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Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« on: October 17, 2008, 03:20:25 PM »
I looked around and couldn't find a thread about this, sorry if one already exists.

Sarkosy *hearts* Canada, Sarkozy *hearts* Power Corp. even more

"If I am the president today it is thanks in part to the advice, the friendship and the loyalty of Paul Desmarais," Mr. Sarkozy, 53, said while presenting Mr. Desmarais with the Grand Cross of the Legion of Honour -- France's highest honour, which is rarely given to foreigners.
And he feels like a regular member of the Desmarais family now; such a deal.

He's really sorry about the environmental damage caused by the Tarsands, but ..... that's because his good friend fellow billionaire from Belgium and a major shareholder with Mr. Desmarais in the French energy giant Total SA, which has significant investments in the Alberta oilsands. And he said..."Everyone must make an effort, with greater or lesser constraints, based on their level of development." After the deal is done I'd imagine those 'constraints' will be removed, afterall don't these negotiations include aligning or harmonizing recognized standards. IOW's low standards.
And as I've pointed out in another thread regarding the labour mobility section, Canada Disregarded the NAFTA Public Disclosure Law.
viewtopic.php?t=19408&start=0

He's also sorry Canada is removing itself from Afghanistan but that's because...."We are not allowed to lose this battle." France that is, oy vey.
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Re: Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 02:33:25 AM »
Sarkozy:
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"With its international leverage and new socio-economic model, at the crossroads of the European and American systems, Canada can make a vital contribution to the discussions on this financial situation."


"new socio-economic model"? What does that mean? Maybe this :
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Christos Sirros, head of the Can-EU Quebec mission said : "Europe views a Can-EU FTA as a precursor to getting into the US market."
and this :
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an open market in government services and procurement – which would require that Canadian governments allow European companies to bid as equals on government contracts for both goods and services and end the favouring of local or national providers of public-sector services."

I keep an eye on M. Desmarais. He is on the board of Suez Group, the world's largest water privatization corporation, and his wife, who is chairperson of a right wing think tank, writes editorials in our national papers about the benefits of selling bulk water.

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Re: Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2008, 03:34:37 AM »
Quote from: Alison@Creekside
I keep an eye on M. Desmarais. He is on the board of Suez Group, the world's largest water privatization corporation, and his wife, who is chairperson of a right wing think tank, writes editorials in our national papers about the benefits of selling bulk water.

This is One World kind of shit, isn't it?  Isn't it what the Right's been after forever?  One world government?

I'm curious about Mme Desmarais and her think tank, not to mention her connections...

And isn't Sarkozy heavily to the right?  When I heard him on AIH tonight I felt sick.  Waaay too smooth...
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Re: Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2008, 05:18:37 AM »
Well, actually historically it was the LEFT that was for one world government:

"L'Internationale sera le genre humain" and all that.

Think the right is more for world domination - they certainly don't want "world government", which would imply just representation for the global majority in the south, to say nothing of popular classes.

The problem is here, they are selling it with a point which many have caressed fondly - humanpower mobility between Québec and France. Though of course that deliberately averts the question of why a QuébécoisE would be more entitled to a professional post in France than an Algerian or Senegalese who is just as qualified and speaks French just as well.

Yes, Sarko is a creepy fellow indeed, and notorious for his hard line on youth, on undocumented workers and their families (though much of the French and EU economy depends on them), on the trade unions and workers' rights. Hope there were some protests against the little shit. (Guess Harpie can be the big shit).
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Re: Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2008, 06:35:32 AM »
Alison, by wife of Desmarais, do you mean wife of senior or junior? Here is the fambly -- mama is Jacqueline Desmarais, and wife of junior is Helene Blouin. Which one is writing the editorials?

How deeply offensive -- to the French nation, I should have thought -- that Sarkozy would admit openly that he was giving someone a high state honour because that person had helped him to become president. God. Is that brazen or what?

ETA: The thing about the Desmarais power swirl is that it has been there for so long, and most of our leading politicians have been caught up in it. Chretien was; Martin was; hell, Bob Rae is.

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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2008, 02:52:10 PM »
Skdadl and B :  Hélène Desmarais, married to Paul Jr.
Understand I don't know anything about these people - I just wondered where the recent newspaper items and editorials about the benefits of water privatization were coming from.
This one in The Star :Think tank urges Canada to flow towards water exporting cites a report from the Montreal Economic Forum. MEF is pro privatization of water and medicare. They have an article about privatizing Hydro Quebec up on their webpage at the moment.
Hélène is chairman of the board of Montreal Economic Forum.
Hélène's husband Paul Jr. of PowerCorp, is on the board of directors of Suez, world leader in the sector of water privatization.

Old blog post on same at Creekside.
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Re: Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2008, 03:00:03 PM »
Thanks folks.  I missed some significant stuff this summer when I was out of the loop at the beach and looped out on pain meds after that.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2010, 04:45:41 AM »
Youtube of former Irish MP and current Member of the European Parliament Joe Higgins raising concerns re Canada-EU trade deal.

So we're relying on a former Irish MP to speak up for Canadian interests at the EU now?

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Re: Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2010, 09:09:54 AM »
It's an interesting situation. Higgins is obviously a good unionist and in touch with savvy people here. So it's almost a parallel to a Canadian progressive speaking with concern on behalf of oppressed workers in, eg, Honduras or Colombia and against our government's deals with those governments and on behalf of exploitative Canadian mining corpses. We are Honduras -- think about it.

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Re: Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2010, 09:28:29 AM »
Oh, Skdadl, could you copy that comment to The Beav where I've just posted about it.

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Re: Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2010, 10:23:31 AM »
Done. Right after I run after a recycling truck, I'll post it to Creekside too.  :panic

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Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2010, 11:35:11 AM »
We have a thread on provinces losing more rights, well according to the leaked documents (EU/Canada) they are about to lose even more. And of course this is the main reason Harper is in Europe right now.

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On May 6, 2009, Prime Minister Stephen Harper launched negotiations with Europe toward a Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement that will go beyond NAFTA in ways that threaten public services and local democracy in Canada. On April 19, 2010, the Trade Justice Network leaked the draft consolidated text of the agreement to start a public debate on the effect the agreement would have on a number of public policy areas in Canada.
  While Canadian companies are mostly interested in reducing European regulatory barriers to entry for products like meat and genetically modified crops, European companies see Canada's public services, including water treatment, transportation, energy and even health care, as ripe for privatization. Most of these services are delivered provincially or locally, which is why for the first time the provinces (though not their cities) are part of the negotiations.
  Because these services are often delivered through public spending at the provincial and municipal level, the EU is also pushing to liberalize local procurement rules, which will weaken democratic controls over how communities spend public money — controls that currently let communities set their own economic priorities but that would be eliminated in favour of corporate priorities under the Canada-EU agreement.
  Leaked CETA text below

http://www.tradejustice.ca/tiki-index.php

When you go to FAQS (Food Sovereignty) you will see:
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Eliminate the Right to Save Seed?
  The trade deal would almost entirely eliminate the rights of farmers to save, reuse and sell seed.
  Plant varieties can be protected as intellectual property through Plant Breeders Rights as well as patents on genes. The trade deal would give rights holders an unprecedented degree of control over seeds and farming by committing Canada to adopt UPOV'91, the draconian 1991 version of The International Convention for the Protection of New Plant Varieties. The inclusion of UPOV'91 in the deal is completely unnecessary and is excessively harmful to Canadian farmers. Seed breeders would have the right to collect royalties on seed at any point in the food chain!
  The draft of the trade deal also says that biotech corporations could seize the crops, equipment, and farms, and freeze the bank accounts of farmers who are deemed patent infringers, like farmers who find unwanted contamination in their fields.
I wonder how long it will be before every country becomes part of the EU or whatever they call it to include all. England is next.

eta - forgot more @ http://www.cban.ca/
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Re: Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2013, 11:21:51 AM »
Here's the latest, from the Vancouver Sun:
 
Mulcair ponders support for Canada-Europe pact: Federal NDP leader adopts moderate tone at the risk of alienating strident members of his caucus
 
(there's that word "strident"  :mad2  )

Mulcair's comments raised eyebrows in a Canadian union movement that, only last week, joined other Canadian and European labour and environmental groups to denounce expected Canada-EU concessions to major multinational corporations.
 
But Mulcair's statements are part of a long-term strategy, evident under the late Jack Layton, to gradually moderate the NDP's position.
 
Mulcair is attempting to position himself as a credible candidate in 2015 to be Canada's next prime minister, noted University of B.C. political scientist Philip Resnick.
 
If Mulcair is serious about embracing free trade - and several insiders say privately that he is - he'll have to keep onside several key caucus members who come from groups that have fought tooth and nail, without success, to defeat trade pacts like the North American Free Trade Agreement.
 
Among those most likely to object are high-profile Vancouver-East MP Libby Davies, usually considered the leader of the party's left wing in caucus, and Peter Julian, former executive director of a strongly anti-trade-deal organization, the Council of Canadians. Finance critic Peggy Nash, meanwhile, is a former senior official with the Canadian Auto Workers, which is bitterly critical of some of the elements expected to be included in the Canada-EU trade agreement.
 
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  Barlow acknowledged that the Canadian left, even if it was frustrated by a major trade reversal, wouldn't abandon the party if it was seen to have a chance of forming government.
 
"This is the worst government we've ever had in this country - the most right-wing, anti-democratic, anti-environment, anti-human rights government ever - and we need to get rid of them."


 
and which prompted this column (on rabble):
 
Open letter to Thomas Mulcair: Maintain NDP's opposition to 'trade' deals like CETA
 
 
My position is that we bond together to get rid of Harper at whatever costs, and then work from there.
 
 
 
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Re: Canada/EU/ Trade Deal
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2013, 10:31:18 PM »
HEY HARPER, WHAT’S THE DEAL WITH EUROPE?
 
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Prime Minister Stephen Harper has returned empty-handed from a week-long trip to Europe. He was expected to announce that Canada and the EU had wrapped up negotiations on the biggest corporate rights deal this country has ever seen.
 
Thankfully that didn't happen. But there is every chance it will, and soon.
 
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THIS IS MORE THAN A TRADE DEAL
If you think CETA is just about trade, think again. From leaked documents over the past three years, we know this “deal” is more like a corporate bill of rights. CETA will reach into our communities and every level of government to make unnecessary and unwanted public policy changes that could:
 
 HARPER UNDER PRESSURE TO SELL OUT TO EUROPE
These are the parts of CETA we already know about. Harper is under enormous pressure from corporate lobby groups and the media to do whatever he has to do to get a deal done with Europe. What will this cost our public services, the environment and local democracy?
 
 
 
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