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Proposed pipelines and opposition
« on: May 14, 2011, 02:21:10 PM »
Although there is a lot about pipelines in our tar sands thread, I think it best to start a thread specifically about the proposed pipelines, which face a lot of opposition in their own separate ways.
 
http://breadnroses.ca/community/index.php/topic,5603.0.html
 
 
There is the proposed Keystone XL pipeline by TransCanada (based in Calgary), which would run from Alberta through several US states and is opposed by people living in those states:  http://www.transcanada.com/keystone.html
 
The Keystone Pipeline is already built and running, but Keystone XL would be an expanded version and is being opposed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline
 
Recent news articles about it
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/12/idUS418509825620110512
 
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9N6HLNG0.htm
 
 
Then there is the Northern Gateway pipeline that Enbridge (also Calgary-based) wants to build across BC to a superport at Kitimat where the oil can be transported by tanker. Harper referred to it after the election and presumably wants to push it through.
 
There are many First Nations in the way though, and here Jim Prentice and others explain why they might prevent it from being built. [ETA correction:] Prentice was a Law Commissioner on the Indian Claims Commission before going into politics and knows what he is talking about:
 
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...“One of the great public policy failures in Canadian history was the failure to actually execute land claim treaties and, in a sense, titlement, in British Columbia over of course of the last 150 years,” Mr. Prentice, now a vice-chairman at Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce, said.
 
“And so the reality on the ground is that the constitutional and legal position of the first nations is very strong.”...

http://www.ctv.ca/generic/generated/static/business/article2021928.html
 
However, it occurs to me that the SCC might be mostly appointed by Harper by the time the cases got to them, or maybe by later PMs because these court cases can go on for a decade or more.
 
More about Enbridge:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enbridge
 
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5hu7t17VzjYB9hd1BhXrYV393zMXw?docId=6816992
 
http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/article/20110514/NEWS01/105140305/Enbridge-replace-part-pipeline-involved-Kalamazoo-River-oil-spill?odyssey=nav%7Chead
 
The Mound of Sound has written several posts about the resistance, including this most recent one:
 
http://the-mound-of-sound.blogspot.com/2011/05/harper-time-to-push-back.html
 
 
 
« Last Edit: May 14, 2011, 02:44:36 PM by Holly Stick »
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2011, 02:35:41 PM »
More about Enbridge's Northern Gateway pipeline:
 
A few days ago the federal energy regulator announced public hearings, which made Stelmach very happy about selling oil and gas to Asia:
 
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Northern+Gateway+Pipeline+will+federal+review/4760588/story.html?cid=megadrop_story
 
Northern Gateway website:  http://www.northerngateway.ca/
 
The pro-pipeline Northern Gateway Alliance, which I am guessing is an astroturf group:  http://northerngatewayalliance.ca/
 
Opposition:
 
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-and-life/life/greenpage/121794539.html
 
And wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enbridge_Northern_Gateway_Pipelines
 
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2011, 02:57:58 PM »

The pro-pipeline Northern Gateway Alliance, which I am guessing is an astroturf group:  http://northerngatewayalliance.ca/
 
Astroturf, you say? The chair of the alliance, Colin Kinsley, is a former mayor of Prince George and a failed candidate for the Conservative nomination in Prince George-Peace River, losing to Bob Zimmer. Prior to that? I'm so glad you asked.
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Before he began in public office, Kinsley worked for 30 years in the natural gas industry.

And here's blogger Laila Yule, quoting from an article in The Prince George Citizen that doesn't seem to be answering its link:
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The recently-formed Northern Gateway Alliance which is advocating support for Enbridge’s $4.5 billion pipeline through northern B.C. is the brainchild of Enbridge and is being bankrolled by the company, The Citizen has learned.
Pretty much the definition of astroturf.

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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2011, 08:08:03 PM »
Green groups suing Hilary Clinton for information about Paul Elliott, lobbyist for TransCanada and Keystone XL:
 
http://thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/Environment/2011/05/18/green-Clinton-pipeline/
 
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 08:00:53 PM »
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2011, 12:49:45 PM »
Alison blogs about the North American-Made Security Act, which is about getting the Keystone XL pipeline approved, and making money for the Koch brothers:
 
http://creekside1.blogspot.com/2011/05/north-american-made-energy-security-act.html
 
 
ETA: I didn't realise unitil I saw Alison's map that the current pipeline runs through Saskatchewan and Manitoba, but the XL one would run across a corner of Saskatchewan.
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2011, 05:00:09 PM »
Peter Foster about the pipelines from a pro-dirty oil perspective:
 
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/05/24/peter-foster-big-green-blocks-oil-sands/
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2011, 07:44:59 PM »
I tweeted that yesterday. What a filthy dishonest piece. ''BIG GREEN?''  :mad2
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2011, 09:40:58 PM »
It's an argument I've seen deniers use, including some I suspect were paid with our tax dollars to lie to us. They try to pretend the big environment organizations are spending lots more money, like Green Goliath menacing the ethical oil Davids. It is not plausible.
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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2011, 12:59:48 AM »
This is normal for the paper that publishes "Junk Science Week", and I think it's Peter Foster and Terrence Corcoran's MO.

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Re: Proposed pipelines and opposition
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2011, 01:10:35 AM »
I guess "Big Foundation" is the new phrase supposed to countermand "big oil".
 
Dear Peter Foster : Capitalizing something doesn't magically conjure it into existence.
 
Plus he bases his column on quotes from Vivian Krause, a North Vancouver mom of no fixed funding, who has strived mightily over the years to protect the mining, oil and gas, forestry, and fishfarming industries from being preyed upon by the Big Money behind First Nations conservationists and solar energy proponents. ::)

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