35 PM »
:shock: Those menus!  Would you like another helping of meat with that meat?  Or perhaps a side dish of ... meat?  :lol:

 

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