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George Galloway banned from Canada
« on: March 20, 2009, 01:13:11 PM »
Yep, a sitting UK MP has been banned from a speaking tour in Canada. Generations of old Tories on both sides of the pond are rolling over in their graves as RepubliCon Minister Kenney has actually banned his speaking tour.

And as George adds: “On a personal note – for a Scotsman to be barred from Canada is like being told to stay away from the family home.

“This is not something I’m prepared to accept.”

(Sir John A just rolled over, there)...

http://www.georgegalloway.com/

More at the Guardian: George Galloway banned from Canada
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 01:23:13 PM »
I read the Guardian link thanks to Berlynn's post at P n P. This is just more proof that we can't expect anything intelligent or censé from this government. Anytime they do manage to make a sensible move, it's a fluke.

Bunch of idiots  - part of me just wants to ignore them and hope that will make them go away.  :roll:  :rant:

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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2009, 01:54:32 PM »
So what can we do about this outrage?

Some of us (at Québec solidaire) were among the people seeking a speaking venue for George who was set to be in Montréal 1 April (pas un poisson). Both anglophone universities (McGill and Concordia) had refused his presence as a "security risk", so we were looking at the francophone unis, and of course simultaneous interpretation - he'd be fun to interpret,actually

Galloway is being punished for the heroic relief initiative to provide succour to the suffering people of Gaza and break the siege. Even Egypt and Israel let the relief in - it was medicine, food, blankets, and children's toys, as well as the whole convoy of ambulances, mobile clinics and other needed vehicles.
" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2009, 02:36:52 PM »
But we let George Bush in just a couple of days ago?  Is it opposite day or something?
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2009, 06:27:38 PM »
Quote from: lagatta

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Galloway is being punished for the heroic relief initiative to provide succour to the suffering people of Gaza and break the siege. Even Egypt and Israel let the relief in - it was medicine, food, blankets, and children's toys, as well as the whole convoy of ambulances, mobile clinics and other needed vehicles.

It took quite a bit of googling about to find out what eventually happened to that convoy. I finally found something in Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper. It was in a link from the story about Galloway being banned from Canada. It seems they all made it, even after some 'affair' at a border crossing - not with Israeli forces, but Egyptian:
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On Sunday, activists belonging to Galloway's "Viva Palestina" convoy clashed with Egyptian security forces in the north Sinai town of el-Arish, close to the border with Gaza.

The large equipment, the fire engine and generators were diverted to the British Embassy in Israel, for later access to Gaza.
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Other aid, including electrical generators and a fire engine, would enter Israel, where the British delegation hoped to get it into Gaza through coordination with the International Committee of the Red Cross, the official said.

It will be interesting to see if they make it to Gaza.
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 10:45:44 PM »
Galloway's Guardian comment piece on this: George Galloway: Canada can't muzzle me

Sadly ironic that his statements have once again been confirmed in the saddest way by the deaths of four more Canadian troops in Afghanistan.  :(
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 12:10:06 AM »
Wow, welcome to the moronocracy of fascist canada. Coincides with his new belief that you can't be a good citizen if you can't speak English or French, so he's telling potential immigrants to go home and learn the language first. Now that he has cut off funding to Arabs who need English. This little man needs muzzling, he's giving Canadians a name in anti-muslim racism and bigotry.
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2009, 07:13:37 AM »
Here is a communiqué in French about the Galloway ban. I'll try to find it in English - by the text it obviously exists in English as well:


COMMUNIQUÉ DE PRESSE

Les mouvements pour la paix condamnent les attaques portées à la liberté
d'expression par le ministre Kenney

Le député britannique Georges Galloway a l'intention de défier
l'interdiction de séjour qui lui a été adressée par les autorités
canadiennes.


Les organisateurs de la série de conférences du député britannique Georges
Galloway qui doit se tenir dans quatre villes canadiennes contestent la
décision du ministre de l'Immigration et de la Citoyenneté du Canada,
Jason Kenney d'interdire M. Galloway d'entrer au pays. Le ministre Kenney
demande cette interdiction en raison de l'opposition du député britannique
envers la guerre en Afghanistan. Le ministre étiquette ainsi cet élu
britannique comme étant une menace à la « sécurité nationale ».

« Il s'agit ici d'une attaque en règle portée à la liberté d'expression au
Canada que tous les partisans des libertés civiles doivent défier, » a
déclaré James Clark de la Coalition fin à la guerre de Toronto (Toronto
Coalition to Stop the War), l'un des groupes organisateurs de la tournée
de Georges Galloway. « L'interdiction du ministre Kenney est un geste sans
précédent qui vise à censurer une personnalité publique dont l'opinion
critique la politique étrangère de notre gouvernement. Nous n'accepterons
pas cette interdiction et nous entendons la défier. »

Les organisateurs vont poursuivre l'organisation de ces quatre événements
à se tenir au Canada et dans lesquels Georges Galloway doit s'adresser au
public : le 30 mars à Toronto, le 31 mars à Mississauga, le 1er avril à
Montréal et le 2 avril à Ottawa. Les responsables de cette série de
conférences invitent fortement les gens à continuer de se procurer leurs
billets afin de démontrer leur soutien à la liberté d'expression.

« D'une façon ou d'une autre, nous allons faire venir M. Galloway au
Canada, » affirme Laith Marouf, coordonnateur de la section nationale du
groupe Solidarité pour les droits humains palestiniens (Solidarity for
Palestinians Human Rights). « Nous sommes déjà submergés de messages
d'appui et nous envisageons déjà une délégation de députés, d'avocats et
d'activistes pour escorter M. Galloway au passage de la frontière
canado-américaine. On prévoit défier l'interdiction directement. »

Les organisateurs tiendront une réunion d'urgence le dimanche 22 mars à
15h au Centre Ryerson de l'Université Ryerson de Toronto afin de préparer
une campagne pancanadienne pour défendre la liberté d'expression et pour
faire lever cette interdiction. Le lancement de la campagne est prévu dès
le lundi 23 mars lors d'une conférence de presse se tiendra à Toronto.
(Plus d'information à venir à ce sujet)

Pour plus de renseignements :

(Anglais) James Clark, porte-parole, cellulaire : 416-795-5863
(Francais) Rezeq Faraj, porte-parole, cellulaire : 514-865-7908
" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2009, 11:43:30 PM »
I am not, in any way, a fan of Jason Kenney - nor am I am big supporter of Stockwell Day - even if I understand he is a rather amusing fellow to know.

As this thread demonstrates, sometimes the border patrol people are used to purposes that seem to be beyond their apparent mandate. One example is to prevent that dangerous 'lefty' (according to JC) George Galloway from entering Canada. While I generally agree with George, he is a bit too bombastic for my tastes - even if he is correct more often than he is wrong. I cannot see a problem with his entering the country, if George is enough to cause the Canadian masses to take to the barricades in outright class warfare, then the Canadian establishment is in bad shape indeed.

But, I have come upon this through following a lead from the well written and entertaining  DAMMIT JANET.

The border guards were instructed to prevent another group from entering Canada in August of 2008. This was Fred Phelps and his bunch of Westboro Baptist Church members. These are the sensitive feeling people that parade with signs at the funerals of HIV/AIDS victims saying meaningful things like: GOD HATES FAGS. They intended to hoist their signs at the funeral of Tim McLean - the young fellow that was decapitated on a Greyhound Bus in 2008.

It seems that Stock ordered the border guard folks to: to prevent members of the Westboro Baptist Church, a controversial Kansas-based sect, from entering the country.

DAMMIT - I think that is a good idea .... these 'church' member sin against decency, respect and taste - and we do not need them in Canada. I am not sure they break any laws.

BUT

If I can condone Stockwell ordering them to do that (apparently they blew it and the church members got in) - can I oppose the same action against Galloway and be consistent? Consistency in the application of legal matters is important and bending laws to suit an immediate desire is a mark of dictatorships. The LAW is the will of the dictator - hopefully our country has not sunk to that. Unfortunately it comes rather close, both with the George Galloway situation and with the Westboro Baptist Church members.

I think I shall go off and grok* POGGE's byline wondering: Who promised you democracy would be easy?    

* Heinlein's Martian verb for a thorough understanding
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2009, 04:53:28 PM »
Fascinating isn't it? The powers that be simply cannot tolerate a man who knows how to defend himself and does so. The other message I get from Galloway's experiences as a politician is that one cannot change things from within, which is the current truth. He's like the biggest whistleblower to have held a seat. Didn't he once say the sun never sets on the Empire because God wouldn't trust England in the dark? Well he must be marginalized, he must be silenced, at all costs! Can't have an Englishman running around telling the people they are owned completely utterly and without mercy, it could stir up feelings of legitimate dissent. Who runs Canada again? I had no idea we were such a controlled state.
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2009, 05:18:38 PM »
URGENT ! URGENT! Endossez la tournée de George Galloway/ Endorse George Galloways Canada tour

                                        (English below)
 
SVP FAIRE CIRCULER DANS TOUS VOS RÉSEAUX.  MERCI !
 
Le Collectif Échec à la guerre endosse l'appel ci-dessous et invite tous ses membres et sympatisantEs à l'endosser rapidement, en tant qu'organismes et à titre individuel.
 
Solidairement !
 
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Endossez la tournée de George Galloway au Canada - NON à son interdiction !
 
En réponse à l'interdiction de séjour au Canada (du 30 mars au 1er avril), prononcée par le gouvernement Harper contre le député britannique George Galloway, nous vous demandons d'endosser massivement la tenue de ses conférences au Canada et de dénoncer la censure et les attaques contre ceux et celles qui s'opposent aux politiques de Harper au Moyen-Orient et en Afghanistan.  L'ajout de vos noms contribuera à faire monter la pression pour que le gouvernement lève son interdiction.

Nous vous appelons à signer la déclaration ci-dessous par principe, à titre individuel et en tant qu'organisme.

Et nous vous demandons de faire circuler cet appel dans tous vos réseaux.

Solidairement,
Le Comité Laissez parler Galloway
Let Galloway Speak Committee
Galloway.Canada@gmail.com
 
Pour plus des renseignements  sur la tournée de George Galloway "Resisting war from Gaza to Kandahar", svp, visitez les sites suivants :  http://www.sphr.org  (Montréal);   http://ottawapeace.blogspot.com/ (Ottawa);  et  http://www.nowar.ca/ (Toronto).
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Endossez:
 
Les organisations, institutions, et individus suivants, établis au Québec et au Canada, endossent la venue au Canada du député britannique George Galloway pour nous parler du Moyen-Orient, de l'Asie centrale et du rôle du Canada dans ces régions.

Nous avons le droit d'être informés au sujet de la Palestine, d'Israël, de l'Afghanistan et du rôle du Canada au Moyen-Orient et en Asie centrale et nous avons le droit de soutenir le peuple palestinien.

Nous trouvons inacceptable que le gouvernement Harper s'attaque ainsi aux libertés civiles et aux droits de la personne en interdisant, en censurant et/ou en menaçant les opposants à sa politique dans ces régions.

Nous dénonçons l'étiquetage diffamatoire de ceux et celles qui sont en désaccord avec les politiques du gouvernement Harper au Moyen-Orient comme terroristes, sympatisantEs du terrorisme ou antisémites.
 
*** Retournez votre endossement  à l'adresse suivante : Galloway.Canada@gmail.com
 
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PLEASE CIRCULATE THROUGH ALL YOUR NETWORKS.  THANKS!
 
Collectif Echec a la guerre endorses the appeal below
and invites all its members and sympatisers to endorse
it quickly, as organisations and individually.
 
In solidarity !
 
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Endorse George Galloway Canada Tour-End the Ban
 
In response to the Harper government's banning British MP George Galloway from Canada (March 30 to April1), we are circulating a mass endorsement of his presentations in Canada, and denouncing the censorship and attacks on those who oppose Harper's policies in the Middle East and Afghanistan. Your names will add pressure to get the government to lift the ban.

We urge you and your organization to sign on as a matter of principle.

Please forward this endorsement to others.

Solidarity,
Let Galloway Speak Committee
Le Comité Laissez parler Galloway
Galloway.Canada@gmail.com

For more information on George Galloway's Canada tour "Resisting war from Gaza to Kandahar", please visit: (Montreal)  http://www.sphr.org web; (Ottawa)  http://ottawapeace.blogspot.com/; and (Toronto) http://www.nowar.ca/
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Endorse:
 
We the following Quebec and Canadian organizations, institutions, and individuals endorse British MP George Galloway's presence in Canada to speak on the Middle East, Central Asia and Canada's role in these regions.

We have the right to be informed about Palestine, Israel, Afghanistan and Canada's role in the Middle East and Central Asia, and we have the right to support the Palestinian people.

We find it unacceptable that the Harper government has crossed the line against civil liberties and human rights in banning, censoring and/or threatening its opponents on the Middle East and Central Asia.

We denounce the libeling of those who disagree with the Harper government's Middle East policies as terrorists, supporters of terrorism, or anti-Semites.
 
*** Email your endorsement to: Galloway.Canada@gmail.com
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2009, 05:49:43 PM »
Done. Am I now an enemy combatant?
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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2009, 05:56:33 PM »
Um. I don't understand. Are we simply to send a blank email to that address, so our email addresses show up as among the endorsers?

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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2009, 07:21:30 PM »
I wrote a brief message saying that I enthusiastically endorse the statement of the Let Galloway Speak Committee, and then I signed with my meat-space name and city.

I'm not sure that makes us enemy combatants, Toe, but we probably go on Jason Kenney's list of people lacking in "Canadian values."

ETA: There's also a petition around somewhere that I've signed, and a Facebook group.

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Re: George Galloway banned from Canada
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2009, 11:00:48 PM »
Let Him Speak : Allow George Galloway To Speak In Canada
Over 4000 members on Facebook and over 3000 sigs on the Petition
I had put the Weinstein vid up yesterday too and today so has Dr. Dawg.
Belated tah for the link to Velshi post at the Beav, Skdadl.

 

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