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« on: April 20, 2010, 09:02:03 AM »
Con Jay Hill pulled a fast one on Friday by introducing a motion to curtail any further debate on the Canada-Colombia Free Trade Investment Bill. It passed.
 
Today it passed 2nd reading inthe House with help from 37 Libs who voted with the Cons :
former human rights activist Ignatieff, Dion, Rae, Bagnell, Brison, Bagnell, Belanger, Crombie, Cuzner, Dryden, Kirsty Duncan, Easter, Eyking, Fry, Garneau, Goodale, Holland, Hall Findlay, LeBlanc, MacAuley, McCallum, McGuinty, John McKay, Mendes, Shawn Murphy, Murray, Oliphant, Proulx, Ratansi, Regan, Rota, and Russell.
 
No Libs voted against it although some abstained.
 
Now it goes off to committee where 7 of the 12 members already voted in favour of it today. It's a done deal.
 
http://creekside1.blogspot.com/2010/04/friday-night-canada-colombia-fta-news.html
 
Thanks for writing to 'em, Croghie.

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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2010, 10:07:10 AM »
Well, Ignatieff doesn't surprise me, but Rae just used up the last bit of tolerance I've been trying to save for him. I don't see Dosanjh in the list, or Dr Martin either.

I was slow to catch up to Hill's sneaky move, but I watched whazzizname from Saskatoon for a bit on CPAC yesterday. He was smooth enough, except for when he broke into cheap shots about Adscam (don't ask), whereupon you remember what you're listening to.

Off to read you, Alison. So how long have we got? I'm thinking of trying to guilt the hell out of Rae.

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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010, 11:09:28 AM »
Quote from: skdadl;181142
Off to read you, Alison. So how long have we got? I'm thinking of trying to guilt the hell out of Rae.

Lay it on thick, skdadl!  Thick as molasses in January!
Never retreat, never explain, never apologize--get the thing done and let them howl.  -- Nellie McClung

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 02:22:18 PM »
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Lay it on thick, skdadl! Thick as molasses in January!

As noted in another thread...I trust that is Crosby's Molasses out of Saint John N.B. :eyebrows:
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 01:43:06 AM »
Inside the International Trade Committee Scott Brison continues to behave as if someone is holding a "stupid" gun to his head over the CCFTA. It's creepy, actually. He's really grasping at straws now. Who owns the straws?
 
Debra, could you fold this thread into the Colombia Peru FTA agreements thread for the sake of continuity? I started this one 10 days ago when the search function was iffy and I couldn't find the original one. Thanks.

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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 06:17:40 AM »
Great report, Alison -- thank you for doing this work for us. Left a note at your place.

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 05:01:02 PM »
Bloomberg is predicting Colombian Green Party candidate Antanas Mockus to win over Defense Minister Santos in the elections next month. Interesting guy Who knows...

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2010, 06:10:43 PM »
Given the history of the Democratic traditions of Uribe's supporters - I hope he has invested heavily in kevlar.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 02:31:58 PM »
We get mail (from the Canadian Labour Congress):
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*We need your help!*

The federal government has moved to shut down hearings at the Committee on
International Trade on the legislation to implement the Canada-Colombia free
trade deal.

The Committee has yet to hear from a long list of expert witnesses who know what
is really happening in Colombia on human rights abuses and attacks on trade
unionists.

Hold Members of Parliament to account. Help us make sure this motion by
Conservative MP Gerald Keddy is defeated tomorrow by sending this email to
Liberal members of the Committee
who might be inclined to vote to shut down hearings and prevent a real debate
about the human rights situation in Colombia.
The link embedded in the message just redirects to this page where you can send an email to Liberal members of the committee asking them to vote against Gerald Keddy's motion.

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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 03:31:31 PM »
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The link embedded in the message just redirects to this page where you can send an email to Liberal members of the committee asking them to vote against Gerald Keddy's motion.

When I came on line a few minutes ago that was the first email I looked at. Sent off a letter as per request ... even (mostly) civil ... it is hard to speak to Libruls without using the word Quisling.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2010, 02:18:16 AM »
Well that's odd. Pogge's CLC link is now "Page not found" and what's more I can't find anything about the letter that was there two days ago anywhere on the CLC site now, although it's still in Google cache. Sent the letter Monday morning but unusually enough, have not received any form letter replies back from MPs either.

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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2010, 05:10:50 AM »
Same here.

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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2010, 05:28:36 AM »
me too .... usually get at least an acknowledgement of it being received.
 
just went through the CLC web site and found no evidence of it.
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2010, 06:53:44 AM »
You know, I've listened to a lot of committees and heard a lot of self-serving contentious bs in them, but I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone be as rude to a witness as Scott Brison was to Barbara Wood of the Canadian Council for International Co-operation in the Trade Committee on the Colombia FTA today. I sure hope some reporter there writes to this.
 
Actually all the Cons' - and I include Brison as a stealth Con - behavior was atrocious. At one point after hearing about murders and election violations, the Chair actually said "Ok, maybe now we can get back to [talking about] trade."
Another : "Hey there's been election fraud in Canada, maybe we shouldn't trade with Canada."
Carleen Pickard of Council of Canadians really nailed this : "If the committee can show one Canadian example of men being rounded up and taken out to the country and told their families would be killed if they didn't vote the way they were told to, then she would accept a comparison to Canadian elections. Dead silence ... the seconds tick by ... the Chair adjourns the committee.

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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2010, 07:55:41 AM »
Libs and Cons vote down adding worker's rights language to C-2.
Brison says "violently opposed" to amending bill to add human rights language.
Keddy's motion to close further debate on bill passes with Lib and Con support.
Libs including Rae explained away their support for bill passing second reading by saying it would get fixed in committee.
Well that was just bs obviously.
No interest in what is happening here with Canada's corporate imperialism in Colombia. Even Kady who does a rundown today on 10 committees does not mention this one.
I am beyond disgusted we don't give a shit about this. There are many crap agreements Canada has signed that we only found out how bad they were afterwards. Well this time we knew ahead of time but we don't give a shit. Nothing in media.

 

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