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Mandos

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2009, 10:18:00 PM »
You realize that about 2/3rds of the reason for starting this thread was so that I could use the phrase "Down Episcope"?  I've been wanting to do that for SO LONG!!!

skdadl

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2009, 05:49:36 AM »
Why not "episcopope"?

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2009, 07:56:35 AM »
[drift] With respect to Holy Trinity, one of my favourite things about the church is the plaque describing the consecration of the church.  The presiding prelate was, of course, Bishop Strachan.  I love that he was forced to preside over the creation of what must have been one of the biggest thorns in his side ever[/drift]

Mandos

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2009, 10:22:39 AM »
skdadl: It doesn't rhyme with "Down Periscope".

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2009, 10:37:50 AM »
It does so rhyme. It's also better syncopated.

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2009, 11:22:21 AM »
It has too many syllables.

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2009, 11:26:16 AM »
Vaguely kind of related: the NCR on the perils of cultural androgyny.

http://www.ncregister.com/site/article/ ... _and_woman

skdadl

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2009, 12:04:05 PM »
Quote from: Mandos
It has too many syllables.

Only in the most banal kind of poetry.

Both lines have two stresses; each ends with a dactyl. Scans perfectly.

ETA: For scansion, read e-PIS-co-pope.

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2009, 12:52:40 PM »
It doesn't parse.  Periscope <- peri + skopos.  Episcope <- epi + skopos.  Episcopope <- epi + skopos + pe...?

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2009, 01:02:38 PM »
Mandos, first you refer to rhyming when you mean scansion. Now you refer to parsing when you mean derivation or etymology.

Srsly. I'm writing English poetry here. And in English, that's poetry.

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2009, 01:35:43 PM »
Parsing and derivation are arguably the same thing, but you may be using "parsing" in a different sense from me.  There's a huge argument in linguistics as to whether morphology and syntax are actually one "morphosyntax" or two separate domains.  I lean latter, but parsing (syntactic analysis) still seems to have compellingly analogous equivalents in word structure and phonology.  

Anyway, I wasn't trying to write poetry as a primary goal, but instead to draw an amusing and incongruous analogy between a Kelsey Grammar movie and the Anglican-Catholic altercations via a pun.

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2009, 02:19:30 PM »
Well, "parsing" is used very loosely in political circles these days to mean anything from  "close analysis" to "shaving meaning cynically" to outright deception, and I've sort of given in to going with the flow in those sorts of conversations.

To me, parsing just means grammatical analysis, with syntactical maybe as a back-up, especially if you're editing something and trying to explain to someone why that structure won't work in a particular language.

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Re: Down Episcope
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2009, 02:35:02 PM »
The thing is, Mandos, that Down Episcope is a clever pun, but Down Episcopope is a clever double pun.  Anyway, I thank you both for the amusement.
Economics is a human creation, borders are human creations and nature doesn’t give a damn about these things. - David Suzuki

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Re: Down Episcope
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Re: Down Episcope
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