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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2008, 12:37:21 PM »
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Conservatives back down on controversial party funding changes

Hopefully the opposition (especially the OFFICIAL opposition) takes heed of this object lesson in basic parliamentary democracy: showing some fucking spine actually gets results.

Imagine that.
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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2008, 12:54:21 PM »
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A government source now claims the elimination of the $1.95-per-vote subsidy was never intended to be part of the ways and means motion, which will be voted on Monday evening.

But Liberals and New Democrats say that dropping the financing measures will not influence their decision to vote against a fiscal update they say provides no economic stimulus at a time when Canada is entering a recession.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/545220

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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2008, 02:34:28 PM »
CBC just said Dion is to be coalition leader. Can't find it on newswire.
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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2008, 02:52:05 PM »
I don't know how reliable this radio station is but Liberals to propose confidence motion Monday.
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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2008, 03:13:00 PM »
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I don't know how reliable this radio station is but Liberals to propose confidence motion Monday.

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The Liberal motion, which has the approval of the NDP and Bloc Quebecois, reads:

"In light of the government's failure to recognize the seriousness of Canada's economic situation and its failure in particular to present any credible plan to stimulate the Canadian economy and to help workers and businesses in hard-pressed sectors such as manufacturing, the automotive industry and forestry, this House has lost confidence in this government and is of the opinion that a viable alternative government can be formed within the present House of Commons."
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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2008, 03:19:51 PM »
I never thought I'd be happy to hear Stephane Dion would be Prime Minister.

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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2008, 03:21:57 PM »
Well, I'll be damned!  This is, well, I dunno wtf this is!  Good for Canada, I surely hope!
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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2008, 03:23:51 PM »
Oh, I sure have, RP.

Think of it -- three birds with one stone -- Harper, Iggy, and Rae. Dion may just be able to pull this off.

Well: Chretien and Broadbent may be able to pull this off. Och, there's no one like an old fox, eh?   :mrgreen:

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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2008, 03:33:09 PM »
Hmm...this CBC piece suggests the Cons could avoid defeat.

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However, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's minority government, re-elected six weeks ago, could still avert defeat through procedural tactics.

But I wasn't able to glean those from the article.


ETA:  And oh, the rabid rightwingnutz are going wild in the comments sections!!!  Loving this, I am.  Just LOVING!!!
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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2008, 03:53:09 PM »
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I never thought I'd be happy to hear Stephane Dion would be Prime Minister.

As per Bob Fife @ CTV News, it seems unlikely that Dion would head a Lib/NDP coalition (also, BQ would not hold any cabinet seats, but will agree to support Lib/NDP coalition)
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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2008, 03:56:26 PM »
I don't usually like playing politics this way, but for once, just this once, I want to see our side go in for the kill, and I mean the kill.

They won't fix our mucked-up electoral system? Fine. We have a chance, for a change, to use it against them. So let's do it.

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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2008, 03:57:34 PM »
Governor General could come home if constitutional crisis erupts
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Aides say Michaelle Jean is being kept fully briefed on developments at home as she visits Hungary, the Slovak and Czech Republics and Slovenia.

They say she is also keenly aware of her constitutional responsibilities that might come into play as early as Monday.

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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2008, 04:17:51 PM »
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I don't usually like playing politics this way, but for once, just this once, I want to see our side go in for the kill, and I mean the kill.

They won't fix our mucked-up electoral system? Fine. We have a chance, for a change, to use it against them. So let's do it.

I hear what you're saying, skdadl, it's not the best way to begin.  BUT.  This is about more than political games, I think.  This is more about stopping the political games that we know damned well the Harper is all about than about playing more political games!

I still want to know how Harper might be able to weasel his way out!

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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2008, 04:47:17 PM »
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it seems unlikely that Dion would head a Lib/NDP coalition

I dunno, Mattt, he's presumably gone in May which makes him non-threatening.
OK, not a big Dion fan but .... Biggest come-back evah!

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The Liberal motion, which has the approval of the NDP and Bloc Quebecois, reads:

"In light of the government's failure to recognize the seriousness of Canada's economic situation and its failure in particular to present any credible plan to stimulate the Canadian economy and to help workers and businesses in hard-pressed sectors such as manufacturing, the automotive industry and forestry, this House has lost confidence in this government and is of the opinion that a viable alternative government can be formed within the present House of Commons."

A source says the opposition parties have agreed that Liberal Leader Stephane Dion would lead the government for the next few months.


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Re: Canadian coalition government?
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2008, 04:58:54 PM »
Ignatieff and Rae must be going bonkers, trying to figure out the long, medium and short-term outcomes of a coalition government and how that could affect their chances of becoming PM.  Especially if Dion is being considered for the interim.

 

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