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Re: Tunisian govt violent attacks against protesters
« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2011, 11:22:17 AM »
@#25 Jan - says - Police in Alexandria Egypt open fire on protesters. Live ammunition. Our correspondant has been hit with a bullet in his head.

FB says correction - rubber bullet

Live tweets @ Guardian/a war zone


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« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2011, 12:40:29 PM »
Thread dedicated to Egypt and #Jan25 started here

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« Reply #77 on: January 25, 2011, 08:17:11 PM »
Founding statement of the 14th of January Front

Sounds interesting. http://www.europe-solidaire.org/spip.php?article19924

I don't know exactly what they mean by "freedom of belief" but it sounds like an agreement to oppose both government repression of say, women wearing hijab and religious persecution of secular people. Very interesting.
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« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2011, 02:39:56 PM »
Various news sources are reporting that the current Tunisian gov't has issued an arrest warrant for Belhassen Trabelsi and asked Cdn officials to to freeze his assets. 
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Tunisian Justice Minister Lazhar Karoui Chebbi said the government is seeking Belhassen Trabelsi, who arrived in Montreal with his family last week, along with ousted president Zine El Abidine Ben Ali and his wife, Leïla Trabelsi, Mr. Trabelsi’s sister. Dozens of other family members have also been charged with financial crimes. ... Belhassen Trabelsi was the senior business figure in the clan and has permanent residency in Canada. While Canadian officials are investigating whether he has met all the criteria to retain his residency, they privately admit they may have little power to expel him.
From here.

So, extradition then.

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Re: Tunisian govt violent attacks against protesters
« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2011, 02:44:40 PM »
Yeah, this is gonna be interesting, okay maybe not interesting, in fact not even useful to add as more attacks against the neo-cons.

Harper/Obama/ incredibly short-sighted. Let's face it, they all live in alternate realities until it becomes dangerous to do so.
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« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2011, 04:17:19 PM »
According to the CBC:  
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   CBC News has learned the federal government has revoked the Canadian residency held by the ousted Tunisian president's brother-in-law, Belhassen Trabelsi.
 

AM I being naive to wonder how this winner got Canadian residency in the first place?* I know that under Chretien it became a lot easier to get into/reside or attain citizenship in Canada if you had a lot of money - something right up Harper's alley (and not something the notable humanitarian philosophers from the Liberal Party have made a priority to change).
 
But here we are exhibiting a good old Canadian value, hypocrisy. I do not think that even the reality deprived Minister Kenny would pretend that we did not know the man/clan/family have despoiled a whole country. Despoiled it, not through any ideological manipulations .... capitalist/socialist/monarchist - but out of pure unadulterated shinning greed. 
 
* Of course I am feigning naivety ... I know the ruling class of this country has more in common with these slugs than not. I also know the ruling class will viciously slash it's own members for any perceived benefit they may receive.
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« Reply #81 on: January 27, 2011, 04:32:16 PM »
AM I being naive to wonder how this winner got Canadian residency in the first place?* I know that under Chretien it became a lot easier to get into/reside or attain citizenship in Canada if you had a lot of money - something right up Harper's alley (and not something the notable humanitarian philosophers from the Liberal Party have made a priority to change).
 
* Of course I am feigning naivety ... I know the ruling class of this country has more in common with these slugs than not. I also know the ruling class will viciously slash it's own members for any perceived benefit they may receive.

Back in the early 90s, I worked at a Canadian consulate, and even to my untrained eyes and brain it seemed pretty obvious that you had a free pass to Boardwalk if you had tonnes of money. You didn't have to speak English or French, you didn't need any relatives in Canada, you didn't even need to want to live here, but if you had money (to invest in....whaddever) getting permanent residence was pretty easy. That was back when Mulroney was in charge...though I think things just got worse as time passed, because the first purpose of increased trade was always to set the money free.

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« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2011, 04:50:34 PM »
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You didn't have to speak English or French, you didn't need any relatives in Canada, you didn't even need to want to live here, but if you had money (to invest in....whaddever) getting permanent residence was pretty easy. That was back when Mulroney was in charge...though I think things just got worse as time passed, because the first purpose of increased trade was always to set the money free.

Of course it was Mulroney .... I shudda known.  :annoyed  He extended Canadian citizenship far beyond any one with a British accent or useful Americans. Thanks, bn.
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« Reply #83 on: January 29, 2011, 09:39:28 AM »
Here is the story in La Presse (Montréal, not Tunis) of a tranquil bourgeois family whose lives were destroyed by the Ben Ali régime.

Hamadi Kammoun was the director of the main post office in Tunis, and lived a quiet life with his wife and their three children. He made the fatal mistake of buying a valuable tuna-fishing boat with his savings, for his retirement. Unfortunately, Mourad Trabelsi, one of President Ben Ali's many brothers-in-law, had his eyes on the boat and had this innocent and apolitical man arrested and tortured, threatened to have his wife and daughter raped, and tried to kill the Kammouns by deliberate traffic accidents.

Now the family are in exil in Laval (large Mtl suburb on island north of Mtl island). Hammadi and Leila thought they'd be retired by now, but Hammadi is working as a security guard and Leila as an aide in a seniors' residence. Unlike the Trabelsi clan, the Kammoun family had a terrible time securing refugee status here.

http://tinyurl.com/Kammoun

Edited to add: Found an article in English about the Kammoun family, with some other details, in the Globe and Mail:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/the-long-shadow-of-tunisias-corrupt-regime/article1885883/
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« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2011, 02:33:32 PM »
It was reported on Twitter - about 1/3 of people I follow are francophones - that one of Belhassen Trabelsi's thugs was arrested(?) certainly detained upon landing at Mtl international airport yesterday, by officials.
 
Also tweeted by @DimaKhatib, this YouTube animation about Ben Ali.  Patience, it has English s-titles.  Very amusing.

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Re: Tunisian govt violent attacks against protesters
« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2011, 02:43:18 PM »
I think we are stuck with Belhassen Trabelsi and his immediate family for a while - still remember the long trial of the Rwandan génocidaire who had called for the Tutsis to be killed and thrown in the river, as vermin. :annoyed

Glad if even one of those sordid thugs has any problems whatsoever.

Poor Ben Ali must be bored to death in Saudi. Not many swinging nightspots there - you can carry on behind closed doors if you have money and influence, but no open-air discos with a Mediterranean breeze and all kinds of thugs and Mafiosi around to wheel and deal with. 8) 8) 8)
" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
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« Reply #86 on: January 31, 2011, 01:43:07 PM »
A short personal account from a Canadian living and working in Tunisia.

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Re: Tunisian govt violent attacks against protesters
« Reply #87 on: February 18, 2011, 10:59:07 PM »
There are reports around that Ben Ali has died, after going into a coma a couple of days ago. We'll know by morning, I suspect.

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Re: Tunisian govt violent attacks against protesters
« Reply #88 on: April 16, 2011, 06:54:23 AM »
Some good news from Tunisia - gender parity for the Constituent Assembly elections, with slates alternating between men and women. Spanish-speaking friends sent me the best article I've found so far, in El País:  http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/Tunez/opta/paridad/primeras/elecciones/elpepuint/20110413elpepiint_7/Tes  Túnez opta por la paridad en sus primeras elecciones
Hombres y mujeres se alternarán en las listas a la Asamblea Constituyente

I haven't found any articles of such quality in English yet (I've checked the Guardian).

Here is a blogpost: http://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/tunisian-elections-a-great-victory-parity-between-women-and-men/

I'm going to check Le Monde and Libération...

Edited to add: here is a post from Le Monde's "Printemps arabe" blog - http://printempsarabe.blog.lemonde.fr/2011/04/14/la-parite-en-tunisie-une-avancee-historique-qui-fait-debat/

I'm working at a conference today so I can't search any more, but you should find more without too much  difficulty.
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" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
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« Reply #89 on: April 17, 2011, 08:50:44 AM »
Still very little in major English-language media on gender parity in the Tunisian Constituent Assembly elections. I thought this commentary from a Turkish paper was interesting:

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnistDetail_getNewsById.action?newsId=241236

Of course in another part of Africa, Rwandan women have achieved gender parity, but in the wake of a great historical tragedy. :crying
" Eure \'Ordnung\' ist auf Sand gebaut. Die Revolution wird sich morgen schon \'rasselnd wieder in die Höhe richten\' und zu eurem Schrecken mit Posaunenklang verkünden: \'Ich war, ich bin, ich werde sein!\' "
Rosa Luxemburg

 

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