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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2010, 03:42:58 PM »
Should ecocide be deemed a crime against peace?

Popovski compares ecocide to genocide or (WAR) and I'm not sure if that is a good comparison. The alternatives he provides sound like they have no teeth and will take years to get them. I'm thinking of our own east fisheries and ocean oil drilling if they also become conflicted with an ecological disaster.

After reading No more fish in 40 years we need to act Quickly.
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« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2010, 06:44:50 PM »
If the oil gets into the Gulf Stream Current and heads north, say goodbye to the snow crab fishery - if the oil ever gets into the Gulf of St. Lawrence. I think BP should be seized and its assets sold at auction to pay for this disaster.

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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2010, 06:49:14 PM »
Yes -- I'm no oceanographer, but the Gulf Stream seems a real worry to me -- not only the whole of the eastern seaboard would be at risk, but eventually the west coasts of Ireland and G Britain. That current is the UK's lifeline.

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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2010, 06:59:16 PM »
The diversion of the Gulf Stream last winter from the UK and Europe to Greenland gave us a nice mild winter here. I'd love to see that again - every winter from now on, actually. Sorry England, you've been hogging it too long. :mooning:

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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2010, 07:19:20 PM »
The Gulf Stream is changing. There are model results that suggest that the circulation could even be brought to a complete stop by a rapid increase in the CO2 content of the atmosphere. The future evolution of the Gulf Stream System is still an open question.       I have so much more to learn about it, the dif between global warming and climate change will be pretty explanatory by the time it happens, if it happens.
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« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2010, 07:26:15 PM »
I apologise for being so flippant in my reply above. Couldn't resist. :embarassed:

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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2010, 08:40:35 AM »
"Fucking oil booming school 101" at Mind of Dan

Brilliant video. And you'll actually learn something.

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« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2010, 11:42:26 AM »
Inspector General’s Inquiry Faults Regulators
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Federal regulators responsible for oversight of drilling in the Gulf of Mexico allowed industry officials several years ago to fill in their own inspection reports in pencil — and then turned them over to the regulators, who traced over them in pen before submitting the reports to the agency, according to an inspector general’s report to be released this week.

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« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2010, 11:55:40 AM »
Quote from: skdadl;182798
"Fucking oil booming school 101" at Mind of Dan

Brilliant video. And you'll actually learn something.

OMG. That's incredible. I just tweeted it.
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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2010, 01:29:33 PM »
Hope has met reality

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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2010, 02:17:40 PM »
Love it.
It is when we all play safe that we create a world of utmost insecurity. It is when we all play safe that fatality will lead us to our doom. It is in the "dark shade of courage" alone that the spell can be broken.
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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2010, 02:39:10 PM »
The more things change, the more they remain the same. Remember the 1953 coup against Iranian PM Mohammad Mosaddegh organized by the CIA at the request of the British? The source of so much political trouble ever since?

Remember why that happened? Because Mosaddegh nationalized the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, now BP. I had forgotten that, was just reminded by a post at EW's place.

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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2010, 04:28:24 PM »
The CIA coup to depose Mosaddegh for BP.
Whoa, yes! Had forgotten that.
 
You know what's scary? Reading sciencey guys discussing whether Corexit is three or rather four times more toxic than the oil it is being used to disperse. And
 
McClatchy :
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Company executives and top drill hands on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig argued for hours about how to proceed before a BP official made the decision to remove heavy drilling fluid from the well and replace it with lighter weight seawater that was unable to prevent gas from surging to the surface and exploding.


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« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2010, 06:42:32 PM »
Barriers, islands, and dredging: updates
 
 
http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/go/doc/2931/569207/

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« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2010, 06:51:28 PM »
It's almost incomprehensibly bad, isn't it? I'm reading Merkin commentary on and off, can't contribute anything, don't want to watch, the figures are so huge, the death to nature also so huge, so long-lasting.

 

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