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Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on June 22, 2006, 07:06:13 PM
I'm sure there is a thread I could have added this to, but what the heck.

What I'm doing right now is holding a two week old baby. Nope nothing you should know. I"m just babysitting.  :lol:

Apparently he was fussy, sleeping away now. Hey and I remember how to hold a baby and type two handed!

So what exciting things are you up to?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 22, 2006, 07:21:14 PM
I am just about to test my new printer!

Well, my new printer has already been tested by The Genius, but I am about to take the plunge and print ... something ... all by myself! Wish me luck.
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Post by: vickyinottawa on June 22, 2006, 07:23:06 PM
I just finished dinner, am about to clean up and head to a campaign coffee party.  Right now I am drinking some Perrier and enjoying the after-effects of a spicy Pad Thai.  Yum!
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Post by: chcmd on June 22, 2006, 07:25:26 PM
Oh, new baby!  Nothing feels like holding a new baby - soooooooo good, all kinds of joy vibes coming off the little one, warming the heart of whoever is holding it.

Lovely beautiful feeling, holding a new baby.

(we need a joy emoticon)
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Post by: Debra on June 22, 2006, 07:33:20 PM
Will there be pics of the new addition skdadl?
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Post by: suzette on June 22, 2006, 07:38:33 PM
I'm moving house next weekend, and will then be residing with my first ever dishwasher!  Eco-guilt be damned, I'm excited!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on June 22, 2006, 07:42:48 PM
* turns green with dishwasher envy* :mrgreen:
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Post by: suzette on June 22, 2006, 07:46:38 PM
Green.... unlike my dishes, which will be sparkling clean!!!  It also has a table that seats 10, so in combination with the dishwasher, it's the perfect socialising house.  I'm so happy.  So very, very, very, very, very happy.  Excuse me, I have to pop off and do a little dance now.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on June 22, 2006, 07:53:30 PM
Somehow I feel I am being mocked...hrrmmph
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on June 22, 2006, 08:14:09 PM
Quote from: suzette
... my first ever dishwasher!  Eco-guilt be damned, I'm excited!
At the moment I am too lazy to check this out, but I believe that some dishwashers are more water and energy-efficient than doing dishes by hand.  Perhaps it is mere rationalization on my part ...?  :oops:  When I purchased my house, it had a dishwasher with variable settings.  I accumulate dishes in it and use it about once a week, at the least energy-consuming level.
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Post by: suzette on June 22, 2006, 09:01:18 PM
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Somehow I feel I am being mocked...hrrmmph
 No, no... it's not about you, Debra!   It's about my dishwasher. ;)

With regards to the water efficiency, I really do need to check that out.  We're on severe water restrictions at the moment, with our dams sitting at only 30% capacity.  It's pretty bad.  With that in mind, though, I think I'd shower just once a week if it meant I didn't have to don the rubber dish gloves again.
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Post by: Alix on June 23, 2006, 08:00:04 AM
I'm about to take my mother out for breakfast on her birthday. She and my Dad are leaving to visit my grandmother later in the day, so we'll have a proper party sometime next week.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 23, 2006, 08:41:58 AM
I'm glad to read all those virtuous stats about the dishwasher, and I also do that with the actual dishes and glasses and such -- wait till the machine is full, which can certainly take a week. Sometimes I have so many plates sitting for so long in the dishwasher that it might as well be another cupboard.  

But for my favourite pots and pans I can't wait that long, and besides, I don't think the wee machine does them very well, so I am left with the tough stuff. If I actually bother to eat, of course.

What I'm doing right now: I'm reading the Grope and Flail, hoping for news of fresh disasters that I can blog, or at least hoping to be irritated enough that I will be able to rip into the accounts and the filing, which simply have to be done last week.
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Post by: Boom Boom on June 23, 2006, 09:12:17 AM
Interesting to read that dishwashers can be energy efficient. When I used one, I always let them dry simply by opening the door, as I love that steam heat in the winter.

How about clothes dryers? I'm wondering - instead of making all that heat escape outside during the hot dryer phase, why not redirect the exhaust pipe inside the house? Is there a filter attachment one can buy for the dryer exhaust pipe? I think it's an incredible waste of heat to let all that hot air dissipate outside the house. When I lived up north, that's what I did - redirect the exhaust pipe inside the house, even without a filter. So I got a bit of lint in the air - so what. At least I got all that delicious hot air.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 23, 2006, 09:15:52 AM
Boom Boom, don't quote me, but I was told once by a neighbour who is a scientist that the problem with clothes dryers is ozone. That's why we need to vent them, apparently. I was thinking, like you, that it was a fuss and a waste, but he said that venting ozone into the house is dangerous.
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Post by: Debra on June 23, 2006, 09:28:44 AM
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Venting to the outside is the only correct way to exhaust a dryer, says Isaacson. Products that allow electric dryers to vent inside a house pump out gallons of excess moisture, which can lead to sweating windows, peeling paint, mold growth, and wood decay.


I also found a link that said that venting a gas dryer into the house results in dangerous carbon monoxcide levels.

Now if they could find a way for the cold air not to be able to come in through the vent!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on June 23, 2006, 09:39:14 AM
I cleared all my cookies last night. So I've been hunting thru my password address book all the morning long. Then I went to see the geese. Fantastic childcare they have. One adult for each gosling, which have now got all their distinctive marks and have picked up on their moms nasty rushing you behaviour.

And best of all, I have a brand new WSIB file to go through page by page. I can't wait. It is as thick or thicker than a Toronto telephone book, yes thicker I just looked at it.  May sound nutty, but I cannot wait to read every word. I'm meeting with the lawyer soon, and I want to know it, own it, before I pass it over to him. I'm salivating. Victory is going to be so sweet.

Then I'm going to repot some big tomato plants.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on June 23, 2006, 10:00:48 AM
Quote from: skdadl
Boom Boom, don't quote me, but I was told once by a neighbour who is a scientist that the problem with clothes dryers is ozone. That's why we need to vent them, apparently. I was thinking, like you, that it was a fuss and a waste, but he said that venting ozone into the house is dangerous.


What ozone? It's an electric dryer, so the exhaust is just hot air and moisture, right?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on June 23, 2006, 10:09:10 AM
Quote from: Debra
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Venting to the outside is the only correct way to exhaust a dryer, says Isaacson. Products that allow electric dryers to vent inside a house pump out gallons of excess moisture, which can lead to sweating windows, peeling paint, mold growth, and wood decay.


Well, maybe if the electric dryer was used quite often. I've  used it for at the most four hours in a week. Nobody on the coast uses natural gas dryers because there's no natural gas. When I vented my dryer indoors (in northern Ontario) I noticed nothing but additional heating. Didn't notice any additional moisture in the house whatsoever - it was a really dry house to begin with. If I can find the proper lint (and other) filter for the dryer exhaust pipe, I'm re-routing it inside. The new place is really dry and also difficult to heat - every little bit helps, is my opinion. Unless I see something more definitive on why I shouldn't.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 23, 2006, 10:21:33 AM
The printer is really fast! Like, I mean, zippety-doo-dah!

It makes its labouring noises afterwards, not before.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on June 23, 2006, 10:24:24 AM
you can get filters for inside venting. And yes if you aren't doing family sized loads there likely isn't that big a problem.

I can't find one online but I know their out there.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on June 23, 2006, 10:26:47 AM
I've just been reading material from window and door manufacturers about humidity in the house. Aparently there only is a problem with excessive humidty when modern airtight windows and doors are used. Because here on the coast we burn wood as our main heating source, it's highly dangerous for any house to be airtight. There has to be air sources otherwise the carbon monoxide from the burning wood would kill. At least one window in the house has to be open at least a half inch when a fire is going. All the houses on the coast I've seen have substantial ventilation, and this is one reason why humidity inside the house is never a problem here. I would only reroute the dryer exhaust inside the house if I can find the proper filter, which I haven't yet. I'm going to continue reading up on this. :)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on June 23, 2006, 10:28:20 AM
Quote from: Debra
you can get filters for inside venting. And yes if you aren't doing family sized loads there likely isn't that big a problem.

I can't find one online but I know their out there.


I know the filters are available because I saw one in a catalogue probably five years ago. Haven't seen one since. Wish I brought one back then!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on June 23, 2006, 10:46:19 AM
there are a couple on this page but you have to send to either Britian or the States (http://search.ebay.ca/search/search.dll?sofocus=so&sbrftog=1&fcl=4&fnu=1&from=R10&satitle=dryer+vent&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&fgtp=&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D3&sadis=2000&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&ft=1&ftrt=1&ftrv=13&saprclo=&saprchi=&so=Show+Items)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 23, 2006, 11:04:40 AM
I just talked to a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses who want to deliver me.

Would you like me delivered?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on June 23, 2006, 11:06:49 AM
Sure I'll put on the coffee! Can you bring the biscuits?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on June 23, 2006, 11:07:42 AM
Tell 'em you'll consider it, if they deliver you cigarettes.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 23, 2006, 11:09:03 AM
I can! Yesterday, in a panic because The Genius was coming to hook up the printer and I had No Nibblies prepared, I bought (forgive me) some commercial cookies that are really quite nice. I think they're called Coffee Breaks or something like that -- spicey, with raisins. Probably full of trans fats, but I've got lots!
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Post by: Nikita on June 23, 2006, 11:13:01 AM
:shock:

Sweet christ.  I discovered this morning that the dryer in my new house isn't connected at all to the vent pipe.  I found this out because I got up early and put a large load of towels into the dryer and when I went to retrieve them the basement was a sweaty, smelly, humid awful jungle-type thing.  That's when I started looking for a problem and discovered the white vent pipe laying useless behind the machine.  I've been living like this for two months!  Who knows how much ozone and carbon monoxide I've been soaking up.  

This is the kind of thing that sets my anxiety off.
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Post by: Debra on June 23, 2006, 11:18:53 AM
get rid of the white thingy right away. They trap the lint and are awful fire hazards.

Straight duct style piping(best) or slightly bendable aluminium is the better choice.
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Post by: Boom Boom on June 23, 2006, 11:30:25 AM
Speaking of dryer fire hazards, here is a warning I posted above mine:

Warning:
Clean the lint filter and never leave home while your dryer is running.

I'm extremely paranoid about fire here.  We've seen some really awful fires on the coast - no organized fire department anywhere on the coast as far as I know.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on June 23, 2006, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: skdadl
I just talked to a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses who want to deliver me.

Would you like me delivered?


If it's by air mail, I'll meet you at the airport. When?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 23, 2006, 11:34:57 AM
I'm tempted, Boom Boom.

But who would look after the kitties?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on June 23, 2006, 12:06:29 PM
Maybe your Jehovah's Witness visitors would care for them? Surely they wouldn't try to indoctrinate them while you're away...? :shock:
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Post by: anne cameron on June 23, 2006, 12:55:45 PM
Wouldn't work...cats have absolutely no interest in being one of the 144,000 who will reign in heaven with Christ.  One of 144,000?  Not bloody likely.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Timebandit on June 23, 2006, 01:07:18 PM
I've been venting my electric dryer into the house during the winters for a couple of years now.  Of course, it's a draughty old house, but we've suffered no ill effects.  

I don't currently have a dishwasher.  I had a portable one, because my kitchen is old and renovated, but the reno was laid out in a way that makes a built-in impossible to install.  I also have cupboards constructed of something remarkably like cardboard, but that's a complaint for another day.  The kitchen needs only one thing:  A sledgehammer.

Anyway, the dishwasher.  It started leaving my dishes filmy.  Two repairmen later, nobody could find anything wrong with it.  Disassembled the bloody thing and put it back together, still made things filmy -- and I even tried Jet dry and thorough rinsing before washing.  I don't use a lot of detergent, so it wasn't residue.  Finally, it occurred to me that I was practically washing the dishes by hand before putting them in the machine so they could come out scummy, so I'd be better off just washing them and having the fricking behemoth of a portable dishwasher out of my way.  So we got rid of it.

Not having a dishwasher is one of the few sources of discord between the blond guy and I.  I don't think it really saves time -- that is, if one's got a low-end crappy dishwasher and has to rinse the dishes anyway.  Most companies don't even make portables anymore, except for the not so good brands, and they cost as much or slightly more than the state-of-the-art energy and water efficient ones.  So I'm holding out for a really good dishwasher when we get to reno-ing to fix the incompetent reno.

And I'm thinking skylight... :D

Oh, yeah, and I want this stove:  http://www.heartlandapp.com/Classic/Cla ... ng_Center/ (http://www.heartlandapp.com/Classic/Classic_Cooking_Center/)

Hey, I can dream, can't I?  I can't decide if I like the blue or the red better...

Right now I am rewriting a treatment for a project before I go away next week.  Apparently I interested the broadcaster, but frightened the insurance agents (and the lawyers.  Bloody lawyers.).  I have to find the middle ground.  And I'm doing my laundry at the same time.  Don't worry, the dryer's vented outside....   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on June 23, 2006, 02:02:45 PM
Quote from: anne cameron
Wouldn't work...cats have absolutely no interest in being one of the 144,000 who will reign in heaven with Christ.  One of 144,000?  Not bloody likely.


But, Anne, don't those 144,000 need cat companions? If there's no cats or dogs in heaven, then I don't wanna go!
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Post by: on June 23, 2006, 11:21:54 PM
i am on bnr. seriloulsy, you gus agals should wrtie shorter postsl . it is hard to read such long posts hwen drunk. and just so you know, i havne't smoked any pot tonight.
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Post by: skdadl on June 24, 2006, 05:41:10 AM
That is one groovy stove, Timebandit.  *drool*

More stove porn: the Aga. (http://www.aga-ranges.com/aga/history.asp)

One of Thorfinn's cousins and her husband run a sizable farm in Scotland, live in a great old rambling house, and have something like that in their vast  kitchen, although theirs would be quite old, really from another time. I don't think there is any other heat in the kitchen, either, which would be fine for the winter. In the summer, on really hot days (and they do get a few), I think you'd never want that monster on.
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Post by: skdadl on June 24, 2006, 05:43:30 AM
PS: Hmmn. That link is not automatically going to the one I want to go to.

When you get to the site, click on "History," and then keep clicking until you find the "Aga Four Oven with Companion." That's the hard core.
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Post by: lagatta on June 24, 2006, 06:20:31 AM
Oh, we needed an Aga saga.  :D

I have a wee old enamel stove (alas electric; I'd much prefer gas). Trying to figure out a NON-TOXIC way of cleaning the oven and the chrome around the burners before I go, as a friend will be staying here. She's the type who'd clean it herself, and I don't want her having to do that.

The spray oven-cleaning stuff makes me gag, even with the windows open.
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Post by: skdadl on June 24, 2006, 06:42:53 AM
My stove, which is the first gas stove I've had in, gosh -- thirty years? -- has a self-cleaning function, but I haven't had the courage to try it yet. It requires locking the oven and then turning it up to some unbelievably high heat, and then leaving it like that for four hours or something.   :shock:

I wouldn't do that unless I had a strong and alert helper on the spot the whole time, ready to evacuate me and the kitties should anything go wrong. I love cookin' with gas, but I'm a little nervous of it too.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on June 24, 2006, 09:22:03 AM
Quote from: skdadl
My stove ... has a self-cleaning function ... It requires locking the oven and then turning it up to some unbelievably high heat, and then leaving it like that for four hours or something.   :shock:
Thread drift ... Can that be construed to be an appliance of mass destruction?  

Hello there Mr Fella from the Department of Justice.  Come here often?  What's that you say - skdadl ... nom de guerre?  the cats are valuable trained operatives?  Maybe that microchip in your brain needs to be reprogrammed, fella.
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Post by: fern hill on June 24, 2006, 10:16:06 AM
I am preparing to host, well, co-host, a dinner party for seven tomorrow. We're doing this at sweetie's studio because there's more room and we start with a high forgiveness level. The amenities here are primitive.

Guest list: my visiting pal, his son and a friend of son visiting from New York, sweetie's mum, and an old pal of ours who has fed us so many fantastic meals we will never catch up, and us.

Yesterday I counted plates, glasses, and cutlery. I'm going to be washing dishes (no dishwasher) between courses.

Yikes, I just realized that chairs are going to be a problem. Refrigerator space ditto.

One of the things I love most about my sweetie is his adaptability. He sees things not as problems but as challenges. He'll be all over the chair problem and it will not cross his mind to borrow, rent, or buy a solution.

Menu: BBQ steak (you should see sweetie's contraption for that), various salads, and something with strawberries for dessert. Lots wine and beer -- again for the forgiveness factor.
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Post by: Debra on June 24, 2006, 10:42:22 AM
Beer, wine, strawberries...who could ask for more!

I have tackled the living and dining rooms and am now giving serious consideration to the kitchen and front closet.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 24, 2006, 11:55:07 AM
I am taking a break from the hyperenergetic big brother. He is moving stuff around (storing some stuff here while his basement gets dug out). But of course, as he goes, he is casting his eagle eye over all the stuff I haven't done, which shames me into doing some of those things now, which will be a good thing in the long run but that's not the point.

Gawd, the man is a perpetual-motion machine. He loves working. I think I was adopted.
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Post by: Debra on June 24, 2006, 11:56:43 AM
Update on Debra's Day of Domesticity  :lol:

Kitchen, dishes done, cupboards washed, floor swept, recycling out to shed, onward to laundry/closet/entrance combo.  :arrow:
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Post by: lagatta on June 24, 2006, 11:58:11 AM
I did some laundry this morning (at the laundromat round the corner, no washing machine). Looking for a smallish, second-hand one in good shape. Also washed two woollen blankets by hand, and am about to tackle a third. I'm trying to get everything clean for the friend who'll be staying here while I'm away.

Thinking of riding my bicycle, but also must avoid the Grand prix arseholes (conspicuous consumption and look-at-me hunks and babes). There is nothing much interesting happening for La Fête nationale - there used to be a great, alternative and very multiethnic celebration on Saint-Viateur in Mile-End, but it has been banned.

Still looking for an environmentally-friendly way to clean the oven...
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Post by: fern hill on June 24, 2006, 11:59:04 AM
Whatever drugs you're on, Debra, send some to skdadl.
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Post by: skdadl on June 24, 2006, 12:00:12 PM
Like yeah, eh? If we were the same age, I'd say Debra and I were switched at birth.   :wink:
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Post by: skdadl on June 24, 2006, 12:07:21 PM
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There is nothing much interesting happening for La Fête nationale - there used to be a great, alternative and very multiethnic celebration on Saint-Viateur in Mile-End, but it has been banned.


OMG!!!

La Fête nationale!

That means it's the anniversary of Bannockburn (http://www.braveheart.co.uk/macbrave/history/bruce/banseq.htm) too! How could I have forgotten?
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Post by: lagatta on June 24, 2006, 12:14:08 PM
Indeed!  :toast

fern, lots of people in Europe host suppers and have wee fridges. You can do it!
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Post by: brebis noire on June 24, 2006, 12:51:42 PM
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Anyway, the dishwasher.  It started leaving my dishes filmy.  Two repairmen later, nobody could find anything wrong with it.  Disassembled the bloody thing and put it back together, still made things filmy -- and I even tried Jet dry and thorough rinsing before washing.  I don't use a lot of detergent, so it wasn't residue.  Finally, it occurred to me that I was practically washing the dishes by hand before putting them in the machine so they could come out scummy, so I'd be better off just washing them and having the fricking behemoth of a portable dishwasher out of my way.  So we got rid of it.


I am having both computer and dishwasher problems. My irritation is building to the point where I am unable to work, which I should be doing right now while everybody else is out fishing and hopefully later celebrating la Fête Nationale while I stew in my juice.

I think I could conceivably do without a dishwasher (am currently going through the exact same dance as Timebandit, but my dw is built-in so there's no advantage to physically getting rid of it) but I fear I would be spending the only few minutes of so-called free time in my days washing dishes. Dishwashing was a huge source of discord from about day 1 in our marriage, so we've had a dw for years. I'm learning not to see the streaks, and will scrub out any residue. At least, the problem is not getting worse.
(suzette, I hope you're reading all of this... :wink:) I'm supposed to be using a combination of good-quality dishwasher soap, rinse agent and a  cup of vinegar once a week, but so far it's not helping much. Also took it apart and removed vast amounts of crud.


In the days before the dw, at the very moment when the dishes were ready for washing, water was hot, soap was bubbly...it was suddenly time for the guy to spend some high-quality time in the bathroom. I swear, it was timed every single evening for that very moment. By the time he came out, the dishes were stacked and practially dry.  :x
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Post by: Debra on June 24, 2006, 03:00:00 PM
further update;



Thinking fondly of day in the 70's when friend and I did some beans, place fairly sparkled!
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Post by: fern hill on June 24, 2006, 03:03:23 PM
Gawd, Debra, give us a fekkin' break. You forgot to add to your list: gloating on B+R to all my imaginary slacker pals.
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Post by: Debra on June 24, 2006, 03:04:49 PM
hee... actually I just want a record cause 5 min after the kids coming back in the house it will all need done again. :cry:
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Post by: skdadl on June 24, 2006, 03:10:33 PM
Hell, Debra: I haven't done that much housework in a year!   :shock:

I did get the upside-down tomato device mostly set up, mainly because the brother shamed me into it. I have to go back and give it some nice water, firm up the soil around the herbs, and then tomorrow I have to get some extra herbs -- there's more room than I thought up top. I don't know whether the tomatos will flourish, but we will have a basil and parsley garden, anyway. The chives will live there for a bit too, but since they're perennials, I really want to put them in the real earth. The spot they need is, unfortunately, overrun with weeds at the moment.

In a day or so, I shall take a photo of the device.

All in good time, as one of my friends who is smarter than I so often says. All in good time.  :)
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Post by: Debra on June 24, 2006, 03:17:12 PM
it is a devise of torture meant to keep us from things of importance.  :rant2
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Post by: Debra on June 24, 2006, 03:29:56 PM
I think it might be time to call a spayed a spayed.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on June 24, 2006, 03:33:46 PM
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... After all, I am looking after his cats ... and one is a sneak pisser. She pees EVERYWHERE. I can't break her of this. ...
Can I ask if she's a short-haired brown tabby with black stripes?  Because ALL of the cats that fit this description that I've lived with (and reported to me by others with similar experiences) have done the secret pee thing.  Maybe it's a trait?
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Post by: brebis noire on June 24, 2006, 03:47:36 PM
I have two sneak pissers, but one was definitively cured with la grande opération several years ago.

The other is a 12-year-old male Siamese cross (neutered) who has lately chosen the recycling box for sneak peeing. In his case, it is pure protest - he objects to the presence of a third cat we adopted back in January. Every time I've given in to his protests in the past, he's stopped peeing, but this time the cat is staying, so every other possible sneaky place (closets, etc.) have to be kept closed.  :roll:
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Post by: deBeauxOs on June 24, 2006, 04:07:26 PM
Gosh Diane, who would notice if you snuck down and scarfed a hotdog and some cake?  Just saying ...   :wink:
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Post by: skdadl on June 24, 2006, 05:07:25 PM
Go for the hot dogs! We're cheering for you.  (Do you have some hot pepper rings in your fridge? I'll bet the puny li'l six-yr-olds don't have hot pepper rings. Steal their stuff and then accessorize at home.)

I finished planting the device. Well: so far. There is room for some more herbs, perhaps something a li'l more decorative, and it took three entire bags of soil and it is still not full! Quel monster.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on June 24, 2006, 05:11:06 PM
Edible flowers!! Add a nasturtium or two.  How about some sweet-faced pansies?  There must be a flat at least that needs to be rescued, at your local Blawblaws, for greatly reduced price.
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Post by: skdadl on June 24, 2006, 05:16:30 PM
The nasties. But of course. I even have some nastie seeds.  :)  

I was saving them for something else, but it is getting a little late, yes/no? I love the nasties. They are pretty outside, and then they are tasty, the flowers and the leaves both. What a good plant.

There are photos of Monet's place at Giverny in high summer, one of the walks approaching the house, with masses and masses of nasties growing out from the verges into the walk ... och, heaven.

I could do that, if ever I got activated before the end of June.   :oops:
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Post by: Boom Boom on June 24, 2006, 05:49:49 PM
House cleaning - :yuk    I'm in the middle of packing and moving stuff down the road, and everytime I get a room done, there's dirt in every corner and dust bunnies everywhere. I've been in the apartment four years, and never bothered to clean behind the bed or the dressers or the bureaus or the tables.  :oops:
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Post by: fern hill on June 24, 2006, 06:09:22 PM
All right, already. I just did the dishes. Cleaned up the so-called kitchen counters. Moved a bunch of stuff. Re-arranged the fridge. Found things -- many of them identifiable. Others   :yuk

We'll pull this dinner party thing off, even though the maddening friend has not yet called back to confirm whether he's bringing just himself, himself and son, or himself, son, and friend. So what I can get going on is limited. For example, potato salad is on the menu. Potatoes for seven including two 18-year-olds vs. potatoes for five adults -- what do you think -- 2:1 ratio?

Another question -- booze for 18 year-olds. They're not quite legal. Me, I don't mind if they have a beer or two or a glass of wine or two. But that's about all I'd countenance 'under my roof' as our parents used to say. Nobody is driving, so that's not the issue. What do you guys think?
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Post by: lagatta on June 24, 2006, 06:24:14 PM
As long as nobody is driving, boating, in a pool etc, let them drink. I could certainly drink at 15-16. I hate North America.

(I'm not saying that to promote drunken stupidity, but god, I hate North American prudery)... 18-year-olds are adults.
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Post by: fern hill on June 24, 2006, 06:31:20 PM
I agree, lagatta. But one kid's mother is very strict about inscrutable things. I don't know what she thinks of drinking. But she has very STRONG opinions in general. The other kid is a complete stranger.

Ah hell, you're right. I'll let them figure it out for themselves.
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Post by: lagatta on June 24, 2006, 06:41:07 PM
Good on ya.

He's not a kid; he's a young adult. Fuck Ontario's discriminatory law.

No adult should have the right to make an arse out of him/herself, vomit on people's property, start fights either. Want to make clear that I'm not defending antisocial behaviour.
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Post by: Debra on June 24, 2006, 07:08:19 PM
Now that's the kind of cleaning I could get into!
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Post by: deBeauxOs on June 24, 2006, 07:09:47 PM
My grandmother grew nasturtiums ... come to think of it, that and climbing wild cucumber were the only things could grow in the tiny garden behind her century-old Lower Town rowhouse.

Then nasties went out of style, in the sixties and seventies, replaced by geraniums.  But they are once more fashionable, with all sorts of varieties available.  And the colours!!!  Did you know that you can also pickle the young seed pod, and use it as capers?

If you soak the nasties seeds overnight, it helps to hasten the germination process.   :wink:
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Post by: Toedancer on June 24, 2006, 07:10:34 PM
I have a roasted chicken in the oven with yukon spuds and I stuffed it.
I went trolling.
I have been to the river and back. My dawg scared the bejeesus out of 3 (6? year olds) who huddled together and screamed their fucking guts out. Mom started slapping them on their arms to quiet them. My dawg then went and checked out the Hibachi but smelled feces in the area and rolled in it with utter abandon. Then we both swammed (is that a word?) in the river, startling the city picnicers.

Then I spoke moonily to my tomato plants. My neighbour came over and asked how I was doing. I said I had no money, no movies, (the chicken is from Sally Anne) and he promptly brought me a Tall Boy, which I am drinking.

The 18 year olds? No driving of anything. They are such fun, I love them, they should be allowed to play with supervision.

Oh yeah, my nasturtiums are glorious.

ETA: Does anyone have a date? Who are younger than say 55? But hell if you've got a date and your older than 55, tell.
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Post by: skdadl on June 25, 2006, 08:27:38 AM
A date? What is this thing you speak of, "a date"?

It sparks vague memories, somewhere back in the mists of time ...  

Soaking the nasties. What a good idea. I shall do that now, and then plant this evening, by the light of the moon. And then I'll dance with the dolly with the hole in her stocking ... Oops! Wrong thread.   :wink:

Quote
Dance With A Dolly (With A Hole In Her Stocking)
Tony Pastor
Words and music by Terry Shand, Jimmy Eaton and Mickey Leader.

Adapted from the 1844 minstrel song by Cool White, "Lubly Fan;" also known
as "Buffalo Gals."
Featured in the 1945 film "On Stage Everybody."

As I was walkin' down the street,
Down the street, down the street,
I met somebody who was mighty sweet,
Mighty fair to see.
I asked her would she like to have a talk,
Have a talk, make some talk,
All the fellows standin' on the walk
Wishin' they were me:
Mama, Mama let me dress up tonight,
Dress up tonight, dress up tonight,
I've got a secret, gonna 'fess up tonight
Gonna dance by the light of the moon.
Gonna dance with a dolly with a hole in her stockin'
While our knees keep aknockin' and our toes keep arockin'
Dance with a dolly with a hole in her stockin'
Dance by the light of the moon.

Mama, Mama put the cat out tonight.
Cat out tonight, cat out tonigh,.
Worked all day I'm gonna scat out tonight
And I won't be home until dawn.
Gaonna dace with a dolly with a hole in her stockin'
While our knees keep a knockin' and our toes keep a rockin'
Dance with a dolly with a hole in her stockin'
Dance by the light of the moon.
Gonna dance by the light of the moon,
Dance by the light of the moon,
By the light of the moon.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on June 25, 2006, 09:40:41 AM
Actually, I did have a "date" this morning, with a former lover/housemate who came by as arranged, to pick up furniture that was being stored in my house until he could move it to his new dwelling.  It was nice to see him but I realized that I am content at the moment, being on my own.  

A few years ago, I chose singlehood and celibacy to "detoxify" myself from the ravages of an emotionally abusive relationship that I had just ended.  It struck me at the time that I had not been truly single since I turned 16.  From that time, I had been dating, involved, living with, married or entangled.  I discovered that I enjoyed the pleasure of my own company and being only accountable to myself for how I spent my time.

Then I explored the possibilities of internet dating which, by the way, deserves its own thread.  I flirted, had a couple of flings and met a delightful person who shared my life for a couple of years - I knew that it would not be a lasting relationship, given the age difference.  

At this very moment, I am savouring my second cup of coffee and considering what colour I will paint the back room which has been liberated from its storage function.
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Post by: fern hill on June 25, 2006, 10:58:11 AM
I've cleaned the bathroom. Made hummus. Cooked eggs and potatoes for potato salad.

Next: guacamole to make (mash two fat lawyers, remember that site?), asparagus to steam for cold asparagus and sesame vinaigrette.

Oh, and call maddening friend to see how many people he's bringing.

Sweetie has work to do, a drawing for tomorrow, so, of course, he's washing windows.
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Post by: lagatta on June 25, 2006, 12:22:22 PM
I've been cooking too - a supper and meeting with the catsitters' committee. Made two house keys yesterday (the unpatriotic hardware store was open. Checked both. Know Mario and Charles have keys, suspect Kat does, know Cristina doesn't...

Fortunately the supper is at Kat's place, as she has a bbq and can grill pieces of dead cow for Cristina, who is Argentinean. Yesterday I made that grilled pepper salad that takes forever to make (roasting red bell peppers, removing grilled skin)... and today a spanish omelette - takes forever to cook the potatoes - actually i made two small ones so they'd be easier to flip. Must see if more salad greens are needed.

I've been washing clothes and household things, including woollen blankets, by hand.

On another note, I did the deliberate singlehood/celibacy thing too after my disastrous relationship with a refugee/torture victim. Of course when I no longer felt any need for such healing singlehood, I also suspected I was far too old to meet anyone else again. I have met someone nice, but alas he is far away, and though things are developing and deepening, it is rather a slow process. However at least I can paint and draw again, as of course the loss of libido also meant a death of creativity.
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Post by: skdadl on June 25, 2006, 03:18:22 PM
The device has fallen over.

I have to go feed the kitties now. Then I shall sit down and cry for a while. Then I shall go out and reconstruct the device.

There is no smiley to convey my present state of mind.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on June 25, 2006, 03:39:11 PM
Quote from: skdadl
The device has fallen over.
 How could the device do that to you?  Did it have some fit of pique?  :evil:  

How to placate the device ....  :idea:  

It is jealous of the attention that you have been lavishing on the printing devices.  You must do a ritual sacrifice of the old printer to regain favour from the planting device.  

ahhh, devices.  Can't live with them, can't live without them.   :roll:
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Post by: skdadl on June 25, 2006, 04:11:25 PM
Quote
You must do a ritual sacrifice of the old printer to regain favour from the planting device.


Now, there's a thought. I've been trying to figure out what to do with the old printer, and the device obviously needs a prop.

Och, you guys: I need courage. I can't talk m'self into going out there to salvage the li'l tomatos and parsleys and basils and chives and lavenders.

I can't bear the thought, but I gotta do it, yes? Urge me on. Urge me.

I wish the brother would turn up again suddenly. This is probably karma: it's all happening because I complained about him yesterday. Damn. He's been doing this to me for sixty years.
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Post by: fern hill on June 25, 2006, 04:16:16 PM
P minus 50 minutes and counting. (P, for the acronym-challenged, stands for Party.)

Everything is good to go, except for the actual BBQing part and the Caesar salad part -- the performance elements.

Well, and sweetie has yet to construct the BBQ device. More devices! More performance!

Last minute glitches (knock wood) overcome. Emergency call to guest asking her to bring three steak knives.

Maddening friend has been in contact.

All is A-OK.

Eeeee. Sweetie just mentioned another potential glitch. Maddening friend and the other old pal know of our plan for a secret marriage. Sweetie's mum doesn't. Sweetie's mum would be all over it like a dirty shirt.

Other old pal is a well-behaved person. I'd be really surprised if she let that cat out the bag.

Maddening friend, however. . . .
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Post by: Debra on June 25, 2006, 04:17:10 PM
Give the wee plants some CPR skdadl. Then pour yourself a glass of wine and say this to shall pass. Repeat as necessary.  :wink:

Can  you find a pic of said device online or upload one? Maybe the bunch of us could figure out how to stablize it.

Or you could like.. just plant everything in the ground and recycle device for brothers christmas present...
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Post by: skdadl on June 25, 2006, 04:20:13 PM
This (http://www.hammacher.com/publish/67403.asp?promo=outdoorliving) is the device.

It falls over. Don't get one.  

Waaaaah.
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Post by: Debra on June 25, 2006, 04:24:56 PM
Is there anything weighting the bottom?
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Post by: fern hill on June 25, 2006, 04:25:27 PM
This one comes from Lee Valley. http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=1&p=51544&cat=2,51603

It could fall down but not over.
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Post by: Debra on June 25, 2006, 04:30:50 PM
Fern what I have told you about posting Lee Valley porn?!!! :rant  :lol:
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Post by: skdadl on June 25, 2006, 04:32:01 PM
Quote from: Debra
Is there anything weighting the bottom?


Water. The bottom is very solid when filled. You can do sand, too, but I thought water would be easier to cope with in the fall.

I still haven't gone out. I'm chewing on it.
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Post by: Debra on June 25, 2006, 04:44:11 PM
Did it topple or collapse? I'm trying to determine where the weakness is.
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Post by: Toedancer on June 25, 2006, 04:45:57 PM
Who the hell came up with that device? Altho the Lee Valley one looks cool.

Why are you wanting to grow your tomatoes upside down? Lack of space?
I hope your tomatoes are in planters somewhere, pls. don't tell if you haven't planted any yet.

Also what's great about just planting your tomats in the ground is that tomato-pillars get  huge, ya know the big fat green stripey things. I collect them and when I get a good pile, lay them on the road and watch cars drive over them.
They fairly pop and explode, drivers think they've blown a tire!

It's great.  :lol: I know I shouldn't be getting such a charge out of that still, not at 54. But I can't help it.
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Post by: skdadl on June 25, 2006, 04:57:59 PM
Well, Debra, one thing I threw into the mix, which might be the destabilizing factor:

I have these little wooden squares with wheels on -- you know, for setting heavy potted plants on?

I was thinking that the device would want to be rotated for all the tomato plants to catch the sun evenly, so I set the base (filled with water) on one of those wee squares (not as big as the base).

That was stupid, wasn't it.

From what I can see from the window, the whole thing just toppled -- it did not crumple -- ie, it does not look like the WTC, or a controlled demolition. It fell from the bottom.

If the tomatos are broken, I shall have to start all over again tomorrow, because the toms have to go in first, before the rest of the soil does -- and there is a ton of soil in there.
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Post by: fern hill on June 25, 2006, 05:04:09 PM
OK, skdadl is in tomato crisis. But what about meeeee? Now I've got the incredible shrinking dinner party. Sweetie's mum just cancelled. Her friend who is doing poorly fell this morning and they spent all day at the hospital. Friend is OK, but mum doesn't want to leave her alone.

I have three quarts of strawberries and don't ask how much asparagus.
Argh.
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Post by: skdadl on June 25, 2006, 05:08:20 PM
Think positive, fern hill. Well, if you were me, you'd be jumping up and down with glee at this point. They're not coming! Oh, frabjous day!    :wink:

There are lots of things you can do with extra strawberries. Purée, eg. Now, what you're going to do with all that purée, I'm not quite sure, but I expect that others will have ideas.

Be grateful for small mercies, fern hill. They're not coming!
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Post by: Debra on June 25, 2006, 05:11:16 PM
Ah yes wooden things would have been your Trojan Horse. ( realized how bad that joke was as I typed but will leave it regardless.)

Claim it to be a two person job, have big brother come over, sip wine while he fixes and replants. Hide all evidence of Trojan Horse first.  :wink:
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Post by: Debra on June 25, 2006, 05:14:07 PM
Strawberry jam, strawberries bit of sugar, bring to boil, keep on a high heat strirring often for about 5 minutes pour into boil or jars let sit till cool and store in fridge. Also spectacular over ice cream.

alternatively buy rubarb make strawberry rubarb pie mmmmmm  :eat
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Post by: skdadl on June 26, 2006, 08:25:16 AM
Strawberries! I ate several yesterday while I was out resurrecting the device, fresh off the ground (strawberries and device both).

Funny. We could never get strawberries to thrive at the old place. Here, they are almost invasive, a total groundcover in one area.

Anyway, the device is back up and firmly on the cement, no wheels underneath, so it is not going to get turned much this year, which may mean that the plants at the back will be sun starved. We'll see. We'll treat this year as an experiment.

Amazingly, the toms survived the fall pretty well, although stuffing them back into their holes for the third or fourth time was probably not great for them. As I began to scoop the earth back up in handfuls, slowly I came to each of the herb plants, and even they were doing not too badly. The parsley probably fared worst, I guess because it is crispy, so about half the stalks broke when soil landed on top. But the basils looked ok, if a little wilty and dirty, and the chives were fine. A huge lavender plant, which I hadn't put in the device because I wasn't sure whether I might not be able to put it straight into the garden soon, was just a hair's breadth out of range as the device fell, so it's ok too.

Anyway, when I looked down on them this a.m. from kitchen window (they're right below), they had all perked up overnight, so that's good too. Still, I wasn't able to retrieve much more than half the soil, and there's room for some other neat stuff up there, so ... the project will continue for a few days. Schlepping dirt -- that was one thing I didn't think I'd have to do again.

Gawd -- if those toms actually grow, it will be a miracle.
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Post by: skdadl on June 26, 2006, 08:37:30 AM
PS: fern hill, we are all waiting with bated breath to hear how the dinner went. Did anyone show? Have you got lots of tasty leftovers? A hangover? Spill.
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Post by: fern hill on June 26, 2006, 10:06:09 AM
At least sweetie's mum called to cancel. The teenagers just did not appear. We waited, then went ahead and did the BBQ. In the in-and-out, and way before I had enough excuse to, I tripped UP the steps, broke a wine glass, did not break the other, and skinned both knees. (I have fallen up stairs way more often than down. Because I'm paying less attention?)

Everyone said the food was great. I did not make a Caesar salad; I made everyone eat the asparagus vinaigrette. Tons of strawberries left over.

Nipped home this morning, expecting a package of work. Arrived to find the world's oldest courier dithering on my doorstep. And now I have more than 500 pages of Canadian Democracy to index.

Hangover not too bad, but my knees hurt.
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Post by: skdadl on June 26, 2006, 10:29:39 AM
Well, I call that spilling.   :wink:

Seriously, I have fallen up stairs too. I guess that's the thing: one is paying less attention. I am sorry to hear about your knees. Knees is precious.
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Post by: anne cameron on June 26, 2006, 11:13:54 PM
I had a spate of falling up stairs.  I listened to the optician and sprang for the bifocals.  Well, christ!  Not so much falling down stairs, but up?  I got that I'd put stuff up on the porch until I had enough of it collected to make it worthwhile to go up the stairs on my airse, then take whatever-all into the house from the porch.  Finally I fell up the stairs to my bedroom and I hit my nose.  My nose is so small my face seems (and is) dished!  NOT to hit the nose!  Jesus, no, not the nose.  Put aside the bifocals (which I was calling the bi fuck alls) and just used the old reading glasses.  No more spills up.  Now I have THREE pair of glasses.  The new reading glasses which try to pull my left eye out of my skull and cast it like a bad spell on the top of the desk so I spent $300 for a desk ornament, the old reading glasses which are fine for the computer but not for reading books (is that a c or an o, and is this an a or an e and is this word cat or ..it must be cat because there's fuckall that is spelled oet...) and my distance lenses which I'm supposed to wear while driving.  But if I do I can't read the dash.  New optician wanted me to get either trifocals or "gradated" lenses and I'm sure thinks I'm a barmy old bat because I said no, I'd had all the seasickness I could enjoy thank you.  Mind you, the real DISTANCE is as clear as a bell (how clear is a fekkin bell?)  I can clearly see individual trees on a mountain side at least 12 miles from where I sit.  Optician says that is impossible.  HELL, I can see a red painted artificial spar with a white painted top in the logging clearcut across the inlet. (it has bird shit smeared on it.  nah , it doesn't, i'm funnin' ya)  It's mid distance is getting a bit fuzzy.

Made angel food cake then picked fresh strum bum berries and turned angel food into a strumbumberry shortcake with real whipped cream and THAT is what I had for supper.  With some fresh rhubarb sauce.  And an anti nausea pill.  Where goes the "u" supposed to be in nausea?  Only one?  I thought two...

yep, grandma's on a sugar high!  heh heh heh.  Little neighbour Bella the Beautiful came over to ask if I had anything for bug bites.  She is so blonde her hair has gone white in the sun and the bugs are turning her into a smorgasbord.  Grandma had something, the itch went away and I got the most grateful and loving hug.  (grandma took vaseline and mixed baking soda in it, three cheers for bicarbonate, great anti-itch.)

Nobody in Tahsis sells Avon so I am out of Skin So Soft, it's the best bug repellent going.  I cant' use any of the commercial stuff, I come out in welts and blisters...

If you're reading this in the hope something intelligent might surface...GOTCHA!

I have flowers on my tommytoes plants.  I've had several meals of fresh rhubarb chard.  Only ONE bean plant has sprouted, it better be prolific, I love fresh beans.  I look at the flowers on the tommytoes and I can already taste those sourdough, butter, tommytoe and mayonnaise sammiches.

Why was I sick?  I had "Cameron's hurlitis".  stress.  I've done FOUR first drafts of novels and one feature film script over the winter.  Plus the artificial hip.  Plus Alex and Ag have both had surgery so I was trying to pitch in and help out with the grrrrrls and laundry.  And my golden boy was diagnosed schizophrenic.  So I decided to puke.  Every half hour for two weeks.  Hey, if you wanna lose weight, I have a sure fire method.  It is South Beach or North Beach or...it's the Tahsis Hurlitis diet...just puke non stop day and night.  

So my daughter has read me the riot act, and I have humbly agreed we'll do it her way from now on... and Maxeran is controlling the nausea and the overproduction of bile and ... and I am again eating but I think coffee and I are on the outs for the next while.
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Post by: Holly Stick on June 26, 2006, 11:40:12 PM
Gosh anne, that sounds dire.  Maybe you need a quiet rest in a different environment, like the polluted city or something. :wink:  I hope you can find a way to relax; lie down and read a trashy romance or watch some brainless TV or something.
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Post by: brebis noire on June 27, 2006, 06:28:50 AM
Wow anne, that's an amazing amount of work and life going on over there. Sorry to hear about the puking.  :(  The closest I've come recently was the other day when I opened the garbage can to put something in and discovered that somebody had put a couple of raw fish in there several days ago. Took me a full five minutes to recover; the neighbour must've wondered why I was staggering and retching all over the driveway.

The somebody should've fed the cats in the barn instead... :roll:
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Post by: skdadl on June 27, 2006, 07:55:58 AM
Goodness, brebis noire! Where is your garbage can? Do you mean that a stranger came along and made that contribution?

At our old place, on recycling mornings, because we were at an intersection, I guess, we would often get walkers and cyclists dropping ... stuff ... into our boxes as they strolled past on their way to work. I didn't mind so much the pop tins or water bottles (if they put them in the right boxes), but it amazed me what else people would be munching at 7 a.m. on the way to work, and how blithely they would screw up my carefully arranged systems. We had very strict collectors over there, and if they saw something organic on the top of our blue boxes, they would refuse to take the box, which would mean we had to double-store bottles and tins for another two weeks. *grr*
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Post by: brebis noire on June 27, 2006, 07:58:40 AM
No, actually the somebody is a household member who does not follow Garbage 101 instructions.  :x
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Post by: skdadl on June 27, 2006, 08:01:01 AM
PS: I wrote this yesterday afternoon just as BnR went down for a while for upgrading. File under further adventures with the device:  

Just ran up to the corner store for some c*****s.  As I was leaving, I noticed that Grace had a few herbs at cut-rate prices (they haven't had herbs at all that I've noticed before, so I assume they bought the end of someone else's stock), including two gorgeous semi-grown basils, so I scooped those up and went back in to pay. Grace just waved me away -- "You take them; you take them." And she meant it -- she would not take my money.

I wrote about Grace a bit on babble a few months back. She wrote some notes for me in Korean last winter so that I could communicate with the ladies who sat at the table next to ours at Thorfinn's place. She is The Boss of the store; her husband and her son work for her, and you'd better believe that -- and so had they! I also hung around one night when she signalled me that she was nervous about being left alone with a group of guys wandering about the store aimlessly; after they left, she told me about all the times she, husband, and son had been held up. (It's a tough spot for that, right on the corner of two fast through-streets.) Since then, we hug every time I go in.

And I got free basil.   :D

I just checked the device. It is still standing. The battered herbs up top look ok, although by now they need water (the device is going to need daily watering -- in spite of all that soil, it dries out fast in the sun). So in a couple of hours, I will transplant the new basils and water all. Still need decoration ...
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Post by: skdadl on June 27, 2006, 08:01:39 AM
Quote from: brebis noire
No, actually the somebody is a household member who does not follow Garbage 101 instructions.  :x


Uh oh.   :lol:
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Post by: Debra on June 27, 2006, 08:06:38 AM
Glad to hear device and mini enviroment have recovered. Free basil *whinging voice* that's not fair, where's my free basil. pout :(   :D
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Post by: skdadl on June 27, 2006, 08:19:37 AM
Y'know, I've heard Grace explain what a tiny margin they make on everything -- she'll hold up a chocolate bar, eg, and tell me what it means to them if someone pockets one -- so I seriously did try to pay.

I perceive that the larger garden centres are now just getting rid of all the stuff we were supposed to plant by Victoria Day. That's always a kind of sad stage to me -- reminds me that spring has gone, almost before we were able to enjoy it.
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Post by: fern hill on June 27, 2006, 08:32:59 AM
What am I doing? I'm trying to get some work done, indexing this enormous book on Canadian politics. But sheesh, events do conspire to take up my time reading other amazing stuff. And me on only one-and-a-half cups of coffee. More coffeeeeeee.
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Post by: Alix on June 27, 2006, 08:38:15 AM
I am steeling myself to start writing an essay that I have been researching for a month, but still don't feel ready to write.

But it's due on Friday, so it must be started today.
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Post by: Debra on June 27, 2006, 08:39:31 AM
Quote from: skdadl
Y'know, I've heard Grace explain what a tiny margin they make on everything -- she'll hold up a chocolate bar, eg, and tell me what it means to them if someone pockets one -- so I seriously did try to pay.

I perceive that the larger garden centres are now just getting rid of all the stuff we were supposed to plant by Victoria Day. That's always a kind of sad stage to me -- reminds me that spring has gone, almost before we were able to enjoy it.
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It is an odd disconnect isn't it? Things go out before it is even time to plant and then only the saddest few are left when the season truly begins. And suddenly even with summer only just new it seems we turn our attentions to the coming fall.

Almost a metaphor for life in that we so often rush through that which is our summer only to find we are facing our fall.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on June 27, 2006, 08:45:33 AM
Quote from: fern hill
What am I doing? I'm trying to get some work done, indexing this enormous book on Canadian politics. But sheesh, events do conspire to take up my time reading other amazing stuff. And me on only one-and-a-half cups of coffee. More coffeeeeeee.


Fern after one and a half coffees  :coffee

Fern after 3 coffees  :coffee2
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Alix on June 27, 2006, 12:09:58 PM
At the risk of alienating everyone, I would just like to state that I have finished 14 pages of my essay by noon. One more page to go this afternoon, and then I am taking the rest of the freaking afternoon off!

I rock.

(Just wait until tomorrow morning though, when you'll get more "I don't wanna work on my essay" whining.)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on June 27, 2006, 12:15:33 PM
:clap:  Go Alix!
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Post by: skdadl on June 27, 2006, 12:20:48 PM
Oh, well, I think I've seen enough. Fourteen pages by noon? Sorry, Alix, but we are just going to have to ...

... swoon in admiration! Give us the recipe for that!

Is this a gripping topic, or are you highly motivated for some other reason?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on June 27, 2006, 12:22:29 PM
Midday report: I'm up to page 74 (yay!) of 499 pages (boo!). This afternoon I have a business appointment and I am profoundly grateful that it's cool enough to wear trousers. I do not want to explain why a 53-year-old woman has the knees of a 10-year-old tomboy. It's funny, looking at these knees really brings back memories. I think I had skinned knees almost continuously from about age 5 to 12-13, when I got too cool to fling myself around.

And for the record, I was not drunk when I fell. I certainly GOT drunk afterwards.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 27, 2006, 12:38:37 PM
As long as you're not going to bleed through the knees of your trousers, fern hill, that sounds like a solution.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Nikita on June 27, 2006, 01:06:43 PM
What am I doing?  I'm trying my damndest (damdest? darndest?) to finish two acknowledgement letters.  Our office receives so many piddly magazines and publications and as the stummer student it is my lucky job to write those acknowledgements.  

Today's two letters will kill me, I'm sure of it.  The publications are both so hideously bland that all I can think of is, "This magazine will look great heaped onto the stack of other boring, piddly magazines that no one reads on our coffee table...blah blah blah...thank you again."  Tempting, but somehow inappropriate.

I've also got to finish a briefing note.  Frig.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on June 27, 2006, 01:13:08 PM
Organised the spices this morning.

Had a nap.

About to take the boys to a municipal pool because it's raining.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Gigi on June 27, 2006, 01:15:24 PM
Trying to work with a raging headache (I don't get migraines, so the rain is coincidental).
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on June 27, 2006, 01:15:37 PM
Quote from: Nikita
What am I doing?  I'm trying my damndest (damdest? darndest?) to finish two acknowledgement letters.  Our office receives so many piddly magazines and publications and as the stummer student it is my lucky job to write those acknowledgements.  

Today's two letters will kill me, I'm sure of it.  The publications are both so hideously bland that all I can think of is, "This magazine will look great heaped onto the stack of other boring, piddly magazines that no one reads on our coffee table...blah blah blah...thank you again."  Tempting, but somehow inappropriate.

I've also got to finish a briefing note.  Frig.


 :rotfl:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 27, 2006, 01:23:58 PM
Quote from: Stephen Gordon
Organised the spices this morning.

Had a nap.



 :lol:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: HAHL on June 27, 2006, 01:27:33 PM
Avoiding the temptation to Bread and Roses...while attempting to work at what I am currently being paid to do.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Alix on June 27, 2006, 01:34:06 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Oh, well, I think I've seen enough. Fourteen pages by noon? Sorry, Alix, but we are just going to have to ...

... swoon in admiration! Give us the recipe for that!

Is this a gripping topic, or are you highly motivated for some other reason?


It's a fairly interesting topic - I'm writing about the House of Industry founded in Kingston in 1847, and trying to relate that to other discourses on poorhouses, gender, etc.

But mostly the speed is due to the knowledge that it's due on Friday and sheer terror is keeping me at the computer. But now I'm done my 15 pages for the day. Hurray!

I work best in the morning, and finally realized, oh, last week, that I'd been doing the stuff I love doing in the morning when I have the most energy, and the stuff I didn't really want to do (essay writing) in the afternoons. I finally twigged that I might get more done if I forced myself to do the things I procrastinate on first, and then do the things I enjoy doing when my energy level is a bit lower.

Now, this wasn't entirely writing for scratch, although it was close. I have an almost 30 page very, very rough draft that I'm working from, but mostly I'm just taking quotes from that paper and writing the rest on the fly. It's going much better than I expected! Except that I'm still worried that I don't have enough secondary sources. There just isn't that much on the history of poorhouses and workhouses. Asylums, yes. Prisons, yes. But not so much on poorhouses.

But my primary source stuff is all incredibly interesting. In addition to minutes, correspondence, and a visitor's book, I have a year or so of the entry book to the House of Industry transcribed on my computer, and each entry is it's own little story. Who entered in winter, who entered with sick children, how many of those children died, those who were expelled for "bad conduct," and so many other things.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: chcmd on June 27, 2006, 01:35:08 PM
What am I doing?  Well, posting here of course, and watching the clock - tick tick tick.  Today is my last day of work for the summer!!!!!  I am on leave (without pay :( ) until September.  Poor but happy :)  :)

I am patiently waiting rather than deeking out early 'cause my aborigional smokes connection is supposed to drop by here before I leave for the day.  I am so damn antsy - - holding myself back from calling her to make sure she is still coming by . . .
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Nikita on June 27, 2006, 04:12:34 PM
Woot woot!  I've finished the ack. letters.  I feel so free, freeeee!

As well, the secretaries and I just finished jumping on a massive sheet of bubble wrap.  These weren't the wimpy little bubbles, these were industrial packing bubbles and made the most satisfying popping noise ever.  It felt fabulous.

:D
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Post by: brebis noire on June 29, 2006, 08:23:45 AM
OK, I need a happy dance emoticon.

I just solved the first one of my series of 'puter problems. Yoo-ha!
I just bought a new used printer, an HP Laser Jet III - for 125$ (plus $25 for a cartridge that is supposed to last me at least a year...). When I first connected the printer to the computer, everything appeared to be working - except nothing was printing. So of course I panicked and tried to connect my old (fancy-pants) printer again to print some urgent docs, but I seem to have lost the software and anyways I doubt I have enough ink left. Besides, the cost of the ink itself was sending me into red ink - hence, the new (used) printer.

Anyways, it turned out that the problem was the (also used, but untested) connector wire. This would not have been such a big problem if I didn't live an hour away from my computer guy, which means that everything takes me about a day longer than it should to get fixed.

I got the new wire yesterday and connected it - and it prints!!

Onwards and upwards!
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Post by: vickyinottawa on June 29, 2006, 09:43:02 AM
Hooray!

This is my second-last day of work before a month's vacation.  Then i'm back for a week to speak at a confererence and wrap things up, and then I'm off on pregnancy leave.  If I win the election, I'll be gone for at least 4 years.

So I am trying to clean up the 6 years of debris that is my office, not to mention deal with the electronic files.  Something tells me I may be doing odds and sods of filing and organizing beyond Friday but that's OK.  I am supposed to be working on a document as well but accidentally erased my draft in a moment of pregnesia last week.   :oops:  And now it's so hard to concentrate!  Ah well, if I get an outline done by tomorrow I'll be in good shape to finish it up in August.

I am really looking forward to having some time off to devote to the campaign and to the house.  Let the nesting begin!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 29, 2006, 10:52:28 AM
Yay for the smokers with a connection and the bubble-wrap dancers (och, but I luuuv doing that!) and those who are daring enough to connect their own printers and can actually get them to print!

And yay for vicky-mama! Ok, vicky: if you can file, even with pregnesia (?!?), I can screw up my courage and make self do some filing too. It's all in the filing. Good filing is the secret to the good life. I'm convinced of that. There has to be some explanation.   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: brebis noire on June 29, 2006, 11:36:44 AM
Quote
It's all in the filing. Good filing is the secret to the good life. I'm convinced of that. There has to be some explanation.   :wink:


Y'know, that is a pretty accurate assessment of life.  


And: go, vicky! I remember the pregnesia quite well, though I'm wondering if you will find that it pales in comparison to lactesia, especially if there's a heavy colic component that I certainly wouldn't wish on anyone. :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Alix on June 30, 2006, 03:36:41 PM
I would just like to announce that I am done that essay and will be handing it in as soon as the printer finishes spitting it out.

I'm not convinced it's great, but I think it's okay.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on June 30, 2006, 03:39:02 PM
Yay, Alix. And aren't you glad that your printer is working? (skdadl introduces a touch of evil into the general rejoicing.) It so lightens my days to be pretty sure that mine is. For now. Pretty much.   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on July 01, 2006, 01:10:38 PM
Oooo, just got back from the dock, where I saw 4 strapping men throwing about crates full of big fireworks. All the preps. These are County workers, so I thought I'd have a little fun and asked if they had their Explosives Regulatory Division License. They didn't exactly answer that. Two of them had that glazed whacky tobaccy look in their eyes, the other two I believe are just garden variety pyromaniac types. One of them has to stay there all day to Guard the Stuff.

It was a beautiful sunshiney day, perfect for picnics and barbies (which I have all ready) and now it is all cloud. Gawd, I am obsessing about the weather, when really it is just right. EC says rain not coming til LATE tonight.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 01, 2006, 01:50:48 PM
Four strapping men, you say?  Ooh!   :wink:

I just finished slicing a bunch of English cucumbers, and now I need a rest. I don't have a pro mandoline, just one of those domesticated imitations of one -- it does the work and it's safer, but it is a bit frustrating. It sticks. Urgh. But I think the salad is done now, safely wilting in the fridge (wilt is good).

We have been warned about the weather all the way up to now too, but the sky is still very high, hazy but not threatening ... knock on wood.
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Post by: fern hill on July 01, 2006, 02:46:53 PM
Yay! I said I'd get 100 pages done today and I just finished. Only 90 pages to go. Since Portugal obviously won, life won't be worth living in this nabe, so I'll toddle over to sweetie's where the beer is.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on July 01, 2006, 09:23:23 PM
The mellow end of a dinner party.  I slow-BBQ'ed/hickory smoked a whole salmon stuffed with fresh basil and oregano leaves from my garden (the herbs, not the fish).  So yummy.  Added salad + roasted veggies.  For desert, local strawberries with gourmet dark chocolate sauce from Guelph and vanilla ice cream.  Ecstasy.

Now listening to Marianne Faithfull's "Broken English".  Gotta get back to mah guests, ya'know.  Cuz ah'm the hostess.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on July 01, 2006, 09:34:23 PM
Que c'est bon...

Packing, unpacking, cleaning, going through papers. I'm too tired to do anything else tonight and my knees hurt (from on the ground cleaning). Will turn in soon, and get up early tomorrow.

A catsitter is staying here, so it has to be reasonably neat and tidy. Ha!
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Post by: deBeauxOs on July 02, 2006, 12:08:44 AM
C'était vraiment délicieux, exquis même.  Je devrai, d'ici la fin de l'été, trouver une autre occasion pour préparer un saumon entier de cette façon.  Et chose étonnante, bien que les non-végétariens en aient accepté un deuxième morceau, j'ai suffisamment de poisson qui me reste pour quelques repas froids.

Beau et bon voyage, lagatta.  Travaille bien et amuse-toi, fort, fort, fort!  :wink:

Quote from: skdadl
Four strapping men, you say?  Ooh!

I just read this.  Now would you be wanting to watch the strapping or would you be wanting to do it .... ?  :oops:   C'mon, skdadl - set your inner dominatrix free!  More fun than aerobics, I hear.   :twisted:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 02, 2006, 08:36:28 AM
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j'ai suffisamment de poisson qui me reste pour quelques repas froids.


This is the greatest virtue of the dinner party, of being the host of a dinner party. Leftovers!   :D

Unfortunately, I was not the host yesterday, just a sous-chef, so all I've got left over is all these lousy extra cucumbers!   :wink:

Lovely Bones, I don't think I have an inner dominatrix. I have searched for her, and she's not there. I have an inner Edith, for sure (well, I have post-nasal drip, anyway), and a hot-tempered brat who can get stomp-your-li'l-feets wet-your-pants mad at some things, but on the sex front I am just cuddly. At least that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Timebandit on July 02, 2006, 01:36:38 PM
I'm surfing in my pajamas (it's 11:30 here) as a self-reward for making a list of what needs doing, starting the laundry and changing the kitty litter.  We were out late to a bbq at the godlessparents' place, across the street from the big park (Wascana) where they set off the fireworks.  Their front lawn is just about the perfect vantage point.  So we've had a slow morning, and even Ms T slept in.

I suppose I should shower and get dressed, see if I can make a dent in that list -- we've been away on business for 6 days last week, so there's a lot of backed-up stuff like weeding and dusting and whatnot -- the godlessfather had his hands full with the wild girls, so I told him to just let whatever slide on the house side of things -- and I want the house in decent shape when I get back to work, which will also have its backed-up components, on Tuesday.

I also need to get my ma and Ms C over -- Ms C graduated from high school on Tuesday, and I missed it.  I've brought her a special prezzie from Toronto, though, so I hope it makes up for it just a wee bit.
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Post by: fern hill on July 02, 2006, 03:35:37 PM
I'm smoking a Putter.
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Post by: skdadl on July 02, 2006, 03:38:05 PM
Funny. I've never thought of you as a golfer, fern hill.
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Post by: fern hill on July 02, 2006, 03:44:44 PM
It's a cigarette made by these folks: http://www.nativewholesalesupply.com/gre.htm

$38 a carton.
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Post by: skdadl on July 02, 2006, 03:50:38 PM
$38, you say.

Hi, RCMP. *waves at RCMP*  *shifts to PMs*
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Post by: fern hill on July 02, 2006, 03:53:07 PM
They're legal. Well, they must be. They're sold in regular stores.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 02, 2006, 03:54:16 PM
WHERE?!?

I mean, where?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 02, 2006, 03:56:58 PM
The guy I bummed this off buys them at -- address deleted. Ask your friend Grace. Maybe she can get them for you.
Help support Native business.  8)

edited to take location out
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Post by: Toedancer on July 02, 2006, 03:59:03 PM
You know if Skdadl starts smoking Natives, then I believe that will now make all of us. Mine are $20 a carton. Indian Lights. I know a couple of people who buy their native cigs on Kingston Rd.
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Post by: lagatta on July 02, 2006, 05:17:47 PM
Here, practically all my smoker friends smoke Natives, but most of them get them on one of the two nearby reserves. Kahnawake is just across the bridge. (Soon there will be a commuter train) ;)

I'm going to have a bit of supper, early, as I didn't have lunch. I'm not cooking at all any more and have only bought salad greens and (hothouse) tomatoes as veg, and have picked up bbq chicken legs at a nearby East Asian grocery - the place we buy the yummy ducks.  :eat  :drool  and obviously great :tea
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Post by: fern hill on July 03, 2006, 03:56:45 PM
Yay! I finished what I call the 'capture' part. All fucking 500 pages of it. I did not index the full text of the two Constitution Acts included. Mushed it together and now the editing begins. I am feeling accomplished and am going to get myself a glass of wine, for which I just found out there is no smiley. Good thing lagatta has left the continent.  :)
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Post by: skdadl on July 04, 2006, 06:21:51 AM
fern hill, how much of this do you do on-screen?

Are you working from hard copy and typing in your entries, or do you have the copy on-screen so that you can capture from there?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 04, 2006, 07:18:43 AM
I get actual paper pages from the publisher. Mark em up with highlighters (pretty colours), then input each chapter as I go along.  Sort each chapter, i.e. alphabetize, find recurrences, find inconsistencies, etc. Repeat. Mush all chapters together at end, despair for a while, then alphabetize, decide what headings are more useful, check things I've indexed and now have no idea why, put in cross-references, edit for length, proof.

I did one job for another publisher from a pdf. While that was handy for searching, all the scrolling around made me dizzy. Luckily it was a pretty small book.

Apparently, lots of publishers do not provide hard copy at any stage. If you want paper, you use your printer and ink and paper and print it yourself.

There are programs for indexing I've read about but not used. I think they work by coding as you input. So they'd be useful for author/indexer. And, many publishers make authors provide their own indexes. The publisher I work for tried this, but it was such a nightmare, they abandoned the practice.

The thing about electronic searches is they're dumb. A subject could be introduced at the bottom of a page, continue on the next, but with pronouns or other terms, and the program would miss the continuance. Gawd, the 'other terms'. In some subjects (sociology, argghhh), the jargon is so dense, I'm left scratching my head wondering if structural functionalism is the same, similar, completely different from functional structuralism, or whatever. Thank the goddess for the Internet.

Also, I catch quite a few typos and inconsistencies as I read.

There, that's prolly way more than you wanted to know.
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Post by: skdadl on July 04, 2006, 07:43:19 AM
No way! I always want to know how other people are tackling this stuff.

The two scholarly houses I've worked for make their authors provide their own indexes, so mainly I've been involved copy editing the bugg ...  I mean, the product of their labours, and mostly they are ok, although they tend to swing between maybe too minimal and occasionally absurdly detailed, almost  a concordance to the book. Those latter ones are hell to tame down.

I will admit that the few indexes I've done for other people tended towards the over-detailed, although I know enough to slap my own hands when I start getting obsessive-compulsive about the sub-entries.   :wink:

A minor amazement: I don't think I've ever edited an index or a bibliography straight from the author that was perfectly alphabetized -- ever. I guess authors have bigger things on their minds.   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 04, 2006, 08:17:42 AM
One of the nice things about indexing is that no one gives a shit about it. Well, maybe the poor students who actually have to find things in a book might.

So, imagine my surprise when I got a book to index and read in the Introduction that 'the index has been substantially revised blahblah.' I called my boss and said: 'Huh?' She told me that some reviewer had said something nasty about the previous edition's index and she sent me a copy of it (not done by this publisher).

Hoo-boy. It was 26 pages long for a 350 page book! Every entry was modified, even idiotically, like this: 'Id, Freud's concept of'. (That's an actual example.) Consequently each entry had one page number. I tossed it over my shoulder and got on with my way.

And don't get me started about the book -- the fifth and last in a series -- for which it had been decided NOT to list people by their own names, but by the town they came from. :banghead That, apparently, was considered 'elegant'. Useless, I'd call it.
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Post by: Toedancer on July 04, 2006, 08:39:29 AM
Oh geez, just listened to me mum tell me her dream. Apparently my brother is staying there right now. And he told her she was singing, and singing and singing in her dreams. I haven't heard her sing in years. Actually that's how she met my dad. They both had auditions same day in Toronto.

Anyway, when told she was singing, she suddenly remembered her dream.
Which was all about SEX!  Ewww and  :shock:
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Post by: skdadl on July 04, 2006, 09:32:51 AM
What am I doing? I have just been listening to my phone messages from over the weekend. I had let them build up because ... well, don't ask. I have an odd relationship with my phone. Ok: neurotic.

I was going to do this last night, but then I got pulled out and over to a neighbour's for a bit, so I missed the one set of calls I really would have liked to take!

OMG! I have listened to lagatta on my answering machine (she called from her layover at the airport here while I was at neighbour's). OMG! I have to revise my vision of lagatta! lagatta: you sound just like the DMM -- y'know, 'lance's partner? Like, totally like her! (She is gorgeous and very sweet, btw.) I mean, my vision of you was elegant and all, but this is a different version of elegant. OMG!  :D

NB: lagatta has still not heard me speak. Just as well, eh?   :wink:
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Post by: steffie on July 04, 2006, 09:58:56 AM
Currently I am tweaking my CV, updating Workopolis and Monster dot ca accounts, searching local school board sites for job postings, as well as Job Bank and College/Uni. sites.  *sigh* Nothing, yet.

I emailed a former prof for whom I have done some editing work (he is a small local publisher) - He may have some work for me, as the festival season is upon us, and local booksellers (both of them - Ha!) always set up booths at the festival.  

Exposure, exposure, exposure!

In the email I pitched to him the idea of assembling some of my family email correspondence (permission granted) with a running narrative as a potential creative venture.  Perhaps it will be a personal venture at first, but I intend to mask all identities and fictionalize it after the catharsis has worn off.
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Post by: The Hegemo on July 05, 2006, 01:47:35 PM
What am I doing? I'm drinking black coffee (milk went bad in the fridge again!), listening to Johnny Cash, and trying to catch up on all the e-mail/internet stuff I've missed over the past few days. And waiting for the France-Portugal game to start in roughly an hour.

Had a friend from Canada down for the long holiday weekend...lots of running around to show her around town. Then I had people over Monday night to eat bratwurst, drink beer, watch the Cleveland Indians game (well, they took that upon themselves - I maintain a Cincinnati Reds household here) and watch the big Red White and Boom fireworks, to which I have an obstructed-view front-row seat from my apartment. Then yesterday was the DooDah Parade, which is a kind of Fourth of July anti-parade with lots of political commentary and satire and just plain wackiness in my neighborhood. And my father was briefly in town to pick up my mother and aunt at the airport, so we had a quick dinner with him.

My friend left this morning, so I've been using this vacation day to rest up, clean up the house, cart all the beer bottles off to the park to recycle, etc. I have another vacation day scheduled tomorrow, but I think I'm going to go into work and just use that day later this month for my travel to a wedding in Ithaca, NY.

Whew!
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Post by: Debra on July 05, 2006, 01:56:38 PM
So whacha been doin with your spare time?  :shock:
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Post by: fern hill on July 05, 2006, 02:09:42 PM
Ithaca is such a nice town. A pal went to Cornell and I visited for a couple of weeks in about 1972. Cornell has a veterinary school and for some reason they bred 7-toed cats. My pal lived in a big farm house with a bunch of other students and they had one of these cats, well, a kitten. It looked like it was wearing baseball mitts on its feet. It liked to bat your pen as you tried to write. The only way to stop it was to rest your writing hand on him/her. Seemed to like that, got the purr machine going. Was comfy for the writer, too.
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Post by: skdadl on July 05, 2006, 02:23:51 PM
For several years in the early 80s I went down to Ithaca for the major-league baseball all-star break. It is a little bit of heaven, and the highway comes upon it so suddenly. Home of the Moosewood Restaurant, too.
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Post by: The Hegemo on July 05, 2006, 02:26:25 PM
Despite having gone to undergrad in Upstate New York, I've never actually been to Ithaca. I drove past the exit for it a couple times on my way to/from a conference in Binghamton, but didn't have time to stop.

I'm looking forward to seeing the town, as I've heard lots of good things about it. That's an additional incentive to work tomorrow so as to give myself more time to go to and from the wedding, so I can stop and look around, instead of just driving there and back.

Well, that's one incentive...the other is that the wedding/reception itself is being held at a winery, so it may be some time before I'm feeling up to drive on Sunday morning!  :oops:
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Post by: Debra on July 05, 2006, 02:37:17 PM
ah ha!!!  :drunk   :wink:
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Post by: brebis noire on July 05, 2006, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: skdadl
For several years in the early 80s I went down to Ithaca for the major-league baseball all-star break. It is a little bit of heaven, and the highway comes upon it so suddenly. Home of the Moosewood Restaurant, too.


Why does this immediately make me think of Bull Durham?  :shock:  :wink:
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Post by: skdadl on July 05, 2006, 02:46:33 PM
Because I remind you of Susan Sarandon?  *primp*
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Post by: brebis noire on July 05, 2006, 02:47:43 PM
Well, duh!   :)
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Post by: brebis noire on July 05, 2006, 03:24:51 PM
Well that kind of froze everybody in their tracks, now didn't it.  :?
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Post by: skdadl on July 05, 2006, 03:30:15 PM
Little do they know that this is the real moi. (http://www25.brinkster.com/agathachristie/IMAGES/Margaret_Rutherford_01.jpg)
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Post by: brebis noire on July 05, 2006, 03:31:57 PM
OMG! You are a forbidden object!! :shock:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 05, 2006, 03:34:18 PM
Hmmn. Well, eckshully, I am, but I have a feeling that I am missing a further allusion there. Boy, has this been my day to miss allusions or what.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: brebis noire on July 05, 2006, 03:36:07 PM
I just can't access the link, is all (it cites a 'forbidden object' which of course as as you say, you are.  :wink: )
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 05, 2006, 03:38:24 PM
Is this a Christie story?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 08, 2006, 02:17:48 PM
I was just laughing at the barrage of questions Debra launched at eph to clarify eph's curtain project. I thought I'd get this thread up so we could all lie down after Debra tells us what she's doing/has done today. :)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 08, 2006, 02:51:18 PM
I'll have you know those are perfectly legit question hrrmph!!

and I have been woefully lazy today all I have accomplished is pissing myself off with reading, making lunch, posting here and drinking...um I mean ....ah fuckit the sun is over the yard arm... :drunk
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 08, 2006, 02:55:47 PM
Yay! The sloths have won Debra over! Victory is ours! :party2

What are we drinking, by the way?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 08, 2006, 03:10:29 PM
Ex the beer of rowdies and I'm on my last damn one.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on July 08, 2006, 04:21:57 PM
Uh-oh. Drunken mod on the loose.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 08, 2006, 04:24:13 PM
no no I need to get more before I can get drunk and then look out stoners.  :drunk  :spyglass
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on July 08, 2006, 04:25:12 PM
We'll have a spelling contest later.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 08, 2006, 04:28:11 PM
Quote from: ephemeral
We'll have a spelling contest later.


Hee. The online version of walking a straight line, occifer?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 08, 2006, 04:31:50 PM
shit my spelling sucks at the best of times.

I should install that spell check thing, but I tried and fucked it up.

HTML was so easy...all this new fangled stuff is wierd. maybe if I try when I'm drunk....that's the ticket....
 8)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on July 08, 2006, 04:33:15 PM
lol! Yea, that's the ticket, Debra. Drinking will make you spell better.

Or do you mean, installing the spell check while drunk?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 08, 2006, 04:44:22 PM
installing PHP code is best understood drunk I think
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 08, 2006, 05:19:34 PM
I am contemplating cat boxes that need changing (as usual), floors that need washing, sheets that need washing (yes, thanks, I got the underwear done), and accounts that need doing. Oh, and then there's the garden, where I am raising a record crop of weeds.

But don't worry about me. Don't spare a thought for me. Heaven forfend ...  *drowns in self-pity*
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 08, 2006, 05:22:49 PM
are you channelling skdadl? don't worry about me, I'll be alright you guys just go on your way.. I'll manage somehow... sigh.... :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 08, 2006, 05:31:45 PM
hmm creamsicle :drool
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 08, 2006, 05:38:14 PM
Creamsicle!

Cat boxes!

Creamsicle!

Cat boxes!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 08, 2006, 05:43:58 PM
hardly seems fair does it?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 08, 2006, 05:53:10 PM
all together now... just a spoon full of sugar......
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 09, 2006, 02:11:30 PM
I am not smoking a Putter. I tried to buy some last week, but apparently did not have the magic word. I found out today that you have to see a certain guy and he goes out to his car to get them. So things are not so up-and-up as I was given to believe.

Today, though, I had the magic word, but the guy wasn't there.

(I deleted the location from my post up-thread there.)

The guy who gave me the magic word says he will 'fix me up'.

Damn, I feel old. I can't even do a little drug deal anymore.  :stoner
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 09, 2006, 02:17:56 PM
did you wear your trench coat and fedora under shadow of night?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 09, 2006, 02:23:22 PM
You know, it occurs to me that I might be being had. The magic-word guy is a big kidder, practical joker even. This is not beyond him. But I did see the pack, and I smoked one. I don't believe he'd go as far as making up the actual cigarettes. But he might be sending me to the wrong place. If this is the case, I'll need you guys to help me come up with an appropriate revenge on him.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on July 09, 2006, 02:29:28 PM
Oh .... putting on her thinking cap ...  :party2  

Do they still sell those weird herbal ciggies at health food stores - the ones made with dried lettuce and lupine stems or something like that?  You could replace his regular tobacky ciggies with those ...  :twisted:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 09, 2006, 02:41:16 PM
sell him an ounce of the most excellent herb...what?... orengano is a herb  :stoner
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 09, 2006, 02:52:04 PM
I am trying to convince self to go to Loblaw's.

I don't really have to go, and yet I do. I haven't had proper bread for a day or so, and I really rely on nice bread. In the deli section, not the bakery, my store has these wonderful 11-grain baguettes, so light, not mealy at all but with li'l seeds through and through -- most tasty. I want one. But it means a walk.

What else should I get to justify the trip? I'm sort of hungry, but I really don't want to cook.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 09, 2006, 03:00:46 PM
cigs!! oh and maybe some cigs. well just in case you notice you are low in the morning maybe you should buy some cigs.

how about some lovely cheese to go with your bread, some grapes and a couple of slices of prosciutto
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 09, 2006, 03:05:40 PM
You've reminded me! A lighter! I have the cigs, but the lighter has died. I've been using -- oh, the horror, the horror -- matches all day.  

I was thinking of getting a li'l smoked meat -- I have been so good with the fish lately: I think I've earned some nitrites, or nitrates, or whatever it is in smoked meat that is gonna kill me.

I wouldn't eat that with the baguette, though. I eat that baguette nekkid, it is so good. If I get smoked meat, I'll have to get something to eat it on.

I think I'll look to see if they have blackberries, the greatest berry of all, imho.

Gee. This is a good way to do a shopping list.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on July 09, 2006, 03:53:42 PM
Well I'm on holiday now, thanks to some of you guys. Thanks  :lol:
I'm eating sgetti with schroom sauce and garlic bread. No salad. I'm going to go cycle to the general store and get a King Kong, the kind with the wee surprise in the middle.

I can hear SO say things from TV room I've never really heard before.
Things like "You bastard, you faker, gawd he just did it so Italy'd  get a penalty" and stuff like that.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on July 09, 2006, 04:02:15 PM
Quote from: skdadl
... I think I've earned some nitrites, or nitrates, or whatever it is in smoked meat that is gonna kill me. ... I think I'll look to see if they have blackberries, the greatest berry of all, imho. ...
Real Montréal-style smoked meat - the beef brisket type - should not have nitrates, I would think.  Pastrami does, I believe.  

Blackberries!! Have you ever had them with mango slices or better still, juicy Ontario peaches?  :drool
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on July 09, 2006, 04:51:43 PM
Vancouver Island blackberries, with salmon berries, huckleberries and raspberries, and you cook half of them, just a fast b oil, then mix the cooked with the other half raw...line a baked pie shell with plenty of whipped cream...pour in berry mix..more whipped  cream...more berries...more whipped cream...put in fridge to chill until it screeches your name so loudly you just have to break down and give it what it wants...eat it and grin...

Or blackberry grunt...mix a shortcake, absolutely heap the blackberries on top, cake will rise to enfold them...when done add more berries and whipped cream and eat it until you grunt like a pig.......

blackberries fresh from the vine, still warm with sunlight...

but the ultimate is huckleberry pie.  Oh my GAWD!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 09, 2006, 04:59:38 PM
OMG. I completely forgot the blackberries! I was looking around for nice rye bread for the smoked meat (yes! brisket! so no nitrates?) and completely forgot the blackberries!

Tomorrow.

I was very tempted to buy a tabloid about Jon Benet's mother, or maybe the one about Angelina's fears over going back to LA (can Brad take that?), and if I go back tomorrow I might get the Oprah -- I've never read Oprah, which I feel is an omission.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 09, 2006, 05:07:22 PM
skdadl what have we discussed? always shop with a list.

and when buying tabloid trash the alien stories are probably the only true ones.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 09, 2006, 05:24:57 PM
Debra, I figure that I already get the alien stories right here from Mandos for free. Why would I pay for mating aliens?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 09, 2006, 05:28:54 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Debra, I figure that I already get the alien stories right here from Mandos for free. Why would I pay for mating aliens?
:lol:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 09, 2006, 05:41:12 PM
If I were young and foolish, I'd walk up to St Clair, wouldn't I.

Wouldn't I?

There is a rain front moving in, though. Ooh. Very dark off to the west there. Give me excuses not to go walking again.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on July 10, 2006, 08:23:10 AM
"Because I don't feel like doing it"
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Sleeping Sun on July 10, 2006, 08:28:29 AM
"The berries will taste better tomorrow."

ps - I'm desperately trying to not work.  I'm at work, but I'm very tired, and have decided that out and out not working is maybe better than the paltry half-assed work I would do if I tried.  My best friend is in town for some support as she is experiencing the second large crisis in her life (two in a year!).  Lots of late nights.  Lots of tears.  Lots of feelings of helplessness.  Lots of hugs.  Some days, work is just not so important.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Caissa on July 10, 2006, 10:00:57 AM
I just received an official warning on EM! Is there a crying emoticon?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 10, 2006, 10:17:03 AM
Caissa, I know how it feels, and sometimes it's not such a bad thing to have a bit of a cloudburst over it.

It has happened to so many of us now, though. Remember that, and you'll feel better. It isn't you. It can't be that many of us. Something is wrong there, not with you.  *heart*
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: rinne on July 10, 2006, 10:48:29 AM
I'm thinking about going for a walk, it is a lovely summer morning here and my body feels like it would appreciate moving but then again I could also just here and cruise about the various boards I've discovered, or I could keep doing this.

It was in May of 2005 that I discovered Babble and it changed my life, I felt connected to a wider community of people and when Babble exploded/divided I went to EnMasse even though I hadn't been babbling much under Rinne ( I had changed my name from aCoW).  By that time I was ill and not sitting up so much,  I didn't go to EnMasse so often, but then every time I did it seemed there was a storm and I found I just didn't have the energy for that and then suddenly it was a different place.  

Funny, fragile thing that identity is on the net,  I felt like I disappeared and with it came a feeling of freedom to explore other places, other boards, to see what others are doing.  Babble had been my only reference point and I was content with it, it was a brilliant place and I caught only the last year of it.  I am baffled by these references to some history of conflict at Babble, I honestly didn't feel like there was but maybe I just missed it or because Audra was there it was restrained.  I don't know nor do I need to know.  

I only asks who profits from this war?  I think the phrase "the left eats its own" is ridiculous, the right is always looking for the opportunity to do so.

So, I discovered other boards and through that have begun to heal and can now sit at the computer and have more good days than bad ones, if I was waiting for western medicine to fix me I would be in very bad shape. I am grateful for all of it.  I hope this is a board that I can connect with and I will try but I have no more war left in me, well maybe a little - for selected causes. 8)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 10, 2006, 10:58:00 AM
That's beautiful, rinne. I think a lot of people here will connect with that.

I hope you will have patience just a little longer, though, with people who are mourning what they lost. No doubt, we have lost, and we lost a lot. I don't believe that there will be wars here, but I do think that some people here need to go through a mourning process. Some of us are saying good-bye to five years, y'know?

And some people are feeling that kind of anger we all know at perceived injustice. You can see it's never gonna be fixed, but it takes a while to get past the anger.

Please be generous to those who have been hurt.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: rinne on July 10, 2006, 11:13:59 AM
Skdadl, I have missed you.  Thank you for your kind words.

I hope to be patient, I appreciate the grief that people have and that anger is part of it, I am sad too.
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Post by: brebis noire on July 10, 2006, 11:32:55 AM
Hi rinne - it is nice to hear from you again. I was missing aCow, but rinne has a very nice rinnng.  :)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: rinne on July 10, 2006, 03:12:23 PM
Hello brebis noire, nice to find you again.  Thank you for the welcome.  I miss aCoW too but I felt that it was time for a change.

Yes, fun to find a name with a rinnng to it and the neat thing, for me, is that it seems that in both Irish and Japanese it means just that, as in a circle or wheel.
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Post by: Stargazer on July 10, 2006, 03:15:12 PM
I really like this board. It's great!

I am now going through each and every computer that has been hijacked by various malware and removing all of it. Not an easy task. besides that, I am happy to be here with you guys and gals. It's a great and refreshing change and I look forward to spending more time on here.

Oh and if I get out of hand, please do let me know. I can be a firecracker sometimes.
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Post by: The Hegemo on July 10, 2006, 04:23:49 PM
I am at work and thinking about how much I wish I had a smoothie right now.

Another hour or so and then I can go home and make myself one.  :)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on July 10, 2006, 04:58:40 PM
So many familiar 'faces'  :)

I've been f*cking the (other) dog instead of working on a damn boring proposal   :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Sleeping Sun on July 11, 2006, 02:39:25 PM
Help!

I've got another hour of work to kill, and my favourite sudoku site just went down.

I need another good time waster, or I may actually have to do some work.  

Don't let it happen!  Save me!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 11, 2006, 02:42:58 PM
10 page personality test

http://www.breadnroses.com/forums/viewt ... 50&start=0 (http://www.breadnroses.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=550&start=0)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Sleeping Sun on July 11, 2006, 02:55:23 PM
Done!

Still have 40 minutes to spare.

Maybe my boss won't notice me ducking out early?  :twisted:
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 11, 2006, 04:19:28 PM
Quote from: Sleeping Sun
Done!

Still have 40 minutes to spare.

Maybe my boss won't notice me ducking out early?  :twisted:


When I worked in Ottawa, many were the days that we had to stay behind past 5 pm because some of our projects on the west coast hadn't reported in time, or the Minister needed some supporting papers in the House. To compensate, whenever we finished our work early, we closed up shop and went home. Ours was initially a short term emergency make-work program that became more or less permanent, morphing into other programs (first Opportunities For Youth - then the Local Initiatives Program - on to something else, by which time I quit).
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 11, 2006, 04:26:21 PM
I'm listening to a cranky squirrel in the backyard. Wonder if the birdfeeder is out of seed?  :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 11, 2006, 05:42:34 PM
Do you keep feeding them in summer, Debra?

I usually stop once the weather is good and I can see edibles growing. Li'l buggers need some exercise and initiative after all, eh?

During the winter, though, we have a deal. I keep the feeder full, and they charm me as I sit in the kitchen in the mornings.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 11, 2006, 05:59:04 PM
Apparently they have found that birds treat the feeders somewhat like fast food stores.

Doesn't stop them from foraging else just some quick calories   :lol:

Anyway I have a very small pond and in the old place the parents would bring the babies around while they feed and teach them to drink and bathe at the pond. So I'm hoping I can get some new families here.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on July 11, 2006, 06:41:27 PM
I think I've been adopted by a feral cat - at least, it's a cat I've never seen here before. I'll wait a couple of days and inquire around to see if it has a home. This morning it sneaked around my veggie garden, then under the woodshed, and then it surprised the dickens out of me when I went into the garage to get some tools. It's been here since early this morning, and was still here around 3 this afternoon. Should I put out a saucer with water for it, or something? It's cute as a button, probably three or four years old. Runs away from me, but maybe it'll calm down somewhat.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on July 11, 2006, 06:57:38 PM
It's probably going to drop a litter of mutt kittens.........a clitter of littens...a clutter of muttsters.... an old mac full of mews.... I have a sometimer, a second crippled crow... still moves away when I go out to put down some cat chow but it doesn't fly away, just watches very alertly.  Two eyes , one gnarled crippled foot...Corby has looked very stressed lately, today I noticed new shiny feathers so I guess she is moulting.  feral cat has two tail-in-the-air baby furballs trailing after her.  I will not, I will not, I will not, I will not....
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Post by: brebis noire on July 11, 2006, 08:16:52 PM
anne, that reminds me of an article I just read over the weekend, or maybe last week, I can't remember. It was about a crow that died at the age of 70 or something. A tame crow....it was rescued by someone and they kept it in a shelter all those years. I think it was in the Globe.
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Post by: fern hill on July 11, 2006, 09:14:56 PM
I read that story about the tame crow. Crows and ravens are fascinating. Sweetie had a commish to do a sculpture of a crow, so I did some Internetting for him. There are zillions of sites on crows and ravens. In one, I read about the crows' funeral. When the flock finds a member dead, they congregate, walk around the body, chatter, and at some agreed-on moment, all fly straight up.

I read this just before the first summer of West Nile here. There was a dead crow on a neighbour's lawn. I watched. The crows, maybe 10-12 of them, congregated, inspected, chattered, then flew straight up. Breath-taking.
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 11, 2006, 09:21:41 PM
If it is indeed a feral cat, then it's been looking after itself well. However, I'll put out a saucer of water and maybe some scraps and see what happens. Haven't any real pet food handy.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on July 11, 2006, 09:41:44 PM
Ah been drinkin'. Tee hee.
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Post by: Gigi on July 11, 2006, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: anne cameron
I will not, I will not, I will not, I will not....


Will they let you close to them?  It might be best to socialize them while they are young; they'd have much better lives...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on July 11, 2006, 09:58:07 PM
This should prolly be in critters, but you guys have made me remember my grandma's crow. Peter was his name. He lived in the house with us. He and my grandpa hated each other cos Peter would sit on his head during dinner and shit on him. The shit would roll down to grandpa's big old German'Jewish nose. Then all hell would break loose, windows opened for Peter to get away.

When Grandpa was working on the well, as he always seemed to be doing, all his tools would sit up top along the edge while gramps was down in well. Peter would sit on edge and beak the tools to fall over and land on grandpas head.  :lol:  Peter was a frikkin gas. I loved him. He came on holidays with us to the Haliburton farmhouse. And then came home with us at the end of August. When Gramps died, not only did his dog go away and die, but Peter flew away and never came back.  :cry:
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Post by: Holly Stick on July 11, 2006, 11:21:14 PM
Quote from: Boom Boom
...Ours was initially a short term emergency make-work program that became more or less permanent, morphing into other programs (first Opportunities For Youth - then the Local Initiatives Program - on to something else, by which time I quit).
Ha, I'm going through some old files for a First Nation and today saw papers about LIP, in the 1970s I think; meanwhile sneaking peeks at the conversations here under the guise of a Guest.  Did LIP turn into LEAP or was that different?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 12, 2006, 09:39:17 AM
So yesterday what I was doing was helping the kids shovel...I mean clean their room. there is an old style vent in the middle of the floor so they took that off to get a some lego pieces that had fallen through.

One of them says to me What's this? This was a friggin crack pipe.  :shock:

Guess I shouldn't have been surprised of the three previous tenants one used the place as a grow house, one dealt a bit of everything and at one point this was the place to flop out and buy and do crack. Modern day opium den.
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Post by: skdadl on July 12, 2006, 10:00:33 AM
Boom Boom, it's my understanding that raw beef is never going to hurt a kitty, although I sit to be corrected by our resident vet. I would be careful about any other scraps. Males should definitely not eat fish. The water is a good idea, especially in summer. Good luck.

I am just contemplating a message telling me that I will have a houseguest one night next week. You guys! The floors that have to be washed! I should be happy, but all I can think of is the damned floors!   :?
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 12, 2006, 11:44:45 AM
Oh, gosh, I'd never give raw scraps to anything. I meant leftover scraps of cooked food - cut up scraps of cooked hamburger or chicken. Just left water out last night, no sign of the cat today so far. I still haven't asked yet if anyone owns it.
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 12, 2006, 11:49:19 AM
Quote from: Holly Stick
Did LIP turn into LEAP or was that different?


I think so, can't remember. I think I was the third employee ever hired on the LIP program. I left in 1977 to go university - could afford it by then, as M&I paid quite generously. Cam Mackie who started Opportunities For Youth hired me in 1971 for the new venture that became LIP.
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Post by: fern hill on July 13, 2006, 05:39:36 PM
I'm sorta doing my human valium act again. Sweetie is nutty busy, so I came over, checked out his larder, bought some groceries, am now cooking same, but sweetie not here. Sweetie is stuck on set and has no idea when he'll be cut loose.

So how can I be human valium if he's not here?

Bored, drinking beer, no telly.

Ah, I know, I'll go clean out my PM in-box which is alarmingly full. How do that happen?

(That last bit is Molesworth-speak. Any Molesworth fans here?)
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Post by: sparqui on July 13, 2006, 05:47:20 PM
I am trying to do something, ANYTHING, other than sit here tap, tap, tapping on my computer. A huge sinkful of dishes awaits me... (I used 'waiting for Freestyle to finish' as an excuse but that program ended almost two hours ago.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 13, 2006, 06:13:41 PM
I'm on the way to the kitchen. NOW!

Y'know the stupid thing I did two days ago? I started taking apart the top of the stove -- what do we call that? all the wee bits that cover the burners? -- in order to scrub them.

So, like, I am part way through.  :oops:

However, in the meantime, both the kitchen cat and I have left deposits on what was a fairly clean surface when it was covered by the bits that I have now moved to the sink to clean. Perhaps you are following me. Perhaps not. But the upshot is that EVERYTHING is now much dirtier than it was.

That's why I am now off to the kitchen. Argh.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on July 13, 2006, 06:20:21 PM
I don't envy you skdadl! And look, I'm still here - argggghhhhh.

ETA: irritating little verb
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Post by: deBeauxOs on July 13, 2006, 06:50:50 PM
Quote from: skdadl
... in the meantime, the kitchen cat and I have left deposits on what was a fairly clean surface when it was covered by the bits that I have now moved to the sink to clean. Perhaps you are following me.
Cats are strange are they not?  Friends' cat will jump on the stove and will pee on the burners if they have the audacity to leave home for a few days, in the care of a pet-sitter - they have other animals, none as neurotic.
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Post by: Debra on July 13, 2006, 07:26:51 PM
:piratepost  arr mateys I've been scuppered. Landlubbers phoned and have forced me to an agreement to watch the wee landlubber whilst they attend Pirates of the Caribean. It's mutiney I tell ya lads.  :piratedance
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 15, 2006, 02:36:47 PM
I have to go to the store. Please encourage me.

This is a horrible development, however. The air in Toronto is now the consistency of vanilla pudding -- cheap vanilla pudding, y'know? The kind you'd usually use for children's crafts or for quick plumbing repairs, or maybe to slick down that eyebrow you didn't have time to trim because your toenails were worse.

Anyway, I have to walk through it. Lordy. Talk about your existential crises.
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Post by: 'lance on July 15, 2006, 02:39:50 PM
Let's encourage each other, skdadl. Me, I have to get up and go to the cafe around the corner for breakfast, or rather lunch, because there's nothing to eat in the house. If I don't get up soon, I'll be stuck here for the rest of the day.

OK, here I go...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 15, 2006, 02:42:02 PM
It'll be cool at the store. There's a beer store near me with the walk-in-and-get-yer-own feature. I'm thinking of taking a lawn over there and paying whatever they ask to sit for a while.
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Post by: 'lance on July 15, 2006, 03:45:11 PM
...and I'm back. I needed that. I'm beginning to feel more than half-alive, now.

For any Vancouver BnR types: if you haven't been to BC Gelati, at the corner of Spruce Street and Broadway -- run, don't walk. Don't be misled by the name. They have ice cream and all manner of Italian goodies, but also excellent sandwiches, egg dishes, and coffee.

Coffee. Oh, man. I'm working on some kind of magnum opus about Chile, but in the meanwhile: though they have some good food and lots of splendid wine there, they haven't heard the news about coffee. Nineteen times out of twenty -- in "good" restaurants included -- when you order coffee, you get a little tube of Nescafe and some hot water.

Now, the Nescafe seems different, and a little better, than you get in North America. But that's about the faintest praise I can imagine. I don't think I'd drunk instant coffee since student days, in the 80s. The novelty wore off after about two days, three at the outside.

Something has to give. I'm no fan of Yanqui capitalimperialism, of course, and I know that Starbuck's (which has begun to expand into Chile) hardly sells the best coffee around. But when they expanded in North America, they gave many people their first taste of halfway-decent coffee, and suddenly the market for such blew up overnight. I hope they make just enough inroads in Chile to do the same. I can't think what else would do it.
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Post by: skdadl on July 15, 2006, 04:23:06 PM
I'm back too. I survived too. Just barely, but I did.

It was actually so pleasant to be in the store once I got there that I started getting neurotic about leaving. I bought more than I meant to because I didn't want to go back outside.

On the way home, I pass under a railway bridge, which is often a source of distress to me, although it is now beautifully decorated with painted sunflowers on the lower, pedestrian parts. There always seems to be a train going over, though, when I get there, and I often imagine them crashing through on to me as I walk under ...  

But as I was saying. On the railway bridge today, there was a young couple. I have no idea what they were doing up there. They looked cheerful, so I don't think it was an Anna Karenina thing. But really, there is no space on that bridge for persons if a train is coming through, and they come through often.   :shock:

About Chile and the coffee: I am gob-smacked, 'lance, to hear that any South American is not a coffee connoisseur/euse. I thought they all knew their coffee. What curious twist of fate can there have been to so deprive Chileans?
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Post by: 'lance on July 15, 2006, 08:24:46 PM
Not rightly sure, skdadl, so all I can give you is WAGs (Wild-Ass Guesses).

In the first place, they don't (so far as I know) grow coffee in Chile. I'd guess it's one of the few things they don't grow. Perhaps they don't grow all that much grain either, but import it from Argentina. But everything else seems to grow in profusion, including fruits and vegetables that you just don't get in North America, or possibly anywhere else outside South America.

In the second place, Chile is (I'm told) quite different to most other Latin American countries in many ways. Other Latin Americans even regard Chileans as, you know, not quite like us. (Travelling on her Chilean passport, a Chilean-Canadian friend of ours was once called, to her face, "quasi-Latina" by a Mexican immigration cop. Wisely, she didn't haul off and drop him, though she easily could have).

I'm not sure of all the historical reasons for this. Though they have a presidential republic like other South American countries, after independence Chileans seemed to look as much to the British and Germans for political and social models as  to anyone else. Certainly Chileans tend to be reserved, place high premiums on politeness and punctuality, etc. (When a bus is scheduled to leave at, say, 11:10 a.m., it leaves at 11:10 a.m., to the minute. More trivia: for generations, even before Pinochet, Chilean ceremonial guards did the goose-step. This had nothing to do with fascism, or sympathy for it. They'd simply imported Prussian military instructors, then known as the best in the business, to "modernize" their army in around 1890 or something. I don't know if they still goose-step, though the guards around the Moneda -- Presidential office building -- still have something of a Prussian look, to my eyes).

Definitely they were somewhat isolated for a long time, and mountain ranges were only one factor. Since around 1880 they've had really lousy relations, if any, with Peru and Bolivia. (I'd take the side of the Peruvians and Bolivians on this one, if I had to). There wasn't much trade or exchange there for a long time, although nowadays lots of Peruvians and I imagine Bolivians come to Chile, legally and otherwise, to work. Chile isn't rich by North American standards, but definitely more so than either Peru or Bolivia.

(It's shocking, infuriating, but by reliable accounts the Chilean side of the Peruvian border is actually sown with anti-personnel mines to deter drug smugglers and -- probably even more important, to Chile -- illegal immigrants. Word is the new Interior Minister wants, belatedly, to end this barbarism).

As for Argentina, a person gets the feeling that Chileans tend to regard Argentinians (and for that matter Brazilians) a little like Canadians tend to look at Americans -- stylish and energetic to be sure, but a little loud and obnoxious and, you know, not quite like us. Lots of Chileans spend time or get educated in Argentina, but also have a desire to differentiate themselves from Argentinians that may, I think, have a little to do with insecurity.

So why no coffee -- little real coffee, that is (though you can buy beans in grocery stores) in Chile? I can only guess that (a) the original inhabitants (Atacamena in the north, Mapuche in the south) traditionally drank tea of one kind or another, not coffee; (b) most settlers weren't people who were used to drinking coffee; (c) they didn't pick up the habit through trade or travel; and (d) at some critical moment -- maybe when Chileans were becoming a bit more prosperous, a bit more cosmopolitan, were wondering uneasily how they could pick up some of the sophistication they imagined others had, and were thus sitting ducks for a good marketing campaign, Nestle arrived, and got themselves thoroughly entrenched before anyone quite realized what had happened.

Here endeth today's arm-wave.
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on July 15, 2006, 11:53:07 PM
Quote from: Debra
:piratepost  arr mateys I've been scuppered. Landlubbers phoned and have forced me to an agreement to watch the wee landlubber whilst they attend Pirates of the Caribean. It's mutiney I tell ya lads.  :piratedance


Your response, I hope. (http://www.nonstick.com/sounds/Yosemite_Sam/ltys_049.wav)
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Post by: skdadl on July 16, 2006, 05:46:08 AM
That is so much more cultural background than I've ever heard about Chile before, 'lance. Thanks very much. For a time I was quite immersed in the politics of it all, but I've never known the history.

"not quite like us" ... heh. We should have a thread where we could act that out ...  Ok. Maybe we shouldn't.   :wink:

D'ye know, immediately after I wrote about that young couple on the railway overpass, I was back in the kitchen reading my Saturday Grope and Flail, and there on the front page of the Toronto section (which I guess many here won't see) was an interview with the young woman who had a chunk of rubble dropped on and into her car from an overpass just this past winter. Her face was horribly smashed up (she would have died, actually, had she been in the car alone because the first impact knocked her out -- luckily her brother was in the car too and was able to bring it to a safe halt).

She has been through a half-dozen operations since then, had her face massively reconstructed ... and from the photo, the doctors seem to have worked magic, because she is lovely. She got married yesterday. When you read what happened to her, that is hard to believe, but she did it. She even sounds to be pretty mentally resilient, although who knows how some memories will play out over time.

The kid who dropped the rubble on her car was thirteen at the time.
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on July 16, 2006, 08:44:29 AM
Thanks 'lance.  I'm excited to read what else to have to say about Chile and your trip there.

One of my good friends recently started dating a Chilean ex-pat, and she is a beautiful (in all senses of the word) and wonderful woman.  From talking to her about Chile, where she was born and lived until she was 12, you get quite a sense of quiet, almost backhanded and modest, pride.  It was a surprisingly Canadian attitude.  

Right now I am savouring my second cup of green tea.  I got up this morning and was all set to get my jerkey started (I was prompted by the camping foods thread to make some), and dug my trusty dehydrator out of the basement.  Oh dear.  Someone (ME!) didn't clean it up properly before storing it, so it was still a bit dirty, and then had collected dust, so you get that lovely greasy dusty filmy crap all over.  Our dishwasher is broken, so I set them in a sink of hot sudsy water and made an omelette for breakfast.  Almost lost the whole thing trying to flip it.  Then I took the scrub brush to the trays, got them sparkling, then loaded it up.

Now, our house smells like a smokehouse and the dehydrator is humming away.  I forgot how noisy it was.  I guess that's what you get when you buy the cheapest one you can find. :)

Man on man, that jerky is going to taste delicious.  (mmm, I thought we had a drooly smiley).
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Post by: Debra on July 16, 2006, 08:58:27 AM
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Man on man, that jerky is going to taste delicious. (mmm, I thought we had a drooly smiley).


What did you say you were doing again?  :shock:
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Post by: skdadl on July 16, 2006, 09:02:50 AM
:rotfl:
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on July 16, 2006, 09:08:57 AM
:oops:   :oops:  :oops:

Have I ever mentioned I can't type too well?

Let's try again:  Man oh man, that jerky is going to taste delicious.[/b]
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Post by: Debra on July 16, 2006, 09:13:13 AM
:drool  ( to make amends.)
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on July 16, 2006, 09:17:35 AM
Oh yeah, like your writing wouldn't get jerky too if you were distracted like that.

 :ducking
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on July 16, 2006, 09:20:00 AM
:drool    That's me!   :wink:

I'm going to have to get out of the house to escape the smell.  That might work to my advantage, if I take the opportunity to catch up on some yardwork.  otoh, it's going to be nasty hot again today, so I might just head to the beach with some sunscreen, a book, my towel, and ice-cream money.
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Post by: steffie on July 16, 2006, 09:50:23 AM
SS, but now you smell a little jerky! ;)  Aren't you afraid of causing an uproar, ala the Pied Piper?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 16, 2006, 10:28:30 AM
I have a houseguest coming tomorrow, and we are, of course, very grubby and messy around here. How does that happen?

Anyway, I have to clean. Some floors will need washing. Some stuff needs transporting (ie: I need to hide it while she's here).

Always when this happens to me, I suddenly turn leaden. I keep looking at the tasks that need doing and thinking, "Well, that won't be so hard ..." I can sit and look and think that for a very long time. And not lift a finger.

Motivate me.
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Post by: fern hill on July 16, 2006, 10:36:02 AM
Yeah, well, I'm pretty cool here at sweetie's. I've got to go home to my hot apt and work. The project I'm working on is in no great rush, but I've got two coming that are, so I should get this one done. I don wanna.

Motivate me.
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on July 16, 2006, 10:45:24 AM
Motivation?

Get back to work, young lady.  I've got a ladder.

(http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/angryoldman.gif)
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Post by: skdadl on July 16, 2006, 11:01:00 AM
To which young lady would you have been speaking, kind sir?

*trick question*
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on July 16, 2006, 11:09:49 AM
Pick one.  

Ye dern fool kids -- ye're all alike these days, what with yer wacky tabacky and yer jerky ...

(http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/dark.gif)
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Post by: Stargazer on July 16, 2006, 01:01:41 PM
I'm going to the Distillery District with a photographer friend of mine to take pictures of the old architecture. I love taking pictures of Toronto. The architecture is so chaotic as to be beautiful. My theme is the juxtaposition of nature and the city, in particular man made monstrosities.
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Post by: fern hill on July 16, 2006, 02:59:04 PM
My comeuppance for procrastination -- the streetcar I was on coming home was in an accident. It was turning west at Parliament and Carlton, when a car ran the red light, hit the streetcar, backed up and squealed away down Parliament. Nobody in the streetcar was hurt. And the three people in the car looked OK. There wasn't even any damage to the streetcar. But the police were called, and TTC inspectors, and we all get off, get on another one. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Then the motherf^$@#$ing thing got short-turned. It took an hour and a half and three streetcars to get me home.

And there was no :ladder in sight.
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Post by: skdadl on July 16, 2006, 03:06:23 PM
Well, I blame gunnar. He talks a good line, y'know, but where's the commitment? I ask you.
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Post by: 'lance on July 16, 2006, 03:53:31 PM
You're blaming gunnar for a car-streetcar crash?

Man, that's just cold.
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Post by: skdadl on July 16, 2006, 03:57:18 PM
I've had a hard life, 'lance.   :wink:
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Post by: 'lance on July 16, 2006, 04:04:14 PM
Well I know, but still.

One of my favourite unread writers (unread by me that is, I know him only from an essay by Mavis Gallant) is the late Paul Leataud, French journalist and diarist who died in 1956. He was a famous ironist. Late in life he said he could sum up his life with the words "I regret everything."

I have the theory that he was slyly sending up the Edith Piaf song (I don't know about you, but I tend not to believe people who say they have no regrets).

Anyway, as a motto I kind of like it.
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Post by: skdadl on July 16, 2006, 04:11:12 PM
Aha.

Now, the equivalent in North American culture would be a send-up of Anka/Sinatra, "I did it MY way."

How would you put that?
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Post by: 'lance on July 16, 2006, 04:20:06 PM
"I Didn't Bother"?

Even the original (and pretty despairing) "Comme D'Habitude" was better than "My Way." Blech.
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Post by: skdadl on July 16, 2006, 04:23:43 PM
"I Didn't Bother."  :D
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Post by: 'lance on July 16, 2006, 04:45:58 PM
That's it! While putting off writing my Chilean magnum opus, I'll re-write "My Way" as "I Didn't Bother."

Watch this space, or similar.
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Post by: Debra on July 16, 2006, 05:59:49 PM
I am about to have a cup of tea and a fern tart hmmm fern tarts.

Not to be confused with Fern Hill, who may well be a tart in her own right...*runs away laughing manically* :duck
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on July 16, 2006, 07:02:23 PM
Excuse me?

Fern may be a little tipsy from time to time. (http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/dd.gif)

But she, madam, is no tart.
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Post by: anne cameron on July 16, 2006, 08:59:23 PM
And you would know this how?
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on July 16, 2006, 09:25:18 PM
Empirical evidence, annie darlin', empirical evidence.

Firstly, she drank her way out of our cheap-laffs duel.  And while I was primed to meet her challenge, I couldn't in good conscience take advantage of her inebriation.

fern hill to gunnar gunnarson: Ya want a piece of this? (http://www.breadnroses.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=616)

And secondly, the poor dear was good enough to bring me a cuppa java when I got here.
Quote from: fern hill
Hey, gunnar, here:  :coffee

Duel or no, I'll speak for the quality of her character any time.
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Post by: Debra on July 16, 2006, 09:30:50 PM
But Gunnar, one can be a quality tart..no?
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on July 16, 2006, 10:04:52 PM
Quote from: Debra
I am about to have a cup of tea and a fern tart hmmm fern tarts.

Not to be confused with Fern Hill, who may well be a tart in her own right...*runs away laughing manically* :duck


Are you suggesting that your maniacal laughter and gratuitous reference to waterfowl were intended to imply the possiblity of "quality tartitude?"

If so, the nuance was lost on me.

And furthermore (as 'lance would say):  harrumph.
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Post by: Debra on July 16, 2006, 10:13:55 PM
uh oh they're on to me............ Look over there--->>>> :bunny

*runs away again*
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Post by: anne cameron on July 17, 2006, 02:15:19 AM
Empirical evidence?  Whose empire?
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Post by: aRoused on July 17, 2006, 04:13:26 AM
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Even the original (and pretty despairing) "Comme D'Habitude" was better than "My Way." Blech.

Redeemed when it was covered by a Mr. Vicious?
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Post by: skdadl on July 17, 2006, 08:57:15 AM
I just scrubbed off the rubber ducky.  

Take a bath at my place, and you get a rubber ducky. Not that you can take a bath at my place (no bath), but even in the shower, you get a rubber ducky. Now, with no mildew!   :duck
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Post by: fern hill on July 17, 2006, 09:09:18 AM
We have some weird things in common, skdadl. You get a rubber ducky at my place too. But now that I think of it, I haven't seen it in a while. It's probably under my bathtub -- my big old claw-footed bathtub *skdadl goes looking for envious smiley*.
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Post by: skdadl on July 17, 2006, 09:11:20 AM
She has a bathtub! No fair!

I want a bathtub too. If fern hill can have a bathtub, I wanna bathtub!
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Post by: fern hill on July 17, 2006, 09:14:12 AM
Heh. You can come over and take a bath. Bring your own rubber ducky, though. (That's why I bought it. Nephew's parents had shower only for a while; he'd come over to take a bath and I figured he needed a rubber ducky.)
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Post by: 'lance on July 17, 2006, 02:15:09 PM
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Even the original (and pretty despairing) "Comme D'Habitude" was better than "My Way." Blech.
Redeemed when it was covered by a Mr. Vicious?


I admit to sort of liking that version, if only because Sid brought a certain swagger to it, though I'd never sit and listen to it these days.

Sinatra hated rock 'n' roll -- or at least he did when it first hit the charts -- and likely hated punk still more. But I've read somewhere that nonetheless, he appreciated Sid's version for its swagger and chutzpah.

Naturally, I can't now find an online source for this.
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Post by: fern hill on July 17, 2006, 03:02:04 PM
I have to go out. I need milk, vegetables, and probably other stuff. I need to check my real mail box to see if there is a real cheque in there (please, Cheque God). But I've spent all day so far sitting in front of a fan, and while it's driving me a little nuts with the wisps of hair blowing around my face, I don't want to move.

And if there is a cheque (please, CG), then I'll have to go farther, to the bank machine to deposit it in my decidedly anemic bank account. The closest bank machine is at Spadina and Dundas and I don't think I can get there without passing at least one of those mad-busy Chinese vegetable stores that spill onto the sidewalk with zillions of people jostling for cheap bok choy. The thought of brushing up against someone makes me cringe. I am sticky. Everyone is sticky.

On a brighter note, I'm just about done indexing the radical social work book. Which is a good thing, because there is another book coming Wednesday. Which is also a good thing for bank account, but I want to go up north with sweetie Sometime this summer.

Oh, what am I doing? Kvetching.
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Post by: skdadl on July 17, 2006, 03:05:27 PM
I went out this morning. It was awful then. Like, rilly awful. I think it has only got worse since.

Did I mention it was awful. You are going to have a terrible time, fern hill.

I'm taking my revenge because I am now three hours away from HGTD (house guest touchdown), and I still have to do cat boxes and kitchen to look even halfway respectable.
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Post by: fern hill on July 17, 2006, 03:16:05 PM
Mean, very mean, skdadl. I have zero sympathy for you. You've got AIR CONDITIONING and you're running it and you don't even feel guilty.

When I get back, I'm going to lie in my big old claw-footed BATHTUB.

So there.
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Post by: skdadl on July 17, 2006, 03:20:45 PM
fern hill, I'm about to say something that will ... hurt your feelings!   :evil:
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 17, 2006, 03:23:51 PM
I'm trying to keep warm without turning on the heaters. The basement computer room is frigid. If I cracked an egg on the floor, it'd probably freeze. I'm going to wear a sweater next time I come down here to work.
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Post by: fern hill on July 17, 2006, 03:33:46 PM
Psst, everybody in Canada's new tropical zone, don't you just want to hit Boom Boom? Let's go up there, hit him, then lie on his basement floor. :D
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Post by: deBeauxOs on July 17, 2006, 03:50:39 PM
Ahhh, but remember fern, those black flies that torment him ... the price he pays for a chilly basement.  :shock:
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Post by: fern hill on July 17, 2006, 03:52:15 PM
Right. I did forget about the blackflies. Never mind. Boom Boom, we're not coming up to hit you until blackfly season is over.
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 17, 2006, 06:00:56 PM
Quote from: fern hill
Right. I did forget about the blackflies. Never mind. Boom Boom, we're not coming up to hit you until blackfly season is over.


That would be December, when the snow starts.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: 'lance on July 17, 2006, 06:02:49 PM
You're saying that unlike the rest of Canada, where the seasons are winter and construction, your seasons are winter and blackflies?

Oy!
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 17, 2006, 07:18:09 PM
Quote from: 'lance
You're saying that unlike the rest of Canada, where the seasons are winter and construction, your seasons are winter and blackflies?


That sounds about right.  :party1
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Post by: sparqui on July 17, 2006, 11:35:16 PM
Hmmmm, I guess that makes Winnipeg's seasons: winter, mosquitoes and construction :-)
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on July 17, 2006, 11:49:01 PM
Oy.

So the kid and I just shlepped out to Home Despot looking for an air conditioner.  Of course the only affordable models are either out of stock or way the hell across town at another location.  So we brought home a big-ass fan and have been taking showers and standing in front of it.  

In other words: Who'd have thought a little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness! (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6396/ozsound5.wav)
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 18, 2006, 12:34:36 AM
Couldn't sleep - somehow it got quite warm upstairs. I had all the windows closed because of the rain, and I guess the appliances (freezer, fridge) are generating enough heat to warm up the house. Here, downstairs, it's very cool but comfy. More rain on the way:
http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/city/page ... ric_e.html (http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/city/pages/qc-125_metric_e.html)  

(where would I find an umbrella/smiley?)
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Post by: skdadl on July 21, 2006, 10:13:13 AM
I have to schlep all the way across town to the Beach(es) for lunch at a friend's, and I am having an attack of agoraphobia.

Tell me the world is ok and means me no harm.
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Post by: Debra on July 21, 2006, 10:40:19 AM
You will have a wonderful lunch, great conversation and be glad you went. And there is always the option of taking a cab, or feigning illness.  :wink:
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Post by: chester on July 21, 2006, 11:28:52 AM
the world means you no harm, skdadl.  maybe this will help:  the beaches is a beautiful place!  i'm imagining you strolling down queen east, buying a coffee and then walking down one of those leafy streets leading down to the beasch and the lake.  wish i was there.
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Post by: fern hill on July 21, 2006, 11:45:53 AM
Yeesh, the beach (or is it beaches?). The twee-est nabe in Toronto. Watch out for the monster SUV-like strollers, sdkadl! They do not mean you well.
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Post by: chester on July 21, 2006, 12:00:36 PM
despite the hordes of yuppies, the Beaches is a beautiful neighbourhood.  but yes skdadl do look out for shiny new suv missles and even if their occupants mean you no harm, their ignarance could be painful :)
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Post by: Tommy Shanks on July 21, 2006, 01:50:39 PM
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Yeesh, the beach (or is it beaches?).


It's "The Beach". There is only one after all.

My mom, who had Grandparents and other family on Wheeler, Wineva, and Beech Ave's (although the Beech crowd were somewhat annoying, so we didn't see them much), insists you can tell if someone is new to the neighbourhood (meaning having lived there less then 15 years) if they call it "the Beaches". She regards them as sort of 21st-century carpetbaggers.

Of course, my dad not caring about all this insisted when they married that they decamp just west (like by a couple of streets) of the Beach. She's still chuffed.
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Post by: skdadl on July 22, 2006, 06:54:29 AM
Quote from: chester
the world means you no harm, skdadl.  maybe this will help:  the beaches is a beautiful place!  i'm imagining you strolling down queen east, buying a coffee and then walking down one of those leafy streets leading down to the beasch and the lake.  wish i was there.


Gee. If only, Chester.   :wink:

For me, that unbelievably long ride on the subway to The Main is part of the hard part. I know that that is regressive and spoiled of me, but the thought of making the return trip when I am exhausted (as I always am) kind of ruins the journey out.

If only we were doing groovy Beach(es) things -- but no, this is an annual command performance at a private home, and while the food was superb and the friends very kind, I just know that it is always going to stretch out over five hours, and I cannot survive five hours of anything much without going hairy.

Cultures are funny, aren't they? Some people are very much into the sitting-around-for-hours-domestically scene, and others mainly meet for an hour or two at a resto. I seem to be firmly in camp B. I'm sure this is a weakness if not a sin on my part, but I can't help it. I get jumpy.

I was so happy to get home. I can't tell you.

Worse news, though. Tonight: family! Gee: normally I have no social life at all, but this has been a bad week for it.
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Post by: Debra on July 22, 2006, 08:14:47 AM
Family  :shock: shall I send the pirates?  :piratedance or maybe the bunnies could form a protective line  :bunny  :bunny  :bunny  :bunny  :bunny  :bunny  :bunny

Good luck!
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Post by: skdadl on July 22, 2006, 10:03:40 AM
Well, distraction is usually heavy enough artillery for the family, so send the bunny conga line.   :wink:

"Leave 'em laughing when you go ..."
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Post by: fern hill on July 26, 2006, 02:25:46 PM
I've just zipped another index to the publisher and now I'm getting ready to go out and get a birthday present for sweetie, whose birthday is this weekend. And some of you may remember what that signals -- the opening of the window for our nuptials (we agreed on sometime between his b-day and mine, mid-Nov.).

I'm following the Matchmaking thread with some interest, being a fiancée m'self.  :wink:
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Post by: skdadl on July 26, 2006, 02:28:21 PM
fern hill, I can be ready in hours.  :)
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Post by: Debra on July 26, 2006, 02:30:42 PM
Have you picked up the latest issue of Wedding Bells?  :duck
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Post by: fern hill on July 26, 2006, 02:31:19 PM
We need two witnesses. Any other volunteers? And, since it the bride's big day, I'm insisting on Hats. Everyone has to wear a Hat. You OK with that skdadl?
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Post by: skdadl on July 26, 2006, 02:33:42 PM
Oh, man, am I into hats or what?

Yee hee hee hee ...    :wink:
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Post by: skdadl on July 26, 2006, 02:36:00 PM
My kinda hat. (http://www.fastnfab.org/Photos/assorted%20photos/banana.jpg)
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Post by: fern hill on July 26, 2006, 02:41:53 PM
Quote from: Debra
Have you picked up the latest issue of Wedding Bells?  :duck


Funny/sad story. Sweetie works with photographers. Just about the time his marriage was going postal, a photog-pal asked him if he'd model a tuxedo for a fashion shoot for Wedding Bells. You should see the photo. It could go in a dictionary as an illustration for 'ambivalent'.

Hats: skdadl, have you been to Lilliput (just west of Bathurst on College)? Deee-vine hats. You know, the kind of hats you gotta have chutzpah to wear.

Added after I saw skd's kind of hat: Yeah. Chutzpah like that.
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Post by: Debra on July 26, 2006, 02:50:05 PM
Is the banana for the honeymoon?
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 26, 2006, 03:05:41 PM
After a nice hot bath :bath this morning I was out exploring :working the back forty in the rain :rain:, wanted to bike :bike for a while but have been busy all day :blahblah. Brought a Cornish hen for dinner tomorrow. :eat
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Post by: Debra on July 26, 2006, 03:08:47 PM
a rebus story a rebus story!!
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 26, 2006, 05:42:27 PM
Quote from: Debra
a rebus story a rebus story!!


Heh. I'll have more rebus stories for y'all if I can find a gardening smiley. :P  What, no gardening smileys? :cry:
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Post by: Debra on July 26, 2006, 05:57:55 PM
Never fear..... :Garden1  :garden
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Post by: skdadl on July 26, 2006, 06:11:33 PM
I have to go to the doctor tomorrow. I'm getting depressed and anxious already -- for no good reason, of course, but this stirs up my agoraphobia all over again.

I guess I should go and lay out the clothes and everything. I will be overprepared hours beforehand. God, I hate being medicalized more than anything else on earth, even more than Stephen Harper, and that's going some.
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Post by: brebis noire on July 26, 2006, 06:20:33 PM
Aw, skdadl.  :hug  There are lots of good reasons to be anxious and depressed these days.

But maybe you can help us with this dilemma? My son asked me the other day which guy he should hate more: George Bush or Stephen Harper. For the moment, he's decided that George is the one, but sometimes we're not sure if it's better to hate the more powerful guy who lives far away and hurts lots of people or the smaller and weaker one in your own neighbourhood...
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 26, 2006, 06:47:42 PM
Quote from: Debra
Never fear..... :Garden1  :garden


Debra rules! :D
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 26, 2006, 07:02:19 PM
Halfway through the afternoon I got bck to some serious house and garage cleaning. :working The former owners were very laid back, didn't let dust bother them. :blahblah I weeded the garden a bit, got a new garden hose that finally reaches the garden, and will be able to look after it properly, now. :Garden1  Need more grass seed.
:stonerflak  Going for a walk soon. :penguin1 Peace out. :peacea
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Post by: skdadl on July 27, 2006, 06:00:35 AM
Aw, brebis noire -- the dear little boy. I hate to think that I am a hater, and I hate to think that we can't talk sincerely to children about turning hatred aside, and mean it ...  I guess I need some practice in doing that m'self lately.

I'm sure that hatred is not the answer. We do not want to become what we behold. What the answer is, though ... that I cannot tell you.
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Post by: brebis noire on July 27, 2006, 07:19:10 AM
Well, discussing foreign policy and recent history with an 8-year-old is definitely a challenge for me. I don't exactly force this stuff on him, and the TV news is almost never on, so he doesn't get the brunt of images - but it doesn't take much - a glimpse of a photo on the Internet, a cartoon drawing of Bush as a chimp, a few loud adult conversations here and there. I think it's the emotion of my reaction to this that he keys into, especially as it's a huge issue of contention in my family, everyone seems to be politicized.

I'm not at all comfortable with the hate either, not to mention the distribution of blame and responsibility, but he brings it up, and he's familiar with schoolyard bullies and TV cartoons, so that's where he takes it. I guess he's not wrong to hate someone powerful who has responsibility for these things, and I like to think that history will someday validate these early emotional reactions.
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Post by: on July 27, 2006, 01:12:43 PM
hey skdadl, did you survive the doctor's visit okay? Or was it as bad as you feared?
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Post by: skdadl on July 27, 2006, 01:17:09 PM
I'm just on my way, eph.

Pray for me. And it has been ever so nice knowing you. I love you guys. I have mentioned you all in my will.  :)

Pray hard.   :wink:
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Post by: on July 27, 2006, 01:27:12 PM
Quote from: skdadl
I have mentioned you all in my will.  :)


I'll take Tildie.

Good luck, skdadl. I am keeping all my fingers and toes crossed fer ya.
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Post by: 'lance on July 27, 2006, 01:30:35 PM
Wot eph said. All the best.

And put me down for the Lagavulin, won't you, skdadl?
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Post by: skdadl on July 27, 2006, 03:35:43 PM
Sorry. I survived, so you're all disinherited. For now.

Silly woman. She thinks I'm healthy. She even thought my lungs sounded good. Just goes to show how gullible doctors are, eh?

Mind you, there's a line-up to get at me -- another doctor, the dentist (who is gonna yell at me -- she is the only one who takes a really close look), and then all the results to phone in for ...  

'lance, I fear that the Lagavulin has somehow ... gosh, I don't know what could have happened to it ... so how's about I put you down for the Glenmorangie?
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Post by: 'lance on July 27, 2006, 04:35:59 PM
Quote from: skdadl
'lance, I fear that the Lagavulin has somehow ... gosh, I don't know what could have happened to it ... so how's about I put you down for the Glenmorangie?


Sigh. O very well. Just so long as it was put to good use, and it wasn't a case of someone just forgetting to replace the cork or some such. I mean the angels already get their share, while the stuff is ageing in porous oak barrels, yes?
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Post by: fern hill on July 27, 2006, 04:41:07 PM
I go for my annual check-up on Monday. My doc has a machine that tests lung power. You blow as hard as you can into a cardboard tube connected to a machine with pen that marks how your lungs are doing. Every year before the lung test, he asks me if I'm still smoking . Yup. Then I blow into the tube and he looks at the reading. Every year he gets pissed off coz my lungs are good. :wink:
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Post by: deBeauxOs on July 27, 2006, 05:07:55 PM
Quote from: fern hill
... Every year he gets pissed off coz my lungs are good. :wink:
 Well, it's not like a pee test where you can try to substitute someone else's urine for yours ... so far, so good, fern ...  8)
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Post by: skdadl on July 27, 2006, 05:13:40 PM
Just wait for the dentist.

The doctors don't know nuffin'. Unless I complain, the doctors don't take long, don't look very closely, and accept unquestioningly the all-purpose Canadian answer: "Oh, I'm fine. Fine. I feel fine."  *superficial smiley*

It's the dentist who knows. She gets close up and personal for about an hour, and by the end of that hour, she knows every immoral thing I've done for the last nine months, and she will ream me out about all of them, mercilessly.

I have to steel myself to make that appointment. *shudder*
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Post by: 'lance on July 27, 2006, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Just wait for the dentist.

The doctors don't know nuffin'. Unless I complain, the doctors don't take long, don't look very closely, and accept unquestioningly the all-purpose Canadian answer: "Oh, I'm fine. Fine. I feel fine."  


A quack I once went to asked how I was, and when I said "fine" he deadpanned: "Well then, get out."

Groucho Marx he wasn't, but I had to laugh anyway.
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Post by: skdadl on July 27, 2006, 05:34:08 PM
Well, that's the thing -- she gets me tied down there, immobilized and inarticulate, and then she proceeds to tell me what she can detect from my gullet and the quality of my skin and all. And there's nothing I can say but *gurgle gurgle*

My dentist has made an intensive study of the immune system, and she sizes everyone up with her eagle eye in a way that I have never seen an MD do. The worst part of it is that she is always right. I can't stand that. The MDs never know until you tell them. The dentist is like a Presbyterian minister: she KNOWS; she sees into your black li'l soul, and she demands repentance! Nothing less.

Sheesh. I'm scaring myself.   :wink:
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Post by: on July 27, 2006, 05:34:58 PM
Decompressing.

We've had a series of houseguests, culminating with the challenge of feeding, housing and getting 8 people (in two families) to the airport in the past 24 hours.

Great people, and we love them dearly, but...oof!
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Post by: skdadl on July 27, 2006, 05:41:09 PM
Stephen, I can so identify ... and yet did you not have that moment, when you got back to your now liberated house, when you looked in the now empty guest room and suddenly felt ... bereft?

That always used to happen to me when the cousins left. By the end of a tumultuous visit, I would be thinking how liberated I would feel as they left ... and yet all the rest of that day I would feel the emptiness.

We are such odd creatures of habit. Well: I am, anyway.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on July 27, 2006, 06:00:19 PM
Quote from: Diane Demorney
Eye doctors and dentists... yup... those puppies see and know everything. They can tell how you ACTUALLY are, simply because they get up close and personal. ...
This is problematic, actually.  Physicians used to be trained to use all their senses when assessing their patients health condition.  Now only the specialists do.  Dentists, physiotherapists.  Unfortunately now even RNs are being brainwashed into believing that bedside care is a thing of the past, that technology is the be-all and end-all to health care.  It seems that even the Canadian Nurses Association is mesmerized (http://www.cna-nurses.ca/CNA/news/releases/public_release_e.aspx?id=205) by emerging technology.
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Post by: on July 28, 2006, 02:12:15 AM
[quote="skdadl"Silly woman. She thinks I'm healthy. She even thought my lungs sounded good. Just goes to show how gullible doctors are, eh?[/quote]

ephemeral frowns at skdadl - tsk tsk - shakes her head - wags her finger. Don't be a silly patootie, skdadl.
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Post by: Alix on July 28, 2006, 08:22:32 AM
I am struggling with the conclusion for my final paper for my M.A. for the third day in a row.

I have discovered this year that I am terrible at writing conclusions.
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Post by: Caissa on July 28, 2006, 08:25:57 AM
So what's the problem, Alix? Deciding when to end? Summing up the evidence and argument?
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Post by: Alix on July 28, 2006, 08:34:53 AM
Well, people have been telling me for the last few years that my conclusions sound like introductions, so I've taken to writing the paper, then taking the conclusion and putting it at the start.

Which works for the introduction. But leaves me with very little for the conclusion.

The rest of the paper is done, and my advisor is fine with everything except the conclusion.

I'm just not sure what I'm missing that will make my conclusions sound less like introductions.
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Post by: Caissa on July 28, 2006, 08:44:04 AM
It often helps to write your introduction last, as we often flesh out our argument and understand its nuances through the act of writing. Conclusions can vary depending upon the academic discipline.My first year history prof described the essay thus, "Tell them what you will do, do it, tell them what you have done." What discipline are you writing within? What's the purpose of your essay? Explanatory? Argumentative? Does your essay suggest areas of further inquiry?-
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Post by: Alix on July 28, 2006, 08:53:16 AM
It is a history essay. I've got about a two page conclusion right now, but I'm still not happy with it, and my advisor isn't either. The rest of the paper she is (I'm currently on draft #8 ).

The essay is examining a religious girl's organization in Canada in the interwar period, and trying to take a tack that is neither condemnatory nor uncritically laudatory. (The sparse existing literature on this organization tends to be one of the other.) Without going into too much detail about it, I'm using the field of lived religion to examine how the organization defined ideal womanhood, and the ways in which this message was often contradictory.
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Post by: skdadl on July 28, 2006, 08:54:32 AM
Caissa's questions are good ones -- as well, Alix, does the study that you've done point to anything further? That often makes for upbeat conclusions.
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Post by: lagatta on July 28, 2006, 08:55:28 AM
You don't want to know.

I'm sitting in a shady, vine-covered patio in Perugia, sipping white wine. Some young leftist people are having a meeting for a global justice event. I'm just listening for the time being (though later, I will have to interpret).

Not today.  8)
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Post by: skdadl on July 28, 2006, 08:57:26 AM
Oh, you lucky duck. I am so jealous.   :twisted:

What have you been eating/seeing/strolling about to? And how is the weather?
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Post by: Caissa on July 28, 2006, 08:58:00 AM
Good advice from skadl, Alix. Interesting topic. How did the organization square the contradictions? If you wanted to PM the conclusion to me I'd be happy to look at it, if you think that might be helpful.
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Post by: Caissa on July 28, 2006, 09:13:31 AM
Good advice from skadl, Alix. Interesting topic. How did the organization square the contradictions? If you wanted to PM the conclusion to me I'd be happy to look at it, if you think that might be helpful.
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Post by: fern hill on July 28, 2006, 12:02:31 PM
Wrapping birthday presents. My sweetie is the best present-disguiser. One xmas, I asked for a non-stick frying pan. Imagine my disappointment as I examined my wrapped presents and saw nothing like a frying pan. Sweetie had unscrewed the handle and put it in a square box. Another time he stuffed a down vest into a coffee can and wrapped that. Me, I'm not so good. I just wrapped a CD in bubble-wrap and then wrapped that. It's still squarish though. Sheesh. Another gift I cleverly put in a box. See? Not so good.
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Post by: brebis noire on July 28, 2006, 12:05:37 PM
Quote
Imagine my disappointment as I examined my wrapped presents and saw nothing like a frying pan.


 :|  Sorry, but I cannot.
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Post by: skdadl on July 28, 2006, 04:21:51 PM
What'm I doing? I am fiddling around, trying to talk myself into changing the cat boxes. There is a monsoon underway outside -- at least that means I can't worry about weeding this evening.

I don't know what to do about supper. Maybe I'll eat some of those nice crunchy little salmon bones.
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Post by: fern hill on July 28, 2006, 04:27:16 PM
No kidding about the monsoon, eh? This is like Florida where the locals joke that you can set your watch by the daily afternoon rain. I've gotta go out. I have no vegetables. I'm gonna get wet.
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Post by: Debra on July 28, 2006, 04:33:17 PM
I am wondering if I can get a film maker to come to the house since we seem to have a horror show going on right now.

My cupboards are full of carpenter ants and the rest of the house is full of flies.

I have three bites on my foot from the ants.  :rant2
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Post by: 'lance on July 28, 2006, 04:36:32 PM
Lately I've taken up swimming again, and have been going to this nice outdoor pool in Kitsilano (a salt-water pool too).

But we need rain here, and I'm hoping for it, even though I'd have to postpone my swim. Wouldn't want to get wet, after all.

Quote from: Debra
My cupboards are full of carpenter ants and the rest of the house is full of flies.


Strange name for them, if -- as I'm guessing -- they chew through wooden things instead of building them.
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Post by: skdadl on July 28, 2006, 04:56:27 PM
Debra, I can't promise anything, but remember when I had the tiny ants? I tried the dryer-sheet solution -- place dryer sheets around the edges of cupboards or floors where you think they're coming in -- and that worked. Either that or the season changed.

Mind you, the dryer sheets are vile. The ones I got have the worst perfume in them -- I don't blame the ants for leaving.
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Post by: skdadl on July 28, 2006, 04:58:05 PM
PS: The sky here now, after that amazing downpour, is utterly blue, empty of clouds (maybe a little hazy).

Ha ha ha, fern hill. You went too soon, you silly goose.  :lol:
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Post by: fern hill on July 28, 2006, 05:06:05 PM
Ha ha, back atcha. No, I didn't.
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 28, 2006, 06:00:18 PM
Nothing happening here. (http://nofilter.splinder.com/editor/fck/editor/images/smiley/rhymbox-1.0/bandit.gif)
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Post by: anne cameron on July 28, 2006, 06:24:21 PM
What we call carpenter ants are black, hard-shelled, about half an inch long and come in uncountable swarms.  Vacuum'em up!  And put something over the end of the hose so they can't walk back out again...the only thing that approaches them for gross are the "flying red ants", which are termites, they swarm in, almost flying in formation, and when they land they drop their wings and set about gnawing everything in sight.  vacuum them up, too!  We don't have cockroaches, I had my first encounter with them in Toronto and can't imagine having to live with them as a constant reality.  Someone down the street from us was reno'ing a house, pulling the entire inside of it apart and I guess the roaches didn't like the noise or something, they swarmed out of the house and down the sidewalk, some of them came into our place, landlord nearly flipped out!  But Mrs Landlord had the solution, she got boric powder, put it around the baseboards, around the sink, etc., and the little fuckers were gone in no time flat..seems they scuttle through with all their busy little legs kicking up boric powder dust and then they breathe it in and die of emphysema.  And I'm sorry, the whole idea hit my funny bone, the mental image of them coughing their lives away in a sanitorium in the mountains gave me the giggles.  

One year the black carpenter ants swarmed so badly we wound up putting up the tent on top of the bed and sleeping inside it because the little fuckers were falling from the ceiling, landing on the bed and then biting us.  So for a week we slept in a pup tent on top of the bed, hearing the little clicks as the hard-shelled bastards landed all around us.  It made a whole new appreciation of Hitchcock's "The Birds"!!
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Post by: Gigi on July 28, 2006, 06:46:21 PM
Iew.  I wonder if that would be worse than the disgusting caterpillar cycles we had up north.  Carpenter ants bite, after all, whereas the tent caterpillars just went *squish* and made you slide around...
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Post by: Toedancer on July 28, 2006, 07:10:40 PM
I have those ants too Debra. I hate them.

Last night while just sitting on couch going thru books I'm reading, gonna read, making piles and such, a huge bat just flew thru the front porch into the room! (had all the doors opened) I shreiked and pulled the dog blanket over my head cos it was swooping around me. My Aussie went under the coffee table. My disabled SO got the broom. I ran to the front porch and shut door. I could hear him batting the thing. Finally he killed it and sent it flying out the back kitchen door with the broom. Shithead saw it flying overhead and pounced on the dead thing.

Then gotta call brother-in-law was in hospital in Hamilton, getting a tumour removed from his colon. He just had a clean bill of health from his physician. The bloody idiot. It was benign, thank gawd. His SO got a room there, complete with tv, phone, food fridge. She's watching the Sports channels, so she can update him when he comes out of it. OHIP covers.

Had my teeth cleaned yesterday and they found a crack in tooth which they must fix immediately (my chewing side). I get VALIUM first, cos I am a very bad dentist patient. Yay! I made it all up cos I hate needles, so now I get valium, laughing gas and the needle. Ha!

Right now I am sipping wine. Hee-hee.
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 28, 2006, 07:37:24 PM
North Bay shadflies. The streets are paved with them in the spring - or used to be.
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Post by: steffie on July 28, 2006, 07:53:42 PM
Yes, and it's summer that shads really infest our city.  This year they were persistent, staying even after "the big storm", IIRC.
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Post by: fern hill on July 29, 2006, 08:01:45 AM
Hee. I just made an index entry for 'penis, size of'. In a chapter on sex and gender in a sociology book, the author speaks of sex reassignment based on the appearance of an infant's genitals. 'Surgeons consider the condition of a micro-penis so detrimental to a male's morale that reassignment as a female is justified on this basis alone.' Italics in orginal.
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 29, 2006, 01:22:30 PM
MPIX (on TMN) started showing 48 hours of Hitchcock at 6am today, I won't be able to sit through all of it, but I'm watching what I can. I think Psycho starts in thirty minutes, followed by The Birds.  :panic
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Post by: skdadl on July 29, 2006, 02:55:50 PM
Ooh. I must watch for some of that.

Psycho and The Birds I've probably seen often enough -- what have I already missed?

Probably better not to watch Strangers on a Train before I go to bed, boy. But I wouldn't mind a touch of North by Northwest.
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 29, 2006, 04:03:40 PM
I just missed Strangers On A Train - was out in the bush transplanting trees to my property, and the heat (72F) and humidity darned near killed me. :(  The Lady Vanishes is on now, followed by Saboteur. Darn - I missed The 39 Steps this afternoon while I was out. Coming up tonight: Lifeboat,  Psycho, The Birds, I Confess,  Shadow Of A Doubt, and Young and Innocent.

Tomorrow morning starts with Topaz. :)
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Post by: fern hill on July 29, 2006, 06:36:35 PM
Woo. Now that hasn't happened in a long time. I'm at sweetie's and a new neighbour came in. I hadn't met him before so sweetie introduced us. Nice lookin' fella in his 30s. Checked me out. Seriously. I got kinda fluttery. Is it me, or is it hot in here?
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Post by: 'lance on July 29, 2006, 06:40:03 PM
Well I can't answer that, fern hill, but since buddy was checking you out, evidently it's you that's hot in there.
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Post by: fern hill on July 29, 2006, 06:46:05 PM
Thanks, 'lance. This being over 50 is weird. I'm usually invisible and while it was kinda hard to get used to, now I am used to it, so this kinda thing is, well, fluttery-making.
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 30, 2006, 10:30:17 AM
Watching Hitchcock's films, you really see actors just getting into their prime - Hume Cronym in Lifeboat (1942), Shirley MacLaine (her first film) in The Trouble With Harry (1955) and Jessica Tandy (with streaks of grey hair already) in The Birds (1963).  I'm skipping over The Man Who Knew Too Much and taking a break until Vertigo starts up in an hour from now.
A Hitchcock film fest can turn you into a couch potato if you don't get up once in a while.  The Trouble With Harry was hilarious, btw.

After Vertigo, MPIX is showing Marnie, Torn Curtain, Dial "M" For Murder, Rear Window, Rope, Frenzy, Family Plot, and, then, A Talk With Hitchcock. The only two I've never seen are Rope and Family Plot, and I guess I won't see them this time around - they're on too late for me. :(
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Post by: fern hill on July 30, 2006, 10:33:20 AM
Hey, Boom Boom, we seem to have this place to ourselves. I think people can read but can't log on. Ya wanna torture somebody? We could slag cats and cat-people, ferinstance, and they can't reply.  :twisted:

Edited to add: *muttermutter* Wouldn't ya just know it? My chance to stir some pots and the only other potential fellow-stirrer is BB, one of BnR's nicest people. Wouldn't stir a pot if it was boiling over. Why couldn't it have been Gigi or deBeauxOs or gunnar? *muttermutter*
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 30, 2006, 02:51:28 PM
Quote from: fern hill
Edited to add: *muttermutter* Wouldn't ya just know it? My chance to stir some pots and the only other potential fellow-stirrer is BB, one of BnR's nicest people.


Oh, stop. :oops:  blush, blush, blush.

Meanwhile, I just finished watching Vertigo on the Hitchcock-fest on MPIX (on TMN). I've forgotten how erotic that movie is. First, the star is gorgeous Kim Novak, she with the big you-know-whats that shake, rattle and roll all during the movie. In the movie she plays Madeline and alter-ego Carlotta, and then criminal conspirator Judy. At one point she "falls" (jumps, really) into San Franciso Bay, and our hero Jimmy Stewart rescues her, takes her (she's married in the film) back to his apartment, and although we don't see this bit, undresses her and puts her in his bed, her wet clothes hanging in his kitchen. Well. Excuse me while I take a cold shower.  :oops:

Now what 's this about cats, you say? :lol:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 30, 2006, 02:59:01 PM
Vertigo is one that I simply cannot watch, Boom Boom. I don't know what it is about that movie, but it leaves me so deeply depressed I can barely speak afterwards. I will never watch it again. I hate even to remember it.

Strangers scares the living daylights out of me -- Vertigo just makes me feel suicidal.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 30, 2006, 03:28:27 PM
Wish me luck. I'm going out to see if an old broad can still do a semi/illegal (?)deal for smoking materials -- tobacco, tobacco. I think I've got the pass-word and secret handshake right this time.
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Post by: skdadl on July 30, 2006, 03:40:14 PM
fern hill: the geese fly low at midnight; I repeat: the geese fly low at midnight.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on July 30, 2006, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Vertigo is one that I simply cannot watch, Boom Boom. I don't know what it is about that movie, but it leaves me so deeply depressed I can barely speak afterwards. I will never watch it again. I hate even to remember it.

Strangers scares the living daylights out of me -- Vertigo just makes me feel suicidal.


But Vertigo wasn't about suicide at all - it's a great murder mystery with a drop-dead-gorgeous female lead (Kim Novak). In the end, she throws herself out of the church tower because the jig was up for her, and she'd rather die than face the music.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 30, 2006, 03:46:59 PM
Boom Boom, I know all that. I'm just telling you that it depresses me out of my skull. It is perhaps the most depressing movie I have ever seen. I refuse to watch it again.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on July 30, 2006, 03:50:31 PM
Well, you could watch it with me and I'll hold your hand and guide you through the thing with my pithy observations. I'll refrain from commenting on the Twin Peaks and Mountains of Mayhem when the camera zooms in on Kim Novak. :twisted:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 30, 2006, 03:53:27 PM
Old broad reporting: Rats. I was in the right place, but the right person wasn't. I'm going to try one more time then accept the fact that I must be a law-abiding old broad.
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Post by: skdadl on July 30, 2006, 03:58:32 PM
Well, soon this law-abiding old broad is going to have to hoof it down the street to her connection, aka the corner store, where she will pay MARKET PRICE! And the password won't work there, either, although there will be some nice neighbourly talk, which is worth quite a bit.

Boom Boom, I appreciate the offer, but if you were watching Vertigo, I would be out planting a tree or something.
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 30, 2006, 05:16:32 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Boom Boom, I appreciate the offer, but if you were watching Vertigo, I would be out planting a tree or something.


Considering when these films were made, Marnie and Torn Curtain aren't bad. I just finished watching both, and, while I remember reading that Paul Newman and Julie Andrews didn't enjoy each other much, and that Hitchcock couldn't stand Andrew's 'method acting', Torn Curtain is, despite some negative reviews,  actually quite watchable - at least halfway through, when the action picks up, and right to the end. I imagine the first time people watched this film, they were hanging on the edge of their seats wondering if the Newman and Andrews characters would escape at the end. I won't give it away if you haven't seen it. Marnie has a very young Sean Connery and the beautiful Tippi Hedren as stars. It's a bit over-acted, but, overall, another Hitchcock grand slam - remember, this was made 40 years ago.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 31, 2006, 04:44:00 AM
What'm I doing? Oh, I'm just sitting here, reading news of fresh disasters and scaring myself when I fiddle around with my computer settings. Won't try that again soon. Thought I had wrecked my DSL connection for a bit, but then I tried the old reboot routine, and that worked. Don't panic, skdadl; we make mistakes when we're upset ...

Since BnR is still apparently having tech probs, I guess I'll just sit here and talk to myself at great and boring length. I could pay fern hill back for her spamming spasm yesterday, except I love dogs, so tit for tat -- or dog for cat --  won't work. Hmmmn. What to do, what to do ...
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Post by: fern hill on July 31, 2006, 06:11:38 AM
fern hill is prey to short jokes. But, then, she's heard every one at least twice. Good morning, skdadl.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 31, 2006, 06:20:15 AM
Eep! How did you get in here? Who are you, and why are you posting here?   :shock:

Shorty.   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 31, 2006, 06:31:24 AM
Cat lady.  :cat (That's apparently a cat. I thought it was a mouse.)

I have a friend who had moved to a lovely rural home with her partner. When partner died unexpectedly, she came back to the city and got a full-time job. When I asked her why, she said, 'I was afraid I was going to become one of those ladies with cats.'
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Post by: skdadl on July 31, 2006, 06:37:29 AM
rrrrrrrrrrr ... HISS!   :twisted:

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They got little hands
And little eyes
And they walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet
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Post by: Holly Stick on July 31, 2006, 11:01:18 AM
How about short cats? http://www.bambinocats.com/ :D
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Post by: fern hill on July 31, 2006, 11:24:17 AM
Ewwww. More ugly damn cats.
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Post by: skdadl on July 31, 2006, 11:25:31 AM
Aw, c'mon. They look like ET. Bambino, phone home.
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Post by: Debra on July 31, 2006, 11:39:11 AM
they are so cute and so ugly at the same time. I want one. I'll call him wrinkles.
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Post by: Holly Stick on July 31, 2006, 12:05:18 PM
You prefer short cats with hair?  http://www.shortlegcat.com/ :cat
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Post by: Debra on July 31, 2006, 12:16:26 PM
a wiener cat!!!! get a long little kitty. :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on July 31, 2006, 12:22:25 PM
Call me callous, but the Bambino Cats do nothing for me whatsoever.

Today I am a bum. Slept badly; could have gone to work anyway but decided against it.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 31, 2006, 12:23:45 PM
Were you wearing your sleep mask, 'lance?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on July 31, 2006, 12:24:21 PM
Playing hooky? woohoo 8)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on July 31, 2006, 12:24:38 PM
I'd say that's a rather personal question, wouldn't you, skdadl?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on July 31, 2006, 12:26:32 PM
It is? But you have told us all about your sleep mask before. Remember how I told you I would be afraid to wear one because of Melina Mercouri in Phaedra?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on July 31, 2006, 12:30:29 PM
Yes, I know, I'm just being grumpy today.

Speaking of Greek tragedy, we went to see the Oresteia last week.

I now have Culture, so you better be nice to me today.
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Post by: skdadl on July 31, 2006, 12:31:47 PM
All at one go?!? Heavy, man.   8)
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Post by: 'lance on July 31, 2006, 12:33:02 PM
Well, it was over three nights, dig it. Woulda been a bummer otherwise, don't you know.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on July 31, 2006, 01:01:49 PM
I'm off to get my annual poke'n'prod, aka, medical check-up. The doc is at Finch and Mars, so it'll be about 10 degrees hotter up there. I'm not going to tell him anything; I just hope he doesn't find anything.  :wink:
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Post by: skdadl on July 31, 2006, 01:20:53 PM
Finch?!?   :shock:   Take oxygen.  

Fingers and toes crossed for you, fern hill.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on July 31, 2006, 02:01:22 PM
Today, I peed 17 times, and I learnt a new expression:

It's as slow as molasses in January.
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Post by: Holly Stick on July 31, 2006, 02:06:43 PM
I'm playing hooky in a good cause; I bought a used car last week ('94 Toyota Tercel) and it is getting checked today and having new tires put on.  I had the impression that the seller knew what he was doing mechanically, but have since revised it; four tires all different brands, some filled way too full of air, etc.  I don't really care, as long as the car runs for a year or two; it's lasted this long and I think it will be hard to kill.
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Post by: on July 31, 2006, 02:31:55 PM
I'm at work. [whiny voice]I wanna go home.[/whiny voice]
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Post by: fern hill on July 31, 2006, 04:18:57 PM
Back from the quack. I beat his damn blow-as-hard-as-you-can lung testing machine again.  :D

Everything good. But then there's the alchemy of the blood work to come.
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Post by: Herr Magoo on July 31, 2006, 09:13:00 PM
Oh my Gord.  Those Bambino cats!  "America's Little Sluggers"!!

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Bambinos are recognized as an experimental new breed by The International Cat Association (TICA). Our committed group of breeders will continue to work together to produce healthy Bambino cats.


... but meanwhile, how about a cat that looks like your nylons after you've slid them off onto the floor?  With it's heart in its abdomen, maybe?  Or unable to keep food down?  C'mon... give this little guy a pat on his bald, rat-tail-like widdle tummy!
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Post by: Boom Boom on July 31, 2006, 10:38:21 PM
It's been years since I've seen 1977's Turning Point so I took a break from BnR tonight to watch it again. Gorgeous movie. Mikhail Barysnikov (sp?) was incredible. Anne Bancroft and Shirley MacLaine are always terrific. The music and dancing are to die for.  :dance
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Post by: Holly Stick on August 01, 2006, 12:25:55 AM
Yeah, that was a good one.  I kind of liked White Nights, too, with Baryshnikov and Gregory Hynes, and lots of dancing.
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Post by: Boom Boom on August 01, 2006, 12:58:23 AM
I saw White Nights - long time ago. Would love to see it again. I'll have to pester TMN.ca to show it.  :blahblah
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Post by: lindar on August 01, 2006, 06:56:10 AM
I've been getting up at odd hours lately and tending to go online.  I've heard about sympathetic labour pains but is there "sympathetic jet lag"?

My husband is in China (13 hours ahead in time zone).  Ever since I got up before 4 am to drive him to the airport a few days ago my days and nights have been mixed up and I'm beginning to feel like the guy in the film "Insomnia".

He's gone for almost a month so I hope it sorts itself out.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on August 02, 2006, 04:38:50 PM
As little as possible. I was going to go down to City Hall today and combine two errands: buy some fresh veggies from the farmers that set up there on Wednesdays and pick up marriage application forms. But it's too damn hot.  

I've been screwing around on my current project because it's not due til next week, but the editor just emailed asking if I'd like a proofreading job. I like proofreading. So I gotta hustle up on indexing. Poor me.
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Post by: 'lance on August 02, 2006, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: fern hill
As little as possible.


Likewise. I came back from holidays refreshed and motivated. What a difference a week makes.
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Post by: Holly Stick on August 04, 2006, 07:18:00 PM
This afternoon I have been digesting the best kind of business lunch; tasty food, someone else paid, I get to count the time as hours worked, and the topic discussed was interesting. :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on August 07, 2006, 01:45:46 PM
I'm proofreading a book on geomorphology. I hope I don't offend any geomorphologists, but lordy, it's dull. And it has all kinds of odd words, like pingo and nunatak, that keep me going back to the ms, saying to self 'Is that right?' And I have the joy of knowing I get read it again when I index the bugger.
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Post by: 'lance on August 07, 2006, 11:15:06 PM
I'm making strawberry ice cream. Chilling the mixture, that is.

Quote from: fern hill
... but lordy, it's dull.


... while choking back tears.  :cry:

Ah, well. Yesterday we went to the Vancouver Pride parade. Good fun. And strangely enough, the first one I'd been to. By long-standing Vancouver tradition it generally rains on that parade, which is odd because August is mid-way through the dry season hereabouts.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on August 08, 2006, 07:03:02 AM
I'm coping with an unresponsive Thunderbird.

The cause of this mess is a phish, which really annoys me. Avast popped up about a half-hour ago to say it had detected an "I-frame" (?) in an incoming email, which was one of the eBay phishes, and what did I want it to do.

Instead of clicking "Delete," I clicked "Continue." Well, how am I supposed to know what to click? Anyway, the program is now frozen. I finally turned off computer, then rebooted, and Thunderbird came back, a further email came in, and I can see the phish sitting in my inbox -- but the program is frozen. I can't do anything with it, can't delete the phish -- nothing.

Argh.  :twisted:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: gunnar gunnarson on August 08, 2006, 08:22:42 AM
Did you try viewing your messages on-line before downloading them?  You can keep a lot of spam from ever reaching your in-box that way.  A bit of a pain, but worth it.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on August 08, 2006, 08:28:15 AM
I went to the Sympatico site, but the inbox there is empty.

The phish is in my Sympatico inbox, and the one thing I have not done is attempt to open it. If I try clicking on the little Trash bin, that's when the program freezes.

I was able to right-click on Inbox and "Mark folder as read," so the phish now appears to have been read although it hasn't. But even now, if I try to send it to Trash, the program freezes.

If I close program and then start up again, I can do anything else. I can send emails, and at least one has come in to another account.

I'm a bit suspicious that nothing is coming into the Sympatico account though.

And the phish is just sitting there. I can't move it without freezing the program.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on August 08, 2006, 08:30:55 AM
Oh! I just right-clicked on it and moved it to Trash. It moved!
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Post by: Debra on August 08, 2006, 08:49:28 AM
now you can do this  :piratedance  instead of this  :smash:
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Post by: skdadl on August 08, 2006, 08:56:31 AM
Well ... let's hope.  

That was so weird. What I have been taught to do with Thunderbird is click on the space that gives you the li'l Junk bin; it should appear, and then as soon as it appears, the message goes to Junk.

But there was the message, sitting in the Inbox, Junk bin showing but message not moving. And if I clicked on the li'l bin to make it move, program froze.

So imagine how much more scared I was to right-click on the message itself. And yet I could, and that got whole thing all the way past Junk to Trash. Didn't freeze anything.

And then I dumped Trash.

I have a feeling that this was mainly a "failure tuh communicate" between me and Avast, although Thunderbird does do odd things to me sometimes, as does Sympatico.

Like, sometimes the li'l Junk bins appear and yet the email does not move to Junk. I don't understand that.
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Post by: Debra on August 08, 2006, 09:10:36 AM
Maybe resident tech needs to give it a tweak or an update.
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Post by: skdadl on August 08, 2006, 09:14:58 AM
The tech adviser is not resident. He probably does need to do some tweaking, though, poor fellow. It would be easier on him if I were smarter because then he could give me advice long distance, but we both know I'm not, so ...

I am getting a leeeetle bit smarter all the time, mind.
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Post by: Debra on August 08, 2006, 09:20:27 AM
I suppose on call tech would have been a more appropriate choice of terms. I just meant the go to guy.
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Post by: skdadl on August 08, 2006, 09:35:26 AM
Well, Sympatico tech support is very, um, hit and miss, in my experience. I've had them lead me through the strangest rabbit warrens, only to find out hours later that the problem was at their end.

I will call them in extremis, but haven't for a while. Someone writing to another list just mentioned that they now charge for tech support. Has anyone else run into that?
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Post by: Debra on August 08, 2006, 09:40:41 AM
They charge? I would never have sympatico because I have never heard of one satisfied customer.

My internet is likely through them in someway but it's through nexicom and their tech support is always friendly and knowledgeable.

Before that I had IGS which also has great tech support.
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Post by: skdadl on August 08, 2006, 09:49:32 AM
Quote from: Debra
They charge?


I'm not sure; I'm just reporting.

But I'm not all that surprised if it's true. They are, after all, THE TELEPHONE COMPANY. They are om-NI-po-tent!    :wink:
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Post by: pogge on August 08, 2006, 11:54:39 AM
Quote from: skdadl
Like, sometimes the li'l Junk bins appear and yet the email does not move to Junk. I don't understand that.


You're not alone. Does that to me occasionally too.
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Post by: skdadl on August 08, 2006, 01:15:17 PM
But if you click twice, it will move, yes? And the next day it will be back to normal?

That was what wouldn't work for me today, although I grasp now that I gave Avast the wrong direction.

*mutter*

I'd like to know why Avast gives me an alternative that freezes my screen, mind you.

*/mutter*
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Post by: pogge on August 08, 2006, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: skdadl
But if you click twice, it will move, yes?

Yes.


Quote
And the next day it will be back to normal?

There is no normal.


Quote
I'd like to know why Avast gives me an alternative that freezes my screen, mind you.


Maybe we'll switch you to AVG.
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Post by: Debra on August 08, 2006, 01:48:10 PM
I prefer the AVG myself.
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Post by: skdadl on August 08, 2006, 01:51:37 PM
Quote from: pogge
There is no normal.


Check. Well, I guess in some awful sort of way, it is reassuring to hear that.

I have the best boss, eh? Good thing, too. Imagine being on the same message board as your boss. Takes courage, eh?  :wink:
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Post by: The Hegemo on August 08, 2006, 03:00:17 PM
I have to leave work early to take Leo to the vet for a check-up, and knowing that has made me completely unproductive. So right now I'm mostly playing around on the internet, making some half-hearted stabs at working on real work, and watching the clock.
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on August 08, 2006, 07:06:26 PM
Just finished clearing up supper mess, and I'm sitting on the couch waiting for the Jays game to start.  I was going to go through and open the mail (we've been gone for 1.5 weeks), pay the bills, and do the filing.  Maybe also some dusting, if I was feeling up to it.

Definitely not feeling up to it.  Man, I am exhausted.  I'm even too tired to reach over the coffee table and retrieve my sudoku book.  

Oh well.  In an hour or so I'll have to get up to pee and eat another cracker.  I'll try to remember to gather the mail and bills, and do that on the couch.  The filing, though, will have to wait.  Did I mention I'm tired?
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Post by: Alix on August 11, 2006, 03:35:59 PM
I think I'm done my Master's. I just got an email from my second reader saying good things about my cognate essay, and that she'll fill out the necessary paperwork, just leave it in her mailbox.

It feels oddly anticlimactic. Also very exciting.

Thank you very much both to skdadl and Caissa for their suggestions for my conclusion.
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Post by: skdadl on August 11, 2006, 03:42:06 PM
Way. To. Go!  Congratulations, Alix.   :flowers

(I made suggestions?   :wink:   )

What are you going to do to celebrate?
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Post by: Alix on August 11, 2006, 03:44:38 PM
Thanks!

You did indeed - some general stuff on writing conclusions that were very helpful. And Caissa took a look at my conclusion as it stood at the time, and also made some helpful comments.

I think my husband and I are going to go out for supper to celebrate. After that, I don't know what.

I'm just glad I'm not working tonight.
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Post by: 'lance on August 11, 2006, 03:58:49 PM
Congratulations, Alix! Must be a good feeling.
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Post by: fern hill on August 11, 2006, 05:35:16 PM
Congrats, Alix.  :) (I woulda given you a fancier smiley, but I got an error message for the more emoticons.)

Right now, I'm watching sweetie gleefully take apart a typewriter. He's going 'Ooo', and 'Wow', and 'Come look at this'. Sweetie is a doozer. He's having a ball.
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Post by: Gigi on August 11, 2006, 11:02:22 PM
Norton Internet Security has decided that everything I do is a security risk.

We're having a slight battle of wills.

I don't think it realizes yet just how stubborn I am.
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on August 11, 2006, 11:30:49 PM
I know who my money's on.
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Post by: steffie on August 13, 2006, 09:10:23 AM
GGRRRR!! Double Post  :evil:
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Post by: steffie on August 13, 2006, 09:11:40 AM
What am I doing now?  Discovering that the internet can be accessed from my work computer. Tee hee!   :)   Unfortunately, I cannot install proggies (not a system admin), or I'd be MSNing up a storm!
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Post by: Boom Boom on August 21, 2006, 09:58:45 PM
...watching Because Of Winn - Dixie for I think the third time. Cassie (my neighbour's German Shepherd whom I am looking after) is transfixed at the screen every time a dog howls, barks, or whines, and the sounds of all the other animals. That gives me an idea - what TV station would be good for babysitting the dog when I'm busy? I don't get Animal Planet, as far as I know, but I'll look.
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Post by: fern hill on August 24, 2006, 11:43:03 AM
I am silver-leafing little doodads at sweetie's studio. Very finicky work. Paint the sticky stuff on. Wait. Wait too long and the silver doesn't stick. Wait too short and the silver sticks for a second then pulls back up, contaminating your brush with sticky stuff, and generally causing a world o' woe.

When it's juuuust right, take very very light floaty filmlike sheet of silver, don't breathe, touch it to sticky surface, pat down lightly with brush. Repeat, yelling every once in a while at the people walking by you causing a breeze, and thus your little sheets of silver to flutter in the wrong direction.

Why am I doing this? Don't ask.
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Post by: Debra on August 24, 2006, 11:54:52 AM
why are you doing this?  :ducking
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Post by: vickyinottawa on August 24, 2006, 12:35:18 PM
I am currently installing programs and setting up my NEW COMPUTER.  I had to give my laptop back to my employer as I started my pregnancy leave last week.  So I put myself further into debt and got myself a nice laptop from Dell - a deal on one that had been previously purchased and returned.  It's not as sleek and sporty as my work one, but it's mine!
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Post by: Debra on August 24, 2006, 12:39:29 PM
You checked to make sure it didn't have the battery issue.. yes?
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Post by: kuri on August 24, 2006, 12:40:54 PM
You must be due quite soon, eh, Vicky?  :mom2b
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Post by: vickyinottawa on August 24, 2006, 12:47:19 PM
battery is ok, I think, but I need to double check

Yep, am 33 weeks yesterday.   Baby is growing right on the curve, in the right position and after next week can arrive any time he chooses.  Official due date is October 11.   According to doc, I have passed all the hurdles for my risk factors and it has been a "perfect pregnancy".  I feel very blessed at 38 to have had such a smooth ride so far (not that tons of things can't go wrong from this point onward!).
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Post by: Debra on August 24, 2006, 12:51:18 PM
we should have a virtual shower!
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Post by: fern hill on August 24, 2006, 12:57:37 PM
How about a silver-leafed spoon for baby's mouth? (Fake silver coz we're lefties here.)
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Post by: vickyinottawa on August 24, 2006, 01:05:07 PM
don't forget the red diapers
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Post by: skdadl on August 24, 2006, 04:32:09 PM
And hats! Gotta have hats. (http://www.3-crowns.com/scan0012b.jpg)

And rubber duckies.   :duck
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Post by: Timebandit on August 24, 2006, 06:24:59 PM
My ex-inlaws tried to get me to wear one of those at my bridal shower...  It was not a pretty scene.

What's up with the ribbon hats?  Why would anybody want that on her head?  Why would anybody else want it on her head?  

Weirdness.

eta:  You need a baby sling, Vicky.  Seriously.  I could not have survived without the sling.
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Post by: Gigi on August 24, 2006, 07:11:41 PM
Quote from: Timebandit
My ex-inlaws tried to get me to wear one of those at my bridal shower...  It was not a pretty scene.


Oh, I'd like to see someone try to put that on my head.
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Post by: skdadl on August 24, 2006, 07:26:38 PM
As I remember the tradition from the sixties, the hat didn't look anything like that good.

The hat back then was formed from a paper-pie-plate base. The ribbons were stuck into it all round, and the result was a whole lot uglier than that.
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Post by: Boom Boom on August 24, 2006, 07:42:30 PM
Hats? In the 70s working in Ottawa, I wore a fedora: (http://delmonicohatter.com/plugins/MivaMerchants/graphics/00000001/Borsalino%20Classic%20Fedora%20Aug%2002%20225X.gif)


I'm sorry they've gone out of style - now I wear what everyone else wears: a baseball cap - ugh.
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on August 25, 2006, 08:12:00 AM
At my bridal shower, they made me wear a money-hat, so I didn't mind.  Just a simple straw hat with folded bills and some neat 50cent pieces fun-tacked to it.  I think there were unsure what to get me, gift-wise, and money is always welcome.

Right now, I am revelling in the power.   I AM IN CHARGE AROUND HERE!!!  *evil laugh*

I'm sure for that to happen, it means that I will be the only one in the office today, with the possible exception of the two who are newer here than me. :)

But I think I'm going to take my coffee mug on a tour of the office (that's what managers do, right, take their coffees' for a walk?), and then figure out what all the shiny buttons do.   :twisted:
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Post by: skdadl on August 25, 2006, 08:16:10 AM
Managers take their coffees for a walk:  :D
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on August 25, 2006, 08:58:32 AM
Well, my coffee mug and I have returned.  You can tell I'm a pretenda', as my mug just had tea in it, but I was looking the part.  Much like a kid playing dress-up.  And, as I had suspected, I am the only one in the office so far.  Maybe the others are just late?

So right now, I'm trying to motivate myself to work.  It's hard, as I had bad dreams last night, woke up crying, and how have the post-tears-gritty-tired-eyes syndrome that makes it next to impossible to focus on a monitor.

Do I get all hard-assed on myself and order me to get to work, or do I show some empathy and let myself have another cup of tea and go see what the other managers are up to?
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Post by: Boom Boom on August 25, 2006, 09:09:11 AM
What am I doing? Just back from taking Cassie (German Shepherd) for her morning constitutional, finished breakfast, and now getting started on cleaning the house - there's dog hair everywhere. :(  Six more weeks to go.
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Post by: Toedancer on August 25, 2006, 09:19:15 AM
Sleeping Sun you sound pregnant. You have more tea and do whatever you want around there. I remember in my 8th month a man stepped on my foot really hard at a checkout counter. I started bawling my eyes out. Took a taxi home.

Another time around 9 months (I went to 9.5) I was standing in front of ROM waiting to meet my then spouse. He was late. I hailed a taxi and no one would stop because I was huge and bawling my eyes out.  They were scared.

Finally one picked me up. Went to Sinai for another ultrasound. Spouse didn't know I was no longer at ROM. Bawling my eyes out.

Was confused cos I never felt better really.
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Post by: fern hill on August 26, 2006, 04:28:13 PM
I'm working at sweetie's again. Today idiotic project involves sticking round wooden beads onto brass tubes, mixing up stuff called Bondo (the pinkish stuff used to fill dents in cars), scraping Bondo to fill the other hole of the bead and building up some volume on the tube end. Desired result is a tear-drop shape.
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Post by: sparqui on August 26, 2006, 04:40:36 PM
I'm on a long break before heading back for another round of pool in about an hour's time. I am the WORST player in the fun league but our team had a respectable loss this morning. The worst part is that I sometimes luck out on a few shots and then throw caution to the wind and attempt combination and bank shots -- as if Minnesota Fats possed my body or something!
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Post by: skdadl on September 10, 2006, 02:37:24 PM
Stupid things to do in the bathroom:

Remember somewhat distractedly first thing in the morning that all the towels need to be washed; grab them; transfer them to laundry basket; pad off to make coffee.

Several hours later: take shower; wash hair. Step out of shower to find ... no towels. (Linen closet is in another room.)

In order to avoid spreading water about two rooms and hallway, dry self with  bits of paper towel. Leaving bathroom in disgust, forget to find new towels in linen closet.

Spend rest of day washing hands, only to discover ... no towels. Get so annoyed every time that you forget to go to linen closet to retrieve fresh towels.
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Post by: skdadl on September 13, 2006, 06:33:41 AM
It's 6.30 here, and I am only beginning to be able to see the outlines of rooftops against the still fairly dark sky. We may be very clouded-over, though.
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 13, 2006, 06:36:48 AM
I'm bleary-eyed (allergies) and enjoying my first coffee of the day. The dog is still asleep - she commandeered the heating pad during the night. Thankfully, it's a relatively warm 11C this morning, nicer than the 2 or 3 degrees C I've been confronted with all week upon waking. We're under cloud cover, but no rain in our forecast today.
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Post by: steffie on September 13, 2006, 07:38:18 AM
Sitting here in my cuddly bathrobe which is the colour of fresh butter.  So thick and warm!  Hair is still wet from shower - I let it drip dry when I can to keep from drying it out too much.

I am seeing a student today and we are talking about cover letters -- well, his cover letter, which we will construct.  Last session was resume, of course.

Other than that my day is clear, so I plan to do some more fiddling with Dreamweaver and obsess about the Monday interview.

It's cloudy here, too.
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Post by: The Hegemo on September 13, 2006, 11:05:21 AM
Sitting in a hotel room in Naperville, IL, listening to Wilco and surfing the internet. I have to go to a meeting at a different hotel near O'Hare, and I'm killing time until it's time to leave for that. Which I've been doing since 6AM. Stupid time zones.  :wink:

At least once my meeting is over, I have the rest of the day off to drive into Chicago and hit some bookstores and then go out to dinner with my oldest friend (in terms of length of knowing one another, not age) and her husband.
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Post by: vickyinottawa on September 13, 2006, 03:53:35 PM
I spent the afternoon with my mother, going through the crap in the basement so we can get ready for a major purge in the rest of the house.  Have to get this place in shape for when the baby comes.

In other news, I have been informed that the incumbent in my ward is dropping out of the race.
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Post by: skdadl on September 13, 2006, 03:56:43 PM
Yay, vicky! That is fantastic news, yes?
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Post by: 'lance on September 13, 2006, 07:47:42 PM
Yay II! Is it too much to hope for that it's to do with some entertaining scandal or other?

I know, I know -- it's the Glebe, so probably not. Still, a gyu can hope, you know? I still dream of proper politicians' (as opposed to political) scandals, English-style (http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=000039).
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 13, 2006, 08:24:27 PM
I spent the day outside. First, a 60 minute walk with the dog (at 7 am....) then built a small rock garden, had to get lots of black muck (local term for 'topsoil') and rocks, then made a driveway with mussell and clam shells from the beach (a common alternative to gravel or pavement here), then cut firewood kindling, then another 60 minute walk with the dog, started cleaning out the veggie garden, sat down to watch the news at 330 pm - horrible business in Montreal - watched the horror for 45 minutes, then got supper ready. After supper, a final 75 minute walk with the dog - she's fast asleep on my favourite easy chair - won't budge. I'll watch The National, then call it a night.
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Post by: vickyinottawa on September 14, 2006, 07:10:08 AM
Thx skdadl and 'lance.  It is good news, but it also means we have to work very hard to get the vote out.  there is a woman from the business community who will be much stiffer competition.

Shawn has had scandal in his day, but ultimately I think he just recognized his chances of re-election were slim and decided it was time to look at other options.  It was the right decision for him, I think
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Post by: skdadl on September 14, 2006, 07:19:12 AM
Ooh. We have our first political operative, fingers crossed.

The patronage line forms here (right behind me). Stop treading on my heels, would ya?  :wink:
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Post by: arborman on September 15, 2006, 02:00:57 AM
Just finished watching one of the worst movies I've ever seen.  I'm two hours older and a bit stupider for having seen it.

The cross you have to bear when you are a fan of the lowbrow comedy film.  For every sublime 'Best in Show' there are a half dozen 'Dodgeballs' and 'AMerican Weddings'.  But we soldier on.
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Post by: suzette on September 15, 2006, 02:28:52 AM
May I ask which film it was, arborman, or is it too shame-making?
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on September 15, 2006, 10:21:41 AM
Argh.  It's friday, and I'm stuck with trying to read my way through a stack of research papers on machine translation.  I'm tired and having trouble focussing, which means I get to re-read parts over and over.  And the math, which I normally don't mind, is making my eyes roll back to peer at the insides of my brain.

lagatta, I know you do this for a living.  Translation, that is.  Your livleyhood is in no threat whatsoever from computers.  Not for anytime in the next, oh, 10 years at the earliest, I would guess.  I figure if I can spend days reading dissertations on how to correctly translate "by the bank" and "John saw a boy with a telescope", human translators are far from being threatened.

The only good point:  I still giggle to myself everytime I read "POS".  I *know* they're referring to part of speech, but my mind, inefficient acronym translator that it is, always substitutes the more colorful version.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on September 16, 2006, 12:37:43 AM
It is past midnight and I am still tidying up.  I wouldn't be able to sleep anyway - my nerves are too jangled.  Two hours ago I arrived home from a lovely dinner and scrabble game with my best friend, to find my house burglared.  Cupboard and closet doors left ajar, half-opened drawers, chests jimmied open, stuff broken and thrown about ...  

So I called 911 and a police officer came around, I gave a partial description of what was missing - my mind was blank, I knew that some DVDs a friend lent me were gone but I could not remember the titles - so he told me that I could call tomorrow to update the list of stolen items.

I hate this - not so much that stuff is gone, most everything I own is inexpensive or second-hand or used or very old anyway, but it's the casual violence and lack of respect for somebody's living space.  I am still shaking, I am so upset.

 :cry:

Fortunately a friend called around 11 - she was just getting in from work - and when I blurted out what happened, she came over to hug me and has offered to stay overnight.  To me that is what counts, the tangible kindness and support of good people.

Oh and my cat is safe - she hid in the basement and came out for cuddles and now she is sitting in my lap as I type this.
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Post by: Toedancer on September 16, 2006, 12:45:21 AM
Quote from: deBeauxOs
It is past midnight and I am still tidying up.  I wouldn't be able to sleep anyway - my nerves are too jangled.  Two hours ago I arrived home from a lovely dinner and scrabble game with my best friend, to find my house burglared.  Cupboard and closet doors left ajar, half-opened drawers, chests jimmied open, stuff broken and thrown about ...  

So I called 911 and a police officer came around, I gave a partial description of what was missing - my mind was blank, I knew that some DVDs a friend lent me were gone but I could not remember the titles - so he told me that I could call tomorrow to update the list of stolen items.

I hate this - not so much that stuff is gone, most everything I own is inexpensive or second-hand or used or very old anyway, but it's the casual violence and lack of respect for somebody's living space.  I am still shaking, I am so upset.

 :cry:

Fortunately a friend called around 11 - she was just getting in from work - and when I blurted out what happened, she came over to hug me and has offered to stay overnight.  To me that is what counts, the tangible kindness and support of good people.

Oh and my cat is safe - she hid in the basement and came out for cuddles and now she is sitting in my lap as I type this.


OMG, I am so sorry to hear this. One wonders about why? There are no answers, just our own instincts. Huggs from your alternative world as well.
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Post by: sparqui on September 16, 2006, 12:50:06 AM
deBeauxOs, I am so sorry. That is such a horrible sensation -- to know that your home has been invaded and violated. I think of home as my sanctuary, a safe place, and I can imagine how absoutely traumatized I would be to return to what you had to.

I am relieved that your friend came over to keep you company and make you feel safe. I'm also glad your cat is OK. She is obviously relieved to be reunited with her.

I hope you feel comfortable in your home again -- the sooner the better.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on September 16, 2006, 12:54:13 AM
Grand merci ... it is comforting to be able to post my misfortune and to read your kind words.
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Post by: sparqui on September 16, 2006, 12:56:05 AM
Courage mon amie! I hope you manage to get some sleep. Hugs and best wishes.
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Post by: Holly Stick on September 16, 2006, 03:04:11 AM
I'm glad your friend is there for the safety, but also because it's good to be able to talk about it; and to vent, maybe at the rats who did it.
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Post by: skdadl on September 16, 2006, 05:10:09 AM
Och, my lovely chickadee, how awful! Big hugs from me too, and blessings on your good friend. I hope you have both been able to get some rest by now. And I'm glad that kitty went to ground and is safe.

I've only had a minor burglary, and we were both in the house at the time, but I remember how long it took for my sense of fury to abate. But to have someone rifle through your things, mess up your home, to claim not just your things but a bit of you, really -- that is horrible.

We need to do a house-cleansing and re-commissioning ceremony for you. What would that entail? I shall go and get my pillar candle and light it and wave it at you through my screen. More big hugs.   :hug
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Post by: lagatta on September 16, 2006, 05:21:21 AM
C'est dégueulasse.

Happened to me many years ago. I was a student with nothing, but they took my bicycle, and other things important to me.

I hope they haven't stolen any valuable documents - passport, credit cards, etc.

Second-hand things might not cost much, but it takes a lot of time to find them, and one gets attached to one's "things". And above all the sense of some intrus with ill intent being inside your home... good you can be with another human friend, and your feline friend.
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Post by: fern hill on September 16, 2006, 08:03:22 AM
deBeauxOs, how creepy. As skdadl says, you need some kind of exorcism ceremony. *knock wood* It's never happened to me, but whilst travelling hippy-dippily in a VW bus (no flowers painted on it) in the US in the 70s, the bus was stolen. Our home, as it were. Everything but the clothes we stood in -- gone. Luckily, the dog was with us. Now that would have broken my heart. The bus, not so much.
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 16, 2006, 09:31:16 AM
One of my houses in northern Ontario was broken into by very young teenagers, nothing stolen, just ripped apart. Insurance covered most of it. The kids were given probation and community service. On the island a few years ago, a drunk mistook my house for someone else's, helped himself to the kitchen, then passed out in the spare bedroom. He stole all the money in my wallet, about $200, but a neighbour of mine, when he heard the story, confronted the guy before he left (on a fishing boat) and got the money back. No charges laid. Once, in northern Ontario, I was assaulted, and I think the assailant went to prison for a few days to cool off.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on September 16, 2006, 12:45:52 PM
Oh you grils and gyus!  Thank you for your comforting words.  I will do a cleansing ceremony after I complete the tidying and cleaning.  We slept in late after the gruesome excitement of last night, I upstairs with my aluminum baseball bat close by (picked up at a garage sale cuz you never know ...) and my friend L. downstairs on the futon with a crowbar (from last year's bathroom ripdown fest) within reach.

As it turns out, now that I looked through the up-ended drawers and ravaged closets, this is what's missing: a hand-me-down laptop from my daughter (10 years old, still in reasonable working condition) some DVDs loaned to me by a friend, some loonies and quarters that I kept for the laundromat, half a bottle of cooking sherry and sadly enough, some trinkets - an agate broach, a watch - that I inherited from my grandmaman.

Break-ins are rife on Friday and Saturday evenings, early in the school year when students are out - partying on campus or downtown and since I live in a student "ghetto", that is, close to the University my house is vulnerable.   This is the fourth time in 15 years and every time, I upgrade my security measures.  But I refuse to have my house wired up and to pay a monthly fee to a company on the pretense that it will make my house burglar-proof.  I will go shortly to the hardware store to pick up more of those clamps that fit on the frames of aluminum window frames to prevent them from being opened from the outside.  Too bad they don't sell a trip-wire system that triggers a loud, obnoxious, screeching alarm that can be heard throughout the neighbourhood.  

However, I imagine how disappointed the thief must have been when he (yep, male caught on the side yard security camera that the apartment building next door set up for their own purposes) surveyed my eclectic assortment of tchotchkas, since he probably expected shiny new beginning-of-the-school-year purchases.   :?
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Post by: sparqui on September 16, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
deBeauxOs, I'm glad you and your friend managed to get some sleep. What a shame about losing jewellery that you inherited from your grandmother. That hurts.

I once made the mistake of letting the boy I was 'dating' housesit my place while I went to a conference. He stole all sorts of things including booze and money. But what really infuriated me is that he stole a gold charm bracelet that had belonged to my mother. I was so angry when he denied stealing from me that I went to his place to see for myself -- no answer at the door but it was unlocked. I went in and found lots of my things which I collected and took back home. But not my mother's bracelet. We hung out with the same group of friends and even though I felt embarassed by being duped by this punk, I called him out as a thief and scam artist in public. Caused quite the stir and I guess some mutual friends told him to work something out. Anyway, made him stick to a repayment schedule for the cash he stole and told him he could keep the household things he took like towels and cups. But the bracelet -- that broke my heart. Who knows if he pawned it right away or whether he gave it to a friend... I know that if he had kept it, I would of had it back.

The weirdest item he stole (a real head scratcher) was a pair of tie-dyed thights!
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 16, 2006, 03:23:51 PM
I'm sorry that happened to you, deBeauxOs, and I hope you start to get some rest. I recall I was all shook up for about 24 hours if not longer after the various things I experienced (house vandalized, assault, etc...).
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Post by: Debra on September 16, 2006, 03:34:00 PM
How awful! Glad you had someone to stay with you.  :hug
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Post by: 'lance on September 16, 2006, 04:42:15 PM
Sorry to hear about this, deBeauxOs, especially that you lost stuff of sentimental value.
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Post by: anne cameron on September 16, 2006, 05:50:31 PM
How upsetting for you , Gorgeous Bones...and to lose your grandmother's things must really hurt.

Years and years ago my grandma gave me a particularly unique bracelet and I wore it almost all the time.  It got a dent in it when I slid into third base, playing softball.  And then it vanished.  It just vanished.

Years passed.  I was teaching at SFU, taking the bus, and had to switch from one bus to another at a particular spot.  And there I was, standing waiting and the back of my neck started to prickle.  Sensation grew until it was almost hurtful.  I turned and...in the window of a jewellry store...my bracelet.  I went inside, asked to see it, and there, by god, was the dent, too.  I blurted "this is mine. It was stolen...", the owner of the store became most defensive, I couldn't just walk in and claim, I'd have to prove..I said hey, I'm not looking to make trouble, I'll buy it, how much do you want for it...paid him...brought the bracelet home...gave it to my daughter.  She still has it.

I hope one day you're standing waiting for a bus and the back of your neck starts to prickle and...I'll burn smudge for you, try to get the spirits to help cleanse the boogers from your space.

It's not true "it's just stuff".  It was YOUR stuff!
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Post by: on September 16, 2006, 06:21:07 PM
Oh debeauxos, I am sorry to hear this. Do you think you can get your stuff back now that they caught the guy? Or is he only caught on camera so far?
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Post by: Toedancer on September 16, 2006, 06:23:56 PM
Oh Anne what a wonderful story. A magical return, I love it.

My granny, who somehow sensed she was gonna die soon, sent me plane tickets from Victoria to return to her home in Lindsay. She was real tight as they say, so the family was ooing and aahing over it. I spent two glorious weeks with her, just the two of us. Before I flew back to Vic she asked me to choose a piece of jewellry. I chose a massive emerald ring. It ended up down a friends water pipe to the well. I was obsessed for years about wanting it back, feeling guilty.

When I was in Bogota I bought from a street fence a bag of emeralds. On a hunch I just knew they were the real thing. Had them evaluated when I returned to Toronto. Yep, the real thing. So had a ring made up that is 'almost' the same. I immediately felt better.
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Post by: vickyinottawa on September 16, 2006, 06:25:22 PM
debeauxos, that is just terrible.  It's such a violation.
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 16, 2006, 07:09:31 PM
Just back from a walk on the island with the dog - gosh, the island is beautiful at high tide. There's pools of water all over the shoreline, and some are more than ten feet deep - the dog loves jumping in and going for a swim. Wish all you folks could share in the beauty of this place. Want some photos?
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Post by: lagatta on September 16, 2006, 07:15:24 PM
We already have some, but more are always welcome!

I haven't been that far "down" on the Lower North Shore. Much as I hate highway development (a sop to sprawl) you certainly need a road.

As for me, I'm just polishing off a wee (tapas-sized) dish of my turkey-leg braise in St-Ambroise Oatmeal Stout, with mild white turnips and tiny carrots (yum). But friends will come for a proper feed of it.
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 16, 2006, 07:18:58 PM
I had poached cod with turnip, taters, and carrot mashed together. Comfort food, and lots of it after painting all afternoon. Went for an hour walk with the dog on the island. Just finished a maple walnut ice cream cone and will be heading for bed very soon.
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Post by: k'in on September 17, 2006, 10:13:55 AM
DeBeauxOs-that’s horrible.  I hope you they catch the guy and you get your stuff back, especially the items with sentimental value.  Sending good wishes your way….
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Post by: steffie on September 17, 2006, 10:32:10 AM
My sentiments join those already posted.  Sure, we like our things, but that slap in the face of casual violation is what really stings. :(
 
Loved the bracelet story, anne.  Do you think that kind of thing happens with lost people, too?
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Post by: deBeauxOs on September 17, 2006, 12:11:07 PM
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Loved the bracelet story, anne.  Do you think that kind of thing happens with lost people, too?
 It has happened to me ... I will be thinking or dreaming of someone, a student colleague who has moved to another city or an ex-lover that I've lost touch with or a friend who is travelling, and they pop up in my life.  It happens.  

And if you read Anne's novels, you'll discover that there are lot of serendipitous events and well as good kharma that happen there, too.   8)
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Post by: fern hill on September 17, 2006, 02:08:38 PM
Surprise. I'm indexing. Usually this happens on what's called second pages. In first pages, stuff can get moved around, photos resized, inserted, or deleted. Often -- if the book has both a competent editor and author -- there isn't much of this. Sometimes there's a lot. So, it is better to index from second pages.

This time, though, I'm indexing first pages. Because there have been problems (unspecified to me) with this book and it is late.

I HATE indexing first pages. Already, the editor has called to tell me we're losing two pages in chapter 4 (the permission didn't come through). So, thereafter, I have to subtract two from each page number.

So, I got home this morning from sweetie's and started at it. And of course completely forgot to subtract 2. And had to go back to change all the fucking page numbers. Just one chapter's worth, but sheee-it.

Once when I did this, I had to subtract one page from Chapters D to F, add a page in Chapter H, subtract again. . .  you get the mind-frying idea.

As I (almost) yelled at the editor on the phone -- 'We went into editing because we're BAD with numbers!'

I think I'll go out for a walk to clear the brain.
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Post by: skdadl on September 17, 2006, 02:16:29 PM
fern hill! Are you there? Are you still alive?

They're baaaaack! Why?   :evil:
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Post by: fern hill on September 17, 2006, 02:44:54 PM
I was going to warn you, skdadl, but I didn't see you online. In our newly militaristic country, this is the new normal. The veterans' monument (a wall, I think, where did that novel idea come from?) that has been under construction at Queen's Park for months is being unveiled today, complete with military parade and fly-over. That was the fly-over. And it's over.
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Post by: skdadl on September 17, 2006, 04:34:12 PM
Aha. fern hill, I hurt my knee. Really, with no warning, they were right on top of us, and I did dive.

I hurt my knee. I need someone to kiss it better.  *pout*
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Post by: fern hill on September 17, 2006, 05:13:39 PM
:kiss
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Post by: suzette on September 17, 2006, 09:18:04 PM
I know this is a little late, deBeauxOs, but I just wanted to say how sorry I am to read your crappy news.  I can't add much more than has been said here by others, except to say that I'll direct my bummest vibes at the perpetrators at full volume.  Here's to wishing him/them a particularly painful ingrown toenail and hiccoughs that last for over a week.
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Post by: suzette on September 17, 2006, 09:21:19 PM
Oh, and a kiss for skdadl's knee, too.
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Post by: lagatta on September 17, 2006, 10:03:07 PM
Yeah, I heard about the war memorial stuff on the CBC.

Egads. Now, I'm all for honouring the valour of our veterans and victims of war (though it would be nice to help them when they are still alive) but there is a sick militarism about this.

I've seen some pretty lugubrious monuments in Europe - The Vittorio Emanuele Monument in Rome, which is known as the typewriter or the wedding cake (it looks a bit like old-fashioned typewriters, and Stalinist wedding-cake architecture) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_o ... manuele_II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_of_Vittorio_Emanuele_II) and a horrible Colombarium for war dead in Udine: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immagine:T ... _basso.jpg (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immagine:Tempio_ossario_basso.jpg)
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on September 18, 2006, 08:13:56 AM
Oh, deBeauxOs, I'm so sorry to hear about your troubles.  I hope you are soon able to once again find peace in your home.  A good friend of mine ended up moving out of her place after a break-in because she couldn't resettle.
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Post by: Américain Égalitaire on September 18, 2006, 08:59:30 AM
Late to the thread but my condolences for this violation of your personal space deBeauxOs. Did they catch the culprit  - the one that was on the video?
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Post by: Herr Magoo on September 18, 2006, 10:03:36 AM
And if they did catch him, were they kind enough to put him in a pillory approximately equidistant from your house and the baseball bat store?  
They should.  Wouldn't it be nice if parasites like this could, y'know, maybe "interface" with the public they prey on, and maybe find out how regular folk really feel about their activities?  I think it could be the start of a meaningful dialogue.  ;)

I've yet to experience a break-in in my house, but our garage was burgled within a week of us moving in, and I lost a fair amount of camera gear and such.  We'd left a fair amount of stuff out in the garage while we moved boxes around in the house, and some parasite got his pick of it.

And I agree wholeheartedly that it's not about the goods (sentimental irreplaceables notwithstanding).  It's about having some privacy and some security in your space.  Insurance can replace the stereo or the golf clubs, but the idea of total strangers wandering freely among your belongings, taking whatever they wish like God just granted them a shopping spree at your expense is galling.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on September 18, 2006, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: Herr Magoo
... Insurance can replace the stereo or the golf clubs, but the idea of total strangers wandering freely among your belongings, taking whatever they wish like God just granted them a shopping spree at your expense is galling.
Nope, not caught yet so I will call the cop shop to update them with what's missing - just remembered 2 more titles of the DVDs lent to me.

Dunno if the pillory would work, Magoo.  Such a modern idea, though.   :roll:  

The last time - 6 years ago - that my house was broken into, I actually saw the burglar as he left via my kitchen back door and I was so enraged that I started yelling at him.  Since I called the cops immediately with a description they nabbed him about a block away.  He pleaded not guilty thinking that I wouldn't show up at his trial as a subpoenaed witness.  I did and when his lawyer saw me outside the courtroom, he scooted back inside to tell his client and he changed his plea.  Really, I don't know who was scuzzier, the lawyer or the burglar.
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Post by: Herr Magoo on September 18, 2006, 07:32:52 PM
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Such a modern idea, though.


Sometimes the old ways are the best ways.  ;)
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 21, 2006, 08:20:37 AM
Just back from my morning walk with the dog - through the bush, and then on the beach. The beach is littered with washed up jellyfish - they don't look dangerous, but they apparently can sting. All of them are a dark crimson colour - when I turned one over, it looked like a quivering mass of jello, and I could not see any tentacles/stingers/whatever they're called. Maybe they retreated into the body? Last night, on the island, besides jellyfish everywhere, there were mussells by the millions, clams, and small sea urchin. Also huge piles of kelp and seaweed washed up. Gorgeous to see the beach at low tide with all this stuff.
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Post by: k'in on September 21, 2006, 12:31:14 PM
I've been stung by jellyfish before.  I don't know the science but it feels like electric shocks.  I'm getting ouchy just thinking about them...
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 21, 2006, 01:11:52 PM
I turned the jellyfish over with a stick - I'm scared of them enough not to touch them at all, having heard all kinds of stuff about their stingers.
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Post by: fern hill on September 22, 2006, 03:04:19 PM
I'm indexing a textbook on geomorphology with lots and lots of ferrin words (largely German for mountains and Hawaiian for volcanoes, lotta French for mountains too, Spanish for desert formations) and jargon and scientific terms. The spell check program doesn't like most of them and underlines them in wavy red. I'm going cross-eyed. Also, I'm afraid that I'm making tpyos and have ceased to see them through all the red waviness.

There are four, count 'em, four books here in various stages of indexing. Two I had begun then was told to stop. One rush-rush in first pages that I've done all I can at the moment to. And this geomorphology, another rush-rush.
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Post by: skdadl on September 22, 2006, 03:30:01 PM
I am putting off changing the cat boxes.
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 22, 2006, 04:06:46 PM
I'm putting off painting the outdoor window frames - too cold and windy.
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 24, 2006, 12:43:16 PM
Just back from a walk with the dog around the island. The incoming high tide is the highest I've ever seen it - there's a section back on the mainland where it's not far from the main road. On the island at high tide, one needs to be careful navigating the rocks, as you have to head for the higher ones, and a slip can cause injury, or sweep you into the Gulf current. The crazy dog loves to run through the surf, regardless.  :shock:
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Post by: skdadl on September 25, 2006, 07:41:00 AM
It is 7.40 and I have three ciggies left. Store opens at 8.

I think I've made it.  :D
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on September 25, 2006, 08:28:53 AM
Quote from: lagatta
As for me, I'm just polishing off a wee (tapas-sized) dish of my turkey-leg braise in St-Ambroise Oatmeal Stout, with mild white turnips and tiny carrots (yum).


Ahem?  Recipe, please.  (http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/eat.gif)
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Post by: lagatta on September 25, 2006, 08:38:19 AM
gunnar, I'd already posted the approximate recipe, on the thread "What should I make for supper tonight?", in the "Chef's Corner" forum:

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I'm making a braise, a variation on this recipe. However, I didn't have the butcher chop the turkey drumsticks into "osso buco" shapes, just in half (I found this recipe after I returned).

But that will have to be for tomorrow night as I'm tired: think I'll just make a panino with thick pita, stuffed with cheese and veg.


Caribbean-style Braised Turkey Legs
Based on Émiril Lagasse recipe, with a few changes
Prep Time: 20 minutes
Cook Time: 3 hours
Yield: 4 to 6 servings

1/4 cup olive oil
2 pounds turkey legs, cut crosswise by your butcher osso bucco-style (about 4 to 6 legs)
2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1 cup small dice onion
1/2 cup small dice carrot
1/2 cup small dice celery
1/4 cup small dice leeks
cup or so chopped tomatoes, without skin
1 tablespoon minced garlic
1 tablespoon minced green onion, white part only
2 teaspoons minced ginger
2 1/2 tablespoons flour
2 (12-ounce) bottles stout (dark beer)
1 tablespoon chopped fresh parsley leaves
Add the olive oil to a large Dutch oven and heat over medium heat until hot. Season the turkey with the salt and pepper. Add half of the turkey legs to the pan and cook until well browned on both sides, about 3 to 4 minutes per side. Set the seared turkey legs on a platter once browned and repeat with the remaining turkey legs. Once all the turkey legs are browned, add the onions, carrots and celery to the pan. Saute the vegetables until softened, about 3 to 4 minutes.
Add the leeks, garlic, green onions and ginger to the pan and saute for 1 minute, stirring often. Add tomatoes and stir well to incorporate. Sprinkle the flour over the vegetables and stir to combine. Cook, stirring for 3 minutes. Add the Guinness to the Dutch oven and increase the heat to medium-high. Bring the stout to a boil and cook for 5 minutes and return the turkey legs to the pan. Return the pan to a boil and reduce to a simmer. Cover and continue to cook the turkey legs until tender, about 2 to 2 1/2 hours. Remove the lid, and stir the chopped parsley into the pan. Serve immediately over steamed white rice.

I'll simplify it quite a bit, just using one type of onions, and more garlic.
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Post by: skdadl on September 25, 2006, 08:41:35 AM
Yum yum yum.

Ooh, it is cold out there this a.m. The sky is so blue and there is a beautiful sun, but it is chilly!
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Post by: lagatta on September 25, 2006, 09:26:41 AM
By the way, the caramelised onion - dark beer reduction can be a great vegetarian base as well.
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Post by: skdadl on September 25, 2006, 12:20:36 PM
I have to go to the dentist in a little while. I think I will go and floss for about half an hour.   :oops:
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Post by: 'lance on September 25, 2006, 01:19:38 PM
Courage! The anticipation is the worst. Afterwords, you'll wonder what you were worried about.

I have to go in about a month. I've resolved to floss every night until then, or bust.

Actually I was pleasantly surprised last year, when I had a bunch of work done, that it was all painless. Things have definitely improved since I were a lad, by gum.
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Post by: Herr Magoo on September 25, 2006, 03:32:56 PM
I dunno about that.  I got my wisdoms extracted about a month ago, and I honestly doubt that that particular procedure has been changed since the days when your dentist was also your barber.

That, and the X-rays.  If you haven't had a dental X-ray in a while, and want to know what I'm talking about, cut an old credit card roughly in half, leaving at least one sharp point.  Fold the credit card in half, and insert it way into the back of your mouth so that the pointy part is poking into the softest part of your palate, tongue or (preferably) both.  If you fail to gag, push the credit card further back.  When you commence gagging, bite down hard, driving the credit card into your gums and soft tissues.  Hold until the tears stop flowing.  Repeat 10 more times in all areas of your mouth.

Another thing that hasn't improved much, now that I think about it, is that friggin' needle-on-a-stick.  You know the one:  stainless steel, long pointy fishhook thing on the end?  Basically, the dentist will ask you to open your mouth.  Then s/he'll start jabbing at your teeth with the pointed tool — jab-jab-Jab-jab-JAB-JABJABJAB!! — then s/he will announce truimphantly "Oh, you appear to have a cavity!!!"

No kidding?  Gee!  You just dug a hole in my tooth with your wee  icepick!!  Duh!!
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Post by: 'lance on September 25, 2006, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: Herr Magoo
I dunno about that.  I got my wisdoms extracted about a month ago, and I honestly doubt that that particular procedure has been changed since the days when your dentist was also your barber.


Perhaps not. Though I was lucky enough (if you want to put it that way) to have had that done in hospital, under a general anesthetic. A bonus (from my parents' point of view, given that I was 18 and still under their dental plan) was that OHIP paid for it. I wonder if it still does.
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Post by: skdadl on September 25, 2006, 05:00:22 PM
I have survived. More or less. My tongue is so numb that it feels swollen, of course, and I'm afraid I'm going to bite it. The dentist already nicked it with the drill at one point, so I know it is going to hurt when the freezing comes out. Argh.

She was rebuilding a back molar that cracked and broke way last December. Before the piece broke off, I was in such pain; after it broke off, the pain stopped, and life was hectic at the time, so I just ... didn't do anything.

Dentist could have shouted at me for waiting so long, but she is nice, just set to work building up what looks like a real tooth, a whole tooth -- she gets very proud of her sculpting, and makes me look at it and compliment it (biting my tongue as I go).

It is going to feel funny, having a tooth in that spot again. It is so far back she had to give me two needles, kept complaining about how widely flared my mandible is.  She says I have bones where nobody else has bones, and I also have too many nerves coming into my head from my neck.  :shock:
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Post by: Herr Magoo on September 25, 2006, 05:11:49 PM
It might, but I imagine it's the getting into the hospital part that's the hurdle.

I asked my dentist whether I'd have to go to the hospital and "go under", and he told me that the hospital will only take referrals if there's a reason (eg: pregnancy, other mitigating illness like haemophilia, etc.)

And going under was up to me.  I figured, as long as it doesn't hurt, I'd rather stay awake.  Don't get me wrong:  if you need to open my chest, put me under!  But for this I didn't really want the extra recuperation time, the risk, the having to not eat for 24 hours before, and all that.

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My tongue is so numb that it feels swollen, of course, and I'm afraid I'm going to bite it.


I HATE THAT MORE THAN I HATE THE PAIN.

When I got my wisdoms out, they double dipped me, and everything below my nose was numb, even my chin and parts of my neck.

I once asked a dentist to fill a tooth without novacaine, just to avoid the big dumb mucklemouth (and subsequent chew-holes in the tongue and cheeks) that freezing causes.
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 25, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
I also had my wisdom teeth extracted in a hospital, and I was 'under'. Went into the hospital sometime during the day, was out in the early evening. This would be either 1975 or 1976, and I learned that the year after, dentists could not do it (extract wisdom teeth) in the hospital any longer, unless, of course, there were mitigating factors. The procedure was paid by OHIP.
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 25, 2006, 07:25:28 PM
Back from a walk on the mainland beach. Flotsam found on the island today included a huge dead seal; on the mainland beach, a dead shark, about 4 feet in length, maybe more.  :(
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Post by: 'lance on September 25, 2006, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: Herr Magoo
It might, but I imagine it's the getting into the hospital part that's the hurdle.

I asked my dentist whether I'd have to go to the hospital and "go under", and he told me that the hospital will only take referrals if there's a reason (eg: pregnancy, other mitigating illness like haemophilia, etc.)


Sounds like they've put considerable restrictions on it since my day. I certain had/have no mitigating illness (serious myopia, I'm guessing, doesn't count), and I'm as certain as one could be that I've not been pregnant.

I didn't have to fast for 24 hours, only around 12, but as for the recuperation... hoo boy. I had this procedure about a week before heading off to Toronto for my first year of university. New horizons, I was thinking -- perhaps there'll be some grils there who'll actually talk to me. (In a high school dominated by jockdom, I was very much on the outside looking in).

Naturally, the swelling took over two weeks to completely subside. I arrived in residence looking like an adolescent squirrel and talking like someone with cotton and marbles in his mouth.
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Post by: Herr Magoo on September 25, 2006, 10:31:25 PM
I had a big mad bruise that extended from under my chin, down my neck, to about two ribs below my clavicle.  No pain or anything, but when it turned that jaundiced yellow/purple I had no choice but to get the ascots out of mothballs.

Raw deal on the first impressions for you, though University is a big place, and there must have been a young woman or two who liked squirrels.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on September 26, 2006, 10:46:02 AM
Quote from: Herr Magoo
... Raw deal on the first impressions for you, though University is a big place, and there must have been a young woman or two who liked squirrels.
yabut they were nuts.
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Post by: Holly Stick on September 26, 2006, 11:36:44 AM
Dagnabbit!  I got so involved in this forum that I overcooked breakfast; toasted crumpets and cheese.  So I am now re-cooking breakfast, having tossed out the rock-like first effort.
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Post by: brebis noire on September 26, 2006, 11:43:21 AM
Well I overcooked a batch of tomatoes, so there.  :wink: So many vitamins lost forever.
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Post by: Holly Stick on September 26, 2006, 12:12:47 PM
Well, they might prefer that quick end to being made into ketchup and losing all their vitamins in the process.  :)
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 26, 2006, 01:38:11 PM
Yeah, but what's better than ketchup on eggs in the morning? :P
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Post by: brebis noire on September 26, 2006, 01:40:33 PM
Raw tomatoes. (Is this a trick question?)
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 26, 2006, 01:47:49 PM
Not a trick question. Raw tomatoes with eggs is something I've done several times, but I don't always have them on hand. I always have a container of ketchup in the fridge. I like tomato sandwiches with a small dollop of mayo anytime, smetimes with slices of cucumber. I don't think I go without ketchup for long.
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Post by: fern hill on September 27, 2006, 04:13:02 PM
I just finished the capture part of an index for a 466-page book on geomorphology. As I complained somewhere here, it is full of words my spell check objects to. But among them are some nifty Scrabble words to annoy your opponents with. Zibar, for one, and another one without a vowel!!! When I've mushed it together, I'll come back and share them.
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Post by: Boom Boom on September 30, 2006, 03:08:51 PM
It's a wild, windy, cold, wet weekend here. I'm back from a walk at the back of the island - the Gulf breakers are marvellous - sometimes you'll see a breaker (or wave) taller than my house! We stay a good distance away from the edge of the water - I don't want the dog to get sucked by an undertow, or smashed on the rocks. I've fed the birds constantly as their birdseed is being scattered by the wind. Poor little guys - I wish they would head south for warmer climes. Last year I had snow buntings in front of the house at -30C. I think I'll get started on building birdhouses and feeders with all the scrap lumber I got with this house.
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on October 01, 2006, 06:49:56 AM
Right now I'm wondering if this cold will ever break.  I went home Wednesday with a sore throat.  Throat was in agnoy for two days, but started feeling better yesterday.  But then yesterday, my sinuses plugged up.  I can't sleep, which is why I'm up this early on a Sunday morning, I can't read or crochet because my head hurts, all food tastes like phlegm.  So I sort of stumble around in a grumpy hazy, blowing my nose and then dabbing said raw nose with Vitamin E ointment, and occasionally making tea.  

Argh.  I hate sinus colds.  I have fucked up sinuses, and so colds always end up there.  But in the past, I had the pleasure of using decongestants.  Yes, I know, they don't cure anything, and they can actually make the cold last longer.  But you know what?  I don't care.  It doesn't matter if the cold lasts longer if you can decongest yourself enough to get some work done and then knock your sorry ass out at bedtime and actually get some sleep, instead of spending the night choking on a post-nasal drip.  /rant

I miss drugs.  Or a hot toddy.  Etiher would be nice.  All I get now is tea and tylenol.  Not.  The.  Same.
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Post by: skdadl on October 01, 2006, 06:54:31 AM
Tea and sympathy, SS -- from me, anyway.

Try honey -- how does honey taste?
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on October 01, 2006, 07:19:01 AM
Honey tastes the same as everything else, but it is soothing on my throat.  Sometimes I also add a squeeze of lemon to my tea.  

Speaking of soothing for my throat, maybe I'll cook up some oats for breakfast.  Not that instant oatmeal, or even rolled oats.  I love, and have a largish jar of, stone ground oats.  They take a while to cook, but they are soooooo good.  Maybe with some frozen blueberries and yogurt on top.  Sounds good, but I'm sure the taste will be muted and cardboard-ish.

Oh, in a bit of drift but somewhat related, I was reading the other day someone making a reference to a sudy done as a joke in the '80's regarding the 'healthfullness' of breakfast cereals.  One group of rats was fed breakfast cereal, one group was fed rat food, and one was fed the cardboard box the cereal came in.  The rat food group was the healthiest,  and all of the cereal rats did the worst.  Apparently, the last cereal-fed rat died on the same day the first cardboard fed rat died.  Something about the extrusion process destroying all the nutrition in the cereal.  Anyways, maybe I'll use some of my sprare time to track that down.  And get the oats boiling.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on October 02, 2006, 12:04:08 PM
I just now listened to a message on my phone and guess what!?!?!?   :panic

Jack Layton has just asked me out on a date with him!!!  8)   How did he get my phone number? He spoke to me in English and then in French.  I guess that he didn't know that he could have just spoken in French.  The NDP is having a big event on Thursday evening and he asked me to go!!!

Oh ... wait.   :oops: Do you think that was a computer-generated phone call with a pre-recorded message.  Darn.

Well for all of you living in Ottawa, and that includes you too vicky, the event is in the evening, at St-Paul University (I'm searching for an online link).  If you see me there, I won't be hanging onto Jack's arm.  Or his words.   :(
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Post by: pogge on October 02, 2006, 12:08:25 PM
Robocalls are the work of the devil.
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 05, 2006, 08:38:08 AM
Just back from a long walk with the dog, and I realized I'm 57 today. Yay me! :D
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Post by: skdadl on October 05, 2006, 08:40:05 AM
Happy Birthday, Boom Boom! Still a spring chicken, too.

Let's have some boom boom.

:party4
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Post by: Caissa on October 05, 2006, 08:41:42 AM
Happy Birthday, Boom Boom. Take a long walk for me. I can do with losing 5 lbs.
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Post by: steffie on October 05, 2006, 08:43:16 AM
Happy Birthday, Boom Boom.   :party3
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Post by: Debra on October 05, 2006, 08:44:08 AM
:piratedance  :party1  :flowers
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Post by: brebis noire on October 05, 2006, 08:47:33 AM
Happy Birthday Boom Boom!

Only 57 eh? Spring chicken!  :rainbowpirate
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 05, 2006, 08:51:12 AM
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Happy Birthday, Boom Boom. Take a long walk for me. I can do with losing 5 lbs.


Heh. I have another long walk with the dog probably around noon, and then after supper - if her owners don't return today. I'm badly allergic to Cassie inside the house - outside I'm okay. I've been taking antihistamines for two weeks because of the dog, so I'll be happy to return her. She's a good walking companion, but the house is now full of sand and dog hair - I clean every day, but can't get it all out. Once the dog is gone, I'll move and clean behind every piece of furninture. As you probably know, I was thrilled to find I've gone down from 194 just before getting the dog, to 180 this past Monday. Three hours of walking daily with the dog will do that. :)
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Post by: Caissa on October 05, 2006, 08:54:57 AM
Congrats on the weight loss. I'm 185 and rising... :(
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 05, 2006, 08:55:23 AM
I'm the youngest in my family, and with my turning 57 today, all of us have outlived my dad who died of cancer in 1970 at 56, so that's an interesting thing to reflect upon. Me mudder died at 70 in 1989 from a variety of ailments.
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 05, 2006, 08:57:13 AM
Quote from: Caissa
Congrats on the weight loss. I'm 185 and rising... :(


Go for a long walk - every day. :)
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Post by: Caissa on October 05, 2006, 09:01:20 AM
I'm sure glad I didn't have to pay for that advice.  :D
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Post by: skdadl on October 05, 2006, 09:01:58 AM
Well, and in your line of work, Boom Boom -- excuse me, your former line of work -- I guess every successive birthday feels like an achievement.   :wink:
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 05, 2006, 09:03:09 AM
:rotfl:  Well, it worked for me.
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Post by: sparqui on October 05, 2006, 03:07:57 PM
Happy Birthday Boom Boom! :champagne  :party3  :arr!:
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 05, 2006, 03:33:08 PM
Thanks to all for your good wishes. *sniff* :lol:
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Post by: k'in on October 05, 2006, 03:43:48 PM
Happy B-Day Boom Boom!  And congratulations on all the exercise paying off.  Walking's great isn't it?
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 05, 2006, 04:48:31 PM
I love walking and cycling. I still don't understand how I managed to balloon up to 194 early this year. Anyway, I'm at my normal 180, and hope I can stay there - it'll be difficult walking in the winter, as the snow is not removed (we're in a remote location).  Guess I'll have to cut down on the food if I can't keep the exercise up.
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Post by: steffie on October 05, 2006, 09:03:00 PM
What am I doing?  Sitting here thinking to myself, "You should be out there walking..."  and lo, and behold: Boom Boom's words on TAT - "I love walking and cycling."  Is this a sign from the great, limitless expanse of intelligence?  By which of course I mean the internet.   :P

Seriously, I'm hoping to do a lot of walking this season, with my more central location and and *upstairs* in this house.  The 14 stairs I encounter every day better be doing something great to my backside!   :?
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 05, 2006, 09:10:02 PM
My computer room and wood furnace are both in the basement, and my woodshed is some distance from the house, as is the garage/workshop, not to mention the various gardens, so I'm exercising my legs quite a bit every day, aside from all the walking with the dog. :dog_wagging:

ETA: Oh, and I'm up at around 5 am every morning to feed the birds (I've got seven feeding stations) and let the dog out. I think the dog's owners return tomorrow - I hope so, anyway, as I'm allergic to it.
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Post by: The Hegemo on October 05, 2006, 09:42:34 PM
Happy Birthday, Boom Boom!  :arr!:
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Post by: Gigi on October 05, 2006, 10:09:31 PM
Happy happy Boom Boom Day!
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 05, 2006, 11:22:22 PM
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Happy happy Boom Boom Day!


Boom Boom Day - I could get used to that. :rotfl:
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Post by: kuri on October 05, 2006, 11:33:20 PM
Happy birthday, Boom boom!

(Took me awhile to find where you said it was your birthday! I was wondering how everyone knew be me....  :panic )

Will there be a special celebration?  :spy: ;)
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 06, 2006, 03:02:35 AM
Quote from: kuri
Will there be a special celebration?


Heh. Being alive to celebrate another day is celebration enough, you get my drift?  :spy:  :dance
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Post by: skdadl on October 06, 2006, 05:20:03 AM
I was wondering about that -- if we're up and down stairs all day every day, do we get to count that as exercise? If so, give me a little gold star in my exercise book.  :)
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Post by: steffie on October 06, 2006, 07:34:53 AM
Just ask my knees.  They'll *ouch* for me.  ;)
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Post by: skdadl on October 06, 2006, 07:46:39 AM
Nice pun, steffie. :)

Yesterday I started to clean my fridge -- first major clean in two-plus years, and it had to be done -- a few times this summer, I guess, I let a cucumber here, a sweet pepper there go bad -- isn't it remarkable how sticky the juices that rotted veggies release are?   :oops:

Anyway, when I pulled the crispers out to wash the frame, guess what I found. Dust! There is dust in my fridge! How on earth? There are even cat hairs, but I semi-expect that -- one cat or another will always come for a peek when I open the door.

But dust! How does dust get into a fridge?
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Post by: steffie on October 06, 2006, 07:53:46 AM
It must have been deposited during all those times you were standing in front of the open door thinking..."Oh, what am I hungry for...?  And, where did I put that cucumber...?"   :lol:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 06, 2006, 12:06:02 PM
I just zipped a huge index for a psychology book to the editor and ruined his weekend. Yay! And I'm going to take all three -- three -- days off. OFF, I tell you. We're doing a communal turkey dinner on Saturday. Must buy stuff.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Timebandit on October 06, 2006, 03:43:14 PM
I am about to round up my two kids and Ms T's buddy, Mr W, and head off to the library so they can watch a movie while I deal with a bagful of work I've gathered for myself.  Phone can't ring at the library...  Well, the cel could, but probably won't on a Friday afternoon, the kids will feel like they've had a big treat (I think they'll be watching "The Wild"), and I'll feel like I've gotten something accomplished and reduce the stack of paper on my desk.

It's been a wacky week, and still lots to do (But IT'S ALL GOOD.  I keep reminding myself that IT'S ALL GOOD.  My new mantra.).  Luckily, my ma feels sorry for me and is making T-giving dinner without my input.  Yay!   :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on October 06, 2006, 04:29:43 PM
I'm off to the after hours clinic, I've been putting it off for over a week now.

I have a lung infection I think and my breathing is becoming quite difficult.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 06, 2006, 04:31:02 PM
Take care, chick.  *heart*
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 06, 2006, 04:37:36 PM
Hope it's nothing serious. I have a sinus cold, and allergies to the dog I'm looking after (owners were supposed to be back yesterday, no sign of them yet), but both are manageable.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on October 06, 2006, 04:49:58 PM
Good luck Debra. Chest infections are nasty.

Some CEO from a health organization in Toronto is in town to give a presentation to the regional health authority and was interviewed on CBC's local noon radio show. She is under the impression that infectious diseases have been virtually wiped out (first wave medical crises) and that we should be focusing on chronic disease prevention and self-health maintenance. My spidey senses go off when I hear stuff like this -- it advocates for the shift of healthcare funding from treatment of acute and chronic conditions.

I also think infectious diseases are still very much a problem -- there is a rise in TB for one and all sorts of superbugs are developing that don't respond to anti-biotics.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on October 06, 2006, 09:27:24 PM
I have pnumonia *fuck teh spelling i'm sick* apparently fairly badly

Chest xray, two puffers one with steriods, biaxin, and prednizone the latter I decided not to fill and after seeing it on teh web HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/drug ... 01102.html (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/medmaster/a601102.html)

So I may be slow to get to things.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 06, 2006, 09:31:08 PM
Ah hell, Debra. Pneumonia is such a drag and takes so long to recover from. Be good to yourself.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on October 06, 2006, 10:07:26 PM
Oh Debra I'm so sorry. Take care please. My husband was in H for an entire month last year (December) he got it in November of course, and I am watching every wee silly sputum he spews. Sick huh? But I can't help it, I am so worried the next one will be the end. Just me. But he has no immune, you do, you will beat it very fast. Keep us updated please.
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Post by: sparqui on October 06, 2006, 10:45:10 PM
I'm so very sorry too Debra. Make sure you get all the rest you need to recover.

I read the page on Prednisone and those side effects are frightening. Did the doctor say why he figured you needed it in addition to the steroids and anti-biotic?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 07, 2006, 06:24:16 AM
Och, Debra, I'm sorry to hear this. I hope that your elves are pampering you.

Prednisone rings faint bells in connection with my mother, who had some troubles with her legs (nerve damage and arthritis). I'll ask one of the smarter sisters.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Agent 204 on October 07, 2006, 07:57:28 AM
Ouch. I'm sorry too. Get well soon.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 07, 2006, 12:00:36 PM
I have an idea.   :idea:

Let's cheer up.   :wink:

This board has become glum. How did we get glum? Ok: scratch that question -- if we start thinking how and why, we will get glum again.

Unglum: it is really a beautiful fall day here at the moment, utterly clear blue sky, still not cold enough to turn on furnace, fresh air ... yay.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 07, 2006, 12:09:26 PM
Initiating deglumming procedures. . .  It is a gorgeous day and we're doing communal turkey cooking tomorrow. Just three of us. I'm doing caesar salad and punkin pie. sweetie is doing his mother's turkey stuffing (he called her last night to make sure he had it right) and friend is loaning her house with regulation stove/oven and nice dishes and she's also doing vegetables and, most importantly, gravy. Yum.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on October 07, 2006, 12:25:26 PM
Well yeah sounds good. I just did my cranberries. And I can't believe how 48 hours can change everything. After bad news with Sask review, we've had one article published in HR Reporting (fabulous editor there) a tv station has contacted us : a docu on unsafe workplaces and I've just been told I have been sponsored to go to Ottawa for a anti-poverty roundtable. Yikes  :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 07, 2006, 12:27:16 PM
I'm washing the kitty beds. Well, the covers for the kitty beds.

Boy, if you have allergies, don't visit us. Even I think those beds get overwhelming. How can they lose so much hair and still look hairy?

Between all the fur and the wee spots of toss-up, we are quite disgusting at the moment. Floor washing, coming up.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 07, 2006, 01:30:23 PM
Heh. I was having an afternoon nap when the dog rolled her plastic donut under the bed; it woke me up, I could hear the dog trying to get the donut back and eventually had to do it myself  :x  because her infernal scratching was driving me nuts. It's a cold windy day here and she didn't want to stay out after our walk. Now she wants another walk. Her owners were supposed to be back Thursday but have stayed out longer to shop before coming home.  :x  :x  :x  :x  Can't get mad at the dog for her owner's shortcomings. :(
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 07, 2006, 03:19:14 PM
My bricklefritz toilet is clogged. I'm giving myself a callus on my palm trying to clear the thing.

I made the mistake of trying to flush a length of paper towel that I'd used on the floor. Argh. I am too stupid to live.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: brebis noire on October 07, 2006, 03:22:13 PM
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My bricklefritz toilet is clogged.


I guess you'll have to go back to using your regular one then.  :)
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Post by: skdadl on October 07, 2006, 03:28:08 PM
Very funny, Scheherazade.  :wink:

Eckshully, as it happens, although this place has NO BATHTUB, it does have three toilets, so I have some options in a situation like this. I could hope that nature would take its course on the cloggy paper towels in the one toilet and just stop ruining my hands trying to beat the thing into submission. I could do that. But its presumption is not amusing me.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 07, 2006, 03:31:14 PM
Ok, I just consulted Der Uberdoozer (aka sweetie) on your problem, skdadl. He says that a plunger works much better as a sucking (you should pardon the word) tool than a pushing tool. So are you to push or suck (you should pardon etc.)?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 07, 2006, 03:40:44 PM
Could you ask Der Uberdoozer to expand a little on the finer distinctions between "push" and "suck"?  (As long as he's not expanding in the nether reaches of my plumbing.)

I do have the proper kind of plunger, not the little sink kind but the kind with the interior whatever-it-is doohickey.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: brebis noire on October 07, 2006, 04:00:19 PM
In addition to a plunger, every household should have one of these (http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/0-848)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 07, 2006, 04:00:44 PM
He says that commercials for that aerosol plumber in a can stuff has people thinking that downward force will push the blockage down and out. However, if you can get a good seal with the plunger, push down as much as you can, then give a sharp tug up to use the suction to suck the blockage up. Repeat as necessary or call the Rotorooter Man.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 07, 2006, 04:04:17 PM
Hokay. Have to go out for a bit now. Will come back and try again, hoping that paper will have disintegrated further in an hour or so.

Scheherazade, we call that thing a snake, and at whatever point snakes are needed in my toilets, I cut out and hand over to the skilled tradesguys.

Wah! I don't have a bathtub, and my toilet is clogged. Wah!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 07, 2006, 06:19:27 PM
My sympathies, luv.  And, I don't mean to be snarky, a wiseass, or downright mean, but I grew up knowing one nevers flushes paper towels down the toilet, especially in quantity. They're way too dense. That's what the washroom trash can is for. Wish you were here - I've a lovely bathtub  :bath  (but no rubber ducky).  The shower hasn't been installed yet, but soon.  :blahblah
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 07, 2006, 06:25:20 PM
I just tried Der Uberdoozer's method. Repeatedly. Still not working.

At least the bluidy thing isn't flooding. Yet.

*rrrrrrr*
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Mandos on October 07, 2006, 06:33:48 PM
I'm late to this discussion, but have you tried pouring boiling water down it?  Careful, though.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on October 07, 2006, 06:50:08 PM
Boiling water down a toilet-no!  You can (probably will) break the ceramic bowl.  However, for most drains (sink, i.e) pouring a kettle of boiling water down the drain is the ideal thing to do as regular maintenance to keep things clear.

The best plunger I've come across is one of these:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/sunsplashyorkie/MP-DB.gif)

One of the first (and best) web sites I ever checked out was: http://www.toiletology.com (http://www.toiletology.com)  

If it's a regulation paper towel (not a wet wipe), it should break down on it's own, probably overnight.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Mandos on October 07, 2006, 06:55:26 PM
OK, it has worked for me in the past but maybe I got lucky.  Hot non-boiling water, maybe?  That's worked for me too.  I'm trying to think of ways to chemically accelerate the disintegration of the paper.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Herr Magoo on October 07, 2006, 07:53:14 PM
There is one last option.  The plan so horrid, it dare not speak its name.  The plan so crazy it's just crazy enough to work.  That's right.  Reach in.

After that, apply boiling water to hands.  :O
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 07, 2006, 10:06:07 PM
Isn't there a danger of getting your arm stuck doing that?  :shock:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: steffie on October 08, 2006, 09:08:14 AM
Yes, he could be in it up to his elbows, so to speak. ;) Or hers if skdadl would ever think of doing this.  Which I'm pretty sure she's not.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 08, 2006, 10:08:48 AM
I've tried once this morning -- still no luck.

It's sort of getting to me. I won't call for help until Tuesday, but it is getting to me.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Américain Égalitaire on October 08, 2006, 01:57:36 PM
Skdadl,

Don't feel bad about this. As smart a guy as I think I am, I did exactly what you did - flush paper towels down the toilet.

And learned an expensive lesson. You can't fix this - the towels are at the base of your soil pipe where they will most assuredly NOT dissolve anytime soon.

Sorry to say, you need to call roto rooter before the backup (you aren't flushing that toilet now, right) runs all over the floor of wherever the drain goes into the floor (in my case it was the basement and I wouldn't have noticed it except for the 'what's that funny smell' reaction).

By the time I discovered it, sewage water was all over the floor and heading for the carpet.

I was told you could flush a pair of golf balls in this new toilet. That's true but it doesn't mean that things you can theoretically flush will actually flow all the way out to the street.

sorry, really. I've been where you are right now.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: gunnar gunnarson on October 08, 2006, 02:10:13 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Och, Debra, I'm sorry to hear this. I hope that your elves are pampering you.


I hope your elvis is pampering you. (http://faccine.forumfree.net/elvis.gif)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 08, 2006, 02:15:21 PM
Oh. Dear. Argh.

Well, I can wait till Tuesday, so I will. I belong to a thing called Home Service Club which sends out emergency people like plumbers very quickly when you call, except they always charge more on holidays, of course.

Me. Thanksgiving long weekend. Yup: it figures.  *fume*
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on October 08, 2006, 02:29:42 PM
Quote from: gunnar gunnarson
Quote from: skdadl
Och, Debra, I'm sorry to hear this. I hope that your elves are pampering you.

I hope your elvis is pampering you. (http://faccine.forumfree.net/elvis.gif)


We have an Elvis smiley?

Why was I not told?! Oh, waittaminute... it's from another place. Nemmine...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on October 08, 2006, 04:35:52 PM
I'm sorry to hear that the toilet is still not working skdadl -- very frustrating that.

Had major problems with ours earlier today but thanks to this thread, I managed to stop a back-up disaster. Used a combo of Herr Magoo and k'in's advice -- pull up rather than my usual push down approach.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 08, 2006, 04:40:26 PM
Well, I'm hoping that AE's "don't flush" advice only applies to that toilet. I mean, I gotta flush the other toilet. Like, people can see that, yes? TMI?   :oops:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: gunnar gunnarson on October 08, 2006, 06:10:16 PM
Quote from: 'lance
[quote="gunnar gunnarson":3tztg9ff]
Quote from: skdadl
Och, Debra, I'm sorry to hear this. I hope that your elves are pampering you.

I hope your elvis is pampering you. (http://faccine.forumfree.net/elvis.gif)

We have an Elvis smiley?

Why was I not told?! Oh, waittaminute... it's from another place. Nemmine...[/quote:3tztg9ff]

As our reigning gril goddess, only Debra rates her own personal Elvis.  And it's huuuuuge.

I'm just sayin' it's a big Elvis.(http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/elvis.gif)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Américain Égalitaire on October 08, 2006, 07:51:02 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Well, I'm hoping that AE's "don't flush" advice only applies to that toilet. I mean, I gotta flush the other toilet. Like, people can see that, yes? TMI?   :oops:


Oh drat. Hadn't thought of that. Check where your other toilets all connect at the soil pipe that goes to the street. It all depends on where the clog is. If its before where your other soil pipes connect, you're OK. Unfortunately you'll find out in the worst possible way.

If in doubt, flush judiciously until the rooter folks arrive.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on October 08, 2006, 08:23:36 PM
It's not often you hear the advice, flush judiciously  :D

Reminded me of a room-mate I had who would hand her brother a plunger when he came for visits. She didn't believe in taking any chances  :)

ETA: correct Freudian slip
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 09, 2006, 06:53:29 AM
Heh. It's funny but true: for some reason, guests often screw up the toilet. I don't know why that is, but it is a phenom.

It seems to me that our toilets have become more, ah, sensitive over the years. The alt toilets in this place are sort of mini, water-saving devices, installed by my hyper-environmentally correct predecessor, and I learned to talk nice to them very early on.

I thought the main one was tougher than that, though.   :(  :oops:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on October 09, 2006, 11:36:14 AM
Ah ... plumbing and pipes in old houses.   :shock:   Many women's shelters are located in large, older buildings that have been only functionally re-purposed to suit their new vocation. As a result, toilet back-ups are frequent.  There are now signs - in many languages - listing what cannot be safely flushed down.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on October 10, 2006, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: gunnar gunnarson
As our reigning gril goddess, only Debra rates her own personal Elvis.  And it's huuuuuge.

I'm just sayin' it's a big Elvis.(http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/elvis.gif)


Definitely preferable to your own personal Jesus, I'm guessing, or at least more fun.

But also definitely intriguing, given the real Elvis's (alleged) nickname for his... ah, but this is a fambly-type board, here.

ETA:

But where are my manners? Sorry to hear you're sick, Debra, and get well soon.

And as for what skdadl said about the elves... always remember, elves is everywhere. (http://www.geocities.com/multielvi/mojo.html)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Américain Égalitaire on October 10, 2006, 06:14:43 PM
So Skdadl, gotta ask - does the mother of waters now flow unvexed to the street?  :lol:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 10, 2006, 07:47:54 PM
I painted and puttied the garage (actually a barn) window frames today, and cleaned the truck - dog hair everywhere. Speaking of dogs, Cassie comes over ever couple of hours to say 'hi' and play. Napped on my doorstep yesterday. I went out to feed the birds (seven feeding stations...) at 6 am and Cassie got her owners out of bed so she could come over and play 'chase the birds away'. :shock:  Anyway, the birds are well fed and watered, the dog is only there for a few moments. A bit of an exotic visitor today: a mourning dove. I had the windows closed so I wasn't able to hear it - just watched it eating away. Speaking of the barn, the former and original owners let the window frames deteriorate - the glass was about to fall out. They're okay now. Why some people don't protect their investment escapes me. :roll:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 11, 2006, 05:41:20 AM
Quote from: gunnar gunnarson

I'm just sayin' it's a big Elvis.(http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/elvis.gif)


Hey! I can tell what that Elvis is singing!  

Bee bop a loo bop.  :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 11, 2006, 05:46:20 AM
And speaking of loos:

Quote from: Américain Égalitaire
So Skdadl, gotta ask - does the mother of waters now flow unvexed to the street?  :lol:


The guy with the roto-rooter is coming over after 11 this a.m. If I'd been an emergency, he would have come yesterday, but I talked nice with him (figuring that would get me a financial consideration) and agreed to fit into his schedule.

Stay tuned.

Hell. I don't have a thing to wear. And I have to clean the whole place before he gets here.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 11, 2006, 08:36:35 AM
Quote from: skdadl
Hell. I don't have a thing to wear. And I have to clean the whole place before he gets here.


Why? Will he be staying for tea?  :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 11, 2006, 08:46:02 AM
Quote from: Boom Boom
Why? Will he be staying for tea?  :wink:


God help me, I hope not.

I was just doing my hopelessly neurotic woman number, Boom Boom. It helps me to get in touch with my roots when I'm nervous.   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 11, 2006, 09:04:23 AM
I was imagining that you'd have something romantic planned - you know, candles, perfume, naughty nightgown... :ducking
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Post by: skdadl on October 11, 2006, 09:11:33 AM
Boom Boom:   :duck
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 11, 2006, 09:18:21 AM
:rotfl:
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Post by: Herr Magoo on October 11, 2006, 09:45:02 AM
Is that "duck off"?   :)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 11, 2006, 01:09:33 PM
Ok. The deed is done.

It took the nice man about five minutes with the snake, which only goes three feet in. We then spent fifteen minutes checking out everything else. All ok. Cost: $95.

I am a nervous wreck, and I will never trust that toilet again.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: brebis noire on October 11, 2006, 01:27:05 PM
You could, if you had a snake of your own.  :wink:
We have one, somewhere, never had to use it but how hard can it be? Stick it in and start turning the handle?
In the meantime, you'll have to resort to the old trick we use in the country - get a closed garbage can and use it for all paper items.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 11, 2006, 01:31:19 PM
When I was consulting Der Uberdoozer on your behalf, skdadl, he revealed that he has a snake, but couldn't put it in a cab for you, because he'd recently lent it to a new home-owner. Wow, the things one doesn't know about one's fiance. Got me wondering -- what else don't I know after a mere 32 years?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on October 11, 2006, 07:13:33 PM
Quote from: fern hill
When I was consulting Der Uberdoozer on your behalf, skdadl, he revealed that he has a snake, ...
Wow!  :shock:  you are betrothed to a man who owns a snake.  What else has he got up his sleeves ... power tools?  Better marry that one quick!   :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 11, 2006, 07:47:30 PM
Ha. When I wrote that I bet self that deBeauxOs would have a snappy remark, but I thought it would be more, um, specifically about the snake. You don't disappoint,dBO, but you do surprise. We like that in a person.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on October 11, 2006, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: fern hill
Ha. When I wrote that I bet self that deBeauxOs would have a snappy remark, but I thought it would be more, um, specifically about the snake. You don't disappoint,dBO, but you do surprise. We like that in a person.
We are gratified that you appreciate our contribution.  :bunny
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: radiorahim on October 11, 2006, 11:53:28 PM
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When I was consulting Der Uberdoozer on your behalf, skdadl, he revealed that he has a snake, but couldn't put it in a cab for you, because he'd recently lent it to a new home-owner. Wow, the things one doesn't know about one's fiance. Got me wondering -- what else don't I know after a mere 32 years?


Hey...what's wrong with owning a snake?   I've got one somewhere around here...probably take me a couple of hours of hunting through "stuff" to find it though ;)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 12, 2006, 06:44:24 AM
Well, nothing at all is wrong with owning one, obviously, especially if it costs less than 95 bucks.

Tell me, rr: have you ever used yours? So far we have not heard from a user. I didn't watch the whole time that the plumber was working, but it sure makes one hell of a noise. I feared for the ceramic bowl, but then I suppose the noise comes from the snake's action in the pipes.

But, so, like, my question is: given that it makes that gawdawful noise, is it hard work? My arms are moderately strong, although overdoing things can send them into a funny kind of paralysis. Does it take a strapping person to work, or could li'l ole moi do it?
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Post by: k'in on October 12, 2006, 07:17:36 AM
skdadl-I have one but never have had to use it yet.  Paper towels can be perplexing (they don't break down like tissue).  You don't need strength but apparently you can go too rough with it.

Anyhow, here is a site with the instructions on how to use a toilet auger:

http://www.acmehowto.com/howto/homemain ... -auger.php (http://www.acmehowto.com/howto/homemaintenance/plumbing/clogs/how-to-use-closet-auger.php)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 12, 2006, 07:22:49 AM
Thank you, k'in. Auger. Better word.   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 12, 2006, 11:50:46 AM
I was supposed to put my truck on the supply ship this coming Sunday morning for the ride to Nastashquan, and then drive to Sept-Iles for a couple of days. The ship is now delayed at least 24 hours - which cuts into 24 hours of my shopping time as I wouldn't get to Sept-Iles until Monday afternoon instead of Sunday afternoon (the ship makes up time during the week so it will be returning to Natashquan on Thursday as per the regular schedule).  To get on the ship Thursday morning, one has to stay overnight in Natashquan Wednesday night (ship baords at 600 am Thursday but the truck has to be on the dock by 5 am). I think I'll postpone my trip out to the following Sunday.
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Post by: lagatta on October 12, 2006, 12:01:48 PM
Oh, good. We can make a shopping list for Boom Boom!

Don't forget the frozen spinach! (for a source of greens in the winter). - if you have a way of keeping food frozen in the truck, that is - if not, better to order it from the big supermarket.

Tinned salmon WITH the bones (great source of calcium). Also see skdadl's list of nice tinned foods.

And a good bottle or two. I know you don't drink much, but nice to treat yourself (and any visitors) when you do.
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Post by: Boom Boom on October 12, 2006, 12:08:36 PM
My shopping list, including travel, accomodation, and meals, is now at $4000. Can't afford to add to that, given that I've paid $9000 cash this year for the house (down payment), lawyer, and renovation supplies. I'm at the limit of my budget for this year.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on October 12, 2006, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Well, nothing at all is wrong with owning one, obviously, especially if it costs less than 95 bucks. ...
skdadl, I just had a scathingly brilliant idea.  Why doncha buy one and then put up a sign at your little corner store, you know, 'Have snake Will travel' ...  :wink:  You could prolly make loads of undeclared cash unblocking the toilets of the neighbourhood residents.  :shock:  You know, old houses and their distracted occupants.   :)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Herr Magoo on October 12, 2006, 01:20:21 PM
Think of all the things you really don't want to know about your neighbours.  

"Well, Mr. Jones, your toilet appeared to be blocked by three pairs of pantyhose and a wig.  That'll be a hundred bucks for the snaking, and another hundred for my silence."
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 12, 2006, 01:26:24 PM
After all the time I have spent trying to duck my neighbours, you come up with this hare-brained scheme, deBeauxOs???  

Duck:  :duck

Hare:   :bunny

Duck again:   :ducking
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 13, 2006, 08:28:36 AM
Drat. The supply ship is now 28 hours behind schedule due to stormy conditions a huge ocean swell. It's still anchored in Havre St. Pierre, ten hours away, so it'll be about 36 hours behind schedule when it finally gets here. Dunno if I'll be boarding yet - I don't fancy driving the truck from Natashquan to Sept-Iles in the dark (moose and other animals on the road, and a series of really bad curves). I'll tyry and get some good photos of the ocean swell later.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 13, 2006, 08:34:06 AM
Ooh, Boom Boom: I sympathize with your plight, but for us over-domesticated city types, your reports are actually exciting. It's like being able to listen to the shipping news in Britain.  :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 13, 2006, 08:41:05 AM
I was over at the wharf at 7 this morning, and when I got out of the truck, it started moving on the wet cement because the wind was so strong. I moved it behind the shed and set the parking brake and it was okay (yes, the wind was moving a truck around). The Kegaska entry passage is churning just like an Osterizer blender - instead of blender blades, there's sharp and very huge rocks. Won't be any supply ship here today. I'm going out for a photo soon.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on October 13, 2006, 11:25:34 AM
Quote from: Boom Boom
I was over at the wharf at 7 this morning, and when I got out of the truck, it started moving on the wet cement because the wind was so strong.


Well, it could of was worse, Boom Boom. Last time I drove a truck onto wet cement, it never moved again. The truck's owner was not pleased, no, not a little bit.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 13, 2006, 11:56:19 AM
Heh. I meant I parked the truck at the dock, which is made of cement. It's hard, and with the cold wet wind, almost like ice - a bit slippery. It's a very strong wind, still - was just over there, terrible conditions, still.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Sleeping Sun on October 13, 2006, 12:44:21 PM
I'm pretty sure I've posted this this exact same thing, but right now I'm studiously avoiding working.  Once again.

My manager just took off for the weekend, my tummy is churning it's way uncomfortably though lunch (I am SOOO sick of roast beef, I used to love it, but now I don't want to ever see it again), and the sun has disappeared outside making me think I should run for cover (ie. home) before the rain starts up again.

No one will notice if I leave early, will they?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on October 13, 2006, 12:50:10 PM
no of course not and besides the manager is gone who are they going to tell?  :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: chcmd on October 13, 2006, 12:59:56 PM
Me too - I'm donning my cloaking device and sliding away . . . my boss has gone to a meeting in another building, sooooooooooo, well, I'm OUTTA HERE! :arr!:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on October 13, 2006, 04:23:51 PM
I haven't been online in a while. Do you miss me? Okay, you don't have to answer that. Yawn. I'm too sleepy to wade through all the seemingly interesting threads. Maybe after my nap.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Nikita on October 13, 2006, 04:30:18 PM
Right now, I'm having a coffee-withdrawal headache.  I just want to lay down in a dark room and sleep for about 8 hours.  Man that would be awesome.   :hangover

What I'm actually going to do is run all over the building dropping off memo's and make small chat with other secretaries.  I love my job!  *grumble grumble*

Hi eph!  :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on October 13, 2006, 04:41:02 PM
Quote from: Nikita
What I'm actually going to do is run all over the building dropping off memo's and make small chat with other secretaries.  I love my job!  *grumble grumble*


Oh, I do that too. I love it! It gets me out of my chair, and I get a really nice long walk all around the building.

Hope your headache goes away. Are you going cold turkey on the coffee? I'm going cold turkey on the alkeyhawl.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 13, 2006, 05:05:17 PM
Well, I didn't miss you, eph. It's been inephably eph-free.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on October 13, 2006, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: skdadl
After all the time I have spent trying to duck my neighbours, you come up with this hare-brained scheme, deBeauxOs???  
 You don't have to say that it's you - show up in a disguise - a kinda po-mo Calamity Jane twirling her snake like a six-shooter.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 13, 2006, 05:11:54 PM
:lol:

Och, there was a time I coulda done that, deBeauxOs. I coulda bin a contendah.   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Nikita on October 13, 2006, 05:23:07 PM
Quote from: ephemeral
Oh, I do that too. I love it! It gets me out of my chair, and I get a really nice long walk all around the building.
Hope your headache goes away. Are you going cold turkey on the coffee? I'm going cold turkey on the alkeyhawl.

Yup, cold turkey.  Unintentionally - my little coffee maker at home melted (don't ask me how I did that) and I can't drink the coffee at work, it's disgusting.  There is a coffee shop near my place, but not really near enough to hit up before I go to work in the morning, since I walk.  Anyway, I'm in the market for a French press, a friend of mine has one and loves it so I'm going to try one out.

Usually I like it the memo-run, it's fun to get out of my own office for about 40 minutes and visit.  Just not today... it feels like my eyeballs are being pushed out of the sockets from behind.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 13, 2006, 05:30:47 PM
The memo run. I worked at the Royal Ontario Museum yonks ago, before its last renovation. I was the juniorest, so I got sent on errands. Fun part was that many of the offices were tucked into unlikely spaces. I'd get directions like: 'Go into the European gallery, turn right at the ormulu clock and you'll see a door'. And by golly, there'd be a door there that somehow over years of visiting the place I'd never seen. And for the first little while at least I could claim that I got lost and go visit my favourite stuff.  Ah, the old Museum, before they fucked it up by dumbing it down.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on October 13, 2006, 06:47:05 PM
When I was a young mother married to the liberal entitlement guy the ROM was my escape.  Actually that sounds stupid, I was never a young mother, crist I had her at 34. Okay so when I wanted to escape the Homes and Garden clubby life I would spend hours at the Museum. All. By. Myself.
It was glorious. At least once a week. Then the bloody idjits started calling my house so I would take out a Family membership. Nooooooo, don't call here, not ever I'd say. Why they'd ask. Becooooz, I'd say, it's my Secret.  

:lol:  

But it is still a delicious memory. And oh how I envy you having a wee job there. Those doors, you think I didn't notice? I noticed. In England , going thru the castles I would always climb over the don't-climb-over-the-velvet-tassled-ropes to get thru those doors. Hee!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 13, 2006, 06:53:07 PM
Yeah, very fond memories for me too. In Grade 13, one could sign oneself out of school. And the ROM was free for students. I spent many hours there. Funny, I love stuff, looking at it, yet have no desire to own it.

Another fabulous museum semi-fucked up is the Victoria and Albert. I saw it first in the 1980s and fell in love. It was so jammed with such wonderful stuff. Revisited in the 1990s and it had been dumbed down too. Not so much as the ROM, but still. Toby mugs! Cases of Toby mugs!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on October 13, 2006, 06:57:06 PM
Mugs? Aghh. I took me D to the shoe museum last year. To remind her of how important her feet an ankles are. When the shoes (curly toes) were stolen we were all aflutter over it. They got them back didn't they? Yes and they had been WORN, they could tell. I love that. I kept thinking about some idjit like myself stoned, dancing around the room with those shoes on.

ETA My timing may be off. No sense of time.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: gunnar gunnarson on October 13, 2006, 07:01:32 PM
Quote from: brebis noire
how hard can it be? Stick it in and start turning the handle?


Let's e-mail that to Gwen Landolt with a subject line that reads "Sex Education."
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: gunnar gunnarson on October 13, 2006, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: deBeauxOs
Quote from: skdadl
After all the time I have spent trying to duck my neighbours, you come up with this hare-brained scheme, deBeauxOs???  
 You don't have to say that it's you - show up in a disguise - a kinda po-mo Calamity Jane twirling her snake like a six-shooter.


Gosh, bonesy -- between that and the Groucho tux and the cigars, your costume budget must be huuuuuuuge.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on October 13, 2006, 07:08:17 PM
Speaking of Calamity Jane -- that's what I call great thread tie-in (http://www.breadnroses.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18281&start=0).
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 13, 2006, 07:12:28 PM
Oh! Was it Calamity Jane? I thought it was Annie Oakley. I could be wrong. I always mix them up.   :oops:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on October 13, 2006, 07:28:07 PM
It was Annie Oakley, remember?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 13, 2006, 07:29:45 PM
No, now I'm thinking that it was Calamity Jane.

I'm a little vague on American history of this kind, I gotta admit. I learned most of it from Doris Day movies.   :oops:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on October 13, 2006, 07:31:36 PM
Ok have it your way. What do I know, I'm on my 2nd glass of Chardonnay and Marley has me blissful. I was thinking of the post so long ago it seems, yet it couldn't be, where I asked you to put on a Annie Oakley costume, for my benefit. Or was it Calamity Jane?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 13, 2006, 07:36:14 PM
Well, I gotta warn you now, Toe: I have already segued into Lily Langtree.

It's 'lance's fault. Young people and their film-historical precisions. There oughta be a law.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on October 13, 2006, 07:36:38 PM
Quote from: Toedancer
It was Annie Oakley, remember?

But really, Toedancer. skdadl, whatever she may say, isn't that old...

Quote from: skdadl
It's 'lance's fault. Young people and their film-historical precisions. There oughta be a law.


I first read this as "film-historical pretensions," and was all, like, "What? You gotta problem with that? Of course I'm pretentious, goddammit..." etc. & so forth.

"Precisions." Please.

(... hey! She called me "young"!  8) )
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on October 13, 2006, 07:42:20 PM
I'm listening to Marley, it all sounds too ambitious to me.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on October 13, 2006, 07:44:12 PM
Yeah, ol' Jacob cut some classic 78s, all right. Though a little too heavy on the chain-clanking and ghostly wailing for me, somehow.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 13, 2006, 07:46:06 PM
:rotfl:
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Post by: skdadl on October 13, 2006, 07:56:07 PM
G'night, all.

I'm 'way past my time, as the kitties are reminding me. This has been a wonderfully restorative evening pour moi, though. Bless you all. God bless Debra, and all who sail in her.   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 13, 2006, 08:00:47 PM
Wow. Almost 8 pee-emma. skdadl is in re-training, fersure. Let's start a pool. skdadl will ring in New Year what year? I say 2010.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on October 13, 2006, 08:02:31 PM
:rotfl:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on October 14, 2006, 12:36:28 AM
Quote from: gunnar gunnarson
Gosh, bonesy -- between that and the Groucho tux and the cigars, your costume budget must be huuuuuuuge.
ehehe ... if only you knew, my pretty ...

:si
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 14, 2006, 07:00:56 AM
So, like ...  it is 7 a.m. and I have two cigarettes left ...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 14, 2006, 07:50:03 AM
Counting down. Your corner store opens at 8, yes? How many left now? (I still think you should reconsider the suggestion [from I can't remember who] to take up smoking kitty turds.)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 14, 2006, 07:52:00 AM
I just took my last puff. Spaced 'em out perfectly.

Go me. To the corner store, now, that is.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 14, 2006, 08:40:55 AM
Went to corner store at 8.02. Discovered that corner store does not open until 8.30 on Saturdays.  :panic

Bit bullet and headed down the street to hit the money machine, then the further corner store, then discovered that evil supermarket is already open, so bought some comfort food (humus).

Hadn't taken lighter with me (because I thought I'd be only minutes), so I was breathing fresh air all the way. Rilly fresh air.   :shock:

It is cold out there. It doesn't feel like October at all -- this is November already. Surely this can't last?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on October 14, 2006, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: skdadl
Hadn't taken lighter with me (because I thought I'd be only minutes), so I was breathing fresh air all the way. Rilly fresh air.   :shock:


 :lol:  Tell me it was refreshing for a change.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 15, 2006, 06:11:22 PM
We've only got enough tinned cat food for supper tonight, and Grocery Gateway won't be here until at least 6 a.m., which will be pushing it for the kitties.

Gah.

Bye.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on October 15, 2006, 06:24:55 PM
Toronto Sun headline on Tuesday...

"Catlady found, devoured by pets".

"Toronto-based editor skdadl was found at her home ... (...)

"known as a catlady"...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on October 15, 2006, 06:37:58 PM
^^^^^  :rotfl:

(Checking out paint colours while roasting garlic for dinner. An interior designer friend of mine thinks I should paint the kitchen walls charcoal grey -- it's making me nervous...)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on October 15, 2006, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: sparqui

(Checking out paint colours while roasting garlic for dinner. An interior designer friend of mine thinks I should paint the kitchen walls charcoal grey -- it's making me nervous...)


Gaaaaahhhhh disregard that advice.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 15, 2006, 07:36:07 PM
I've been putting off packing for my trip out, because the boat has been so far behind schedule. But I just found out I have to have the truck at the dock by 930 am tomorrow (maybe earlier) and also want to get to the bank at 9am, so it'll be a tight squeeze. Decided to stay in Natashquan tomorrow night instead of risking driving to Sept-Iles possibly for two hours in the dark. (boat leaves here at 11 am, three hours on boat to Nat, then an hour for unloading, then it would be a five hour drive to Sept-Iles) I'll log off later tonight or very early tomorrow. If things go well, I should be back by Thursday 26th. Have to finish packing and so some reporting as to my whereabouts for those who have to know. So, be well, and all manner of things shall be well. :)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on October 16, 2006, 02:42:17 AM
Have a safe and exciting trip Boom Boom.

(Debra I know what you mean but I ignored her advice on the bathroom and it looks kind of ICK.)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 16, 2006, 06:05:40 AM
Take care and have fun, Boom Boom.

sparqui, I have a tiny bathroom under the stairs (I guess we call that a powder room, except that sounds so silly to me) that is painted silver grey. The colour feels so ... dead ... on the walls, and I don't think it does much for most people's complexions when they look in the mirror. Not that you want most people lingering in there, of course.   :wink:

I'm trying to figure out what colour to paint it (if and when I ever get there). The hall outside will be yellow-cream, and the rooms across will be BnR colours -- one a kind of pumpkin-cinnamon, one red. Maybe the bathroom should be cinnamon too?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on October 16, 2006, 07:28:01 AM
Thanks for the good wishes. I kept waking up last night, and just got back from the wharf - the wharfinger ain't there yet - still in bed. I'll try again at 8am to get an update on the boat's progress. It was 41 hours behind schedule when it arrived Saturday so I can't imagine it'll actually be here this morning - it's a big boat, and making up that much time would require good weather and keeping the thing going at full speed.

ETA: The boat is now expected to arrive here at 8 pm tonight, leaving at 9, gets me to Natashquan at midnight  :(  forcing me to check in to a motel overnight, then leave for Sept-Iles tomorrow morning. We're at the mercy of the weather here - bad weather can delay the transport/supply ship a very long time. So, I'm home for an extra day.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on October 16, 2006, 04:47:37 PM
skdadl, we painted the living room, hallway and foyer in this gorgeous butter lemon colour called "evocative sunlight" and it looks fantastic. (We only get some northern light so it really was a fantastic choice.)

My friend had advised we use a muted sage green for the one and only bathroom and hubby figured it was too green and would make us look sick in the morning. So we picked out what looked like a muted golden tan colour and it is WAY TOO mustard like. My friend had great fun saying, I told you so.

As for a grey, I've been looking at this for inspiration:

link (http://www.kitchens.com/Remodeling-And-Design/Kitchen-Design/Kitchen-Color-Trends/Silver-Pine-Cabinetry-by-Heritage-10-22.asp)

Essentially all the cupboards, two sides of the wall would be cream/white with the grey serving as accents around them and on one wall. Like the photo, our kitchen is small with no natural light. I'm thinking of doing the sandblasted plexiglass cupboard doors approach they used in the above room to create more light. Since it's a rental, I need to do inexpensive flooring. Right now it has very old red, gold and green flecked lanolium tiles in really bad shape. Not sure what to do about those... (the appliances are that ugly 70s harvest gold).
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 16, 2006, 05:16:11 PM
sparqui, I love the sandblasted plexiglass cabinet doors -- great idea.

I couldn't do that here, but those remind me so much of a wonderfully preserved 1950s kitchen I saw years ago in a house in Ithaca, NY. They really do add light to the room. You need to design around them a bit, but if they work, they are brilliant, sort of like glass bricks.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on October 16, 2006, 05:48:53 PM
Oh that is good to hear skdadl. I was only going to use if for new cupboards that we intend to build over the ugly appliances but when I showed the photo to my SO, he got very excited about doing all the upper cabinets. (Now I'm starting to think about getting the super to trade up our harvest gold stuff...)

Anyway, I am trying to store crap bit by bit in three rooms to be painted. I really regret being such a pack rat at times like these. I am sure I will end up tossing out my collection of old condiments (although seems like food was safer 10 years ago  :) )
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 17, 2006, 03:52:01 PM
I just came back from the dentist. I am trying to smoke out of the wrong side of my mouth, since the usual side is numb. That half of my nose is numb too, so breathing is an odd experience. I wish I could have a drink, but at the moment it would be wasted.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on October 17, 2006, 05:15:06 PM
I hope you're not in pain skdadl.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on October 17, 2006, 05:19:37 PM
Quote from: skdadl
I wish I could have a drink, but at the moment it would be wasted.


Won't be wasted when it hits your head.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 17, 2006, 05:46:56 PM
Quote from: sparqui
I hope you're not in pain skdadl.


I am not in pain -- thank you for the thought, sparqui. I am in irritation, though. My lip and nose are all twisted around funny so that I can't smoke or drink properly. The freezing is taking a long time to come out, and I just know that it is going to give me a headache later.

Have I whined enough yet? I could go on ...

Ok: I'll go on. The worse thing is that the evil dentist sees four more things she wants to do. FOUR MORE! It took her two visits to do the entire cleaning number; before that she rebuilt the broken tooth; and now she still wants another month of my life.

I am a really bad patient. I like my dentist very much, actually, as a person, but I so detest being medicalized in any way at all. I insist on being cranky tonight.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on October 17, 2006, 07:21:43 PM
Get a straw, stick it in the good side. Have a drink. Then take some ibprofen before bed, you'll be good as new.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 18, 2006, 11:45:27 AM
I'm trying to write 500 immaculate words on economic indicators for my quarterly, very well paid writing gig. I shouldn't complain. But I've been doing this four times a year for too many years and I'm starting to hope for a depression, recession, alien invasion, anything to relieve the utter boredom of this.

But I do get to talk to my tame economist. He's a nice guy, but of course his politics are all wrong. We have nice little arguments about stuff. This morning it was privatization. He's all for privatizing the LCBO, for example. But he kinda surprised me when I asked about privatizing Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. He said that would be way harder to justify and he would not be in favour of it. He hadn't heard anything solid about it and expects that it was a trial balloon.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on October 19, 2006, 10:19:01 AM
Since anything we say is meaningless until Mandos finishes I gotta talk about my dream last night. Strange night anyway, dog up twice (she's going to vets today).

I dreamt that some serious respected people were going nutso over having spotted sasquatches while hunting. They got some really good video and it was shown on cbc. It was verified by video experts etc., so my last memory in my dream is standing in the LR staring at the telly and thinking holy shit, they're real! Then thinking where am I going to file this in my brain, cos there is already too much to think about.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on October 20, 2006, 11:53:32 AM
I'm off to get streaks and a hair trim -- trying to look smart for my trip. Unfortunately, I've been feeling like shit all week and just wish I
could nap :-(
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Américain Égalitaire on October 21, 2006, 09:05:21 AM
Thinking of snow shovels about now. . .

Quote
... Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 7 PM this evening to
7 am CDT Sunday...

The National Weather Service in the Quad Cities has issued a
Winter Weather Advisory... which is in effect from 7 PM this
evening to 7 am CDT Sunday.

Rain will change to snow this evening with accumulations of 2 to
4 inches of wet snow likely by Sunday morning. Northwest winds
increasing to 20 to 30 mph by midnight will cause considerable
blowing snow and areas of poor visibility. In addition... this
early season snow storm may result in downed tree branches where
trees have not yet lost their leaves.


Heavy wet blowing snow with the posibility of a mini-Buffalo experience. And I haven't even bought the pumpkin yet! Might as well skip Halloween, Thanksgiving and go right on to Christmas. This will be our second measurable snow in October which is beyond rare.

Might as well get more firewood. I HATE paying $3.99 and up for a small bundle (5 logs) of wood but I may need an alt heat source if the power goes out.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on October 21, 2006, 11:35:39 AM
I'm freezing. Should resign myself to turning on at least one of the baseboard heaters, but I have to borrow a vacuum cleaner to clean them out (mine died - trying to find one at a bazaar or garage/estate sale but it must have a crevice tool).

Want to force myself to go out for a bicycle ride, despite the nasty weather... I have a lot of work to get done, and can't get my brain to wake up, though I slept reasonably well last night.  Must find my gloves.

We got some big flakes of sloppy white snow (yecch) yesterday, but it didn't last.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 23, 2006, 10:56:17 AM
Don't tell anyone.  I've just finished a rush-rush indexing job, but I'm not going to send it until tomorrow. This client has been pushing me harder and harder and while I like to get the work, I've pulled off a few too many miracles for her lately and she's starting to expect me to work all the hours of the day and week to catch up on fucked-up projects.

There. I think I go do laundry.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on October 24, 2006, 04:35:07 PM
Didya send it off?

I'm just back from the dentist. Again. I know it is boring to read these reports, but it's fairly boring to live through them too. I didn't get frozen this time: I got some rebuilding of one of the li'l fang teeth -- it looks so cute now.

But I'm not biting properly. Sigh.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on October 24, 2006, 04:43:05 PM
Yup. Sent it today. There's another one coming this week. Not, mercifully, sociology. I know an editor who had worked for a publisher full time, then went freelance and continued to work for the same outfit. Later, they wanted her to come back full time. Her condition: no sociology. They went for it.

Are you done with the dentist now, skdadl?

Edited to ask: Why is there side-scroll on this thread?

Edited again to answer: It's sparqui's link. Somebody fix?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on October 24, 2006, 04:49:47 PM
somebody fixed
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on November 02, 2006, 03:45:58 PM
I had an appointment near the hospital today so when done there I went over to the hospital spent from 11.30 till 2.30 and still didn't get seen. Will have to see if I can get a ride from someone tonight.

I wish my lungs would just clear up already... :annoyed
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on November 02, 2006, 04:47:50 PM
Hope you'll be okay, Debra. Me, I've been doing some carpentry (built a workbench from scrap wood) and mopping up from a minor flood. Went to the dump to scrounge for used wood, found enough 2x4s to build a mount for the new generator I brought for when the power goes off. Watched the owner of one of the stores build a new entrance way from a kit, gave me an idea for a greenhouse next year. Cleaned up some old power tools, and have some ideas for rebuilding the garage. I'd like to add a storage room and an observation deck to the rear of he house. And, have to get moving on getting something donw about the shoreline erosion.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on November 02, 2006, 06:22:34 PM
Just had the local contractor over, and we reveiwed the many jobs I need his assistance with, and he'll start Saturday with the new shower stall. He's been busy with bridge maintenance on the village roads the past few weeks. This house is really looking nice, and all I need now is for the flowers to come up in the spring, and get some trees planted, and I'll have almost a nice English country cottage theme to live in - the exception being the hideously ugly fence around the garden, but which I have to keep or else the local scavengers will make short work of my veggies. It's a small place, but very nice. New hardwood flooring and ceramic tile throughout. The wood fan-blown furnace has made everything nice and toasty warm, and I have a backup generator for when the power goes out (doesn't happen often).
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on November 02, 2006, 07:13:39 PM
A shower!! a shower then you can pack up your tub and sent it to skdadl.  :bath
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on November 02, 2006, 07:21:33 PM
Quote from: Debra
A shower!! a shower then you can pack up your tub and sent it to skdadl.  :bath


Whoa - not so fast, Nelly. I love skdadl, really, I do, but the bathtub is the most glamorous piece of work in the house, with beautiful ceramic tile up and around, and is simply wunnerful to sit in and lie back in with hot soapy water after a busy day. The shower, by contrast, is simply utilitarian, although I have plans to make it more attractive. The shower will be installed in my bedroom, by the way. :groucho-marx:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on November 02, 2006, 07:33:02 PM
Well that will make it easier to shower and go to bed or get up and shower whichever or both.  :lol:


 :bed:  :shower:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on November 02, 2006, 07:39:05 PM
Debra, you have a real gift for finding great emoticons and smileys!  :)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 03, 2006, 08:14:24 AM
Still no bathtub for skdadl.   :cry:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 03, 2006, 08:20:10 AM
Well, if you feel up to it, you can always use mine. Bring your rubber ducky.  :duck
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Tommy Shanks on November 03, 2006, 08:21:26 AM
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he'll start Saturday with the new shower stall. He's been busy with bridge maintenance on the village roads


That is some jack-of-all-trades contractor.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on November 03, 2006, 08:52:46 AM
He is, indeed. He builds complete houses, does road and bridge maintenance, and clears the snow from the airport all winter. In addition, he does small carpentry such as building grandfather clocks and tables for the locals. He's one of two carpenters here. Oh, and both do electrical and plumbing work as well.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on November 03, 2006, 09:02:29 AM
I'm translating descriptions of artworks (and haven't seen all of them!) - Fortunately I'm familiar with the artists, and the person reading over my translations - who speaks decent English - has seen all of them and written several of the descriptions. Still... Lots of captions get translated that way.

I'm also drinking coffee, and still freezing, though I did turn on the baseboard heater in my office. Once I've finished this translation, I think I'll go on a bicycle ride - it is not warm, but it is sunny and some exercise should get my blood flowing.

I'm always cold. :(
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Sleeping Sun on November 03, 2006, 10:44:11 AM
Ugh, our office building is apparently completely unable to regualte it's temperature successfully.  In the mornings, on my side of the floor, it is so freezing cold that you need to wear a sweater and sometimes gloves.  In the afternoons, when the sun shifts around to this side, it is almost too hot.  Of course, that makes the ac turn on more to keep the precious computers cool, and thus freezes out the other half of the floor.  :roll:

Right now I am trying really really hard to work.  We have almost double the amount of available overtime this month than we did all summer, and I want to take advantage of it while I can, making some extra monee and all, but I am completely lacking in concentration.  

And to make it worse, my manager isn't in today.  When the cat's away, and all that jazz.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on November 03, 2006, 12:17:54 PM
OK, I will stop going on about this. Like, after Tuesday. I feel like I have a deadline. I'm trying to get all kinds of things done. All things I should do/have been putting off but there's an urgency to get them done before. So, this week I got my hair cut, did laundry, bought a pair of pants, winter boots, and a new blind for the office/back room. I've carted reams (literally) of paper into the recyling. I just hemmed the pants and now I'm going to clean the joint up. And I've got a book to index that I've got to fit in somewhere.

I don't feel anxious, just compelled -- to tidy up, prepare, get organized. I dunno. It's not logical. It's not like he's moving in here, or there's a party happening.
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Post by: Caissa on November 03, 2006, 02:22:59 PM
Sounds almost like nesting. :D
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Post by: fern hill on November 03, 2006, 02:24:33 PM
Eeee, I'm going to pretend I didn't see that.
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Post by: Caissa on November 03, 2006, 02:31:25 PM
I thought you might. :D  I'll be thinking of you on Tuesday.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 03, 2006, 02:46:23 PM
Awwww ...   :wink:

I envy you, fern hill. It's a wonderful feeling. Run with it.  *heart*
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on November 03, 2006, 02:47:29 PM
Well, you had all better be thinking of me. I'll be thinking (a little) about you in your fancy get-ups and hats. Someone mentioned a birthday around the 7th. Was it you, Caissa?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on November 03, 2006, 03:05:17 PM
Enjoy the energy flow, fern...

I'll be wearing a hat (first time in ages) in your honour....maybe a black fedora, maybe a baseball style cap, maybe both...decisions, decisions...

 :congrats:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 04, 2006, 09:21:03 AM
Drat. One of the glass walls for the new shower stall shattered when I brought it inside from the cold. Guess the temperature change was too much for it. We'll make a new wall from thin wood panelling that I have a good supply of in my garage, and order a sheet of plexiglass to fit. Why the manufacturer used regular glass for shower walls escapes me - plexiglass would have been much better. Oh, well, it slows us down just a bit. Darn.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on November 04, 2006, 09:24:54 AM
Oh that sucks. Plexiglas does seem a better option.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on November 04, 2006, 09:33:23 AM
I'm really surprised it wasn't a shatterproof glass, given that it's a shower stall.  :(   Anyway, we're carrying on, hope to have it done by noon.

ETA: We're taking a lunch break. Ran into a small glitch, namely the ductwork from the furnace is right underneath the shower drain - not much room to move the pipes around, but with grit and detrmination (and a few cuss words  :oops:  ) we're able to nevertheless work around it all.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 04, 2006, 09:36:57 AM
It suddenly occurs to me: isn't the 7th also the day of the U.S. midterm elections?

What could this signify? Perhaps fern hill and sweetie's ceremony of commitment is a sign to give us all hope?   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on November 04, 2006, 09:48:37 AM
I figure there will be at least one thing to celebrate on Tuesday and I'm hoping real hard for more.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on November 04, 2006, 10:36:30 AM
fern, will there be pictures?

What am I doing? I am going back to bed. Fuck this staying awake bullshit. I am so fucking glad it is a fucking saturday because I am so fucking tired, and I'm mad because I wish I wasn't always feeling too tired to post here.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on November 04, 2006, 10:59:03 AM
No pictures. Take care, eph.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Nikita on November 04, 2006, 10:59:41 AM
That's what the weekends are for, eph.  Lots of lounging and sleeping.  I like to do my baking on the weekends, bread and cookies for the week.  It's very relaxing... and tasty.  :)

Btw fern: I just realised that you're getting married this week.  Congratulations!   :flowers
I'm knitting myself a hat this weekend, now it's going to be known as the fern hill wedding hat.  It's a cloche, I'm using lovely cream yarn with some fawn-coloured accents.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on November 04, 2006, 03:25:02 PM
Speaking of baking, I got suckered into participating in the cookie exchange at work for that dreaded event that happens every December. (Ssh, please don't say the C word till at least the 1st of December). I hate baking, and I hate C.

I bought myself a hat on Thursday. I went to Roots cause it was the closest place, I didn't have much time, and I had seen a girl trying a hat like the one I wanted through the window once. Well, I checked out the hat, and it was fucking 40 dollars! I said fuck that. Where do these people get off charging 40 dollars for a hat like that. It was thin. I wanted a thin one that would cover my ears and fit under my helmet. Another was $38, $35, etc. It would be stupid to buy a hat here when I know the girl at the Farmer's Market who knits the hats themselves doesn't charge anywhere near these outrageous prices. I finally found one for $24, and I thought I can live with that. Wish the market had been open so I could have bought it from the girl.

Anyway, I do like my new hat. It didn't let any wind come near my ears.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Mandos on November 04, 2006, 03:28:39 PM
Xmas is the season for taking.

Everyone around me loves my hat.  skdadl will attest to it.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on November 04, 2006, 03:30:16 PM
Okay Mandos, quit being cheeky. No C word, and no X word either.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on November 04, 2006, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: Nikita
I'm knitting myself a hat this weekend, now it's going to be known as the fern hill wedding hat.  It's a cloche, I'm using lovely cream yarn with some fawn-coloured accents.


Aw, that's sweet. You're quite the girly gril, Nikita, knitting and baking and all, for a feminazi.

eph's hat story reminded me that I was going to knit her ear covers, but as I remember it, we were going to do a trade yet to be negotiated.

I never use the 'c' word. I call it xmas, which pisses off the fundies, but is actually quite proper. 'x' stands for the Greek letter chi, first letter of that guy's name and was used as such. Neat, eh? I can be a pendant and piss off fundies at the same time.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 04, 2006, 04:18:46 PM
I never thought a shower stall would be so difficult to install. Parts didn't fit properly, the faucet is a cheapie unit that was very difficult to install. Seven hours work so far, and the contractor will be back tomorrow for a final check. The shattered glass wall - I'm using a shower curtain temporarilly until the contractor can order a sheet of plexiglass to replace it. I had a shower stall installed when I lived on the island - it was a one-piece steel unit and took less than two hours to install. This glass enclosure is a nightmare to install.   :(
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Post by: Mandos on November 04, 2006, 04:33:47 PM
"Okay Mandos, quit being cheeky. No C word, and no X word either."

It was a Futurama reference.  1000 years in the future, they've forgotten the C holiday and now only have a holiday literally called "X-mas". It's the season to celebrate the spirit of taking.
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on November 04, 2006, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: fern hill
I can be a pendant and piss off fundies at the same time.


Not that there's anything wrong with pissing off the fundies, but how exactly does swinging back and forth like an ornamental bauble get it done?

Is this some new tactic?  Why were 'lance and I not told?   :annoyed
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on November 04, 2006, 08:42:51 PM
I'm listening to a beautiful concert on Espace Musique (Radio-Canada 2); "Musiques du désert"...

And pleased to have so many fellow MontréalaisEs from the Arab world and thereabouts, making the Festival du monde arabe possible.

Asides about the musical and spiritual training of some of the musicians. No, I'm not giving in to some nonexistent "spritual side" but I'm very much relishing a view of the Arab and/or Middle Eastern and/or Muslim world* that has nothing to do with Wente's reductive nonsense.

* those all overlap, but aren't necessarily mutually inclusive.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on November 05, 2006, 07:27:09 PM
I just looked at the telly listings. On PBS there's a nature show about chimpanzees. I love chimpanzees. At the same time (8:00) CBC has a movie with Denzel Washington in it. It's a football movie, but as my mother says about Paul Newman, I'd watch Denzel Washington brush his teeth. So, I'm torn. Chimpanzees. Denzel Washington.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on November 05, 2006, 07:50:14 PM
Denzel Washington of course

Huh! Chimpanzees are the bullies of the primate world.  I never liked them until I heard about Frans de Waal and his research on the bonobos (http://www.blockbonobofoundation.org/), their distant cousins who ressemble them a bit physically but are so much more evolved and less violent.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on November 05, 2006, 07:57:49 PM
Bonobos are wonderful and sexy. And chimps are violent. But seems to me humans are kinda between the two.

All the great apes are fascinating. I was at the Toronto zoo orangutan exhibit with a friend with a toddler in a stroller. She pushed the stroller up to the glass, and a female orang with baby under her arm immediately came swinging down to check out the other baby. It was very intense. She was really scrutinizing the human baby.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: suzette on November 06, 2006, 12:44:02 AM
Bonobos have such a cool name that it can't help but make them funner to be with. "Chimp"? Meh.  "Bonobo"? Yeah!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on November 06, 2006, 02:00:51 PM
And here I am, posting at the site.
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Post by: skdadl on November 06, 2006, 02:13:16 PM
Glub, glub, glub ...  

Splash!
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Post by: 'lance on November 06, 2006, 02:17:59 PM
Does this mean you finally got a bathtub installed, skdadl?

Or that the sun's over the yardarm especially early today?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 06, 2006, 02:23:33 PM
Alas, no. It just means that the iggle has landed -- ie, that I managed re-entry from the other place.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Holly Stick on November 06, 2006, 02:30:59 PM
Where is this other place?  Through the looking glass?  In the wardrobe? :?:  :?:  :?:
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Post by: skdadl on November 06, 2006, 02:35:39 PM
But Holly, you have been there. Have you simply forgotten? It is always there for us ...
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Post by: fern hill on November 06, 2006, 02:36:50 PM
Yeah, what other place? Did the cool kids go off on a field trip or something? :(
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Post by: Debra on November 06, 2006, 02:39:36 PM
I wonder if I should send out a mass email ( I think I may have once before) with the address of the looking glass?
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Post by: Herr Magoo on November 06, 2006, 02:39:51 PM
Is this like that time in grade 5 when all the girls got to watch movies and read pamphlets, and the boys went and played dodgeball?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 06, 2006, 02:41:27 PM
You're kidding me. You're joking with the old girl.

You mean you two weren't the rotten trolls we were all trying to figure out? Wow. I was sure you were there.
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Post by: Debra on November 06, 2006, 02:41:41 PM
Na it's more like the time the cool kids had a party and gave everyone else the wrong address.  :wink:
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Post by: fern hill on November 06, 2006, 02:48:53 PM
Trolls? This other place has trolls? Trolls know about it and stalwart BnRers like Holly and moi don't? Sheesh, you deserve trolls then.
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Post by: Holly Stick on November 06, 2006, 02:52:44 PM
Oh, I guess it's that place with the big green F on my bookmarks; forgot about it completely. :oops:  :oops:  :oops:
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Post by: Debra on November 06, 2006, 02:54:54 PM
F how apt. As in oh FUCK the site is down again.  :lol:
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Post by: on November 06, 2006, 06:08:25 PM
Quote from: fern hill
Trolls? This other place has trolls? Trolls know about it and stalwart BnRers like Holly and moi don't? Sheesh, you deserve trolls then.


Yea!! (I'm actually agreeing with fern). A troll-pox on all a youse, then. Harrummh!

So, what is this other place?
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Post by: Debra on November 06, 2006, 06:12:44 PM
I sent out a mass email Eph. Didn't you get it?

http://bnr.17.forumer.com/index (http://bnr.17.forumer.com/index)
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Post by: on November 06, 2006, 07:05:09 PM
That took me to a green page, I clicked on enter main forum, and I didn't recognize anybody or anything. It was too busy.

No, I didn't get an e-mail. I even checked my Junk/Spam folder this time.
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Post by: Debra on November 06, 2006, 07:10:13 PM
See if this makes a difference

http://bnr.17.forumer.com/index.php (http://bnr.17.forumer.com/index.php)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: on November 07, 2006, 10:23:36 AM
I get "Page cannot be displayed".  :annoyed
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Post by: Debra on November 07, 2006, 10:42:43 AM
it was down for awhile but seems to be back up

Mike is convinced all these internet problems are stemming from the revving up of the "fake an election" diebold machines.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 07, 2006, 10:44:42 AM
I said that too! On the altsite. The Repugnicans are sending out strange waves to disrupt all communications today.
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Post by: k'in on November 07, 2006, 11:18:26 AM
If you believe the conspiracy theorists, HAARP (http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/haarpFactSheet.html) is pretty interesting, DOD involvement and all...

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HAARP (High frequency Active Auroral Research Program) is to be a major Arctic facility for upper atmospheric and solar-terrestrial research. HAARP is being built on a DoD-owned site near Gakona, Alaska. Principal instruments include a high power, high-frequency (HF) phased array radio transmitter (known as the Ionospheric Research Instrument, or IRI), used to stimulate small, well-defined volumes of ionosphere, and an ultra-high frequency (UHF) incoherent scatter radar (ISR), used to measure electron densities, electron and ion temperatures, and Doppler velocities in the stimulated region and in the natural ionosphere. To further the scientific capabilities and usefulness of the IRI and ISR, HAARP is supporting the design and installation of the latest in modern geophysical research instruments, including an HF ionosonde, ELF and VLF receivers, magnetometers, riometers, a LIDAR (LIght Detection And Ranging) and optical and infrared spectrometers and cameras which will be used to observe the complex natural variations of Alaska's ionosphere as well as to detect artificial effects produced by the IRI.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 07, 2006, 12:16:56 PM
Quote from: skdadl
I said that too! On the altsite. The Repugnicans are sending out strange waves to disrupt all communications today.


They may be shooting themselves in the foot - as of noon today, 75 precints haven't voted yet because of problems with the voting machines. At least one precint decided to go to paper ballots instead.
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Post by: Holly Stick on November 07, 2006, 12:23:14 PM
And of course the CBC website is under attack.  They don't want it sending its subversive messages out.  Maybe we should have revived that Guardian campaign to write to American voters.  Remember the responses they got: "Brush your teeth, you filthy animals!" :D
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 07, 2006, 01:47:10 PM
What am I doing? Feeling good because the ENT specialist, whom I saw yesterday, prescribed a new hearing aid for me that will be paid by the Govt. of Quebec. I guess it's part of the provincial health plan.  I have to go out to Sept Iles (at taxpayer's expense) before Christmas to have a hearing test, then a hearing aid will be prescribed that fits with the audiogram. Didn't know before that I could get a hearing aid this way - previously, I paid about 40% and my extended health care paid 60%.
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Post by: Caissa on November 07, 2006, 01:58:11 PM
Good to see the mafia will save some money on health benefits :spy:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 07, 2006, 02:04:48 PM
Well, members of benevolent societies pay taxes too. :)
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Post by: Caissa on November 07, 2006, 02:08:41 PM
Where's the horsehead emoticon when you need it?
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Post by: deBeauxOs on November 07, 2006, 02:09:30 PM
Quote from: Boom Boom
... I have to go out to Sept Iles (at taxpayer's expense) before Christmas to have a hearing test, then a hearing aid will be prescribed that fits with the audiogram. ...
Sheesh ... had you but known this in October, you could have delayed your shopping/stocking up trip and done both at the same time!

My daughter, who is moving to Montréal in January to complete a fellowship,  does not have nice things to say about the provincial licensing board for her profession.  It's giving her a lot of grief, some of it downright stupid.  Example: when she graduated from U of O, she was given the choice of a diploma provided in French, English or Latin.  She of course picked Latin - très kewl!  But when she submitted a copy of this document to her licensing board to obtain her permit to practice in Québec, she was told that she would have to get it translated, at her expense, because nobody in their organization spoke Latin.

I kid you not.   :roll:

Otherwise things are good for her, she's found a terrific sub-let in a gorgeous old building on St-Joseph, near Papineau.  Her new colleagues at McGill and l'Hôpital Général had warned her that the application process would be long and frustrating but they could not help since the licensing organization is very touchy about any 'outside' intervention.  And it is expensive.  Over 1000$ so far.  In the end, she didn't have to pay to get her Latin diploma translated - the organization accepted it, after she protested.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 07, 2006, 02:10:12 PM
Someone's been watching too many "Godfather" movies.  :lol:
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Post by: 'lance on November 07, 2006, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: Boom Boom
Someone's been watching too many "Godfather" movies.  :lol:


No such thing, Boom Boom.

Waittaminute, though... The Godfather, Part III was definitely a movie too many.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 07, 2006, 04:38:27 PM
Well, I'm on the outs because I tried to make these guys into a more benevolent society. Some days you win, some days youse lose.  :lol:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on November 07, 2006, 04:58:07 PM
just returned from the cardiologist

Good news, my cholesterol is good and I don't have diabetes.

However, I have to go for an echocardiogram after which I will be fitted with a monitor I have to wear for 72 hours.

I have to go for a stress test and I have to go for a sleep study because I may have sleep apnea which may be affecting my heart negatively and I have to go for a lung functions test because they aren't getting any better.

Sheesh.
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Post by: on November 07, 2006, 05:07:47 PM
Sound tiresome. Good luck. I'm glad you don't have diabetes. Whew!
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Post by: Toedancer on November 07, 2006, 05:09:33 PM
Debra my heart goes out to you. I know how many responsibilties you have in a day. Just wanted to let you know my guy has been thru all of those.
Today he returned from Kingston General and the news is good. All clear for the lungs. Now the sleep apnea is very difficult to assess, very difficult. So good luck.

No obstructions or lung problems, but Kingston is sending some sort of pneumonia shot to our local docs which isn't the pneumonia shot given to most people with fragilities with lungs. The doc in Kingston said that' it, no more pneumonias for life! So I haven't figured that out yet, but will.
You prolly don't remember by my guy was in intensive care and almost died last December for pneumonia, double.

Your gonna be great. I'll try and find out about the P shot.
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Post by: Nikita on November 07, 2006, 05:21:19 PM
:hug

Hang in there Debra!  I'm sending positive vibes your way.
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Post by: 'lance on November 07, 2006, 05:31:00 PM
Wot they said, Debra, and all the best.
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Post by: skdadl on November 07, 2006, 06:08:26 PM
I empathize completely, Debra. To me, anyway, there is nothing harder in life than being medicalized. It is a terrible spiritual challenge, a challenge to your very sense of self, and so few people ever quite grasp how deeply undermined you can feel during these trials -- until it happens to them, of course. I'm no exception, no paragon either: I had to be sick m'self to learn.

We have to do something about that phenom. It's as though our system is happy enough to see us picked off one at a time, since, one at a time, we represent no threat. But if all the ones who had been picked off that way started to come together ... we could be scary.  :D
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 07, 2006, 07:30:10 PM
Bummer, Debra.  :grouphug
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Post by: Caissa on November 08, 2006, 08:50:41 AM
Here's wishing the tests will be followed by proper diagnosis, treatment and a return to good health.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 10, 2006, 04:13:45 PM
This is the first day I've felt depressed since moving to the coast in 1995. The roof of this house sprang a slight leak last night so that kept me awake through the night wondering how to deal with it. Took a look at it today, and it's the result of a repair job by the man who built this place thirty years ago from a house trailer. It seems he build an addition to the house, and installed a wood stove. The leak is coming from the former hole in the roof that accomodated the stovepipe, but which is now, as it has been for the past twenty years or so, covered with a bucket and garbage bag! :shock: The local contractor and I had a good laugh at this today, and he will make a temporary repair maybe tonight or tomorrow. The shower stall drain also leaks, and will be fixed tonight. I have to think about a new roof, as well.  Finally, my left thumb hurts like the devil, and there's no e-ray equipment within a 400 km radious of here, so either I have to put up with it, or think about flying out for a bloody xray. I'll see how it goes in a few days.

Oh, and by the way, just finished watching a terrific episode of "All Creatures Great and Small", and it was simply excellent as they all are. Christopher Timothy as Herriot is perfect. Today's episode had it all - lots of animals, romance (James and Helen), humour (Granville Bennett doing some small animal work for James, and later inviting him to the 'local' for a pint, which turns into three rather tall, fearsome-looking glasses of ale, then to his house for a small 'snack' which turns out to be washing down a large jar of pickled onions with glass after glass of sherry, AND huge roast beef sandwiches! :shock:  :lol: ) and, well, there was more, but you get my drift, it was a great show.

Sorry to go on and on but there you go. All's well that ends well. Ta ta, for now. :blahblah  :blahblah
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 10, 2006, 04:19:57 PM
It's amazing, isn't it, how little things that go wrong can suddenly really get you down. Even when you know they're fairly minor and they can be fixed, having things break down on you can throw you off your stride and leave you feeling discombob'd 'way beyond what they're worth for hours. I know that problem.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 10, 2006, 06:12:34 PM
What really got me down today was when I went to look at the roof and saw how old it is. It will have to be replaced next year - probably 4 or 5 thousand dollars. If I had bothered to look at the roof before buying this place, I could have knocked a few thousand off the purchase price. :(
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 11, 2006, 05:42:22 AM
I also have a roof that need replacing, although I was told that at the time. "Within two years," said the inspector. That was almost three years ago.   :(
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on November 11, 2006, 08:39:53 AM
Wiring.  Knob & tube.
(http://www.lafilleduperenoel.net/smilies/cat/divers/divers-lfdpn-007.gif)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 11, 2006, 08:41:24 AM
You mean you are doing the wiring, gunny? That you still have knob-and-tube wiring? That you are worried I do? (I used to, but I don't any more.)
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on November 11, 2006, 08:45:26 AM
One and two, skd, but not all at once.  It's just going to be a lot more involved and expensive than I thought. (http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/shithappens.gif)
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Post by: skdadl on November 11, 2006, 08:53:15 AM
Och, I know, gunny. I feel your pain.  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/skdadl/shithappens.gif)
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Post by: Debra on November 11, 2006, 09:03:21 AM
smilie added for future S.H. moments.  :wink:
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on November 11, 2006, 09:07:52 AM
Steve Harpoon moments?  I would think this would be a better representation.    (http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/shithittingfan.gif)
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Post by: Debra on November 11, 2006, 09:11:39 AM
Oh dear it is the Sat. scatological society meeting.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 11, 2006, 09:29:42 AM
The contractor just fixed the roof leak and the shower stall drain leak. Thank goodness it's not raining today! There's a lot of roofing compound round the edges of the repair that needs to dry. And, caulking compound around the drain - will need 24 hours to dry. So, it's back to the bathtub today! That's actually okay with me, because I'd love a hot bath today - been working outside in the cold all morning, caulking around a bedroom window, and up on the roof. Still have to paint the window frame after the caulking dries (it's a quick dry silicon). But, now, time for a :bath
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Post by: skdadl on November 11, 2006, 10:49:47 AM
I don't have a bathtub. *pout*
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Post by: shaolin on November 11, 2006, 11:13:21 AM
I got my big hand bandage off and my stitches out yesterday.  Now only my baby finger is out of commission - not my whole hand.  So, to celebrate I'm cooking a big meal and having some friends over.  It's been driving me crazy not being able to cook!  And trying to tidy up has taken soooo long, that it has all been piling up.  So, the flat is getting sorted out before they get here too!
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Post by: skdadl on November 11, 2006, 11:27:11 AM
I'm so glad for you, shaolin, and I suppose that cooking again right away is sort of like getting back up on the horse after he's thrown you.

Good luck, but, y'know -- take it slow with the knives, eh?
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Post by: Debra on November 11, 2006, 11:31:11 AM
yay, glad all is healing well.  :piratedance no dancing with knives....
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 11, 2006, 11:31:58 AM
Quote from: skdadl
I don't have a bathtub. *pout*


Hop on a plane and you can use mine when you land.  :groucho-marx:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on November 11, 2006, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: shaolin
I got my big hand bandage off and my stitches out yesterday.  Now only my baby finger is out of commission - not my whole hand.  So, to celebrate I'm cooking a big meal and having some friends over.  It's been driving me crazy not being able to cook!


I'll have to remember that one - I'm tired of my own cooking. Seriously, I'm glad you're coming along okay.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on November 11, 2006, 11:36:55 AM
I just installed a new flat-screen monitor for my computer. Weird - it's very wide, not very tall, and you have to be looking directly at it to read. Can't read anything if you're off to the side. I'm told flat-screen televisions are the same - you have to be seated right in front of them, can't see them from opposite corners of the room. This will take a while to get used to.
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Post by: skdadl on November 11, 2006, 11:37:02 AM
It is possible just to fly in to your place, Boom Boom?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on November 11, 2006, 11:41:26 AM
No direct flights here, sorry. From Toronto or Montreal, you'd have to connect in Quebec City then Sept-Iles, then there's a flight (Air Labrador, Beechcraft) that stops in Havre St. Pierre and Natashquan. At Natashquan, you get off the Beech and onto an older DH Twin Otter. You don't want to know how long (or expensive) these flights are. :(
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on November 11, 2006, 12:23:28 PM
skdadl wrote:
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I also have a roof that need replacing, although I was told that at the time. "Within two years," said the inspector. That was almost three years ago.

"Within two years" seems to be some sort of standard CYA clause written into property inspection reports. I got the same advice (15 year shingles, second layer, had been installed probably 23 years earlier).  No leaks but they looked a bit curly so I got a roofing company to deal with it.  They did a good job, no hassle (there seem to be lots of roofing horror stories circulating.)

gunnar gunnarson wrote:
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Wiring. Knob & tube.


Insurance companies seem to be obsessed with this, and there really isn't any solid evidence that it is a fire hazard.  Here, fortunately the previous person did the complete re-wiring, new outlets, panel, everything so all I've ever had to do was change a few light fixtures and the downstairs.  Doesn't appeal as fun to do, live through or pay for...

One's home is more their hassle than castle at times...
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 11, 2006, 01:08:40 PM
There's no building or property inspectors here, nor bylaw officers. Folks here build and maintain their homes themselves. Virtually anything goes, subject only to insurer's discretion.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on November 11, 2006, 01:16:07 PM
Quote from: Boom Boom
Hop on a plane and you can use mine when you land.  :groucho-marx:


Oh you rogue ... I'll bet you say that to all the girls.   :lol:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on November 11, 2006, 01:36:43 PM
But of course! :)  

PS: The new shower stall is big enough for two. :groucho-marx:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on November 11, 2006, 02:23:44 PM
I'm having white tea that has some spices in it - it is cold, rainy and miserable, but I'm going to see some friends this evening so I had to buy some salads at the market - I scored a local arugula! - The watercress is imported though. :(

I also bought cat food, a bottle of wine (duh) and some lovely root vegetables from a farmer who is winding up today - two bunches of parsley root (I love that, and it is hard to find), a céleri-rave (celery root or celeriac in English), some little white turnips... He gave me a bunch of sage.

I also bought some cerf rouge haché (red deer mince) and will make either a tourtière or empanadas, with the meat, onions, the sage, some green pitted olives and odds and ends. Ideas are welcome; think of moistening it as it is very lean.

Stopped by at a moving sale - they are moving to New Zealand. Bought a vacuum cleaner for $15. A Hoover, looks like a good one and in good condition, though obviously no guarantee. Will collect it tomorrow, as I didn't feel like schlepping it and the heavy root vegetables at the same time...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: brebis noire on November 11, 2006, 03:01:29 PM
oh god, you're right lagatta it is miserable out there. What a rainy season we've had this fall. So much mud, it looks like spring. The neighbours are starting to cut the Xmas trees and branches.

Of course, the kids can't play outside...so they have some friends over and naturally they want to use the computer. I don't mind if my own kids use it, one at a time, when I'm not planning to use it myself -  but there's something about a few of them together using my main means of communication and my gagne-pain that irks the hell out of me. So: No way, I say. But of course I develop a sense that I'm just a paranoid and ungenerous mother-figure.

You just can't win.  :(
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on November 11, 2006, 03:57:41 PM
Is there some new rule that it has to be dreary and rainy every Saturday?  Seems like this has mostly been the case beginning Labour Day (if not before).  It's total Skull Bearer weather right now.  I was out and figured I would get carried off by a Mord Wraith.  Doom and gloom.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on November 13, 2006, 11:51:22 AM
Well, I am about to go vote in the city elections, then I will go to our candidate's HQ to pick up the list of eligible voters for my assigned polls then back to the polling location to act as inside scrutineer.  Hope Alex Munter wins, otherwise Ottawa will be moving quickly backwards, in matters of social and municipal services.  

Another candidate, L O'B - not the incumbent, has made it known that he plans to target "ressources-rich services".  For example, he has been quoted as saying that the problem with the homeless is that too many agencies are supporting them.  Huh??? WTF!!!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on November 13, 2006, 12:18:58 PM
So this means that our friend Vicky is standing for election today?!

As for what I'm doing, a friend and I managed to change the barrel on my front door lock, so that is a great relief.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 13, 2006, 01:39:25 PM
Very glad to hear that, lagatta. Did you find out about the bike lock? And what did you think of the smudge?

I just got a small shipment of soap and candles from Arran Aromatics, people on Skye who make my favourite soap, which I am going to use as stocking stuffers this year. My favourite candles for myself these days are the ivory-coloured pillar candles that Loblaws has been selling for a couple of years, surprisingly nice things (three heights), and normally I detest scented candles. But the AA people make a white pillar that has the most delicate heathery perfume, so I gave in and got some as wee prezzies.

Because I just opened the box, my office smells of heather right now. Even if people don't want to use the soap or burn the candles, they can hide them in drawers, I figure.
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Post by: k'in on November 13, 2006, 04:35:54 PM
Dealt this morning with OPL (Other People's Leaves).  Bad karma.  A week ago I marvelled that the trees were bare but by some small miracle there were hardly any leaves for me to rake.  I felt smug but today the yard is loaded with OPL.  So I raked 'em, bagged 'em and will dump them into the garden in a couple of weeks to break down over the winter.  There is also a rose in full bloom-odd for this late in the year.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on November 13, 2006, 05:10:10 PM
I just got back from voting a little while ago, long hike to do other tasks as well in several different directions.

I don't like the ballot. It's the one where you have to connect one part of an arrow to the other part. I mean, I can do that, but I just know that it is going to confuse a lot of people. The ballot that the feds send out is so superior, I think -- just the big circle that you can put anything in.

The list of mayoral candidates is verrrry long, runs past one column. I predict many mistaken votes because of that. Boy, if I were a candidate, I would want some input into ballot design.

However, I have voted. And in my best Mandos voice, I now declare that Toronto should be in good hands for the next (how many?) years.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 13, 2006, 05:55:35 PM
Just watched "The World's Fastest Indian" about Burt Munro from NZ setting land speed records on a 1920 Indian Scout. Great movie - see it if you get a chance. :)

(me Mudder was a Munro, and drag raced her cars - what is it with Munroes and fast cars and bikes?)
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Post by: The Hegemo on November 13, 2006, 10:02:41 PM
Transferring files from my old busted laptop to my new laptop.

And listening to an mp3 of "Country Roads" by John Denver. Since getting a job with a union that has lots of members in West Virginia, I've learned that song by heart!  :)
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 13, 2006, 11:04:29 PM
I've been through Harper's Ferry, WV, and all over Virginia. Too damned hot.
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Post by: skdadl on November 14, 2006, 05:31:29 AM
I can get into a John Denver mood, but I don't usually admit it. I'm always afraid that means I'll have to give up my serious-culture-critic card.  :oops:
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Post by: Caissa on November 14, 2006, 08:50:33 AM
I own several John Denver albums, too. I've just been listening to Billy Bragg in the office.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 14, 2006, 09:28:50 AM
I have John Denver records and cassettes, and last month I saw his GH CD on sale, so I brought that, too, to listen in the truck on he ride home. Has three (bonus) tracks I never heard before. Who is Billy Bragg? Never heard of him.
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Post by: Caissa on November 14, 2006, 09:44:11 AM
Check him out at Wikipedia Boom Boom. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Bragg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Bragg)

Small sample below

Stephen William Bragg (born December 20, 1957), known as Billy Bragg, is an English musician renowned for his blend of folk, punk-rock, and protest music, and his poetic lyrics dealing with political as well as romantic themes. He has been active for over 20 years, and has collaborated with many other leading musicians, including Johnny Marr of The Smiths, protest folk singer Leon Rosselson, members of R.E.M., Less Than Jake, Kirsty MacColl, and Wilco.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 14, 2006, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Caissa
...and has collaborated with many other leading musicians, including Johnny Marr of The Smiths, protest folk singer Leon Rosselson, members of R.E.M., Less Than Jake, Kirsty MacColl, and Wilco.


More people I've never heard of. I have a lot of catching up to do. Someday I'll list the people I do listen to, many of whom I've seen live in concert, including Muddy Waters, James Cotton Blues Band, Donovan, Murray McLaughlin, Colleen Peterson, and many others.

ETA: Colleen Peterson died about ten years ago - I have two of her albums.
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Post by: Caissa on November 14, 2006, 10:00:37 AM
Now Playing: The Best of Muddy Waters
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 14, 2006, 10:17:16 AM
I've seen many of the blues greats at Le Hibou when it was on Sussex in the 60s and 70s. Muddy Waters, James Cotton, Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee, and others. I miss those days.
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Post by: Caissa on November 14, 2006, 10:23:49 AM
Growing up in Saint John in the 70s was a pretty White Bread  (TM)experience. I remember when a black colleague in the history programme at Western took me to a Blues bar for the first time in my life in the late 80s. What an experience. The older get the more I realize the good musice I missed listening to top 40 radio as a youth.
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Post by: Debra on November 14, 2006, 01:29:15 PM
Had the first of my cardiac tests today. Got shot up with some radioactive matter and then had to lie on my back for 15 getting "pictures" taken of my heart. talk about claustrophobia.   :shock:

and I have to go through the same thing again tomorrow except with a treadmill component. More tests next week and in Dec. blah.
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Post by: Alix on November 14, 2006, 01:32:41 PM
That sounds dreadful, Debra. I hope everything turns out exactly the way you want it to.
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Post by: Holly Stick on November 14, 2006, 01:34:19 PM
Quote from: Boom Boom
... Colleen Peterson died about ten years ago - I have two of her albums.


I have a couple of the Quartette CDs with her.
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Post by: k'in on November 14, 2006, 01:37:49 PM
Sorry you're going through all that Debra.  I had to go through a bunch of tests(only one day though) when I was a kid to check out a heart murmur (turned out to be nothing) but it was like being abducted by aliens.  
 :tbwave:
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Post by: Debra on November 14, 2006, 01:46:09 PM
Quote from: k'in
Sorry you're going through all that Debra.  I had to go through a bunch of tests(only one day though) when I was a kid to check out a heart murmur (turned out to be nothing) but it was like being abducted by aliens.  
 :tbwave:


hee hee yep All except the anal probe. Fortunately  :D
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Post by: Caissa on November 14, 2006, 01:54:07 PM
We know you're all heart, Debra. You'll get through this and be better on the other end. :hug
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on November 14, 2006, 01:57:29 PM
I hope the tests will be able to quickly reveal what the problem is Debra, and that it is one that is easily remidied.  It took them a long time to finally catch my Dad's angina, during which he would complain about being wired up and poked and prodded like a lab rat.   :hug
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Post by: skdadl on November 14, 2006, 02:20:22 PM
I don't mean to be irreverent, but Debra wrote:

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hee hee yep All except the anal probe.

And then Caissa wrote:

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You'll get through this and be better on the other end.


:D

Debra, here's hoping you're better on both ends, and everywhere in the middle.

I guess nobody wants to hear about my trip to the dentist. Good, because I don't want to tell. I'm afraid I'll bite my tongue.
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Post by: Caissa on November 14, 2006, 02:21:30 PM
You sound down in the mouth about it, skdadl.  :(
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Post by: Holly Stick on November 14, 2006, 02:27:28 PM
And Caissa shoots off his mouth again.

 :hockey:  :blahblah  :lol:
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Post by: Debra on November 14, 2006, 02:29:43 PM
and what did the evil dentist do this session?  I hate going to the dentist.
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Post by: Caissa on November 14, 2006, 02:30:01 PM
You make it sound like a negative thing. :shock:
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Post by: skdadl on November 14, 2006, 02:35:51 PM
Well, she's coming to the end of what she calls her renovations (she's mainly taking out old fillings and putting in new ones, which I like because they look like teeth, not all metallic), but today was a multi-operation in a difficult corner, so she ended up giving me three needles because the first one didn't freeze the right way (I have too many nerves, she says) ... so right now, from nose to throat, I am paralysed.

I am so hungry. I can't tell you how hungry I am. But I'm afraid to eat. I can't even smoke properly. Or drink without drooling. Wah. *tantrum smiley*
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Post by: Debra on November 14, 2006, 02:42:49 PM
eek!

I hate that feeling and it is often worse as it starts to fade. :(

Be careful and don't forget kitties are very forgiving of drool.  :rub:
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Post by: fern hill on November 14, 2006, 02:51:07 PM
I was cleaning, with a couple of breaks to see what you gyus were up to. I have dial-up but also voice-mail that takes messages when I'm on the phone. Knock on door. It's sweetie. Moi: 'Oh yeah, now we're married, you think you can just drop in without warning.' sweetie: 'I left you a message.' Ewps. He came to fix my squeaky chair. I have a lovely old oak swivel desk chair that has developed an annoying squeak. He's looked at it before but it had foxed him. Today he came armed with different kinds of oils and greases. And fixed it!

Debra, you have my sympathy. sweetie went through two rounds of that kind of thing two years in a row.

And skdadl, oooh, I hate that. Frozen nose is the worst.
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Post by: skdadl on November 14, 2006, 02:53:55 PM
Wow. Married a week, and already she's pushing her luck. "Letting herself go," that used to be called. I'll bet she was still in her pink chenille dressing gown at the time, with curlers in her hair, a ciggie dangling from her mouth, and a good few inches of gin in her glass ...
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Post by: brebis noire on November 14, 2006, 02:54:00 PM
skdadl, whatever you do, don't start biting your lip just because you can't feel it. My 4-yr-old did that last week (everybody kept telling him not to, but the more we did, the more he did....) and when the freezing finally wore off, It Hurt. Owie.  :(
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Post by: skdadl on November 14, 2006, 02:56:44 PM
Oh, I'm trying hard not to. That's why I'm not eating, because I can't tell where all the fleshy parts are. I'm so hungry, though.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 15, 2006, 11:03:35 AM
What a day. Woke up this morning to water on the floor under the roof leak, which was fixed Saturday. The contractor pried the ceiling tiles down to see what happened, and apparently, before the leak was fixed, water was making its way down to the ceiling insualtion, and just now reached the lowest level, and is dripping away. He thinks the roof repair is fine - just let the insulation dry up over the next few days, and call him if it gets worse. So, we're hopeful. I've got the floor cleaned up. He also came over to fix the shower stall plumbing, but took one look at it and saw it needs a part he doesn't have, so has ordered it, and it should arrive on the supply ship Friday, along withthe plexiglass to replace the wall where I broke the glass last week. Now, I can't take either a shower or a bath because the water line is shut off - the municipal guy is installing a new pipe for the deep well pump. I'm sweaty, and I smell, and can't get cleaned up for a few hours yet. Who knew home ownership would be this difficult? :(

ETA: The good news is that it's stopped raining for a bit, it's not cold, and I have the furnace off and several windows open to air out this place. It's a mild 10C today.  :)
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Post by: fern hill on November 15, 2006, 11:44:23 AM
Wow, Boom Boom, you've had more than your share of ugly surprises, haven't you? I hope you get everything squared away, so that you'll be nice and cozy this winter.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on November 15, 2006, 12:43:18 PM
Quote from: Boom Boom
... Now, I can't take either a shower or a bath because the water line is shut off - the municipal guy is installing a new pipe for the deep well pump. I'm sweaty, and I smell, and can't get cleaned up for a few hours yet. Who knew home ownership would be this difficult? :(  ETA: The good news is that it's stopped raining for a bit, it's not cold, and I have the furnace off and several windows open to air out this place. It's a mild 10C today.  :)
 Good news indeed - because you own watershore property you can bathe right off your beach!  The air is warmer than the water in the St Lawrence, right?   :wink:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 15, 2006, 01:12:08 PM
Well, I'd love to wade right in, but... every property on the coast, uses a septic tank to dispose of raw sewage, and it seeps into the Gulf, apparently - this hasn't been conclusively confirmed, so far as I know. But I'd be hesitant to wade in. Besides, I'd have to scamper down a cliff - quite a drop - and back up again. I'd guess the best place for wading in would be the long sandy beach - about a mile long - two blocks east of my home. BTW, just returned from the community water pump - will be another hour before the water is turned on, they replaced the old pump, but the new one seized up, so they have to replace that one, too. We don't get good service from the Municipal Office further down the coast.
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Post by: fern hill on November 15, 2006, 04:14:21 PM
So, Debra, what did you do today?
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Post by: Debra on November 15, 2006, 04:31:56 PM
Went up to the hospital for part 2.

Had to have an IV put in and they couldn't find a vein in my hand so put it in a small vein in my arm but I think she put it too close to the wall cause it hurt like hell. Anyway then they hooked me up to a bunch of different wires and blood pressure cuff etc and I had to walk on the treadmill.

Went ok for awhile, Doc said it was obvious I was someone who tried to stay fit but then suddenly I felt like I couldn't draw breath so they shut it down and had me sit down. Then heart kicked in with a few extra beats, hate that feeling.

I went for about 7 minutes which is pathetic since I used to do 30 to 60 at the gym just last year.

And I had to have the tracer shot and have more heart "pictures" taken.

The doc said he was shooting for me to do 9 minutes next time, which makes me wonder if they have already found something.

Mike is a big guy and just as a preventative they had him do these tests. and that was the end of it. They never mentioned him having to do them again.

And I won't know for awhile cause they said the doctor would have the results in about a week.
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Post by: fern hill on November 15, 2006, 04:45:35 PM
Debra, try not to jump to conclusions. They are being thorough. We like that in cardiologists. :wink:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 15, 2006, 06:09:56 PM
The clinic here sends me to the hospital in Sept-Iles every two years for the treadmill test, and have me hooked up to all kinds of machines. I had a small stroke in 2002 so this is a preventative step. I'm glad it's not every year, although it's great to visit Sept-Iles at the province's expense - I make a few days holiday out of it; I can return home when I want.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 16, 2006, 09:39:57 AM
Hurray! Had a shower and the plumbing didn't leak! And, the insulation under where the roof leak was is dry now, and it's been raining overnight. Nice.  :)
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Post by: fern hill on November 16, 2006, 09:50:42 AM
So, like, sweetie was coming here for dinner last night. Because I felt in need of a little comfort, I planned to make my mother's super-duper-guaranteed-to-put-a-smile-in-your-belly meatloaf. And because I try to be good, I figured I'd use the oven for scalloped potatoes at the same time. I got both dishes ready, turned on gas oven. Wait. Wait. Wait way longer than usual. No go. So I looked. Pilot light on. Stove-top burners work. Try again. No go. Call sweetie. He says there is probably a bubble in the line somewhere and I should get in there and tap on the pipes. OK. Pull stove out so I can get in behind. Yuck. Sweep. OK. Only one pipe in. Tap, tap, tap. Try again. No go. Etfuckingcetera.

Finally, I admit this is not going to work. What to do with uncooked meatloaf and scalloped potatoes? Meatloaf becomes hamburglars, potatoes go in microwave. Not great, but edible.

Now I have to call the superintendent whose English is not so good and try to explain that I need a stove repairman. He won't understand. He'll come here. I'll try to explain again. And it's raining and it's my fucking birthday and I have to go out for lunch.
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Post by: skdadl on November 16, 2006, 09:54:55 AM
Aw. She's nesting. That is so cute.   :wink:

Have a wonderful lunch, fern hill. And just remember what Gilda Radner said: "It's always something."  

About this:

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my mother's super-duper-guaranteed-to-put-a-smile-in-your-belly meatloaf.


May we have the instructions, plz?
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Post by: kuri on November 16, 2006, 09:19:25 PM
L. and I just got back from the mountains to discover the hot water tank spewing stuff all over the basement. We were thinking of going tankless (http://www.gotankless.com/) but needed to upgrade our electricity first. That would've been a lot more affordable 8 months from now. :(
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 16, 2006, 09:21:51 PM
I've been told the average life of a hot water tank around here is five years, more or less. Why can't they make these darned things last longer?
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Post by: kuri on November 16, 2006, 09:29:24 PM
That's what I don't get! I even googled about fixing them, but it looks like no one does it and if they do, it's more expensive than replacing them. The house inspector reckoned we had another 2 years or so on ours but I guess not. :(

Still not sure what we'll do. I like the tankless in theory but I'm a little skeptical. In the meantime, I guess I'll be going swimming a lot in the next few days, more or less for the hot showers at the pool.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 16, 2006, 09:31:29 PM
Quote from: kuri
L. and I just got back from the mountains to discover the hot water tank spewing stuff all over the basement. We were thinking of going tankless (http://www.gotankless.com/) but needed to upgrade our electricity first. That would've been a lot more affordable 8 months from now. :(


I would need the bigger 'Tankless 240' at well over a thousand bucks CDN with taxes, shipping and installation because I live in a very cold winter climate. The smallest one (over $600 installed) is for tropical climates.

Purchase and installation of 60 gallon hot water tank here will cost me about $350, but I'd be looking at replacing it again in five or so years.

The 'tankless' looks interesting, though - I'll ask my contractor what he thinks. If I can afford the 240, and my electrical supply is adequate, I'd be very interested in this. Thanks for the link - it looks like an awesome product!
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Post by: kuri on November 17, 2006, 12:57:22 AM
Yeah, that's the one we're thinking of. L's convinced it saves money in the long run because it's not constantly heating water when it's not needed. I just wished we had a bit longer to make a decision. :(

We also need to replace our pipes sometime soon to PVC (they're galvanized steel now). And it might make more sense to do that all at the same time. It's just not very financially convenient right before Christmas.

Argh.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 17, 2006, 07:10:28 AM
Q: does anyone in this forum have experience with the Tankless Water Heater? I'd like to know your opinions of this system. Thanks!

I like the idea of these things, because I worry about going off the coast for a few weeks and coming home to a hot water tank that has flooded my basement. I've taken to shutting off the main water intake and turning the thermostat on the tank down to 'zero' before I leave.
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Post by: skdadl on November 17, 2006, 08:10:53 AM
Ooh. You've just reminded me. I have to turn off the water to the garden.

Water heaters? I have one? I need to think about it?  :shock:

I repeat: As Gilda Radner said, "It's always something."
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 17, 2006, 08:17:55 AM
I've been told our hot water heaters here last on average five years. That seems short to me. Still, anyone on this forum have experience with the  Tankless Water Heater System? :shower:  :bath
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Post by: Debra on November 17, 2006, 08:18:03 AM
http://www.tanklesswaterheaterguide.com/ (http://www.tanklesswaterheaterguide.com/)

tankless info
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 17, 2006, 08:39:55 AM
More on tankless: What's The Big Deal About Tankless Water Heaters? (http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:Z2WXMrRkUzkJ:www.nyletherm.com/whitepaper2.pdf+electric+hot+water+heaters+-+life+expectancy&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=3)

CONCLUSION:
Tankless water heaters have advantages. They are compact and are easy to drain; consequently, they could be ideal for applications where space is a premium or in small vacation homes. In addition, they could serve quite effectively in point of use applications.  However, their use as the central source of hot water in a residence should be carefully considered.  While tankless water heaters offer some modest energy cost savings over storage water heaters (hot water tanks), those minimal gains are at the expense of higher initial costs, higher installation costs, higher maintenance costs and the potential need for lifestyle changes to accommodate the limited flow rate output of tankless water heaters.  In addition, with the coming increase in EnergyFactor required by NECA II, the Energy Factor differences between tankless and storage water heaters (hot water tanks) will become even smaller.
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Post by: Debra on November 17, 2006, 09:02:52 AM
mind you my understanding is that these types of units have been used in Europe for years.

They are much better at space and energy saving devices than we are. And much more ready to accept them. But as our resources dwindle at an alarmingly faster pace I think we need to get on board and stop thinking that bigger is always better.
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Post by: skdadl on November 17, 2006, 09:11:15 AM
Oh. Are we talking about those horrid things I lived with in England in 1970? Argh. They are awful, or they sure were then.

The worst thing about them as I recall was temperature control -- because they are heating your water on demand, you go from cold to boiling hot terribly quickly, and trying to regulate the temperature is so difficult. And then supply is a problem -- it takes a long time for enough water to be ready for much more than washing your hands. Really: I sometimes wondered why we didn't just go back to pumping cold water and then putting kettlesful on the stove -- there didn't seem to me much difference in the systems.

Perhaps the tech has improved since those days, but I found those devices such tacky little horrors.
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Post by: Debra on November 17, 2006, 09:16:44 AM
the technology has changed considerably.

Think of the little spouts you can get attached to your sink that provide instant boiling water. Properly outfitted a tankless heater is similar and the energy savings are quite significant.

I watched a show about them but can't remember all the specifics.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 17, 2006, 09:37:29 AM
The tankless sytems are probably okay in the city where you can get qualified people to install and maintain them. I saw on another link that standard hot water tanks that cost $300 should last ten - fifteen years, so I'll have to ask around why they're saying just five years. The technology on those tankless systems is complicated, needs yearly maintenance, not to mention a powerful electrical supply.
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Post by: kuri on November 17, 2006, 10:49:41 AM
Cool. I'm going to get L. to read this page of the thread when he gets up, and the links. :)
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Post by: fern hill on November 17, 2006, 12:11:53 PM
Argh. The gas stove saga continues. I called the supt and he came up last evening. I said we needed a stove repairperson. He said he'd take a look. He said (I think, we have communication difficulties) that where the gas comes out was just dirty. I couldn't really see what he was doing. When he started banging on something in there really hard, I hadda leave the room. Much banging. Then a victory yell. It was working.

This morning when I got up, I thought I smelled gas. Just now I came in from running errands and I definitely smell gas. I called him again. No answer.

This supt tortures me. I like him. He's a nice guy, very polite. For example, when the yuppies were looking at my place and turning on lights, he went around behind them turning them off again. But he's incompetent. Unfortunately, he's also enthusiastic. He says he likes to learn. So while I want to yell at him, I can't really.
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Post by: Debra on November 17, 2006, 12:16:05 PM
If you smell gas call the gas company, now!

And don't light any cigs and open the windows.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 17, 2006, 12:16:48 PM
At lunchtime I turned on the telly for the news, and instead watched "Clean" (2005) with Maggie Cheung. Great, very European movie, she's a pop singer whose boyfriend died of an overdose, she spent time in prison for supplying the drugs, tries to get her act together to regain custody of their son. Quite well done, with a very craggy-looking Nick Nolte, who has cleaned himself and gotten off drugs up quite well.
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Post by: k'in on November 17, 2006, 12:19:32 PM
Boom Boom-I just recycled a brochure about tankless water heaters but going on memory it seemed as if:
-speaking strictly money, it will cost the average household more.  It is like the difference between a honda civic  and honda civic hybrid.  You will save some in fuel over time but nowhere near the $10,000 purchase cost differential.  This seems to be a problem with many "efficient" products.
-in our climate, you need a powerful model (more expensive and requires adequate power supply).  The one I was looking at is 200,000 btu.
-there was an issue that you couldn't run the water heater & furnace at same time.  I don't know if this is universal but definitely a non-starter for me (I like to be warm when I hop out of the shower.)

It does bother me that every morning I have a shower/wash hair and don't need hot water again until later in the day.  Yet, every day, right after, the tank runs and reheats which seems like such a waste.  I don't understand why the utility company won't offer smaller tanks as a compromise but they tell me rentals are no smaller than 40 gallon.  Another possibility would be to make tanks with manual controls or timers to reheat on demand or expected need.

skdadl-yikes-I've experienced those ancient European models with the open flame that adds the freeze and fry effect to showering.
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Post by: fern hill on November 17, 2006, 12:50:42 PM
OK, I called the property manager who is looking after it apparently. I've got the windows open. Pretty cool day for this nonsense.
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Post by: chester on November 17, 2006, 12:54:14 PM
you can buy on demand hot water systems from home depot or rona.  the initial price differential is substantial.  i just installed a direct vent water heater that cost $700, an on demand system would be a minimum of $1500 plus installation so $2000.  still, my calculations based on an estimate of saving 50% of hot water costs suggests saving $15 a month so a payback period of 7-10 years.
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Post by: fern hill on November 17, 2006, 01:15:01 PM
Well, that was exciting. Two gas guys showed up pretty snappily. Used a gas detector, couldn't find anything, but apparently the brass flex used to connect the stove to the gas line must be replaced. They turned my gas off and red-tagged the appliance. Oooh.
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Post by: Caissa on November 17, 2006, 01:37:37 PM
So are you going to let sweetie take you out for dinner tonight? :D
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Post by: fern hill on November 17, 2006, 01:49:45 PM
You betcha. In fact, it was already planned, but we were going to come back here and now we'll go to his place. I tell ya, this having two abodes is good.
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on November 17, 2006, 02:27:55 PM
Argh!  I just got a paper cut.  And not one of those generally pain in the ass ones from normal paper, but this one was from a file folder, so it's the thicker, more insidious type.  And it's right across the back of my index finger knuckle, thus ensuring that it will never keep closed.  Damn, those things go deep.

I know, I know.  I lead a pretty good life if my biggest complaint (and only real workplace hazzard) is a paper cut.  But it's friday.  It's been raining and sunless forever.  I'm tired.  Wahh.

(gotta get it all out now before someone expects me to be the 'grown-up' presence around)

btw, about the in-line water heaters.  Mr. Sun was drooling all over them about a year ago, but our tank is still in good shape and only a few years old.  Basically, the hybrid car analogy was right.  You're not going to save tons of money because the inital purchace/install price is higher.  But they are more energy efficient to run.
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Post by: skdadl on November 18, 2006, 07:24:25 AM
What is this with so many BnRers cutting their fingers? First shaolin; then fern hill (well: in memory), and now SS.

Kitchens, offices: people -- be careful out there!
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 18, 2006, 09:10:04 AM
You can expect a lot of small cuts doing home repair. There's some rather sharp metal edges on my wood furnace that I didn't know about until gave myself a deep cut, but it healed quickly. I've taken to wearing utility gloves when handling firewood because of the splinters I was getting.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 18, 2006, 09:24:34 PM
I'm watching "Canada's Worst Driver" on the Discovery Channel. It's a hoot! It's a series - I've seen about seven of these so far. Can't believe those morons have driver's licenses. :shock:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 19, 2006, 02:51:10 PM
Busy day - spent the morning building shelves for my office and woodworking workbench, then cut some wood outlines for bird houses, bird feeders, planter holders for pots, and wood decorations for the garden - flowers and birds. This is a winter project - I still have to buy a scroll saw (I used my jig saw this morning) and clamps. And made a beef stew that may take four hours to completely cook.
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Post by: Debra on November 19, 2006, 02:54:51 PM
Geez you're makin me tired.  :wink:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 19, 2006, 02:59:37 PM
I'm exhausted, to be honest.  :age:
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Post by: skdadl on November 19, 2006, 03:28:39 PM
But it's a good tired, eh?  :wink:

I wish I were tired that way. I've been reading all day. There are floors to be washed, which just makes me read more.   :wink:
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Post by: Mandos on November 19, 2006, 03:41:18 PM
I have been reading all week, and I am currently avoiding doing that even though I have to present two papers I didn't write on Tuesday and write a review of three very difficult papers at the same time.  

And I am still recovering from Friday's embarassment when I went to meet my advisor to explain back to her the (long) papers she had me read the week before.  I read them, but apparently I missed the points she *wanted* me to get from them, and I babbled and started blithering-idiotifying and it was mortifying and I wish I could have zipped up my mouth and turned on my brain instead of vice versa.  She was probably thinking "Thank God it's not his defence for another several years!"
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 19, 2006, 05:29:56 PM
Quote from: skdadl
But it's a good tired, eh?  :wink:


Oh, absolutely. And, the stew was cooked in two hours - I thought it might need four. Had a delicious stew (used a cross rib roast cut into chunks, taters, onions, and a lot of carrots) and watched "Primary Colours". Jeez - does Emma Thompson  ever look like Hillary in that movie! :shock:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 19, 2006, 11:51:53 PM
It's after midnight and I'm playing Line Rider.
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Post by: Timebandit on November 20, 2006, 12:19:24 AM
Weboggle.  I hate it when the blond guy is away.  I don't sleep right.
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Post by: peppermint on November 20, 2006, 02:31:31 PM
in Toronto, doing heavy duty Christmas shopping.    All that's left are something for Dad, maybe marine- ish and great chocolate for  a friend.  Any suggestions on where to get either?

( this guy is tres serious bout his sweets-  when three guys tried to mug him a few weeks ago, he told them "All I've got is chocolate, and you're not getting that."  After a couple of well placed strikes, the guys ran off.  :lol: )
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Post by: skdadl on November 20, 2006, 04:21:20 PM
peppermint, you can phone in or order online from Bernard Callebaut in Toronto here. (http://www.bernardc.ca/)  Their chocolate is celestial.

A new chocolatier has just opened up near me (we have no real food in this neighbourhood, but suddenly we have expensive chocolate???): Stubbe Chocolates and Pastries, 653 Dupont, which is just east of Christie Street on Dupont, south side, facing Loblaw's.
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Post by: arborman on November 20, 2006, 04:30:05 PM
I don't know if it's been done yet (I missed a few pages), but I can't resist.

Water heating is a tankless job.

There, I said it.


Here I am at work with a deadline looming (LOOMING).
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Post by: Herr Magoo on November 20, 2006, 04:39:10 PM
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Here I am at work with a deadline looming (LOOMING).


So you're a weaver, then?

I'm just wrapping up stuff and getting ready to ride home, in the dark.  I think we'll be going out for Persian tonight (Pomegranate, on College).  I think I'll be having the lamb in lamb sauce with a lamb salad, and if there's room, lamb pie a la lamb.  And a coffee.
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Post by: arborman on November 20, 2006, 04:42:28 PM
Quote from: Herr Magoo
And a coffee.


With a bit of lamb stirred in?  Mmm, lamb.  

One of the many benefits of being in my family is an endless and free supply of yummy lambchops - being that my parents have a sheep farm.  :)
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Post by: skdadl on November 20, 2006, 05:06:37 PM
arborman! You mean that you eat lambs that you have met? In real life? Personally?   :shock:

How could you?
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Post by: Mandos on November 20, 2006, 05:10:52 PM
I've done it.  When I was eight, me, my mom, and my brother visited my grandfather in Pakistan over Eid ul-Adha.  In a proper Muslim country, that means mass sacrifice of animals in backyards, including in genteel elite Westernised neighbourhoods (my grandfather lived in what was once vaguely equivalent to Rosedale, except far more crowded with luxury multiplexes since there isn't all that much space).  The chauffeur drove us over to the market where we picked out the cutest sheeply creature.  A few hours later it was gutted and skinned and cooked and ready for several days of alcohol-free bacchanalia.
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Post by: arborman on November 20, 2006, 05:31:11 PM
Quote from: skdadl
arborman! You mean that you eat lambs that you have met? In real life? Personally?   :shock:

How could you?


Well, in a bizarre evolutionary twist that could only happen on a farm, the best thing that can happen to a lamb is to get rejected by its mother.  As a result, it gets bottle fed by my mother, gets a name, and then gets to live to a ripe old age flirting & boinking with a succession of rams.

Those that do not get names, however...  Well, I'm of the opinion that if one is going to eat meat, one should be aware of exactly what is involved in getting it to your table.  These ones are organic (in that my parents would never countenance poisons near their home), treated well and have a huge outdoor place to live.  Until one day they walk into the barn and the lights go out.  It could be worse.

For clarity, this is not a big operation.  15-20 sheep in the winter, 40-50 in the summer.  It's mostly to keep my dad busy, my mom's wheel spinning, and my freezer full (sis is a veggie).
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Post by: k'in on November 20, 2006, 05:36:29 PM
I have to confess that I don't eat lamb either.  When I was little, one day my Dad brought home twin baby lambs.  The mother had died giving birth.  We bottle fed them and they thrived.  They lived in our house (basement).  To this day everytime I see a Bedlington terrier I think of lambs.  I don't judge others that eat lamb though.
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Post by: skdadl on November 20, 2006, 05:37:28 PM
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(sis is a veggie)


I don't wonder.   :wink:

I've known these situations, mind you. One of Thorfinn's cousins runs a huge farm in Scotland, and I always know, when I'm eating one of those ineffably lovely beef lunches they serve us, that a few months ago ... But never mind.

Thorfinn's daughter had a talent for saving goat kids who were having a rough time. Such elegant wee creatures, clip clip clip clop ...  And then people eat them at Easter.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 21, 2006, 10:24:49 AM
The shower stall is now complete - what a massive job that was! This morning we had to cut the furnace ductwork to get at the damaged plumbing, then used a lot of duct tape to re-attach it all. So much duct tape that I think we're now members in good standing of Red Green's Possum Lodge. :lol:  I have to wait 24 hours for the waterproofing putty to dry around the drain, but everything is a tight fit, so should be okay. Now, for the Possum Lodge motto (hope I got this right): "I'm a man, but I can change". :age:
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 10:27:47 AM
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Now, for the Possum Lodge motto (hope I got this right): "I'm a man, but I can change". age


*snerk*

I, as usual on a Tuesday these days, am getting ready to go to ... the ... [fill in the blank -- there's a prize for the right answer].
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Post by: Debra on November 21, 2006, 10:35:04 AM
oh oh me me.... dentist?
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 10:36:21 AM
Debra! Is the winner! Of ... a ... um ... lovely ... ah ... lemme think.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 21, 2006, 11:02:36 AM
I've been corrected. The motto for Red Green's Possum Lodge is: Quondo Omni Flunkus Mortati (when all else fails, play dead). That fits me better, actually.
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Post by: Alix on November 21, 2006, 11:06:42 AM
Yes, but the pledge is:

I am a man,
But I can change.
If I have to.
I guess.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 21, 2006, 11:51:57 AM
Apparently I won't make it as a pro carpenter or plumber, because I don't swear enough. Apparently you have to be able to curse like a stevedore when you hit a finger with a hammer or cut yourself with a saw. Actually, I've noticed there's one or two women on this board that curse more than I do, which is rarely. :rant2

PS:  :lol:
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Post by: chcmd on November 21, 2006, 11:56:43 AM
:oops: :wink:
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Post by: Debra on November 21, 2006, 12:06:06 PM
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I've noticed there's one or two women on this board that curse more than I do, which is rarely.


HEY!!! I resemble that remark! 8)
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Post by: brebis noire on November 21, 2006, 12:06:45 PM
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Apparently I won't make it as a pro carpenter or plumber, because I don't swear enough. Apparently you have to be able to curse like a stevedore when you hit a finger with a hammer or cut yourself with a saw.


Funny, but true. The guy that comes around to work on our house swears like he's reciting his rosary. It doesn't bother me much anymore, but I used to find it mildly disturbing. And there have been a couple of days when I've sent him home just as the school bus arrives....

I didn't swear at all before I started manual work as a large animal vet. It just came with the terrain. Electrocute self on the cow rail: FUCK! Burn finger with the horn burner: FUCKFUCK! AAGH! Bang head on extra-low barn ceiling: SHIT!! Get kicked in the knee: TABARNACK!! (while hopping around on other foot)
I could go on, but you got the point. After a while though, it starts to come out for lesser evils...
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 12:09:47 PM
Me? Swear?   :innocent  :whis:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 21, 2006, 12:29:39 PM
When I was active as an arm-twister (let the reader understand) I'd hear a long string of blue invective more often than not. Mostly, cursing comes about from the need to let out anger ("venting") and, in my case, frustration with immovable objects that I need to get the hell out of the way. I once started writing a book to be titled "Don't swear - it sounds like hell" about the need for civility, but later that same day I gouged myself on my right hand with a power wood lathe. !@#$%!!!!!!!, I said.  :oops:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 21, 2006, 12:33:16 PM
I think the only time I let loose with blue invective nowadays is around my power tools. Something about not cutting a wood outline correctly, maening that the whole @#$%^&*!!!!! thing has to be done over, causes me to let loose with the nasty stuff. :oops:  :(
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 21, 2006, 12:34:40 PM
Actually, Harpoon and (Flaherty) often cause me to let loose with the @#$%^!!!! also. :oops:
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Post by: Caissa on November 21, 2006, 12:44:19 PM
I worked at the Port of Saint John for 6 summers around some prodigious swearers. The "best" ever was a MWO in the Reserve artillery who could use the f- word as a highly inventive syllable.
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Post by: Caissa on November 21, 2006, 01:12:19 PM
Off to give a workshop on preparing for and writing essay style exams.
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 02:48:09 PM
You should see my two front teeth!   :mrgreen:

The dentist did this magic refinishing on them -- I don't have crowns, but it's as though I just got two new front teeth! They look so neat -- I can't get over it.  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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Post by: brebis noire on November 21, 2006, 02:53:47 PM
That's an early Christmas present....

all I want for Christmas is my two front teeth, my two front teeth, my two front teeth... :hockey:
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 02:56:31 PM
:lol:

Ha! I've just been sitting here singing that song to m'self ...

And realizing that it is almost the same song as

I'm a lonely little petunia in an onion patch
An onion patch
An onion patch
I'm a lonely little petunia in an onion patch
And all I do is cry and cry all day.

Same song, do you think?
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Post by: brebis noire on November 21, 2006, 03:01:25 PM
:shock:
You're right!
And it's the same annoying little voice in my head who's singing it!
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Post by: k'in on November 21, 2006, 03:04:02 PM
yeah-same song but it's public domain so no infringement.  I guess we should be happy there's not more of them!
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Post by: Caissa on November 21, 2006, 03:05:00 PM
Skdadl said something nice about the dentist. Okay, Debra, who hacked inbto Skdadl's account? :shock:
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 03:12:44 PM
Actually, I feel a little like Bugs Bunny right now.

The whole time she was working, she had those cotton rolls shoved up under my top lip, so I was doing Bugs Bunny whenever I tried to talk. Those rolls were stuck there for an hour, and I can't get rid of that sensation. I still feel like wrinkling up my nose and setting my two front teeth over my lower lip and saying "What's up, Doc?"    :mrgreen:

Somebody hand me a carrot.
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Post by: fern hill on November 21, 2006, 03:18:16 PM
I'm off to sign my new will which is exactly like my old will, but the old one becomes invalid when one gets hitched. The old one is just over a year old. I'm going to be very interested to see how much the lawyer charges for running it through the word-processor again with a new date.
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 03:20:55 PM
You're getting your PAs at the same time, yes? Very important, fern hill. Wills haven't meant much to me yet, but PAs sure have.
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Post by: fern hill on November 21, 2006, 03:25:33 PM
PAs are still good, unaffected by marriage.
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 03:38:31 PM
Oh, good. As long as you can be the boss and make other people accept that you are the boss: that's what matters.   :wink:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 21, 2006, 03:40:59 PM
I had a bowl of Raisin Bran yesterday and promptly knocked out a filling. The dentist won't be here until maybe sometime next month Woe is me.:(
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Post by: Herr Magoo on November 21, 2006, 04:08:38 PM
Remember when I got my two wisdom teeth out in August?  All fairly uneventful, except that the sockets themselves, the bony part, poked through my gums on both sides.  Just a sharp little shard in each case, and at first it was just odd, then it was annoying, then it started to shred the living hell out of my tongue, to the point that I made a grimace each time I swallowed.  I briefly considered just taking a screwdriver and a mallet and knocking them off, but, well, I could just picture making a big crack that went down to my adam's apple or something, and while wacky plans like that sound great in your head when they work, try saying them when they don't ("Why is my jaw wired shut?  Well, I decided to play oral surgeon with a screwdriver, as you do...")

So on the one side it healed over nicely, but on the other side it wasn't healing that well at all.  Both sides had healed a bit, intermittently, but then I'd go and try to eat a big sandwich or something, and I'd notice the sharp bony bits again.  And I really didn't want to take a day off work, go get my face frozen up, have stitches, etc., etc., if I could avoid it.

Anyway, last night I took my thumb and kind of felt around at the bony bit, and *pop*, it fell right off.  Hallelujah!  A little piece of jawbone, about the size of the wee little "nose" on a peanut, raking the living crap out of my tongue, and now it's gone.  Gone.  Hahahaha!  GONE!
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Post by: arborman on November 21, 2006, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: skdadl
You're getting your PAs at the same time, yes? Very important, fern hill. Wills haven't meant much to me yet, but PAs sure have.


What's a PA?  I don't have one, but I bet we need one...
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Post by: Bacchus on November 21, 2006, 04:16:37 PM
Hmm the same thing happened to me. The dentist called it a spur and said it would wear away/fall off when I complained /aka screamed & bitched about it

Krusty old Irishman, who has hairraising tales of dentistry in the UK and his experiences in the ER of a toronto hospital

When you lean back in his chair theres a sticker on the ceiling you can see that says "I was put here on this earth to make you miserable"

He also always says "This is going to hurt you way more than me, Im happy to say"

Though he swore up a storm where I coldcocked his dental hygienist into a wall
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 04:17:33 PM
Power of attorney (some people write PoA).

When someone is sick, they are definitely important. I think a spouse would always have access and information, but I was shocked to find, three years ago, that doctors would not tell my brother anything about my condition when I ended up having emergency surgery, although they would let him see me (at a point where I couldn't explain much). I didn't learn till later that the doctors wouldn't pass on any information -- I would certainly have given permission if asked.
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 04:21:00 PM
Herr Magoo: Congratulations!

Bacchus:  :shock:  You did WHAT?!?   :shock:
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Post by: James on November 21, 2006, 04:49:10 PM
It is important for people in Ontario to know that there are at least two different kinds of "power of attorney" that are needed here. One deals with property, the other with personal care. They are separate documents, separate requirements, and bestow entirely different powers. A general "power of attorney" will mean absolutely nothing to health care providers.

I'm not sure of the provisions in other jurisdictions.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 21, 2006, 05:45:00 PM
I gave my lawyer PA to handle all of my mortgage for me, as he was in Sept-Iles where all the provincial offices are (land deed, title, etc...) and also the bank HQ. For just over $1500 he handled everything. A bargain. This is something his office handles all the time.
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Post by: Bacchus on November 21, 2006, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Herr Magoo: Congratulations!

Bacchus:  :shock:  You did WHAT?!?   :shock:


Um well I had a accident while in england and chipped some teeth (I thought I had broken one) which did lead to a interesting Fort William X files type encounter. Upon my return home I went straight to my dentist who told the hygienst to look at it. She did and told me I had merely chipped the enamel. She then went to do a cleaning and testing. You know the testing where they take the metal probe and stick it in the teeth looking for cavities? Well she hit the hurt one, it broke up and the probe went straight into the nerve, leading me to scream "you bitch" and cold cock her into a wall. It was instinctive and I just rolled around screaming with this wild eyed, scraggy beard big irishman screaming "What the bluidy hell is going on here"

Took one look in my mouth, wrote a prescription for the most powerful painkillers around and said "laddy buck, see ye tomorrow morning at 8am for yer first root canal"

Never saw that hygienist again.
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Post by: skdadl on November 21, 2006, 06:58:32 PM
Ohhhh. You mean you punched her. Almost involuntarily, in reaction to the pain.

Ah, well, then. I misunderstood. Carry on.  :wink:
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Post by: Bacchus on November 21, 2006, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Ohhhh. You mean you punched her. Almost involuntarily, in reaction to the pain.

Ah, well, then. I misunderstood. Carry on.  :wink:



LOL OMG skdadl, that made me laugh out loud!
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 21, 2006, 07:09:10 PM
When I was a kid, our dentist  was a sadistic type (from the military, natch) who was getting on inyears, with the most scary, antiquated equipment you'll ever see. Anyway, one day he was short his assistant, so I had to hold the water tube that feeds into the mouth to rinse away the crap so the dentist can drill. He had been particularly vicious with his drilling that day, and, while he was taking a breather, I deliberately squirted him in the face, for the hell of it. He mumbled something under his breath while his face turned beet red, I think IIRC he was saying something like "you SOB bastard".  :lol:
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Post by: k'in on November 21, 2006, 07:21:57 PM
These dentist stories scare me.  I have the most wonderful, gentle dentist now.  He has never caused me pain and the last time he froze me was when I got my wisdom teeth out.  He really is that careful (although it's mostly been little repairs and not major stuff I've had.) And I only have to see him twice a year, he does the cleaning himself, and he is always punctual. He was recommended by a friend (was a friend of the guy's parents) back when I was 19. The first time I saw him he mentioned that he wished he could say he was 19, or 29, or 39 but he wasn't quite 49.  I think he has a kid or two in school or something which is good for me because I'd be devastated if he retired.

All other dentists, 'cept the first guy I saw when I was 3, but alas we moved, have been scary and weird.  The next guy was a psycho hybrid of Dr. Frankenstein and the actor Steve Martin.  It's a repressed childhood memory and we only got subjected to him twice but my brother and I used to bite his fingers and jump out of the chair and he would chase us around the room.  Then my parents would come in (which angered him) and claim we were evil children and his eyes would be all bugged out.  His peace offering was that we got to keep the air straw.  Woo hoo. Next up was greasy, hairy Elvis impersonator dentist.  He would sing off tune Elvis tunes and breathe his bad breath on you while he'd drill and fill.  Apparently his work was OK for me but my brother had to get most of his work redone.  Moved to the city and I've already told the tale of phantom wisdom teeth dentist.

The pioneer museum that used to come to town had a dentist office from the 1800s.  Basically a chair, a pair of pliers and a bottle of moonshine.
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Post by: Holly Stick on November 21, 2006, 08:03:41 PM
Quote from: k'in
... The next guy was a psycho hybrid of Dr. Frankenstein and the actor Steve Martin.  It's a repressed childhood memory and we only got subjected to him twice but my brother and I used to bite his fingers and jump out of the chair and he would chase us around the room.  Then my parents would come in (which angered him) and claim we were evil children and his eyes would be all bugged out.  His peace offering was that we got to keep the air straw.  Woo hoo. Next up was greasy, hairy Elvis impersonator dentist.  He would sing off tune Elvis tunes and breathe his bad breath on you while he'd drill and fill.  Apparently his work was OK for me but my brother had to get most of his work redone.  Moved to the city and I've already told the tale of phantom wisdom teeth dentist.

The pioneer museum that used to come to town had a dentist office from the 1800s.  Basically a chair, a pair of pliers and a bottle of moonshine.


How about Steve Martin as greasy, hairy Elvis impersonator? (http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/pages/movie/RI/Previews/Plans-37356.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/pages/movie/RI/190.html&h=291&w=430&sz=24&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=WNcJP31cV854WM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522steve%2Bmartin%2522%2B%2B%2522little%2Bshop%2Bof%2Bhorrors%2522%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26c2coff%3D1%26sa%3DG)
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Post by: k'in on November 21, 2006, 08:28:50 PM
:shock: OMG Holly!  That is one movie I ain't never gonna see!

I'm still having nightmares about the chomping brussels sprouts I saw here at B&R last week.
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Post by: skdadl on November 22, 2006, 06:44:45 AM
*snerk*
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Post by: Caissa on November 22, 2006, 07:21:35 AM
Off to give a test on Active Reading, changing habits and motivation. I had a dozen for my Exam prep workshop yesterday.
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Post by: Debra on November 22, 2006, 07:39:39 AM
I am going stark raving mad. I have to wear a heart monitor for 72 hours. IT comes off tomorrow at 3.30 but the electrode sticky pads are making my skin itchy and I just want to rip them off. aarrrrggggg!!!!!!!!
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Post by: skdadl on November 22, 2006, 07:51:49 AM
That is a long test, Debra. I remember that Thorfinn had to do that once overnight, which was trouble enough, but -- 72 hours? I wonder why.
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Post by: Debra on November 22, 2006, 08:04:40 AM
The tech seemed surprised too. It is usually 24 or sometimes 48 hours.

And of course those ordering the tests are so good at informing you about these things.  :roll:
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Post by: skdadl on November 22, 2006, 08:08:20 AM
Are you allowed to take a bath or a shower?
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Post by: Debra on November 22, 2006, 08:18:06 AM
nope.
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Post by: Caissa on November 22, 2006, 09:12:26 AM
Marking tests. Students are doing well on Active Reading but some are struggling on changing habits and motivation. :(
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Post by: Bacchus on November 22, 2006, 09:19:41 AM
Deleting Nigerian fraud profiles on my employers dating site since 7am so I can leave early to drive to the U.S. for thanksgiving
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Post by: Toedancer on November 22, 2006, 09:22:28 AM
Bacchus, what's the drill going over the border now? Which one do u use?
A young man in the village was telling me was going to U.S. soon through Gatineau. I gently mentioned his criminal record and he looked kind of stunned. But I believe he has to get some sort of pardon and even then the U.S. can turn him back. Is that so?
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Post by: Bacchus on November 22, 2006, 09:26:43 AM
Quote from: Toedancer
Bacchus, what's the drill going over the border now? Which one do u use?
A young man in the village was telling me was going to U.S. soon through Gatineau. I gently mentioned his criminal record and he looked kind of stunned. But I believe he has to get some sort of pardon and even then the U.S. can turn him back. Is that so?


I use the Fort Erie one or the Queenston one. Very little problems usually, especially since Im white, middle class and traveling with my U.S. wife and both have passports.

Regarding criminal records; if you have a pardon and the U.S. Border checks the canada criminal database they share, they wont find anything and your in. If you get refused at the border, then get a pardon, you will be refused because the U.S. does not recognize canadian pardons and you will still be in their computer forever more as having a criminal record.

And as per CNN today, anyone flying into the U.S> will have to have a passport (even a U.S. citizen) as of January 23 2007
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Post by: Toedancer on November 22, 2006, 09:38:29 AM
Oh My Goodness. Okay I shall at least look up the pardon information, find out how long it takes and tell him how important it is to get the pardon first.
Thanks.
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Post by: Bacchus on November 22, 2006, 09:48:34 AM
Happy to help. It is important to note they dont ALWAYS check the computer but its the majority of the cases these days (though I still tend to breeze through at queenston without anything more than a brief how long and a glance at the passport)
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 22, 2006, 09:55:03 AM
Doing electrical work in the house. The power will off for the next three or four hours, so will see ya all later. :)
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Post by: arborman on November 22, 2006, 01:18:13 PM
Still working on that report.  It still looms - 5 hours till deadline.

It's good stuff though - mostly editing and formatting, a bit more bumpf in the intro.  See how I'm not panicking?
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Post by: Caissa on November 22, 2006, 02:16:08 PM
One of the rules of procrastination is that you should never "should" on yourself. Waste of energy. You seem to be using that energy to ensure a polished final product. Good luck with the presentation.
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Post by: peppermint on November 22, 2006, 02:20:06 PM
funny, all the talk about dentists.  Am I the only one who laughs at myself for being such a wus when they inflict pain?  It's either that or "accidently" bite down on whatever fingers are in my mouth at the time
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Post by: Caissa on November 22, 2006, 02:23:45 PM
I have a vicious gag reflex. For that reason, I receive Nitrous Oxide for all of my dental procedures. And to think, it's covered by my healthcare plan.  :D
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Post by: deBeauxOs on November 22, 2006, 03:56:13 PM
Just came in from a long walk in the beautiful outdoors, with my coat jacket open!!!  Two days in a row of sunshine ...  8)
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 22, 2006, 04:17:22 PM
Sunny days here on the Quebec coast, with daytime highs of 5C and overnight lows ranging from -4C (tonight) to - 11C (Sunday). Quite pleasant.
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Post by: arborman on November 22, 2006, 05:37:46 PM
Quote from: Caissa
One of the rules of procrastination is that you should never "should" on yourself. Waste of energy. You seem to be using that energy to ensure a polished final product. Good luck with the presentation.


Yeah, one thing university taught me is how to procrastinate comfortably.

e.g.  I have a paper due in 12 hours, it will take me 8 hours to finish.  Therefore I have 3.5 hours to relax and do other things (leaving 1/2 hour for variables).  I suspect I was one of the least stressed students in history, and I had great grades.

Here, on the other hand, I just have too much to do - there is no relax time.  That said, I take it anyways, and am trying to find ways to reduce the load.
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Post by: skdadl on November 22, 2006, 07:23:05 PM
I am going to herd cats. Again.

I wonder whether there is any human food left. Drat. Wasn't paying attention to the time. Is supper necessary? I suppose it is. Such a bore.
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Post by: Herr Magoo on November 22, 2006, 07:36:54 PM
Where the Christ are those "entire meals in a pill" that we were supposed to have by, like, 1999?  Wait!  I know!  They're in the glove compartment of all the Hover Cars, right?  And all I have to do to get a Hover Car is call the dealership on my Video Phone.  

You'll need to fly your Jet Pack down to the Video Phone store, I think, and then all will be well.
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Post by: 'lance on November 22, 2006, 07:49:01 PM
One of my favourite commercials a few years ago (the advertiser? some financial-planning concern or other -- I never remember such things) featured Avery Brooks of "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" fame. Using the slightly staccato, slightly overwrought style with which he'd played Capt. Sisko, he led off with this increasingly anxious soliloquy along the lines of "So, this is the future. We were promised flying cars! Where is my flying car?!" It was priceless.
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Post by: arborman on November 23, 2006, 12:01:10 PM
Yay, the report is in.  Now I'm taking a day off.

Guilty parent - I took the little monkey to daycare anyways, so I have the house to myself, at least for the morning - I'll probably go pick him up in the afternoon so we can go to the park or something.

In the meantime, I sip coffee and will spend the next two hours in blissful non-productivity - probably building my space empire in a video game.   :wink:
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Post by: 'lance on November 23, 2006, 04:22:30 PM
Damn you, arborman! I have a course assignment which is now eight days late, and I'm coming to the limits of such leeway as the instructors are prepared to grant me. Nothing much is riding on it -- I'm taking the course for "professional development," not as a prerequisite to something else -- but it gravels my ass that it's been so bloody difficult to write. I haven't struggled so with an assignment since I was first in university, over twenty years ago -- and the hell of it is, I actually have a reasonable grasp on the subject to begin with.

Anyway. I'm always a little annoyed around USian thanksgiving, because my favourite USian websites are updated only slightly, if at all, for three or four days. But James Wolcott, at least, comes through (http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/blogs/wolcott/2006/11/parade_floats_a.html).
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Post by: fern hill on November 23, 2006, 05:05:16 PM
Debra gets her heart monitor taken off today. :yay: How are you feeling, Debra? Any more news?
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Post by: skdadl on November 23, 2006, 05:15:56 PM
I'll just bet that Debra is in a warm warm bath right now -- and all the itch is gone, yes, chick?   :)

'lance:

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Now, decades later, we have the cast of Spamalot going through their motions on this chill, pissy day in faux armor, performing a number from the show with all the esprit they can summon to the same mob of balloon lovers, proving that the cycles of minor humiliation pass from generation to generation as part of the larger wheel of life.


 :lol:

Damn. That is so good. I hate it when other people write that well.   :wink:
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Post by: Debra on November 23, 2006, 05:20:44 PM
I'm going to go have a shower after dinner and tea.

Itching has subsided somewhat since the pads came off. Left a nasty rash though. blah.

But YAY no more monitor.

Everyone here but me is sick as a dog. Could be a virus but I'm thinking it might have been some lunch meat they all ate.

Hope I don't get it if it's virus.
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Post by: 'lance on November 23, 2006, 06:08:04 PM
Glad to hear the nasty thing's gone, Debra, and all the best.

Quote from: skdadl
Damn. That is so good. I hate it when other people write that well.   :wink:


Likewise -- but what I really hate (for that reason) is the London Review of Books (http://www.breadnroses.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18837&start=0), damn their eyes.
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Post by: skdadl on November 23, 2006, 06:15:16 PM
Oy. I shall be reading that at 5 a.m. tomorrow, 'lance. Thank you very much ... for reinforcing my ever-present sense of narrative-accomplishment inferiority in the face of great thought and literature.

No, no! Don't apologize! It's good for me! It drives me on!   :wink:
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Post by: 'lance on November 23, 2006, 06:30:22 PM
Who's apologizing? Just the messenger, ma'am, just the messenger...
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Post by: fern hill on November 24, 2006, 01:00:06 PM
I just came back from the good hardware store, where they don't treat me like an idiot, with a new doorknob. The doorknob to my apartment is broken -- well, it was landlord-cheap -- and I'm not letting the pseudo-supt touch anything in my place after he broke my gas stove. So, I'm going to install it myself. (Back-up plan: sweetie is coming for dinner tonight.)
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Post by: Debra on November 24, 2006, 01:21:58 PM
What happened with the gas situation and the stove? all fixed?
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Post by: fern hill on November 24, 2006, 01:30:58 PM
Yes. But it was maddening. The gas guys red-tagged the stove and turned the gas off. It was supposed to have a new gas line put on by a certified gas tech and there was a card to be filled out by that person and mailed back to the gas co. I had talked to the office guy at the property management co. and thought he understoood. While I was at sweetie's though, the iji super bought and installed a new line. Thank dog he did not turn the gas back on. I went ballistic and it was another day before we got a proper gas guy to install the line and turn my gas back on.

I like the super, but he's incompetent.
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Post by: Debra on November 24, 2006, 01:53:13 PM
I can never understand the thought process of people who work with things that can kill you without the proper knowledge of how to do so.

Glad to hear it's all sorted though.

Good luck with your knob.  :wink:
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Post by: Caissa on November 24, 2006, 02:06:54 PM
I have just finished informing students of their awards from the Student Educational Opportunities Fund, distributing money for co-curricular activities.
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Post by: fern hill on November 24, 2006, 02:59:18 PM
Knob installed. Fiddly, but easy-peasy.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 24, 2006, 03:03:56 PM
Building more shelves, and bringing in firewood. I wish I were younger.  :age:
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Post by: Caissa on November 24, 2006, 03:13:44 PM
I could sell you some age credits :D
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Post by: skdadl on November 24, 2006, 04:45:54 PM
I think I need some of those, Caissa (sorry, Boom Boom).

I just got back from lunch a little while ago, and I am not feeling all that hot. I don't think there was anything wrong with the food, but I did, stupidly, drink coffee for too long at the end, as conversation went on longer than usual (this is a group that meets once a month), and on the way home, I realized that I had a bit of a buzz on. In my toes, even. Like, all over. It quite scared me. I was so relieved to make it indoors. 'Scuse me while I get a glass of something to stop the buzz.    :sick
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Post by: Debra on November 24, 2006, 04:48:10 PM
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Scuse me while I get a glass of something to stop the buzz.


Like a glass of wine?  :wink:

What did you have for lunch? Was it yummy?
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Post by: skdadl on November 24, 2006, 04:52:41 PM
It was ok. We met this month at a pub-style place on the Esplanade, which is not our usual, but one member of the group was caught in a heavy work day nearby, so we did the compromise. I had a curried chicken dish, which was ... ok. At our usual place (Kensington Kitchen), I would have had the falafel plate and I'd be feeling all perfumed inside right now. I also probably wouldn't have drunk that much coffee. I think I'm just loggy from the coffee. I wish I could burp.
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Post by: 'lance on November 24, 2006, 05:02:40 PM
I'm not sure I've been on the Esplanade since 1984, when I had (of all things) a telemarketing job there.

Me, I'm thinking of making coffee in hopes of catching some sort of buzz. I donated blood last night and then got up at 5:30 this a.m. (early site inspection), so I'm distinctly sluggish today and mostly wasting time looking out at the fine day. I think I should book early.
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Post by: brebis noire on November 24, 2006, 05:02:53 PM
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Everyone here but me is sick as a dog. Could be a virus but I'm thinking it might have been some lunch meat they all ate.

Hope I don't get it if it's virus.


It's a virus, and I just got it.  :shock: Amazing how fast it comes on (I knew it would hit, SO had it yesterday.) Am trying to deal with it very Zen-like, will now pretend I don't exist. Digestive tract is now completely empty, that should help. (where's the pukey smiley when you need it....)
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Post by: Debra on November 25, 2006, 06:26:52 PM
I just spent 3 hours compiling and editing a youtube video for my Day 4 post.

I think I found something I really enjoy.....now if I could only find a way to make it pay........
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Post by: skdadl on November 25, 2006, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: Debra

I think I found something I really enjoy.....now if I could only find a way to make it pay........


Yeah. That is the trick, Debra. Story of our lives.  

Keep the faith, chick.  :)
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Post by: Debra on November 25, 2006, 07:31:26 PM
Oh ya, the youngest two (well if Liam feels better) are going to be in the Santa parade with their school.

Dressed as Who's.  :santa2:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 25, 2006, 07:54:19 PM
Neat smiley, Debra! :santa2:
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Post by: deBeauxOs on November 26, 2006, 02:01:19 AM
I'm feeling guilty.  Yesterday (and the day before) was Buy Nothing Day, an idea launched by Adbusters years ago to offer an alternative or to counter the effect of rampant consumerism on the two worst (or best, for retail) shopping days of the year by by boycotting all purchasing opportunities.

On Saturday, I attended the St-Andrews Anglican church annual bazaar and I bought a number of items.  Granted, those were old things dragged out of people's attics or bottom drawers and donated to the event for the purpose of funding community projects.

Perhaps it should be Boycott New Stuff, Buy Up Old Junk Day instead?  :oops:

Oh, but the treasures I found.  A beautifully engraved tin and copper tea caddy.  A pink pig crafted from the boiled yarn of an old pink cable sweater.  Delightful original pen and ink drawings from an unknown artist - Betty McCaughey anyone? - depicting scenes such a flock of starlings scolding a voracious squirrel in their feeder.  A deep teal green enameled steel serving dish from Norway.   Vintage linen teatowels, softened by decades of laundering yet still hefty.

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Post by: lagatta on November 26, 2006, 08:17:03 AM
deBeauxOs, I should hope that La Journée sans achats does not apply to charitable church bazaars!

I just got up - late for me, but I slept really well (rare). I was at a small party for my friend who will be spending three months (our winter, Austral summer) in her native Argentina. We danced and sang - that is she and another qualified person sang and played guitar, I tried to sing.

Buy Nothing Day kind of bothers me, in that I really don't consume a lot of useless junk anyway, even when I have the cask. Yesterday, I bought one bottle of wine, for the party. But the day before, I bought fixings to make a venison tourtière and une tarte à l'oignon. Really I don't think that was a whirlwind of spending.
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Post by: skdadl on November 26, 2006, 08:32:27 AM
Quote from: lagatta
deBeauxOs, I should hope that La Journée sans achats does not apply to charitable church bazaars!



Indeed. I consider that progressive activism, in fact.

Like lagatta, I'm already fairly allergic to conspicuous consumption, although I confess that every once in a while I have a Libra moment and do something stupidly extravagant. I have no interest in the consumption fetish, which I agree is a major social and ecological problem in the West -- my problem is more that I have a very distant and unhappy relationship with money, which I don't take all that seriously except I recognize that I need some.

Money. Such a drag. Bummer, man.  :wink:
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 26, 2006, 08:44:36 AM
Quote from: skdadl
...Like lagatta, I'm already fairly allergic to conspicuous consumption, although I confess that every once in a while I have a Libra moment and do something stupidly extravagant.


Can I change my sign from Libra to something else... like Aquarius? ("this is the age of Aquarius....")
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 26, 2006, 08:50:28 AM
Just finished watching Amadeus (1984) and played loud through my stereo. Amazing. :clap:
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Post by: skdadl on November 26, 2006, 08:51:47 AM
A Mozart moment!

 :clap:  :clap:  :clap:
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Post by: Debra on November 26, 2006, 08:55:18 AM
this is the age of Aquarius... relive it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omij_EUL4W8)

images from the Hubble
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 26, 2006, 10:16:54 AM
One of my favourite recordings - I miss the 5th Dimension. Saw them on the old Ed Sullivan Show a few times, and elsewhere. Also love their "Up, Up and Away". The 5th were one of the most joyous, upbeat groups I've ever heard.
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Post by: skdadl on November 26, 2006, 10:36:26 AM
I know that the universe is objectively beautiful, and I am trying hard to train myself to remember that. For some reason I don't understand, real film of the cosmos is a panic trigger for me, but I was able to watch that, and it is beautiful. I watched especially because I was guessing how it would end, and I was not disappointed. That is one image I never tire of. Such a jewel we are.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 26, 2006, 10:55:17 AM
Debra - thanks for the Hubble link, and the music by the 5th. I have a new widescreen monitor, and just below the video image is a button, which, when clicked, blows up the video to fill the monitor screen. Awesome. I'm going to watch it again tonight in the dark. Did anyone besides me see an image of a baby in the cosmos, not far from the beginning of the video?
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Post by: Debra on November 26, 2006, 10:57:26 AM
yes! we must have been having the same flashback.  :wink:
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Post by: suzette on November 26, 2006, 08:17:30 PM
Quote from: brebis noire
(where's the pukey smiley when you need it....)


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Post by: Debra on November 26, 2006, 10:42:47 PM
actually we do have one, I found one that didn't disgust me quite as much.

It's beside the snowball thrower  :pukey:
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Post by: fern hill on November 26, 2006, 11:28:26 PM
Posting to get the pukey off TAT. It is less disgusting, but still. . .
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 27, 2006, 09:45:56 AM
Watching a story on CBC Newsworld. The US has sanctions on Iran, and because of this, Iranian aircraft can't get necessary aircraft parts for repair and maintenance, and many of their aircraft have crashed because of these problems. This morning a passenger craft crashed, killing all 36 aboard, all members of the Iran Revolutionary Guard.
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on November 27, 2006, 02:24:11 PM
I'm trying to work, I really am.  

But the baby is really moving right now, and while he's not big enough that others can feel him, *I* certainly can.  And he's tickling me!  Really.  I still have a ways to go, and I'm already at the point of distraction.  This does not bode well for my future productivity.  I guess I'll just do some mindless paperwork until he falls asleep again.
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Post by: fern hill on November 29, 2006, 08:53:22 AM
Not working. I haven't worked for three weeks. Freelancers know that the first week one catches up: laundry, cleaning, groceries, like that. Second week one reconnects with friends, goes out to a  movie. Third week, worry. I have one more outstanding invoice. Then nuthin. Zero cash flow.

Yeah, yeah, I've always survived these. There's always more work. Until some day, there isn't. When I was a callow youth, I saw old broads (and they were all old broads) hustling for freelance work in publishing. Sad, I thought then. Terrifying, I think now.
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Post by: lagatta on November 29, 2006, 09:04:38 AM
I suddenly have a load of work. I was in that state of sheer terror all this week. Not zero work, but just enough to pay groceries, nothing to pay bills or anything else.

I guess I'll have to kill myself when there aren't any more contracts. Oh well. (Don't worry b+r'rs, I don't mean now)...
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Post by: skdadl on November 29, 2006, 09:49:19 AM
We'll do it together, all the desperate editors. We shall commit group ritual suicide -- by poisoned paper-cuts, don't you think? And we shall all expire gracefully somewhere nice and historically literary, perhaps the roof-top bar of the Park Plaza.  

Gee. I am looking forward to that.
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Post by: fern hill on November 29, 2006, 10:25:30 AM
The Park Plaza! That brings back memories. (It's been fucked up for years, you know.) The Astro Turf. The ancient waiters. The wind! A pal had a divorce party that started there at noon. I don't know how many times we paid the bill, how many people came and went and came back again. I do remember one (not well-liked) fella walking the balustrade, us watching in horror and (some) anticipation. The party moved on to the Morrisey (now condos, I think).

Shit, I sound like a geezer.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on November 29, 2006, 01:38:10 PM
Quote from: skdadl
...We shall commit group ritual suicide -- by poisoned paper-cuts, don't you think? ...
Sounds drawn out and painful.  Couldn't one of you volunteer to smack the others in the head with a blunt object that represented the total weight of all the paper that you've processed over the years?  And the last one standing could drink hemlock or something.
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Post by: 'lance on November 29, 2006, 01:45:00 PM
Quote from: deBeauxOs
Sounds drawn out and painful.  Couldn't one of you volunteer to smack the others in the head with a blunt object that represented the total weight of all the paper that you've processed over the years?  


I've known clients who made me feel that impulse -- but given the weight of all the paper I've processed these ten (!) years, it'd amount to second-degree murder, at the very least.

For "processed," of course, read "wasted."
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Post by: lagatta on November 29, 2006, 02:12:05 PM
I've translated many things that I knew would never get read; they simply had to exist by law or regulation in the opposite official language. Haven't been doing that much recently though, fortunately.

I'm contemplating getting my hair cut a bit (a few inches) to make it easier to untangle. But it is hard to find cuts and stylists for very curly hair, almost kinky.

Gigi, where does your "whiter" sister get her hair cut? The pic of her hair looks like mine...
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Post by: skdadl on November 29, 2006, 04:08:57 PM
The weekly dental report:

I have two more (sort of) new teeth! I didn't realize she was gonna do this, but I'm eventually going to have all eight top fronts fixed up to look as though I had never done anything bad in my life.

Four down, four to go -- next week will be the fangs, which are, of course, my favourites. She says she will give me points if I really want them, which I do.    :twisted:
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Post by: Debra on November 29, 2006, 04:15:56 PM
:vampire:  I vant to drink your vine hahahaha

better not get them too pointy wouldn't want to scare the kitties.
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Post by: 'lance on November 29, 2006, 05:15:32 PM
Quote from: skdadl
She says she will give me points if I really want them, which I do.    :twisted:

Hmmm. Suddenly I've come over all funny-like.

Quote from: debra
better not get them too pointy wouldn't want to scare the kitties.


You may have hit on a way -- perhaps the only way -- to get cats to do what you want. Give them just the slightest suspicion that, past experience to the contrary, you're actually a bigger cat.
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Post by: Bacchus on November 29, 2006, 05:59:54 PM
What am I doing?

Curled up in a foetal position crying  :cry:
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Post by: Debra on November 29, 2006, 06:03:24 PM
what's wrong?

Can we help?
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Post by: peppermint on November 29, 2006, 06:17:42 PM
will e- hugs help?:grouphug   how about cookies?:cookie:  :cookie:
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Post by: Bacchus on November 29, 2006, 07:54:14 PM
*sigh* Just got unceremoniusly shown the door at work. They need to cut costs and finding ways to can people is the order of the day. So Im shaken, scared, shocked and a host of other 'S' words.

It may be the push needed to get me going on my consulting business but it could also just spell failure and woe if no one is interested in my admittedly specialized services
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Post by: fern hill on November 29, 2006, 07:59:08 PM
Bummer, Bacchus. Can we help? There are some experienced freelancers here *ahem*. What kind of specialized consulting? Can you say?
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Post by: skdadl on November 29, 2006, 07:59:59 PM
Bacchus, I send you hugs, big big hugs, and so much empathy.

You will be ok -- you know you will; we all know you will -- but it is a blow, I know. Give yourself some time, if you can.

Have they given you a decent settlement?
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Post by: lagatta on November 29, 2006, 08:09:25 PM
Bacchus, I'm so sorry. The pits. :(
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Post by: Debra on November 29, 2006, 08:23:52 PM
Oh man that sucks. :hug

Well fuck them.   :beam
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 29, 2006, 08:32:20 PM
More downsizing. Where does it ever end?  Time for a :grouphug
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Post by: Holly Stick on November 29, 2006, 08:33:19 PM
What a nasty shock.  It's their loss and hopefully it will be your gain.
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Post by: Bacchus on November 29, 2006, 08:41:40 PM
No settlement so I'll go to the ministry of labour over that one

I specialize in email delivery. That is I make sure your email gets delivered and take care of all abuse/privacy issues regarding your mail to customers. etc.
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Post by: fern hill on November 29, 2006, 10:02:41 PM
I'm going to bed. I love all of you. These are hard times and I'm glad I can come here. OK, I've probably had too much to drink. Speaking of my drinking problem, where's gunnar?
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Post by: Toedancer on November 29, 2006, 10:30:29 PM
These are hard times. Bacchus you will find something better. Maybe not right away, so something, but then something better after. Believe it.

I'm so glad I have all you guys!
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Post by: sparqui on November 29, 2006, 11:08:42 PM
I'm so sorry Bacchus. Having experienced the demise of our little but hopeful business this past year, I can empathize. Your specialty does seem very relevant so hopefully something much better will come along.
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Post by: k'in on November 29, 2006, 11:11:24 PM
Bacchus-that is a shock.  You are going to be OK, everything works out for the best.    :grouphug
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Post by: Bacchus on November 29, 2006, 11:29:43 PM
Thanks everyone, I am so glad I have this place!

Not nearly enough booze in me though, where is Gunnar?
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Post by: Gigi on November 29, 2006, 11:38:17 PM
Down-sizing is what finally kicked my ass into gear with my business, so maybe you will also get the inspiration.  If you decide to go that route, drop me a note and I will share the things I did right and the things I would have done differently in the process.

I hope this turns out to be a positive thing for you.
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Post by: Boom Boom on November 29, 2006, 11:39:01 PM
I could share a half bottle of gin with you, it's been sitting in my fridge for four years. :drunk
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Post by: Gigi on November 29, 2006, 11:41:20 PM
Quote from: lagatta
Gigi, where does your "whiter" sister get her hair cut? The pic of her hair looks like mine...


I can't find the exact pic in this thread, but odds are it was at Azan's here in Toronto.

We both have a very strict policy of anyone playing in our hair having a certain minimum of melanin (with a couple of noted exceptions).
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Post by: Bacchus on December 01, 2006, 01:07:27 PM
Quote from: Gigi
Down-sizing is what finally kicked my ass into gear with my business, so maybe you will also get the inspiration.  If you decide to go that route, drop me a note and I will share the things I did right and the things I would have done differently in the process.

I hope this turns out to be a positive thing for you.


Thanks Gigi, its very much appreciated!

Im still in a sort of shock but Im starting to recover. Mrs bacchus, who I thought would just collapse to peices, has been wonderful
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Post by: 'lance on December 01, 2006, 01:23:29 PM
Sorry to have missed this, and belated consolation, Bacchus. All the best. With us on your side, how can it go badly?

(... crickets, tumbleweed, awkward coughs...)

... well, anyway, hang in there.

Meanwhile...

Quote from: fern hill
Speaking of my drinking problem, where's gunnar?

Quote from: Bacchus
Not nearly enough booze in me though, where is Gunnar?


... sigh. Demoted from my old bartending job. Well, that was back in babbleon; much water (and beer, and single-malt...) under the bridge since then. I should have known there'd be no place for me in the new establishment. Lucky to be a bar porter, or hang around polishing glasses and swilling out the washing machine.

But I'll get back there, one day. Best watch your back, gunnar. You hear me? As Goddess is my witness, I'll never be thirsty again!
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Post by: Bacchus on December 01, 2006, 02:17:53 PM
Thanks lance. And truly, this place IS my sanctuary and healing spot. I cna laugh here, cry, and rant. Things I cant seem to quite do as easily elsewhere of late.
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Post by: chester on December 01, 2006, 02:28:18 PM
all the best bacchus, hopefully a year from now you will look back and think it was the best thing that could have happened to you.

Quote
I specialize in email delivery. That is I make sure your email gets delivered and take care of all abuse/privacy issues regarding your mail to customers. etc
sounds like an area that has lots of demand.

some brave people take such an opportunity and do something wild and crazy like sail off into the sunset or start a goat farm, what ever you end up doing let yourself consider all the possibilities.
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Post by: fern hill on December 04, 2006, 12:56:48 PM
I'm having one of those semi-agoraphobic days. Nothing much pressing to do, but a couple of errands, but I'm just a little reluctant to go out.
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Post by: chcmd on December 04, 2006, 01:06:06 PM
Sitting here looking out my window at the office, wishing for a teleporter so I don't have to go out on this horrible windy, sleety day to get home.
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Post by: fern hill on December 04, 2006, 01:17:53 PM
Hevvins! I missed this. 'lance, old bean, I would never demote you from your old job. I meant that gunnar usually talks about my drinking problem.

It's a little early, but I'll have a martinus, if you've got your shaker. Up, with a twist, please.

Quote from: 'lance
[quote="fern hill":3kh6a401]Speaking of my drinking problem, where's gunnar?

Quote from: Bacchus
Not nearly enough booze in me though, where is Gunnar?

... sigh. Demoted from my old bartending job. Well, that was back in babbleon; much water (and beer, and single-malt...) under the bridge since then. I should have known there'd be no place for me in the new establishment. Lucky to be a bar porter, or hang around polishing glasses and swilling out the washing machine.

But I'll get back there, one day. Best watch your back, gunnar. You hear me? As Goddess is my witness, I'll never be thirsty again![/quote:3kh6a401]
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Post by: 'lance on December 04, 2006, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: fern hill
Hevvins! I missed this. 'lance, old bean, I would never demote you from your old job. I meant that gunnar usually talks about my drinking problem.

It's a little early, but I'll have a martinus, if you've got your shaker. Up, with a twist, please.


Why soitainly, fern. Never without the old money-maker shaker...

(http://www.drellenrudolph.com/essay25(a).jpg)

... though in the circumstances, that'll be, uh, free.
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Post by: fern hill on December 04, 2006, 03:19:13 PM
Merci. Very handsome martinus you make, sir.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on December 04, 2006, 03:21:21 PM
Make mine a martina, then ....  :D
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Post by: 'lance on December 04, 2006, 03:26:52 PM
Comin' right up:

(http://www.outtraveler.com/images/mags/09/martina.jpg)
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Post by: deBeauxOs on December 04, 2006, 03:37:01 PM
'lance, one of the traits of a champeen bartender is knowing your patrons/matrons tastes.  You rock ....  8)
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Post by: 'lance on December 04, 2006, 03:46:52 PM
Why, shucks. 'Tweren't nuthin'.

(dirt-scuffing smiley)
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Post by: steffie on December 05, 2006, 07:48:00 AM
First off: hugs to Bacchus.  I know exactly how you feel, being underemployed at the moment and anxious about how I'm going to pay the mountain of bills.   :(  

Today I am facing a 1-1/2 hour drive (or more) to Sudbury to see a client.  The last time I made this drive was on Friday, when I drove home through that horrible white-out blizzard.  Scary!  And now I keep having visions of me being in an accident like those I witnessed on Friday.  So I pray to my angels that they will hold me and keep me safe.  I'm not ready to go just yet!  Still so much work to do.

It looks like it will be a sunny day, so hopefully the road conditions will be agreeable.  I just have to remember not to be goaded by agressive (reckless) drivers on the highway.
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Post by: skdadl on December 05, 2006, 06:45:25 PM
If it's Tuesday, skdadl must have spent the afternoon ... at the dentist.  

I now have my new fangs, plus pre-molars -- yes, she did four at once. It took about two hours, and as usual, I walked out feeling dizzy as hell. My dentist is a mad perfectionist.

Do I ever have some impressive-looking chompers, though. Fear my fangs!  :twisted:
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Post by: Debra on December 05, 2006, 06:46:37 PM
I do hope you remembered to say Fang You before you left!  :whis:
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Post by: skdadl on December 05, 2006, 06:53:10 PM
Heh. No -- I think she is doing this because she wants to get me feeling up again -- not that I've said anything to her about being down, but the woman is acute. Apparently it all is medically justifiable -- the enamel on aging teeth will develop hairline cracks, and while that doesn't mean the tooth is about to crack, it becomes an avenue for decay, so. But I think she is pursuing the full mouthlift as intensely as she is because that is the way she has to contribute a lift -- I do perceive that, and I appreciate it.
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Post by: Debra on December 05, 2006, 06:59:29 PM
There is an article in our paper today. Our health unit director of dentistry addressed the Board of Health saying that he is appalled at the way dentistry is handled in the province.

Apparently it was originally to be handled under the Health Act but there weren't enough practitioners at the time. 30% of the province is without dental benefits and he wants to see the province rectify that. Also our hospital and apparently others in an effort to cut back on costs no longer allow dentists to book operating time. So children aren't getting needed procedures done and adults who need to be put under face the same problem.
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Post by: skdadl on December 05, 2006, 07:09:11 PM
Oh, I agree. Dental health is so central to good health, and yet we leave so much of that care to private plans -- which, of course, many people don't have -- until people are in emergency situations. Stupid stupid stupid, and also, of course, cruel and oppressive.

I have never done this, but I've often been told that it is worth it, for people who don't have coverage, to get themselves to the nearest school of dentistry (does Trent have one?) and volunteer. The students work under the supervision of their professors, so they will be safe if maybe a bit hesitant, but they might also be a bit more up to date than are many practising dentists.
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Post by: lagatta on December 05, 2006, 07:09:21 PM
It is criminal that dental work is not covered under public health care. :(
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Post by: Toedancer on December 05, 2006, 07:10:26 PM
My mom is being under-treated for her oncoming (slam) dementia.
She feels as if no one is listening to her. She is 80, why isn't anyone listening to her? She's alone and I know that complicates matters, but I am starting to do my slow perculate anger thing. Gawd help Markham when I get there.
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Post by: skdadl on December 05, 2006, 07:12:19 PM
Quote from: Toedancer
She is 80, why isn't anyone listening to her?


Because the deputy ministers still expect to get away with leaving that to you, for free, for as long as they can.

They do this on purpose.

What is at Markham, Toedancer?
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Post by: Toedancer on December 05, 2006, 07:24:57 PM
Markham, shit let's see. Okay there is Finch/Yonge. Then north is Thornhill (which is wee) then north is Markham. Hugely upper class Liberal voters, paying thru the nose enclave. She's in subsidized housing, a wee bungalow since her 2nd husband died. It's adorable, she's kept it up for years and now suddenly she's very very scared.

ETA sorry that's not what you asked. I don't know.
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Post by: jrootham on December 05, 2006, 09:38:14 PM
Well, just to be upfront, this is thread drift.

Between Finch and Steeles it is all Toronto.  Thornhill is north of that but if you keep going north you find Richmond Hill, not Markham.  To find that version of Markham you have to hang a right, until you get to Markham Rd. (coincidence?  I think not!).

On the other hand (besides 4 fingers and a thumb) when you get to Steeles and Yonge on the left is Vaughan and on the right is Markham.  It's all pretty much paved over now.  When I was on training runs from Thornlea we ran down a dirt road that was known as the 3rd line.  It's now a 6 lane expressway called Leslie St.
Title: speaking of thread drift and the occasional highball .....
Post by: Croghan27 on December 05, 2006, 10:33:49 PM
The end of Prohibition in the US....

Quote
The Twenty-first Amendment was proposed by the United States Congress on February 20, 1933 and was fully ratified on December 5, 1933.


hava stiff one, or a short one, or a tall one, or coolie, or a fine vintage or quaff a cask .....not for Edgar J., not even for Elliot Ness  maybe for a bunch of newly made Canadian millionairs. but really

Do it just because YOU CAN.

croghan27
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Post by: fern hill on December 06, 2006, 05:17:59 PM
I'm playing with sweetie's new computer, Intel Mac. Then I've got a 'do' to do. Old friend is celebrating 10 years in business.
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Post by: 'lance on December 06, 2006, 06:22:32 PM
I'm slacking off a bit -- planning to leave early. Ostensibly to study for an exam, but the real reason is to celebrate...

... the end of a project I started, in Edmonton, seven years and two months ago, almost to the day.

Admittedly I finished my work back in June, and stuff in the last couple of days has just been formalities. But damn, it feels good.
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Post by: Debra on December 06, 2006, 08:04:38 PM
:arr!:
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Post by: sparqui on December 06, 2006, 08:49:31 PM
Congrats 'lance!!!

(I have a few 'projects' like that, pushing 10 years, that I hope to put to rest in 2007.)
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Post by: lagatta on December 06, 2006, 11:10:53 PM
Congrats, lance! Master's or doc?

Fern, I've played with an IntelMac too - the friend who sold me his PowerMac upgraded to an IntelMac. He is one of those people who wants la fine pointe in ordis - he mostly works as a conference interpreter, so he doesn't really need such a hi-tech beast.

Usually when I work on more powerful computers at clients' offices, they are PCs. I can work on a PC but feel so much more at home on a Mac...
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Post by: 'lance on December 06, 2006, 11:36:11 PM
Quote from: lagatta
Congrats, lance! Master's or doc?


Hee! I wish. No, the exam has nothing to do with the project (it's just for a web-based course I'm taking from UBC). The project was decommissioning, and cleaning up, a derelict industrial site. (You around, kuri? It was on 75th Street, if you know that area).

I wasn't there, or working on it, all that time, but I was there every year, sometimes for weeks at a time, in all seasons, in all kinds of weather. I got to know the Avis people at the airport, and the bar and restaurant staff at one particular hotel by sight. I must have hired ten different contractors or drilling companies over the years, dragged in at least fifteen other people from my company, used four or five different analytical labs, wrote hundreds of pages of reports  but only after collecting (or causing to be collected) thousands of soil and water samples...

... and probably ended up spending (or overseeing the spending of) about $2 million of the client's money. And that's not counting getting rid of the asbestos insulation, which I (thankfully) had nothing to do with, and which must have been at least another half-million, probably more.

But I don't feel too guilty about that -- this being a 120-acre site in a growth area, they sold it (according to rumour) for somewhere between $15 million and $20 million. Do this, they said, and send us the bills -- and damme, we did it.
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Post by: lagatta on December 07, 2006, 12:01:42 AM
Well, that is great. So many more that have to be reclaimed.

As for me, I'm back from 6 hours meetings for my housing co-op: first a last board meeting, then a general meeting. I'm nursing a glass of cheap but decent Argentinean wine, with a hunk of spinach sformato I'd made (like a crustless quiche - goat ricotta, spinach, etc.)
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Post by: kuri on December 07, 2006, 10:15:10 AM
Today, I'll be attending a press conference (http://www.electlindaduncan.ca/ennews.html). It's the first time I've been to something like that. I was actually invited as a blogger (all the local bloggers were invited along with the traditional media). I'm actually a bit nervous.

Quote from: lance
The project was decommissioning, and cleaning up, a derelict industrial site. (You around, kuri? It was on 75th Street, if you know that area).


What avenue? There's a lot of derelict industrial sites that are being pushed out of the city to the outskirts and the central areas are becoming more desireable for housing, especially on the south side.
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Post by: skdadl on December 07, 2006, 10:24:31 AM
Congratulations, 'lance.

It is so wonderful to read about good successes -- mostly unusual, but really quite wonderful when they happen. It gives all the rest of us a little faith, y'know?   :flowers

kuri, I just read your last blogpost -- terrific. Have a good adventure today.
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Post by: sparqui on December 07, 2006, 01:57:22 PM
I'm printing all sorts of government policy/guidelines related to communications planning and strategies for an upcoming exam for a job I've been referred to. I HATE exams and suck at them.

I'm also fretting about my older cat Smoke who seems weaker than usual and out of sorts. I hope its just my over-active imagination playing tricks on me :-(
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Post by: Debra on December 07, 2006, 05:53:33 PM
Good thoughts for Smoke.  :cat

I've got to leave in about an hour for the sleep study in Oshawa. I get kicked out of there at 7am and don't get picked up till after 8.

Which means I have to stroll a neighbourhood I'm completely unfamiliar with to find a coffee shop to wait in.

blah... I DON"T WANT TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: fern hill on December 07, 2006, 05:58:07 PM
Cruise the nabe tonight on your way in, Debra. And don't forget :tbwave:
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Post by: 'lance on December 07, 2006, 06:01:39 PM
Pity sparqui couldn't lend you Smoke for a little while, for mutual comfort. All the best to both.
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Post by: sparqui on December 07, 2006, 06:02:28 PM
Thanks for the positive thoughts Debra. And good luck to you with the sleep lab!
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Post by: skdadl on December 07, 2006, 06:50:34 PM
sparqui, I'll think of you and Smoke as I drop off tonight, and hope that this is a passing thing.  :hug

Debra, you know that my thoughts are with you. No matter how important or helpful any of these tests is, it is the hardest thing for the spirit, I think, to be medicalized -- it is just so hard on us, always. Think of us and of what you have created here tomorrow.   :hug
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Post by: sparqui on December 07, 2006, 09:49:36 PM
Thanks for your kind thoughts skdadl! Both Smoke and I appreciate it.
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Post by: lagatta on December 07, 2006, 09:59:04 PM
You are welcome! Here is a basket of kittens (http://www.dailykitten.com/archives/659-panda-tippy-kittyhawk-sugarfoot-tony-and-spot.html) for you and me, and of course for skdadl.

I wish there were a thingamajig to enlarge the pic!
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Post by: anne cameron on December 08, 2006, 01:20:31 AM
oh, yummy yummy, a smorgy-borgy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: skdadl on December 08, 2006, 08:18:40 AM
anne, you cannibal you!   :wink:

The tabbies among those kittens look just like my Phillie and his sister Ollie. Well -- Phillie and Ollie are quite a bit bigger now.
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Post by: Debra on December 08, 2006, 09:18:52 AM
I"m back....woohoo home!!

I must shower soon full of sticky glue they used to keep the electrodes on.

Almost strangled myself last night with all the wires.  :shock:
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Post by: steffie on December 08, 2006, 09:25:07 AM
welcome back, Debra!!   :hug
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Post by: chcmd on December 08, 2006, 09:38:09 AM
Are they all done torturing you now?  Or is there more to come?
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Post by: 'lance on December 08, 2006, 09:42:10 AM
Welcome back, Debra!
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Post by: Debra on December 08, 2006, 09:44:49 AM
Well I go for an ultrasound on the 11th.

Then it's all about results and outcomes. *need a cowering with fear smilie*
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Post by: chcmd on December 08, 2006, 09:50:38 AM
Hang in there!  Positive vibes coming your way . . . catch!
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on December 08, 2006, 09:54:20 AM
Welcome home, Debra.

I'm hoping there will be a positive end to this for you soon.
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Post by: Bacchus on December 08, 2006, 03:02:44 PM
I hope for a positive result for all of us!!  Smoke especially of course

:rub:
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Post by: fern hill on December 08, 2006, 03:39:11 PM
I just received a notice that my building has been sold to a management company with a cutesy-poo name. So, I don't know which gang of fucking yuppies bought it, but I'm hoping it's not the one with Reno Boy in it.

:knockwood:
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Post by: sparqui on December 08, 2006, 04:50:55 PM
Welcome back Debra. I too hope there is positive news at the end of this ordeal.

And thanks for all your kind thoughts. I think Smoke seems better today (keeping fingers crossed).

I'm sorry the building was sold fern -- that's stressful.

ETA: That's a really CUTE emoticon Bacchus :-)
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Post by: Debra on December 08, 2006, 04:54:00 PM
If it is Reno Boy send him some nice christmas exlax...er I mean chocolate.  :wink:
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Post by: skdadl on December 08, 2006, 05:32:59 PM
I'm really sorry to hear that, fern hill.

It is so wrong that people -- especially people like you, who have lived where you do for so long -- should be prey to such whims of the traders.

We gotta do something serious about housing.
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Post by: fern hill on December 08, 2006, 05:41:59 PM
Yeah, well, housing. I'm with the Native people here. It just seems weird to own a piece of the planet. Owning stories though makes perfect sense.
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Post by: lagatta on December 08, 2006, 05:51:27 PM
Indeed. Mother Earth and Red Vienna:

http://www.wien.gv.at/english/housing/index.htm (http://www.wien.gv.at/english/housing/index.htm)

http://www.wien.gv.at/english/history/h ... vhisrv.htm (http://www.wien.gv.at/english/history/history/vhisrv.htm)

fern, you must remember the film "Julia" about Lilian Hellman and a heroic friend, with the scene where the Viennese workers defend their social housing against the fascists...
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Post by: fern hill on December 08, 2006, 05:53:17 PM
Yes, lagatta. I think I cried all the way through that film.
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Post by: sparqui on December 08, 2006, 05:53:41 PM
Quote from: fern hill
It just seems weird to own a piece of the planet. Owning stories though makes perfect sense.


^^^^That's beautiful!

I never had the urge to own property and found the whole concept somewhat troublesome. But I have to say, these past few decades have made it harder and harder to be a tennant -- I find it depressing that so much more consideration and political clout is given to property owners.
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Post by: Debra on December 08, 2006, 06:05:13 PM
I've always wanted to own because just to name 3 reasons;

Tenants are given no political power

You can't renovate the place to suit your needs...some places don't even want you to paint or garden or have pets or hang feeders.

You are at the mercy of someone who may decide to sell the place (as our landlord did recently) and then you are at the mercy of the rules and whims of a new landlord who may in fact kick you out saying that they are moving in when in fact they just change a few things and jack the rent for new tenants.

(fortunately our new landlord isn't too bad.)
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Post by: anne cameron on December 08, 2006, 06:11:47 PM
Well, I don't think I "own" any part of the earth.  It'll be here long after I'm gone and forgotten.  What I have bought is the tenuous right not to be harrassed by some arstle who thinks he or she has the right to decide if I should or should not have a turtle in a tank.  Of course, I still have to bribe the tax collectors.   It's pay pay pay however you do it.  "Owning" just gives you the illusion that you are in any way at all a "free" holder.

so I paid and I continue to pay but Norma the turtle, Corby the crow, three dogs and two cats and I are installed on a somewhat permanent basis, or as permanent as anything can be when you consider we could all keel over two minutes from now.
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Post by: lagatta on December 08, 2006, 06:12:24 PM
Debra, I think it depends on where you live. I live in a large city, and cannot reasonably expect to afford property as a single person with most precarious employment.

I do think we need more social housing (I don't mean big high-rises!!!!) in smaller towns and villages. And obviously, tenants' rights to repaint, and above all garden, with small allotments.

As for banning pets, I think people know how I feel about that...
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Post by: Debra on December 08, 2006, 06:17:10 PM
I don't live in a big city and I and most people here can't afford to own. Most rental property here in town is owned by I'd say roughly 20 people.
disgusting really.

City property prices are ridiculous.

One thing about Ontario tenant law is that the landlord has the right to say you can't have pets but you have the right to have pets regardless of the lease you sign.  Good for pet owners but very dumb laws.
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Post by: 'lance on December 08, 2006, 06:34:28 PM
As for management companies -- I've had at least ten landlords over the years, and the only halfway decent experiences (by rental standards, of course) have been with management companies. (The family I rented a little suite from when first in Vancouver were more than decent, but the suite itself was an 8' by 8' box with a 3' by 4' kitchen off it, and -- being on the ground floor -- bars on the windows. In case of fire, I'd have fried).

Landlords who own the place themselves generally won't spend a dime on it, except maybe at gunpoint (which I've never yet tried and don't plan to. At least, I don't think I plan to... hmmm...). In one place, they had an unofficial policy of putting a deadbolt lock on your door only after your suite had been broken into.

After we had a break-in -- just a bicycle stolen, thankfully, and it was insured -- the landlord started installing a deadbolt one day as I was going out. I made some remark about the previous (broken) lock, and he said "oh yes, those are poor-quality. They don't even sell them in hardware stores nowadays."

My mind was so boggled by this I didn't think of the obvious reply -- "then why'd you leave it on the door in the first place, ASSHOLE?!" -- until I was a few blocks down the street.

This was in Victoria, where because of my work I was hanging out with some student activist types. Round about this time I began adopting their habit of referring to landlords as "landscum."

Then there was the Toronto landlord who -- it eventually emerged -- also owned a private nursing home, in fact one of the very firetrap pest-holes about which the Star used to print exposé series every five or six years (do they still do that?). That tells you just about all you need to know about that landlord, and for that matter about the basement suite he rented us.

(Though in one of those amusing historical reversals, while my roommate and I were (are) lily-white and middle-class, the landlord was a black guy, an immigrant from the Caribbean).
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Post by: kuri on December 09, 2006, 12:45:59 AM
I had the (second) worst rental experience of my life with a management company in Edmonton. However, I later found out that this company does almost entirely office buildings and just had two apartment buildings "on the side". I wrote about that here (http://kurichina.livejournal.com/128762.html). The worst rental experience involved a psycho roommate, but really had nothing to do with the rental arrangments. I had my best rental experience in basement suites rented out by people who owned and lived in the home in question. Since they lived there, too, they tended to take maintenance stuff pretty seriously.

I feel very lucky that I was able to buy a house. Leopold and I got this one just before prices started shooting up a across the city. And while no one was inclined to loan us very much, we had Leopold's inheritance to pay over half down so our payments are really low. I feel weird saying that makes us lucky, because obviously it would be better to still have Leopold's dad around.

Anyway, I've missed something here - I must say this thread grows so quickly that I can't keep up with it - so I want to wish Debra good luck with her health, too, even though I don't know what the issue is.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on December 09, 2006, 04:59:45 PM
Quote from: anne cameron
... "Owning" just gives you the illusion that you are in any way at all a "free" holder. ... so I paid and I continue to pay but Norma the turtle, Corby the crow, three dogs and two cats and I are installed on a somewhat permanent basis, ...
 :shock: ... any chance that some members of your menagerie could help subsidize your grandiose lifestyle by getting a paid job?  :wink:
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Post by: 'lance on December 09, 2006, 05:20:05 PM
Hmmm. Well, obviously dogs are acquainted with work. A turtle might be persuaded to pitch in, as long as you're realllly patient about the results.   I'd as soon make a deal with a demon as with a crow -- obviously crows aren't evil as such, but well known as tricksters.

But cats? Whenever they see anybody working, they immediately assume it's for their benefit. The hell of it is, they're generally right. When we adopted our two, it took them a good thirty seconds to become accustomed to the lifestyle they've lived ever since.
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Post by: skdadl on December 09, 2006, 05:28:37 PM
Cats are smart. They all read the bit in the Bible about the lilies of the field  and recognized the wisdom right away.

Hard to fault them, yes?
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Post by: 'lance on December 09, 2006, 05:30:53 PM
Yes, but -- damn, don't tell me such things. I don't need more sources of anxiety. If they've found a way to turn those onion-skin pages without fingers or opposable thumbs, we're all hooped, but good.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 09, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
Eh, eh, eh, take it easy on Corby and her rellies, okay?  It ain't her fault.  She's doing okay for a gibble.  One eye, one leg, and she now has TWO women trotting around making sure she passes the winter in some degree of well fed comfort.

Juanita brought back my nail brush.  Corby came in the house looking for treats, the flew out without cawing goodbye.  After which I couldn't find the nail brush I keep by the kitche sink for scrubbing spuds and veggies.  Looked high and low.  Finally broke down and got another one.  The other day Juanita came by for tea and handed me the brush , asking "is this yours?".  It was very dirty but yes, it was the same one.  Now we're looking for Juanita's big tablespoon she kept on the porch to use as a trowel in her potted plants.  Corby traded the nail brush for the spoon....

She wants one of the hanging diddlybobs on the small wind chime.  She grabs onto it with her beak, then hangs, tug , tug, tugging...she's already swiped the crystal which used to be part of the chime and which caught the sunlight quite prettily.

Get a job?  This bunch?  They're such useless mooches a person could be forgiven for thinking they were politicians.  The only one of them who really DOES anything is Lace, the wall eyed boxer and her skills seem to begin and end with snoring and farting.  She could probably be prime minister.
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Post by: 'lance on December 10, 2006, 10:56:50 AM
Quote from: anne cameron
Eh, eh, eh, take it easy on Corby and her rellies, okay?  It ain't her fault.  She's doing okay for a gibble.  One eye, one leg, and she now has TWO women trotting around making sure she passes the winter in some degree of well fed comfortr.


Yabbut... I don't think I was being hard on the bird, altogether. Just sly, is all -- can you deny it? She's persuaded two people to wait on her wing and foot; she's able to borrow your silverwear and (given time) crystals despite physical infirmities; and you're telling us this isn't a crow worth keeping an eye on?
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Post by: anne cameron on December 10, 2006, 11:31:37 AM
I take some of the responsibility for that.  During good weather I leave my doors open and Corby comes in and out as she pleases, eats from the cat bowl, drinks from the water bowl.  The one downside is she craps in the house.  Small ones, but... and crows are very sociable, but she is only marginally accepted by the wild rellies so she gets lonely, and she sits near my chair in my work room and "talks" to me.  Upside, I'm learning crow, downside...I think she reads the screen...and I think she's very in to B'n'R...and we keep having discussions about politics and politicians and... I think maybe Corby thinks "interest" is in some way linked to approval and she's demonstrating the swipe'em blind opportunistic tendencies exhibited by politicians, especially cabinet ministers.

Look at the Tswassen treaty situation.  A chunk of land the wheelers, dealers and developers couldn't get out of the ALR to use for container storage and an extension of Roberts Bank superport is just sitting there, home to ducks, some shorebirds, and gulls, and nobody is "using" it and they'll never get it out of the ALR so ... WOW, I've got an idea, we'll go through the motions of signing a treaty with the Tswassens, and as part of the settlement we'll GIVE them the land...(it's theirs anyway, but...), and THEN they'll have to let it out of the ALR and..hey, those guys need jobs and some start to self reliance, we'll tell'em...YEAH!  Great idea!  We'll have our container storage and a bunch more developmental stuff inside of five years, bring out the whine and cheese and let's party...

That's the kind of thing has led to Corby the one-eyed one-legged crow swiping nail brushes and shiny tablespoons.  And crapping where she visits.

Norma the turtle on the other hand, stays in her tank, keeps her own council, and watches everything.  Some people have watch dogs.  Not everyone has a watch turtle.  She's heading on toward thirty years old, still a mere young'un.  I take very good care of her, she is, after all, my daughter's inheritance.
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Post by: skdadl on December 11, 2006, 07:09:38 AM
It is 7.10 a.m. and I have four cigarettes left. I am pacing m'self.
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Post by: Debra on December 11, 2006, 07:22:42 AM
:pacing:  :Smoker
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Post by: fern hill on December 11, 2006, 08:14:05 AM
Is today results day, Debra?
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Post by: Debra on December 11, 2006, 08:17:45 AM
nope today is pelvic ultrasound. Water water everywhere........

19th is results for most of the tests.

I'll have to see the gyn for todays results.
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Post by: skdadl on December 12, 2006, 09:25:31 AM
I am preparing to see one of the Scottish cousins for lunch, so I just thought I'd say Hail and farewell and it has been an honour to know you all ...

Actually, of all the cousins, she is probably the easiest to see, the least likely to force lugubrious conversations, but she has set this visit up for Thorfinn's birthday (he would be 77 today), so I wish it weren't happening, but there you go.

Ave atque vale. We who are about to die salute you, and all that jazz.
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Post by: Debra on December 12, 2006, 09:28:49 AM
:hug
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Post by: skdadl on December 12, 2006, 09:32:49 AM
Right back atcha, Debra.  :hug

I hope yesterday was ... well, bearable. I see that you bore it, anyway. It would be boring, too, wouldn't it, if it wasn't utterly terrifying at the same time. Not to mention bloody uncomfortable.
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Post by: Toedancer on December 12, 2006, 09:57:29 AM
I had that test last summer in your fair city Debra. My gyn was a very efficient and cheerful East Indian woman.

Why did I have to go to your city? Because there are NO female gyns whatsoever in Peterborough, none, zero, zip, nada. But I insisted and was directed there and it was a bloody good thing.

Good Luck!
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Post by: Debra on December 12, 2006, 10:01:13 AM
Dr. Bhatia.

She's my doc too.
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Post by: sparqui on December 12, 2006, 12:30:36 PM
Oh my, what a small world!

Here's hoping everyone has a decent day :-)
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Post by: lagatta on December 12, 2006, 12:50:46 PM
It is beautiful here (sunny, no snow, slightly above freezing, thoroughly cyclable). I've finished a job, now must bill.

Then I got some very sad news - the 55-year old brother of an old friend of mine who is almost exactly the same age (perhaps he is 54, or 56, in any case he is a bit older than I am) - had suddenly dropped dead of a heart attack at a Christmas office party (he was a civil servant; they both lived in Québec City).

My friend also had a heart attack, it happened a couple of years ago and he had a bypass of some kind. So some weakness must run in the family; we have told our friend (who I've known for over 30 years) to be careful. He has to make the funeral arrangements - I think their parents are both dead. :(

I sent my friend an e-mail but will send him a card as well. I don't want to phone him right now as he will be very busy (he is a teacher, and it is end of term), but will over the holidays. :(  :cry:
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Post by: sparqui on December 12, 2006, 01:17:54 PM
I'm so sorry lagatta.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 12, 2006, 01:44:09 PM
What I'm doing is getting ready for the hurricane-force winds we've been told to expect.  RIght now the sun is shining, the snow on the mountains is gleaming, there are scarves of mist in the gulleys and ravines, swathing the very female-looking landscape in the dance of more-than-seven-veils but we've been warned we're due for another storm to rival the one in November.  The one we had yesterday hit the rest of the Island a solid thump but we didn't get hit, just a stiff breeze, but I've been told Campbell River is already awash...we're fine here so far...but when Big Gertrude Hanson starts having her tantrum I'll be shutting down the computer because the last "surge" when the power went out toasted the innards of my batterybox thingy (better it than the computer) and I had to fork out one hundred fifty for a replacement, which was a bit of a kick in the teeth...we've got a lot of trees here but none of them are money trees, worse luck.

I have the oil lamps ready, the campstove where I can get at it if I need it and I'm just back from making my donation to the food bank and towards the community Xmas dinner.  I went last year and it was WAY better than doing the whole megulla at home!  It was like Xmas dinner is "supposed" to be, lots of people, smiling and cheerful and friendly and food until you could hardly believe it.  I'm hoping to take the grrrfriends with me, they enjoy the village get-together meals and they're very good about helping.  Last year they cleared the tables, helped with the dishes, even helped stack chairs and foldable tables out of the way afterward.  The old Scots work ethic thing...I want them to be used to the idea of participating and helping, if you go at it with the right frame of mind it becomes part of the fun of the experience and not a "job" or "chore" or "work" at all.

So that's what I'm doing.  This will be the third of fourth "winter storm" we've had and it's still autumn!!
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Post by: 'lance on December 12, 2006, 02:50:01 PM
I ab sig doday, with a code in my node. Grumph.
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Post by: Debra on December 12, 2006, 03:25:24 PM
that sucks.  :hangover

Hot toddy, that's the cure!  :coffee2
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Post by: Debra on December 12, 2006, 03:26:13 PM
Very sad situation Lagatta.

 :(
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Post by: Bacchus on December 12, 2006, 03:58:04 PM
*sigh* death death is all around. A friend of mine has just died at 41 of a massive heart attack which left her lingering then gone on life support.

Im very sorry to hear of your Lagatta. I think the hardest part is taking care of the arrangements. My friends brother (who is a closer friend of mine) had to do all the arrangements and balance what she wanted with what the parents wanted as well

Not a fun tightrope
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Post by: fern hill on December 12, 2006, 04:02:16 PM
Oh, lagatta, I'm sorry to hear that. Cuts close to home, as you know.  :(
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Post by: skdadl on December 12, 2006, 04:03:28 PM
What a shock for his family, lagatta, especially your friend, his brother. It stops the mind sometimes, the way life can change so totally in a moment.

I don't know whether you've read Joan Didion's memoir of the first year after her husband died very suddenly, arm raised, in the middle of a sentence, The Year of Magical Thinking. She was in double shock, since she was at the same time nursing her daughter through a long debilitating illness that seemed to be cured at one point but then took hold again fatally, a year and a half after the husband/father's death. So Didion had both to cope with, the fast and the slow, and both at the same time. It is a helpful book to reflect on, although there are no answers, of course.

My lunch was ok, although I see more and more the logic of simply retiring for a long time from most social obligations. I wonder when they will stop seeming strange to me. I heard some good news, of course, but the sense of disconnect is profound, plus, of course, the sense of failing others.
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Post by: lagatta on December 12, 2006, 04:09:46 PM
skdadl, I know how you feel (and working at home is conducive to that), but it is dangerous psychologically to isolate oneself.  

Thanks all,  for the thoughts about my friend and his family. I'm quite concerned about him, actually, because of his own heart problems.

I had a great little bicycle ride - makes one feel rather better, eh? Tomorrow, if it doesn't rain too much and I don't have a sudden rush job, I'll have a longer one, as it is supposed to get warmer.
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Post by: Toedancer on December 12, 2006, 04:24:52 PM
My thoughts are with you dealing with friends and their families and of course your own loss. So sudden.
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Post by: 'lance on December 12, 2006, 04:30:10 PM
Yes, sorry about this lagatta (and to have missed it before).
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Post by: k'in on December 12, 2006, 04:39:42 PM
Sorry to hear about your friend's brother lagatta.  So many people seem to have heart attacks and strokes out of the blue, often at such a young age.  Take care of your friend.
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Post by: lagatta on December 12, 2006, 06:46:16 PM
My friend appreciated my message. I'll send him a card (a wee watercolour) when I have a moment. The sudden death will make Christmas very hard for him and the family, as they will feel guilty to party. Though in a way I'm glad his brother died enjoying himself.

Once, when one of my closest friends (in the same circle) died in 1996 at about the age I am now, some co-workers couldn't fathom why I was so upset about a friend, as opposed to a Significant Other or family member. The friends I've known since I was 18 to 20 are certainly as much of my family as most blood family, and there are only a few blood relatives to whom I'm as close.

Friend in Québec City and I had been writing back and forth about Pinochet, as we occupied the Chilean consulate here in the wake of the coup, and strung a huge banner from the windows...

I knew this friend's brother, of course, but we weren't close, though I always found him très sympa.  I'm mostly concerned about my friend, who was seriously ill for months after his heart attack and double? triple? pontage...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 12, 2006, 08:02:42 PM
I'm glad you managed to touch base with your friend lagatta.

Bacchus, I'm sorry that you lost a friend suddenly as well.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 12, 2006, 08:45:04 PM
Wow what a few days, the dion flounce (hey sounds lke a dance), arborman robbery, chester truck stolen, lagatta and bacchus friends died.  :cry:

And now I'm walking around with a stupid spiral notebook attached to my sweater. I can't seem to unravel the dam thing to separate from my sleeve. This pales in comparison to youse guys, but I'm left handed WAAAH! and my right hand can't do such finicky work. And husband's not home to help, dog is jumping up to bite my sleeve and I hit her in the head with the spiral notebook. I'm going to go find the Scissors!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 12, 2006, 08:52:27 PM
:rotfl: Some things could happen only to you, Toe.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 12, 2006, 09:02:42 PM
TD and Mr Bean have you ever seen them both in the same room? Hmmmm
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 13, 2006, 08:44:25 AM
I'm waiting for the courier. Two projects on their way. Yay! Apparently, I will work in this town again. And they're big and rush-rush, so, gee, I'd love to come to your bun-fest, but I'm under the gun here. . .
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 13, 2006, 03:42:26 PM
Once again, have survived dentist, but this week was not for aesthetics. Lower left face = totally frozen, and as usual, I am dizzy. When I try to light a cigarette, I make mouth music.

Dentist is a most interesting person, always has been. She contributes to a farm that is a donkey-rescue organization. She goes out there on weekends and helps to care for the donkeys. So I heard a lot about donkeys.  She will take me sometime if I want to go, which I might.
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Post by: sparqui on December 13, 2006, 03:54:21 PM
It's not often you read: donkey-rescue organization  :D
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Post by: skdadl on December 13, 2006, 03:55:29 PM
It was news to me too, sparqui, but isn't it a nice thought? Apparently there are donkeys in need of rescue.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 13, 2006, 03:55:43 PM
A project I was working on took a Gémeaux award (francophone equivalent of the Gemini awards). Guess that can go on a C.V. - funny, this autumn has been really slow, and I'm broke (have enough to pay rent and bills, and just barely)...

That of course is not counting the book I am translating, but that can take a long time to get paid...

Once again I was able to cycle chez les chats I'm feeding in the absence of their humans. Glad, because the walk, while necessary if I can't get any other exercise, takes more time and I've been busy billing something that involved about 50 tiny wee texts and a couple of slightly longer ones...

Looking forward to getting my hair cut.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 13, 2006, 04:08:29 PM
skdadl, I think it's wonderful that your dentist is helping save donkeys -- I just never realized that they were being maltreated or abandoned in our part of the world. I am genuinely fascinated and naturally pleased.

lagatta I am so familiar with the woes of contract work -- it seems like its feast or famine.

Speaking of work, I should get back to studying for my Friday morning exam. This morning I tackled the subjects of risk communications and citizen engagement.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 13, 2006, 06:57:09 PM
We're up again, but possibly only briefly.  Storm was ... WOW!!...we got it all, incredible wind, driving rain, even had thunder and lightning.  Power was out almost a full day, has just come back on but we're warned it could go down again in a couple of hours because there are trees down across the road and they're looking for fallers to cut them into moveable pieces and to drop some leaning ones so might have to turn off the power to do the upkeep work.

And tomorrow's storm is predicted to be the worst to ever hit the coast so we'll probably be down again.

It's WILD out there!  Big Gertrude Hanson is doing her Xmas housecleaning, I suppose.  When she gets going...........dear dear......!!
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Post by: Toedancer on December 13, 2006, 07:01:42 PM
My goodness Anne, sounds biblical. Tomorrow will be worse?

I heard because earth is closest to sun than has been in donkey years, we're experiencing all of this. As well tomorrow around 1:00 p.m. sunspots are suppose to be exploding and shit, so to expect outages with radios and radio frequencies etc. To last for 48 hours or so.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 13, 2006, 07:18:07 PM
River is full, tide is very full and not yet high...my youngest son phoned from Maple ridge, all upset and worried because CNN was giving reports about this mess we're having and Pierre said 'when you wind up on CNN you know it's getting nasty".  Was I all right, did I have candles, could I keep warm, I said oh yes, yes, yes and then there was a strange noise and he said "shit the tree in the front yard just blew over, roots and all".  So I said "not in MY front yard".  He's worried about tsunami, what am I going to do if there's a tsunami.  When I told him we had a warning system and I knew exactly where I was going he sounded less upset.

We won't have a tsunami unless Japan gets an earthquake.  That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

Emily has been here all day.  The kid is great company in a power outage.  We coloured.  We used up all the stickers in the stickerbook, and we made tea on the camp stove.  Well, she said, this is better than campin outside.  There's bugs outside.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 13, 2006, 07:39:52 PM
Quote from: Toedancer
I heard because earth is closest to sun than has been in donkey years, we're experiencing all of this.


I'm guessing a Freudian slip :-)

Emily is wise anne -- I too would love such a camping trip.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 13, 2006, 07:50:41 PM
:oops:  I guess somewhere in my head I was thinking about Skdadl's  donkey saving dentist.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 13, 2006, 08:36:52 PM
Big Gertrude Hanson dug the rivers with her soup ladle so her baby, Tiny Hanson, could puddle in the water.  She used her peavey to carve the fjords,  and made all the mountains in one afternoon, playing 'sand castle' with Tiny, so he could climb to the tops and then roll down and into the water.  Big Gert blew gentle breezes to sway the trees and rock Tiny to sleep, and when she thinks things need to be shaken, washed, dusted, and pruned she whirls until she makes a huge storm.

She's having a fine time tonight!  Thunder still rolling.  Poor Corby can't perch in her usual place, a one-footed crow can't grip well.  The dogs don't want to go outside.  The cats are in the house, of course, but trying to hide themselves so they won't get put out again.

Fifteen year old grandson came over to see if I needed anything.  Told him I was fine , he gave me a hug, headed out into the mess to bike his way home again.

Em is still here, we're having spaghetti with meat sauce for supper.  She says she isn't going home because if the power goes out again I will be by myself and nobody to look after me.  Middle of last night she wakened me to tell me she had to pee and would I light the candle so she could see "because I'm not apposed'a do the lighter thing".  That was fun, a piddle by candlelight.  Got back into bed and she snugged up close and said it sure was dark at night when the power was out.  So we fell asleep talking about "the good old days" when everyone only had candles.

Now she wants me to turn out the lights so we can have supper with candles.  Why not?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 13, 2006, 08:54:34 PM
or the match thing Em. Sounds so darling Anne, I want more grandgirls.

I just baked a big fat loaf of banana/yogurt/nut bread. It's time for my tea.
G'nite all  :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 14, 2006, 10:18:58 AM
How wonderful to have an Em.

I'm just watching a family visit across the street. The house is owned by an older couple who keep absolutely the neatest property on the street. Although they are both a bit slow and creaky, they are out there almost every day, year 'round, doing something. In the summer the wife will wash the sidewalks, eg. For weeks they have been sweeping up every leaf in sight, and then they scoop up and bag them all. But otherwise that house is usually very quiet.

Today, what must be a grown child with spouse and kiddies has turned up for a visit. They haven't gone inside; everyone has coats on; so I guess it's just a pop-by. The adults are all standing on the porch talking. But the kids!

I'd say the kids are maybe 5, 4, and 3 -- all pretty young, all in snowsuits of jolly colours. The littlest one is hilarious, the way wee kids in snowsuits always are -- it can hardly move and yet it does, wants to go running around with the two olders on its fat little legs -- so dear.

At the front of the property is a slope, first of grassed earth and then a short slanting bit of concrete. The kids are sitting down up top and sliding down on their bums, then climbing back up and doing that over and over  again. The wee one can't do the climb, though, so it has to stumble over to the steps and struggle back up that way, but it's game, it's game!

This is so funny to watch. Sometimes one of them will just make a break for it and run around the lawn for a bit, then come back to the sliding.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 14, 2006, 10:22:15 AM
Why on earth are they wearing snowsuits in this weather?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Holly Stick on December 14, 2006, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: sparqui
skdadl, I think it's wonderful that your dentist is helping save donkeys...
And someday maybe you can say "My dentist saved my ass." :rotfl:

Yeah, yeah, I know it's childish, but I'm sitting here laughing my donkey off.  Is there a dopey donkey there they call "the silly ass"?  Is there an NDP one they call "Big Gas"? :fomcl
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on December 14, 2006, 10:43:18 AM
Seriously.  It's balmy today.  No need for a coat, just a light sweater.  Awesome for December 14 'cept the # of daylight hours are way too few.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 14, 2006, 10:46:35 AM
Quote from: Holly Stick
Quote from: sparqui
skdadl, I think it's wonderful that your dentist is helping save donkeys...
And someday maybe you can say "My dentist saved my ass." :rotfl:

Yeah, yeah, I know it's childish, but I'm sitting here laughing my donkey off.  Is there a dopey donkey there they call "the silly ass"?  Is there an NDP one they call "Big Gas"? :fomcl


:rotfl:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 14, 2006, 11:11:48 AM
Childish but wonderful.

Not quite sweater weather in Montréal, but I'll be wearing my fleece jacket, over a sweater, and riding my bicycle. Not winter coat weater at all. Don't even need gloves today, though I'll take them in my bag - it is December.  Had a press release to get translated and revised, make sure they got it and all, bill sent out, and am still untangling my hair. It will be a relief when I get the unmanageable ends cut off... Will try to do so this weekend, after picking up paycheque, if I can get an appointment.

I'm having an awful time finding haircut pics either on the internet or in magazines. The hair styling magazines are a nightmare in terms of layout, organisation and compositin. And a lot of the hair seems tortured either straight or into unnatural curls...

Oprah.com of all things (!!!) had a good feature on women with long hair who feared getting it cut. Interestingly, in the original story, featuring more examples of women, several of them were middle-aged artsy types, two of whom we see here, along with a younger woman.

http://www2.oprah.com/health/beauty/bea ... _101.jhtml (http://www2.oprah.com/health/beauty/beauty_chop_350_101.jhtml)

Actually, the haircut on the second woman (the 58-year-old writer) would not look bad on me, although my hair is thicker and curlier than hers.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 14, 2006, 11:22:53 AM
Storm's over.  For now.  New snow on the mountains, none down here.  Em is watching cartoons and chewing on fruit leather, I asked her if she had any plans for today and she said no, she's just waiting for her mommy to come back from seeing the kidney specialist.  she wakened me at some point in the night to tell me she'd gone to the bafroom and the power was still on.

We're warned that THE WORST STORM TO EVER HIT THE COAST is on it's way... are they trying to scare us?  Doris Day has TV ad's about disasters and the need for us all to be self sufficient, people are obsessed by the snow pack, the food in the stores gives you cancer, there's Strontium 90 in breast milk and unknown people keep sending me e-mails offering to increase the size of my penis...are we scared enough?  Why do we need to be scared?

Em says she is "thinking about" does she want cereal or an egg.  Maybe an egg but she doesn't know how she wants it cooked so she's thinking about that, too.  She thought she'd maybe just have coffee, like Grandma, but Grandma said no.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 14, 2006, 01:45:20 PM
Doris Day is such a donkey hat! Made a total burro of himself when chatting about Mexico's political situation the other day.
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Post by: 'lance on December 14, 2006, 01:51:22 PM
Oh dear. And did he venture on geography, too -- did he have the Rio Grande flowing from east to west, maybe?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 14, 2006, 08:41:18 PM
Power was off all day again.  By five in the afternoon it was dead dark outside, and we're waiting for this WORST STORM TO EVER HIT THE COAST to happen.

hey it was on CNN , it must be true, eh?

Very cold today, nasty wind and lots of snow mixed with the rain...the kind of snow I never saw in Tarana, or anywhere east of the Rockies, actually, big flakes, some of them almost saucer sized, they don't seem to stick at all, just sog into the grass and vanish.

Spent the day writing with paper and pen (how quaint, eh), but I had tea and coffee because I have the campstove.  Daughter in law came over with the four girls (school was let out when the power failed so Joanie was here, too).  Their house got bitterly cold almost immediately.

When the power went back on yesterday I made a huge pot of spaghetti so we heated that up for lunch.  I couldnt' believe how much of it my Joaniegirl packed away, she's small for her age and a real spider-child, skinnymalink we used to call it, but she sure made inroads on the spaghetti and then asked me if the next time I make it I'll let her know so she can come for supper.  Em has deigned to go home, her mommy is back from seeing the specialist.   I watched with "new eyes"...my Em is a very different child when she's one of four with her mom on deck.  VERY different.  So different Grandma said Hmmm, I wonder how you'll feel if I spank your bum?  Which Lilli thought was a GREAT idea! "spank she's bum, g'amma, spank she's bum!".
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 15, 2006, 11:34:00 AM
I'm trying to work. I have two pretty big projects to do between now and Jan. 2. I always find projects hard to get into, slow at the start. But now with a month of no work, it is even harder. Zero discipline. Maybe I should go for a walk. . .
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on December 15, 2006, 11:36:01 AM
Voted 3 times this morning for Debra's most excellent post from last night.  I'm feeling evil in the good sense, like a Diebold machine with running shoes & lip gloss.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 15, 2006, 11:38:45 AM
Well it is so balmy I am heading out now. On another thread I told you all about the lost 18 year old dog. She has been found! I was just given a beautiful white poinsetta for all my troubles and an invite to meet the dog.

She crossed the old rail bridge over the river to the other side. 'Dad' kept getting the calls from me, others, she only came out at a certain time, before dusk. So he went at exactly that time (yesterday), walked the the river street and called her name. She actually ran right to him. Tears of joy all around.
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Post by: Debra on December 15, 2006, 11:43:49 AM
:yay:  :dogwalk:
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Post by: chcmd on December 15, 2006, 11:51:41 AM
Fuming.

Got this horrible chain-mail letter thing from MADD - if I don't pass it on "my selfishness knows no bounds".  It's really nasty, I am sending it no-where, so I guess my selfishness knows no bounds.

 :rant

What possesses people to distribute this crap.
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Post by: Nikita on December 15, 2006, 12:05:09 PM
I'm looking for internet articles to link to the bullshit happening at the St. Elizabeth Catholic Hospital in Humboldt.  The hospital decided not to perform tubal ligations because it violates Catholic ethics; the things is, the hospital is publicly funded.  Apparently a priest has been rifling through patient records to see who has had tubal ligations and why, for the purposes of an audit.

I found an article about the decision to stop tubal ligations here (http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=1068a1aa-24e2-4002-b89b-ac5c24ef9187&k=16197), but I can't find articles about the priest.  It was on the news yesterday, but not on the web today.  Very frustrating.

(Hey grils and gyus!  Just popping in for a sec, glad to see everyone is more or less well!) :hug
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Post by: Debra on December 15, 2006, 12:17:48 PM
I sent you an email with some links Nikita
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Post by: Holly Stick on December 15, 2006, 12:18:02 PM
Nice to see you, Nikita.  Here is a CBC article about the hospital: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2006/09/13/humboldt.html

Is the priest Emile April, who was appointed on July 4, 2006?

http://stpeters.sk.ca/prairie_messenger/appointments_05_31_06.html
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Rev. Emile April will serve as pastor of St. Augustine Parish in Humboldt. The present Humboldt pastor, Rev. Murray Kuemper, is leaving parish ministry to pursue a vocation at the Madonna House Apostolate, based in Combermere, Ont.


http://www.saskatoonrcdiocese.com/parishes/parishes_rural.cfm

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Humboldt - St. Augustine
Box 1989, Humboldt, SK   S0K 2A0    Ph:  682-2106   Fax:  682-2055
e-mail:  staugustine@sasktel.net (staugustine@sasktel.net)
Pastor: Rev. Emile April         e-mail:  emileapril@sasktel.net (emileapril@sasktel.net)


ETA or would it have been Kuemper, his predecessor?
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Post by: deBeauxOs on December 15, 2006, 12:20:30 PM
Here's one from September, 2006. (http://www.saskatoonhomepage.ca/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=9&category=21&article=1129&Itemid=86)

More (http://www.consciencelaws.org/Conscience-Archive/Breaking-News/Conscience-Breaking-News-2006-03.html), using the search word 'Monica Beavis', also here (http://www.catholicradio.ca/news/arc8-2006.html).
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Nikita on December 15, 2006, 12:30:52 PM
You guys are wonderful!  I've been looking this morning, but silly things keep distracting me... like my job.  :P

I'm just so offended by the idea of a priest going through medical records like that.  Ugh, I feel sick way deep inside, it just so wrong.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 15, 2006, 12:42:02 PM
Well, Friday ayem out here and the WORST STORM TO HIT THE WEST COAST hasn't happened yet.  Instead, I look out my window at white shite falling thickly from on high, the kind of big wet flakes you lot back east don't usually get, big sloppy buggers that are actually starting to stick and pile up on the ground.

Son and daughter-in-law were supposed to be going Out to do a big shopping and I was going to have Joan and Emily overnight but if this muck continues they might decide not to even try the road because if we're getting this it must be almost legendary up at the summit.  Some of the "hills" heading out are 13-15% grade and it doesn't take much to make them become total nightmares...

Such ungodly weather, and it isn't even really "winter" yet!  If this stuff sticks you guys will be able to watch the evening news and laugh your asses off at the sight of city drivers in Vancouver going every way except easily home on summer tires.  Dust off the usual jokes about folks in Birkenstocks getting chilblains while trying to dig the car out of the ditch.

My Sweetie learned to drive back east, she'll be doing taxi service for all the soaks who can't drive in this crud.  She used to joke she never knew how many friends she had until it snowed and people needed to get somewhere....

So the worst storm rah rah (saw it on CNN  so it must be true) hasn't hit us but I'm ready with candles, lanterns, camp stove, etc., when it does.  I figure if I stay set up and prepared it will never hit.  It's only when you put all that stuff away that all hell busts loose.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 15, 2006, 12:46:03 PM
Quote from: Nikita
...I'm just so offended by the idea of a priest going through medical records like that.  Ugh, I feel sick way deep inside, it just so wrong.
It may also be illegal.  Perhaps a former patient who had a tubal ligation in that hospital should speak to a lawyer about her privacy rights ... :?  ?
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Post by: 'lance on December 15, 2006, 01:54:14 PM
Quote from: chcmd
Fuming.

Got this horrible chain-mail letter thing from MADD - if I don't pass it on "my selfishness knows no bounds".  It's really nasty, I am sending it no-where, so I guess my selfishness knows no bounds.

 :rant

What possesses people to distribute this crap.


It must of was sent out before MADD suspended their fund-raising operations -- because only 19 cents of every dollar was actually going where it was supposed to, the remainder going to their marketers/fundraisers.

I'm still at home with what has to be the flu. In fact, I'm going back to bed. Ooog.
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Post by: Debra on December 15, 2006, 01:58:02 PM
Hope you feel better soon! :getwell:
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Post by: sparqui on December 15, 2006, 02:26:45 PM
Hope you feel better soon 'lance.

Toe, I am thrilled that the lost dog has been found -- THRILLED.

That MADD chain e-mail sounds nasty. Are they freaking idiots?!?! From what I understand, they only cancelled the telemarketing campaign even though MADD maintains it's an educational and outreach program -- yeah, right!

Well I wrote my exam this morning. It was essay question format. Gawd I hope they can read my rushed scrawl -- I had no watch so I was shocked when they announced only a half hour left and I still had half the exam to complete.
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Post by: skdadl on December 15, 2006, 02:55:40 PM
Lost dog has been found! Yay!

Well done, Toe. Och, I love this story.


 :cheerleader:  :happydance2:
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Post by: skdadl on December 15, 2006, 02:56:04 PM
PS: Hi, Nikita.
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Post by: chester on December 15, 2006, 03:10:39 PM
hey Nikita.  are you still in the queen city or are you back up in Dog's Country?
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Post by: sparqui on December 15, 2006, 03:42:58 PM
Oh how rude of me....

Welcome back Nikita!
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Post by: Nikita on December 15, 2006, 03:52:45 PM
Regina.  Still slavin' for the guvmint.  ;)

deBeauxOs: Several people have complained about the privacy violation, and in two cases, it was found that yes, in fact, their privacy was violated.  The health region has "apologized" to everyone, but what the fuck good is an after-the-fact apology?  It shouldn't have happened in the first place.  The provincial Privacy Commisioner is looking into it.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 15, 2006, 06:23:39 PM
bought some frozen pizza dough and the kids and I made pizza for supper.

Put some onion, green pepper, tomato, pepperoni and cheese on it.

Half way through eating my daughter said why am I eating pizza with vegetables on it?

It was so good she hadn't even noticed.  :lol:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 15, 2006, 06:33:56 PM
You'll tell her that authentic Italian pizzas most often feature vegetables. At least you haven't tried artichokes, aubergines/eggplants or even... potatoes (with olive oil and rosemary, sliced very fine like chips) atop pizza. I've had all those and many more. Spinach... this in ordinary takeout places or pizza parlours, not fancy yuppie ones.

The one thing that doesn't exist in Italy is what Canadians call "peperoni". Peperoni in Italian means bell peppers. (large,mild peppers). They have sausage and ham, but not our peperoni.

I could discuss that subject for hours. The vegetables get roasted so yummy in the hot pizza oven yum yum...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 15, 2006, 06:38:46 PM
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artichokes, aubergines/eggplants or even... potatoes (with olive oil and rosemary, sliced very fine like chips) atop pizza. I've had all those and many more. Spinach.


mmmmm now that's my kinda pizza
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 15, 2006, 07:03:55 PM
One of the nicest things about Italy is that there is a food culture that has nothing to do with snobbery. Oh, of course there is snobbery as well, and horrible chic places where one is not really welcome without the proper shoes, but some of my most pleasant dishes were at street festivals, sagre (that means fairs or festivals, around a product - cheese, artichokes, whatever) or the many Festa de l'Unità, de Liberazione etc (the old Communist Party and association festivals, and those of various breakaway leftist groups). Yum.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 15, 2006, 11:04:42 PM
What am I doing?  Kid care.  Mom and dad took the two youngest and have gone Out for a big shopping.  Joan and Em are here.  Picked Joan up after school, we came home, had a discussion about "everybody" trying to boss her around and get her to do their work for them...then had supper, both ate huge meals, lots of "you're the best cooker" strokes for me...then not an hour and a half later Em hurled.  Joan came running, "Em's puking in the toilet".......and on it and beside it and over it and...got that taken care of and a very white-faced baby girl said her stomach hurt, her throat was sore and she was "bewwy sad".  So found the very last mammoth sparkler from Hallowe'en and we went out into the dead dark with it, girls took turns waving it and making designs with it.  Back inside, now, and Em is low energy, says she has a headache, I can see the flu troll coming after all of us..."it is no fun to puke", she says.

Joan said "and it was such a GOOD supper, too.".

Mom and dad won't be home until tomorrow afternoon (if then, considering the mess the road is said to be), by then we should all be lined up at the porcelain alter making offerings to the great goddess Hurl...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 15, 2006, 11:13:09 PM
big arms length hugs for all.  :grouphug  :getwell:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 15, 2006, 11:42:40 PM
I am seriously ANGRY with my fucking computer. It was a second hand thing to begin with two years ago and was basically 'fixed' a year ago. Sure enough I am trying to post in these forums and the freaking beach ball of death is spinning and spinning and spinning. As my usual response is to force quit but the ball keeps spinning no matter where I go on the computer. Then I notice that the hard drive sounds like a ticking bomb. FUCK. I shut down and try to reboot. The ticking continues and all I get on the screen is a freaking file folder with a question mark.

Hubby in his wisdom suggests that the hard drive is fried. Fucking great! I am using his laptop and believe he might be right. Still doesn't relieve my absolute ANGER that I ended up with such a DUD computer considering that my WORK depends on it. The sad thing is that I was more than willing to take this second hand beast because I trusted our friend. But still,it SUCKS hugely and god knows all that I have lost.

ETA: a correction or two -- fuck I hate these cramped laptop keyboards.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 16, 2006, 12:08:52 AM
Oh Sparqui - anger at the duddly computer and anxiety about what you may have lost - double whammy.  I hope your files can be retrieved - doesn't Norton now have very powerful software for those situations?

On a trivial note, I just finished organizing my kitchen for tomorrow's cookie bake fest with my good friend P.  All the bowls and measuring instruments are ready, the cookie baking sheets at hand, and the ingredients all lined up.  Tonight I made shortbread dough and rolled it up, refrigerator cookie-style.  Tomorrow I will slice one roll of dough that has grated ginger in it and press a little piece of candied ginger into each cookie before it is baked.  The other roll has lemon zest and those cookies will be left unadorned.  My friend has her mother's sugar cookie recipe and so there will some decorating involved.  I will also make peanut butter cookie balls.  

Next week, with another friend, G.  we will be making bars and I also want to try to make a batch of Mexican-style chocolate-cinnamon meringues.  BTW, I will be giving most of these away to friends and family - I collect suitable decorative boxes and tins during the year which are recycled as cookie containers.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 16, 2006, 12:41:35 AM
Thanks deBeauxOs. Just hearing someone else relate makes me feel so much better.

I am slightly envious of your baking event -- it sounds lovely deBeauxOs. I am barely able to pull it together for a dinner party.

Speaking of which, I felt like shit in retrospect for dumping on the boss' son. Not in front of the boss but with a colleague who said that the son who wants to follow in his father's footsteps in the business should start out doing the work I'm doing. Am I wrong to take offence when I have had 20 years experience in policy and communication roles and this young one hasn't even finished his basic degree OR had ANY work experience. Am I wrong to think that I deserve fucking more respect than that?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 16, 2006, 12:55:56 AM
Quote from: sparqui
... Am I wrong to take offence when I have had 20 years experience in policy and communication roles and this young one hasn't even finished his basic degree OR had ANY work experience. Am I wrong to think that I deserve fucking more respect than that?
Nope.  If you pointed out his lack of training/education and experience vs the complexities of the work you do, there is nothing remiss with that, IMHO.

One of the most difficult interviews that I ever subjected myself to had a 22 year-old sexist and ageist know-it-all on the selection committee.  Although the official questions were the same ones for each candidate, some of his follow-up questions to me were so disrespectful and downright condescending that his colleagues were embarassed. His position on the hiring cttee was political - he was on the board of directors.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 16, 2006, 01:28:32 AM
Sometimes  political impications have way too much influence. I just had the discussion with my husband about how I felt about what was suggested over dinner and he agreed that I had every right to be upset. I did emphasize the point that had it been an engineering position the subject would never have come up and he agreed. I'm still angry that anyone I value as a friend could even think that I was so replaceable and the fact that my computer is dead is just making my head spin.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Mandos on December 16, 2006, 01:32:18 AM
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One of the most difficult interviews that I ever subjected myself to had a 22 year-old sexist and ageist know-it-all on the selection committee.


I know this type.  He's one of the dreaded Student's Council Fascists.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Holly Stick on December 16, 2006, 01:45:38 AM
Just finished baking biscuits.  I overcooked one batch, which set off my smoke alarm and I had to go fan it madly to get it to stop before my neighbours panicked.  Oh well, my mother likes them real brown.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 16, 2006, 02:16:45 AM
I've been consoling a hurling child.  Even the liquid gravol came roiling back up again.  Emily is SO like my daughter was.  When she gets sick there's no whining, pissing or moaning, she just sort of draws in on herself , hurls very matter-of-factly, rinses her mouth, sniffs a few times and then lies down and waits for the next bout.  She totally detests the taste of the liquid gravol and got "that look" when she saw the bottle so I said I knew she hated it, I knew it tasted like gack, but it might stop some of the hurling and anyway I had a glass of ice water for her to drink afterward.  Well, she said, there better be lots.

She's now burning with fever and has fallen asleep on the couch.  I dread the idea of moving her in case it sets off the hurling again.  

Joan went to bed in the brand new pyjamas her Auntie got for her.  Big smile and she said "my Auntie sure does spoil me".  I said I guess Auntie doesn't yet know you're an absolutely horrible child who makes my life a total misery.  Joanie laughed and said We won't tell her, okay?

Now I've got a whore of a headache and I've taken gravol because of the urpy feeling.  Dammit I HAD MY FLU SHOT!!!!!  Of course, it's always "the other strain" that shows up, isn't it?

I'm also dog sitting and all five of the beasts are ranged near the sofa, staring at Emily and worrying, obviously.  They range in size from Druid, a huge chocolate lab, down to Dekker, a fat schipperke.  In the middle of her hurling little Em said "we look like we've got a dog farm.".  So of course I had to say they didn't get called a dog farm, they get called a kennel.  She snapped a kennel is a dog house.  I didn't mean dog house I meant dog FARM.  (I let it drop!)

And now, of course , I am wide awake, checking on Em every few minutes.  I'll be a total wreck tomorrow.

and it was such a good supper, too.  That might become one of the family quotes, like the time my daughter told her brother "I don't know who you think you are but it's a case of mistaken identity".  I doubt he has forgiven her yet.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 16, 2006, 06:01:56 AM
Ooh. A night of intensity. But it has produced so much good writing.

Forgive me: I'm an editor. Anything happens in life, I just say to m'self: what great raw material that is!   :wink:

sparqui, I feel for you especially. That is several sets of head-banging stuff to have to cope with on a Friday night. I really envy you your understanding partner, though. Sometimes when I was really frustrated by other things in life I used to just bang my head against Thorfinn's chest. He always understood. And it worked, too, made me feel better.

Holly Stick, you do that too? Just wait for the thing to stop? Whenever I've set off my alarm, as I ran about in panic I've been thinking that I should know how to turn the damned thing off, but I don't.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 16, 2006, 07:23:03 AM
With all our troubles, somehow I missed the good news about the old dog being found. That is a wonderful story.

Even if she doesn't live much longer, at least she'll be with her people...

Aeeeee - computers.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 16, 2006, 08:30:41 AM
sparqui I can totally relate.  :smash:

Holly those must be some hot biscuits :FIRE:

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"I don't know who you think you are but it's a case of mistaken identity"


That is absolutely priceless!!!!!!!!! :rotfl:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on December 16, 2006, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: Nikita
Apparently a priest has been rifling through patient records to see who has had tubal ligations and why, for the purposes of an audit.


Patient records are confidential. The priest can have no access to them. Period. Someone ought to verify this story and raise hell.

ETA: Nemmine. I see in a follow-up post that the Privacy Commissioner is investigating. Hope he/she slaps down that priest with a hefty fine.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 16, 2006, 12:59:36 PM
Same daughter, that same year, wrote a poem.

"The houseplants always have the look
of prisoners staring between the bars,
They miss the sun , the breeze, the stars.

And so I talk to them each day
and touch them with my softest hand
To show them that I understand".

which I figure is pretty dam good for grade four.

I am seriously underslept.  This does not bode well for civilization as we know it.  And she who hurled until five ayem is up, bouncing, full of energy and just told her sister "I don't do what you say, I do what my grandma says".

She who was hurling to the point of dry heaves mixed the eggs, then stirred them, served them, delivered them to the table and told her older sister "You could'a helped, too, you know.".  To which older sister replied sweetly "no thank you".  Older sister is very much a watcher and will smilingly allow everyone else the fun of helping.

From my window I see white shite.  White shite so thick I can no longer see the bluffs across the river, white shite which is piling up at a disgusting rate.  This is the serious snow, the "eastern style" snow, and the sky is pregnant with tonnes of it.   I suspect I'll have the grrrrls for a couple of days, I doubt anyone is going to make it over the summit today.  

Well, I'm off to do another load of laundry.  Em didn't quite manage to hurl on the ceiling, but...everything else seems to have been touched.

Corby is disgusted by the snow.  She has had two huge breakfasts and is hunched, glaring with her one eye at a world become foreign territory.  Cats are disgusted, five dogs are many too many.

And the white shite falls.........
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 16, 2006, 01:09:26 PM
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"The houseplants always have the look
of prisoners staring between the bars,
They miss the sun , the breeze, the stars.

And so I talk to them each day
and touch them with my softest hand
To show them that I understand".


That is beautiful!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 16, 2006, 01:13:15 PM
It's great!

And it reminds me of my own sorry houseplants in the kitchen, omg, omg ...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Holly Stick on December 16, 2006, 01:20:07 PM
Quote from: skdadl
...Holly Stick, you do that too? Just wait for the thing to stop? Whenever I've set off my alarm, as I ran about in panic I've been thinking that I should know how to turn the damned thing off, but I don't.
I grab a magazine, or this time a pizza box, and fan the air under it.  It goes off just about every time I cook pizza or steak; the air currents move the steam or heat or whatever down the hall to the alarm.

sparqui, anne and all, I hope your weekend improves from here on.  Maybe the white shite will kill off the next batch of germs prowling around your home.


 :snowball:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: brebis noire on December 16, 2006, 01:53:40 PM
Oh god, anne I hope you don't get that stomach flu too. It's truly debilitating - though the kids seem to recover much quicker than the adults do.
We had it here a few weeks ago, and it took me over a week to feel a bit normal about eating again. One of my kids didn't even get sick. So I got really run down and then caught a narsty cold. I have some bursts of energy know and then, but I get tired out real quick these days.  I need some kind of miracle energy cure, anyone got something truly stupendous, that works?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on December 16, 2006, 02:53:23 PM
My bronchitis is making me sleepy all the time. I go outside to work, and in fifteen minutes I'm out of breath. Still coughing. The medicine doesn't do anything I'm aware of. Forehead is warm, although the thermometer-by-mouth registers a normal 36.5C.  It's been a balmy 3C since Thursday, but tonight it's going down to -10C again, and snow tomorrow, although not much of it.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 16, 2006, 03:39:06 PM
Entire place smells of OxyClean...washer is going full-tilt boogie, the cushion covers for the couch are rinsing in the bathtub, I'm taking a break and a back pill.  Girls went outside to play in the snow and she who was hurling came in soaked to the skin and laughing.  So much energy on so little sleep!  Amazing.

She had a huge armload of packed snow, wanted to bring it in the house.  I said it would melt all over everything.  she said put it in the freezer.  I said it won't be snow then, it will just be ice.  "oh", and she dropped it on the deck.

She's very pale, with dark smudges under her gorgeous eyes but energy level is high.  Sister didn't hurl and seems much more subdued.  Dogs have been out, have been crazy, are back in, drying off and the floor has been damp mopped twice because of the dripping.  DAMN but I hate that white shite!!!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 16, 2006, 03:51:15 PM
Thanks for the empathy friends :-)

anne, that poem is beautiful -- what talent and insight at such a young age.

I went to a funeral this morning. A colleague's father passed away some 50 days after his wife passed on in their 63rd year of marriage. It was a simple and loving service. It's always hard to picture the suffering -- in this case, 20 years of crippling and painful arthritis. Anyway, you could clearly see that he was a very beloved man. I'm always awed by such close knit families.

It certainly put perspective on the death of my hard drive. I'm still pissed but we're taking the beast out for a ride in the country to the home of our friend who fixes these things. This guy is a retired engineering type who loves Macs and fixes them mostly for fun (and a decent single malt scotch or two). I was shocked to discover that he had bone cancer. He underwent an experimental bone marrow transplant procedure 10 years ago and is still going strong.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 16, 2006, 04:30:58 PM
Fridge, stove, sink and counters all sparkling.

Floor still needs washed but I'll wash all the floors tomorrow.

I love when the house is clean but I LOATH housework.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 16, 2006, 04:40:58 PM
Debra, no chance of conscripting any of the kids to do the housework? :hang:

 In my day... :age:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 16, 2006, 04:45:06 PM
:lol:

They are given things to do, but the problem is I like things done a certain way and to a certain standard so I'd rather just do it myself to begin with.

And I've learned to accept a much lower standard over the years, still.....

 :oops:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 16, 2006, 05:24:55 PM
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the problem is I like things done a certain way and to a certain standard so I'd rather just do it myself to begin with.


That is the problem!

I know that problem so well. One is perfect, or one is collapsing totally because one is not perfect.

Where did that come from?
Title: negative/positive ions ..
Post by: Croghan27 on December 16, 2006, 06:05:44 PM
Yo Timebandit:


The Government of Canada library has a little paper on the presence of ions, negative and positive, in the air of building with contained heating/cooling systems.

It is an engineering study and the author points out there is really no physcial evidence as to whether they are good or bad... but "reports" and personal experience seem to indicate that the presence of Small Negitive ions in the air leads to feeling of wellbeing - while Large Postive ions are reported to induce the oposite.

The author was obviously trying to deal with claims that some commercial air conditioning systems add an extra zip to atmosphere and he could find no proof either way.

That the ions are there is no doubt their presence is measurable ... that they make a dfference, is still up for debate.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 16, 2006, 06:59:27 PM
Oh PHUQUE housework.

I am insane.  Totally.  I have this back which is toast, and it won't bend, so often things below a certain level go undone... I have a daughter who would very gladly swoop in and scour the place until it shines.  She wouldn't mind in the slightest.  But the IDIOT here refuses to have her darlin' become her char...and I have no idea what that's about but there it is...

So I've been cleaning up after the great hurl-up of last night and obviously the fumes from OxyClean can do it to your head because I even hauled out the grill thingy which goes over the hot air vent, and I not only washed it I started to try to clean the sheet metal vent....MY GOD!  I mean MY GOD, and your god and his god and hers, too.  MY GOD!

Emily said "what IS that stuff?"  Ohmigawd...

`So I just took a "back pill" and I'm taking a sit-down break waiting for it to work and I am fully willing to believe I am insane.  I have even scrubbed stuff which didn't get hurled upon.

There's gotta be something in that OxyClean..maybe negative ions?  It's madness, I tell you, sheer madness!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 16, 2006, 07:11:22 PM
Anne, what back pills do you take? I take Zanaflex for my DDD and herniated discs/neuropathy. I took one the other night but couldn't sleep and came down to talk with  niece on msn. She told me something important and I couldn't remember next day.

She had to tell me again today.  :oops:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 16, 2006, 08:13:27 PM
Demerol 50 mg, which I take first thing in the morning.  If I can get "on top of it" when I first creep out of bed I seem to be able to "handle" it the rest of the day.  Occasionally, though, I need a second one mid-afternoon and the day I did my Toller Cranston off-the-deck-down-the-stairs with a triple axel I wound up taking a third one in the evening, but I don't often do my Cranston specialties and I've totally give up the high wire act.

Then at bedtime I take a trazadone, otherwise I don't sleep at all.  Any position, held too long, sets the rats to gnawing.  I've had back surgery and it helped, some, at least I got the use of my legs again, and wonder of wonders, I could actually feel my feet, which I hadn't done for years!

I was having hell's own time and the physician sent me off for X-rays... four herniated disks, he recommended more surgery but...eeek...

Anyway, the great clean-up has come to a lurching halt, Emily helped fold the laundry, and has said she's going to help re-make my bed "I'm the one puked on it, right?".  Oh yes, my darlin' , you certainly did!  On it, in it, over it, all over it...and the sofa (never did want the dam thing anyway!).  A leg broke off it several months ago and guess what...a can of pineapple chunks was exactly the right height to fit under the corner and keep it even...and the "skirt" at the bottom hides the can very effectively.  It was a thrift store special and when I asked for an estimate on replacing the broken leg the cost would have been more than was paid for the sofa (which I didn't want but everyone, especially my daughter, said ....).  Then she came home with it...tells me it is really a "love seat", it's acceptably small.  There was a huge bloody blister of a thing in here when I bought the place, had a hide-a-bed concealed in it, the most totally uncomfortable torture rack, a fit place to put Steve our noble leader.  Friends who live at Friendly Cove, in the old village of Yuquot mentioned they needed a sofa and I said oh, that one's yours if you can get it out of here..they could...off it went...it was one of those jeezly awful things that is part of a "suite"...and by the time this part and that part and the next part were in place three walls of the living room were hidden.  I have some rocking chairs but my daughter said people weren't comfortable in them, I needed a sofa.  My idea was if they weren't comfortable they'd eff off faster, right?

Daughter says if I get any worse I'll do an Emily Carr and hang the furniture from the ceiling so I can haul it up out of reach when it's time for people to leave.  Emily was a great old gal!

Daughter in law just phoned .  They made it in over the awful road, she said it was just a nightmare.  I haven't told the grrrrrls, they're playing some game which involves them screeching at each other.  

I might take another pill.  hell, take two , they're small...
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on December 16, 2006, 08:16:02 PM
I mopped the floors in this place last summer, now it looks like I should mop them again. How many times a year is normal for mopping the floors? Two? Three?  :?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Bacchus on December 16, 2006, 08:18:24 PM
er ah um, you got the number right but its per week not month or year  :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Boom Boom on December 16, 2006, 08:24:42 PM
Surely you jest?  :shock:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: jrootham on December 16, 2006, 09:40:38 PM
Don't call me Shirley!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 16, 2006, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: anne cameron

Then at bedtime I take a trazadone, otherwise I don't sleep at all.  Any position, held too long, sets the rats to gnawing.  I've had back surgery and it helped, some, at least I got the use of my legs again, and wonder of wonders, I could actually feel my feet, which I hadn't done for years!

hell, take two , they're small...


Okay lets compare. I don't do demerol cos I haven't reached those pain levels yet. But I am most interested in your back surgery. What was it called and how much relief did you get? Would you recommend it?

Trazadone my SO takes every night and even then he finds himself greeting the empty house, cos I am sleeping and dreaming and he wouldn't wake me if his life depended on it. It's lonely for him cos the Oz and Shithead simply wouldn't think of moving unless I did.

Sucks but spirit somehow triumphs.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 16, 2006, 11:18:18 PM
I don't know what the procedure was called.  They draped me over a big ball, and that's the last I remember.  I was told he went in and "emptied" the ruptured disk, trimmed off all the hanging bits, freed the trapped sciatic nerve (oh, thank you, kind sir!!), then followed the sciatic nerve down my leg, freeing up adhesions...the nerve had been inflamed so long the outer casing had split in places and bits'n'chunks were sort of waving in the breeze rubbing on meat and it hurt like hell.  Anyway, I came to with a bruise that covered one entire butt cheek and down my outer left leg to my knee.  As soon as my eyes focused they had me up in a walker frame.  A day or two later this lovely young woman came in with a sort of jacket thingy, with long straps, told me to put it on, she was going to teach me how to go up and down stairs...that was scarey!  But I was in Lion's Gate and they have a smoker's porch so I got lots of excersize, pushing a wheelchair ahead of me, gimping down for a smoke, then back to bed, then down for another...then a week or so after the operation they let me go home because, they said, I was doing so well.  Not to lie on my back...not to lie on my belly...three months of a lawn chair and resting on either left or right hip and since the left one hurt like holy hell it was mostly the right one...going for walkies several times a day...getting reintroduced to my feet and shins...two canes at first, then one... and the amazing thing is after I broke my hip last year and they gave me my titanium construct I haven't needed a cane except when I'm absolutely bottomed out and stumbling with fatigue.

Would I recommend it?  Prolly not.  My son had a similar thing done and he's in worse shape than ever.  Now that four more disks have joined the exodus they've suggested more surgery and I'm very hesitant.  It was a HUGE thing, I don't know if I could make myself "do it" all over again.  

The Trazadone works for me, without it I can't snooze for more than a half hour, then I'm awake and I hate that, you just lie there and itch.

THey tried me on GabaPentin, originally developed as an anti=convulsant and that worked well right up until it stopped working.  One doctor suggested methadone for pain and I freaked right out, my cousin started out on methadone and then became a full fledged junkie and it killed her.

Then some young Beaver Cleaver type decided demerol was going to eat holes in my brain or something and he said take this (like Alice in Wonderland, eat this, drink this...)  He put me on duragesic.  It put me in the ozone but didn't stop the pain, then I researched it on the internet and it's eleven times stronger than heroin so the rest of the prescription is unused and I'll take the holes in the brain, hell, the best of us only use less than ten per cent, right? Politicians don't even use that much, if I get too ga-ga I'll run for office.

I had my fifth cervical vertebra broken in a car accident and my back was never the same.  Then a series of dumbass things happened, most of them having to do with hard repetitive physical labour and one incident where I was under the mistaken believe I was Wonder Woman...I want that bumper sticker "If I'd known I was gonna live this long I'd'a taken better care of myself".
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 16, 2006, 11:58:13 PM
Jesu Gawd I'm fucking jaw dropped. I will read once again tomorrow, so I can figure it all out. You say so much, then I have to figure out what 'much' works that I can comment upon and learn from. I want to learn definitely from your back injuries, as I have many of the same. I fear for myself, because I am I guess old school and want to do without any meds., and I have managed that so far, but I am also obstinate and believe I shall jump and do jumpin jacks, cos I still believe I can do them. I am in the 'inbetween stage' where I don't believe anything because my mind and body should be able to do anything. Altho I admit to my hearing my own mortalness, but I can't quite allow myself to believe it.  I think I should stop listening to John Lennon.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on December 17, 2006, 03:02:51 AM
I did the no meds thing for a couple of years.  Told myself I was tougher'n'shit and mind over matter and some people learn to sleep on a bed of nails and I read the books and ...and I did the accupressure, and the other accu with the pins, and I did healing touch, and any time a Reiki master wanted to have a go I went along with it happily and I did massage and..and I did the excersizes and I meditated, and ....thank god they make good drugs!!!  Because while the healing touch worked a BIT, when your back is toast your back is toast.

I used to be told I was "tall for a woman".  Which didnt' impress me because of six female cousins only one was shorter than me.  Well, I've lost about three inches in height so nobody says I'm tall for a woman any more.  I think those of us with long backs are ripe for trouble.  Any of us who've done hard physical work are sure to have trouble.

I was always athletic, stuff other women couldn't do at all I could do easily.  Hell, I even knew body mechanics, lifted with my legs, never turned while lifting...

But once you've injured it, you never really get back to where it was to begin with.  I call my cane "my upstanding friend", she was the first thing I reached for when I got out of bed in the morning.  Yep, even before that first delicious cigarette and coffee.  Now I don't need her as much or as often, but she's never far from hand.

I have another one which lives in my car because driving or riding in a car is just total ratshit.  I used to travel a lot, did readings, loved doing them, now I don't do it at all, it just downright hurts too much to travel.

By me, not using medication for a bad back makes about as much sense as not using insulin for diabetes.  But I had to find that out for myself.  Everyone I know with toast-for-back tried not to use medication, and found out life is too sweet to pass it restricted when you don't have to.

I played softball, soccer, and lacrosse.  I was in track and field.  I enjoyed what my body could do.  But I wasn't kind to it.  It was like the wind, you know, you think it will always just be there.

Good luck with yours.  There used to be a guy in Toronto, "the back doctor", he had a bad back himself and at least didnt' treat you as if you were making puppies.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on December 17, 2006, 04:24:21 PM
I bought the book "Backlash (The Undeclared War Against American Women) today-fern hill has mentioned it a few times.  I can't wait to read it.  Interesting when I took it to the counter to pay for it, the guy (I'd say he was 19) was really keen that this book looked really interesting ('tho he hadn't read it).  He then mentioned about a guy who had been in yesterday ranting about how "men are fourth class citizens in Canada".  He thought the guy was an idiot.  Scary that there are so many of these angry men floating about but kinda nice to encounter a young guy that's onside.

Made 9 kinds of cookies with my friend and her sister.  It was fun and for the most part they turned out OK.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 17, 2006, 04:37:14 PM
k'in, I'm just looking at your location line -- are you on some kind of tropical holiday? *jealous smiley*   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 17, 2006, 04:52:10 PM
Ha. I was looking at my copy of Backlash this morning at sweetie's. (He's been getting around to reading it for about six years now.)

There is more in it than I remembered. It's dated, of course, published in 1991, but a scary lot of what she says the right was up to has come to pass. In the politics section, she talks about two women in particular, Beverly LaHaye (wife of Left Behind guy) and Connie Can't-remember. I googled both of them and they're still alive and wrecking evil.

Faludi is having fun in that section, pointing out their power suits, terrribly packed schedules, all the usual trappings of power (including car phones, which were horrendously expensive at the time), while the women themselves are making careers of warning of the terrible dangers of feminism, of women in power.

I'll be interested to hear what you think, k'in. Maybe we can have a thread specifically about backlash, or conservative women, or anti-feminist women. . .

Oh, and skdadl, speaking of holidays, have you got your passport yet? :twisted:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 17, 2006, 05:58:56 PM
Quote from: Mandos
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One of the most difficult interviews that I ever subjected myself to had a 22 year-old sexist and ageist know-it-all on the selection committee.
I know this type.  He's one of the dreaded Student's Council Fascists.
Wow!  You are good.  8)

My friend and I made double batches of 4 different cookie recipes yesterday and shared them.  Traditionally, I bake my solstice treats with my daughter but she and her pard'ner are enjoying an extended honeymoon before coming back to the salt mines.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 18, 2006, 09:46:57 AM
Hey, you guys. Stop being interesting. I've got a ton of work to do and you are distracting me. It's your fault. Stop it.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 18, 2006, 09:56:28 AM
recipe for playdough

    *  1 cup flour
    * 1 cup warm water
    * 2 teaspoons cream of tartar
    * 1 teaspoon oil
    * 1/4 cup salt
    * food coloring

Mix all ingredients, adding food coloring last. Stir over medium heat until smooth. Remove from pan and knead until blended smooth. Place in plastic bag or airtight container when cooled. Will last for a long time.

Traditional Sock Monkey

http://lennytaylor.freeyellow.com/Monkey.htm (http://lennytaylor.freeyellow.com/Monkey.htm)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Caissa on December 18, 2006, 10:29:49 AM
How does it compare to the commercially avaialble varieties of playdough?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 18, 2006, 10:31:04 AM
As good or better and if you involve the kids in the process they take better care of it.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: kuri on December 18, 2006, 10:53:47 AM
Yey, playdough. :) I actually have something called "Fun Doe" (various coloured cookie dough in playdough like tubs) that I bought as part of a fundraiser. I'll be bringing it up north with me when I go up to the Peace for Christmas this Wednesday (I'll probably only be online for short spurts up there - it's a dial-up house.... ack! stone age! pioneer life! dial-up internet!!)

I am on vacation. So far, vacation is only consisting of catching up on housework that L. and I let slide we both put in overtime at work to make sure my projects were complete before vacation for me (and training for L. as he just started his new job recently). There's a lot of housework. I discovered that Hester had learned a new trick to tear open the big bags of food (it's just so much tastier straight from the bag than in her food dish!) so I had to find new bags and maybe a different place to keep her food. She's actually put on quite a bit of weight over the winter. I'm hoping that's just a temporary thing and she'll work it off in the summer when she goes outside and runs around. My old cat (now my mom's cat) Sidney probably has diabetes and it's been very difficult keeping him on his diet when he just steals food from the other cats - he's kind of a compulsive eater. Don't want to deprive the other ones, but the regular food dishes need to be off the floor to keep him from taking it all.

I never feel like I can keep up with this thread. Just read about Anne's back surgery. Now I don't feel at all bad about my knee surgery. I don't know if I could go through with that. Painkillers (esp. narcotics) seemed to mess up my digestive system badly (didn't seem too bad at first but after a week of them, I was puking everything I tried to eat and couldn't use the washroom either) - I never want to take painkillers again in any quantity.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on December 18, 2006, 12:02:26 PM
I went to the dentist this morning and discovered one of my worst fears has come to pass.  My dentist has apparently retired.  He has competently and gently taken care of me since I was 18.  Anyhow, the new dentist (woman, Filipina) seems quite nice and not a sadist (always a possibility when the topic is dentists).  We even had an eye popping exchange about our mutal love of candy excess-kept my sugar habit a secret from the former dentist.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 18, 2006, 12:08:12 PM
Glad it all worked out!!

I'm off in a couple of minutes to get one set of results.

Cross your fingers.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 18, 2006, 12:11:14 PM
:fingers crossed smiley:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 18, 2006, 02:28:16 PM
WOOHOO

so everything is good. Didn't find anything we didn't already know was there.

I go in for surgery Jan 23rd for an Endometrial Ablation (http://www.ivf.com/eablate.html)

Tomorrow I get the results of the cardiac and lung functions.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 18, 2006, 02:37:58 PM
Ruling out the uncertainties -- one victory at a time, eh?  

I'm sure it's very wearing, Debra. I'm so glad that the doctors you're seeing seem to know where they're going now. It takes a while to get there, though, doesn't it.  

Big hugs.   :hug
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: kuri on December 18, 2006, 03:07:31 PM
Congrats, Debra!  :)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on December 18, 2006, 03:13:24 PM
Good news Debra!  Sorry you are having to endure so much medical stuff. :tbwave:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on December 18, 2006, 04:22:23 PM
Good news indeed Debra -- will continue to send good vibes your way -- or positive ions, or something like that.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 18, 2006, 04:30:33 PM
Oh good, Debra.  I've been saving this special smiley to use just for you.

(http://www.lafilleduperenoel.net/smilies/cat/content-fier/content-fier-lfdpn-003.gif)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 18, 2006, 04:34:03 PM
Thanks everyone.  :grouphug
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 19, 2006, 02:38:19 AM
Thats great news Debra  :clap:  I hope the next few tests also turn out good.

Well I have a new but used hard drive. I was forewarned by my techie friend not to depend on it like a tried and true work beast because it's just a temporary fix. Oh well.

The spousal unit was quite generous with sharing his laptop with me over the weekend -- I was pleased. I also managed to clear out and reorganize our storage closet. Woohoo! Filthy job but it's kind of neat to trip down memory lane. A real gross out was finding dead insect things imbedded in the fibres of an old woolen dress that I was hoping to rehabilitate one day  :yuk
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 19, 2006, 04:50:28 AM
Quote from: sparqui
The spousal unit was quite generous with sharing his laptop with me over the weekend -- I was pleased. I also managed to clear out and reorganize our storage closet. Woohoo! Filthy job but it's kind of neat to trip down memory lane. A real gross out was finding dead insect things imbedded in the fibres of an old woolen dress that I was hoping to rehabilitate one day  :yuk


"The spousal unit" -- hee.  :D

I've always wondered what it would be like to try a one-computer two-person household. What happens to the addict whose turn it isn't? Does she go into withdrawal? No! She cleans a closet!   :D

The dead-insect thingies -- yeah, I know that experience. The ones I've encountered have been the dried up shells of moth larvae, who of course munched away at the fibres before they growed up. One year I lost a beautiful winter coat that way. Turned me into a maddened fumigator for a while, that experience did.
Title: dead insects and pussy cats ....
Post by: Croghan27 on December 19, 2006, 05:29:40 AM
Yo skdadl:

My experience with moth balls is restricted to distributing them in a neighbour's flower garden in an effort to keep my pussy cats from using it for a latrine.  (Causing no end of tension in the neighbourhood).

Do they really work on the various bugs and beasts that inhabit the deep dark recesses of a closet? I know they keep me out ..... they contain naphthalene, a substence I used to make - it was dangerous in manufacture, but that was in huge quantities.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 19, 2006, 05:34:05 AM
Well, I did two things, Croghan. I got some cedar balls to keep in my drawers (there's my straight line for the day) -- if you're using cedar balls, it's a good idea to refresh them every once in a while by putting them in a bag with some sandpaper and giving them a good shake.

But whenever I've thought I might have a real infestation, I have been a bad person and put up a few no-pest strips. Those things work, kill any and all little creepy-crawlies. I just hope they aren't killing us too.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 19, 2006, 11:56:04 AM
:funky:  :funky:  :funky:  :cheerleader:  :cheerleader:  :whew:  :yay:  :yay:

I may be the size of a horse, but apparently I'm also as healthy as one.

All tests came back free and clear.

Now I just need to see an allergist as that is the likely cause of my asthma.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Caissa on December 19, 2006, 12:03:58 PM
Shetland pony?? Congrats Debra. My biggest allergy is dust and dust mites.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 19, 2006, 12:07:10 PM
Quote from: sparqui
... Well I have a new but used hard drive. ...
Were you able to retrieve your files from the old one, the one that was fried?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 19, 2006, 12:19:53 PM
Congrats Debra, that is the best news. Healthy as a horse, woohoo!

I am repairing D's Star of Davids she made out of popsicle sticks and glitter when she was 8. Many more funny things she made need repair for tree.

Now the important news. She has bought herself a Laptop and is giving me her computer. You have no idea how special this is for us, two people/one computer. But she says I have to 'clean it'. Is that going to mean taking it to a computer geek for money?
Does she mean get rid of all her old files?

Also Bell is going to give us a new modem to be used for both computers, faster service and a disc to repair problems, for an extra $3.00 a month.
Is that reasonable?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 19, 2006, 12:30:03 PM
So is this a modem or a router?

Why is it faster are they upgrading your service? from dial up to dsl or basic dsl to turbo?

By clean she likely does mean to clear her old files.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: GDKitty on December 19, 2006, 12:31:04 PM
Quote from: Debra
All tests came back free and clear.


 :congrats: Woohoo!  Sounds like you survived the Olympics-of-medical-testing! Glad to hear you're A-OK! :yay: :champagne:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 19, 2006, 12:33:17 PM
Great news, Debra.  *salutes*
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 19, 2006, 12:34:42 PM
Yeah, wonderful news. :)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 19, 2006, 12:37:49 PM
I have to look at my notes. Yes the modem is the router as it is built in it. And yes from dial to dsl.

So yes I have to take it in to a computer guy to clean files?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 19, 2006, 12:44:40 PM
3 bucks for upgrade sounds good.

You can clean the files out yourself.

Two ways 1) you can do a total reinstall of windows
               2) You can go through all the My Documents and other files and                                                                             highlight and delete.
Title: is there ....
Post by: Croghan27 on December 19, 2006, 12:50:01 PM
One again I have been undone by the forces of regression and corporate greed.

My subscription to Quatro Pro has gone the way of the Mac10 and I am without any kind of accounting program ...

Anyone know if there is one on line somewhere?   :whis: Freebies, that it?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 19, 2006, 12:53:59 PM
look into these (http://www.google.ca/search?q=open+source+accounting+program&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 19, 2006, 01:33:44 PM
Fantastic news Debra!!!

deBeauxOs, nothing was retrievable from my old hard drive. (There are experts but it isn't worth spending $700+ on -- same thing happened a year ago with my old computer that had EVERYTHING I had worked on dating back to 2000, and that was a shock. At least this time I was in the habit of weekly back-ups so it was only the e-mail address book and current word/excel files that were lost.)

Toe, congrats on your new computer and broadband upgrade.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 19, 2006, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: Debra
...  2) You can go through all the My Documents and other files and highlight and delete.
After you've done that - which will create room for your own documents and files, you may want to run your defragment program, which most operating systems have.  Just look around in your settings files to see what it offers.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 20, 2006, 07:33:47 AM
At nine, I have to bundle my Gomer up and get him to the vet. Nothing's wrong, but the kind of insulin that he has been on has been discontinued -- ?!? -- and apparently, he needs to see the vet to be switched to a new kind.

Don't ask me -- I just work here.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Caissa on December 20, 2006, 07:57:03 AM
At, 9:45, Mrs. C. and I are off to our older sons Christamas concet at school. His grade (4) is doing Rocking Around the Christmas Tree and O Christmas Tree.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: brebis noire on December 20, 2006, 08:21:10 AM
Just curious - why don't they hold that in the evening?

When we do daytime stuff at my kids' school parents complain because they aren't able to get off work to attend.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on December 20, 2006, 12:30:04 PM
Quote from: Debra
All tests came back free and clear.


'Ray, Debra! Excellent news.

I'm drearily reading about flu, and how the fatigue can last for weeks. Yay.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Caissa on December 20, 2006, 12:36:36 PM
Hi B.N.,
It was standing room only at the school. It would probably be more of a logistical nightmare in the evenings. In the morning, they have all of the children there.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 20, 2006, 12:41:54 PM
I'm off to find a small Scotch Pine. It must be less than 7', preferrably only 5'10" or so. This will be difficult in our supersize me world, but I will try my best. I will also be a pain when I want the extra cut made. I will not pay more than say $20.00 even if I have to cut the thing myself. I am somewhat flexible on the 'type' of tree, ev. else is non-negotiable.

Then I'm off to get the Dream Square ingredients. I just found out that what I called Dream Squares these past 20 years are not called that. When I gave the recipe I was told they are called Dream Coconut Bars. Phooey, I cut them into squares so they are dream squares. And I am assured of this name lasting well beyond my death at least in my family.

The best part is that there is NO SNOW! I love this weather. No boots, big heavy coats, mittens/scarves/tukes. For those of you who love snow or even more importantly have wee children so need snow, well, I'm sorry.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 20, 2006, 01:54:48 PM
I just tried to pass a phony five-dollar bill and got caught.  :shock: Really, I have no idea where I got it. Be careful out there, folks. The crooks are making fake fives now.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 20, 2006, 01:58:57 PM
Good heavens!  :shock:

Do you know whether we can check for them the same way we could/can check for the fake $50s? ie, rub against a piece of white paper -- the dye ccmes off the fakes?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on December 20, 2006, 02:01:57 PM
One time a few years ago, I got cash out of a Royal Bank ATM, which dispensed 5's as well as 20's. (Do they still? Haven't used one in years). I went into a store two doors down to buy some small thing, the proprietor put one of these 5's under some light and pronounced it fake. You're joking, said I. No, said he, it's no good. I went back to the Royal, which happened to be open, went up to a teller and presented her with the bill, asking if it was genuine. She examined it, put it under her machine, shrugged and said yes.

So while I don't doubt some people are colour-photocopying 5's, there may be some over-cautious or confused merchants out there as well.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 20, 2006, 02:10:27 PM
I'm looking at it, 'lance. It is definitely bad. Brighter blue, for one thing. And, skdadl, no, the ink or dye does come off on white paper. It is missing the three shiny maple leaves between Wilfrid and the big 5. The leaves are there but are not shiny.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on December 20, 2006, 02:13:04 PM
Quote from: fern hill
I'm looking at it, 'lance. It is definitely bad. Brighter blue, for one thing.


Ah. Fair enough. The one I had, I was pretty sure was real, and if fake was a good enough fake to fool a bank. I can't imagine someone going to that trouble for a lousy $5.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 20, 2006, 02:13:23 PM
Quote
no, the ink or dye does come off on white paper.


? Does or does not?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 20, 2006, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Quote
no, the ink or dye does come off on white paper.
? Does or does not?
If real, should come off.  True of all denominations.  Colour photocopy does not rub off like ink does.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 20, 2006, 02:18:07 PM
Sorry, my new criminal career is affecting my ability to write. Does NOT come off.

ETA: And the bad bill does not have the little coloured 'hairs' embedded in the paper that you can see when you hold it up to the light.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 20, 2006, 02:19:40 PM
Well, the orangey-pink ink on the fake fifties definitely did come off. A bank teller showed me how to check, and I've seen Loblaws tellers check too. We had a serious rash of them for a while, and the real fifties weren't the rubbable ones -- it was the fakes.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 20, 2006, 02:27:56 PM
My bloody browser won't let me see what's on this page.

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes ... index.html (http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/counterfeit/index.html)

Somebody, please go there and bring back info.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 20, 2006, 02:30:08 PM
A fire truck has just pulled up across the street, and three workers with what looks like resuscitation equipment have gone into the house three doors away from me ...

And here is the ambulance.

Oh, dear. I have been in this situation. Good luck to them, whoever they are -- I don't know those neighbours. :(
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 20, 2006, 02:32:14 PM
what would you like to know?

there is this menu
Counterfeiting FAQs

   1. How can I tell if a bank note is real?
   2. What should I do if I have a counterfeit note?
   3. How does the Bank of Canada handle counterfeiting?
   4. Which note is counterfeited most often?
   5. How serious a problem is counterfeiting?
   6. Why does the Bank of Canada not offer reimbursement for a counterfeit note?

and this info on the page you linked to

Counterfeit bank notes make up only a tiny percentage of the total number of notes in circulation. Nevertheless, the Bank makes every effort to combat counterfeiting so as to limit its impact on Canadian businesses and its potential to diminish public confidence in Canada's money.
Making notes more secure

Notes in the Canadian Journey series have a number of new security features that are easier to use but difficult to copy or counterfeit.

    * View security features

Collaborating with law enforcement

The Bank works closely with law-enforcement agencies throughout Canada to ensure that they have the tools, training, and support they need to effectively combat the counterfeiting of Canadian bank notes.

    * RCMP

Improving education and training

The Bank offers a wide variety of printed, electronic and learning resources to the general public and its partners, with whom it works closely to fight counterfeiting:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 20, 2006, 02:33:45 PM
Fire guys have come out; they are leaving. Paramedics still in house.

The fire guys are brilliant -- they are always first.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 20, 2006, 02:36:58 PM
Medics have brought out  a patient on a stretcher -- I think she's an older woman, but I can't tell. She looked so small on the stretcher. She is being accompanied by a young woman.

And they're off.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 20, 2006, 02:41:07 PM
Drama everywhere today. Debra, number 1, how to tell would be good.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on December 20, 2006, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Fire guys have come out; they are leaving. Paramedics still in house.

The fire guys are brilliant -- they are always first.


Years ago, I read that if you have (say) a heart attack, your chances of survival are better with the fire department than with the paramedics -- not that the fire department are more competent, just that they tend to arrive first. This is dependent on where you live, of course.

Of course, people have an exaggerated idea of how effective the first response to a heart attack is -- that is, they tend to think CPR saves a lot of lives. Last time I took a first aid/CPR course, the instructor levelled with us. She trained a lot of firefighters. In one firehall, of 200 heart-attack victims they'd given CPR over a period of X years, 10 survived.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 20, 2006, 02:46:54 PM
Certainly, with older people, that's true, 'lance.

The medical director of Thorfinn's place told me at the beginning that the success rate of CPR at that institution, one of the biggest nursing homes in the country, over thirty years was ... 0 per cent.

Well -- he just held up his thumb and forefinger and made a circle with them.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 20, 2006, 02:48:22 PM
How can I tell if a bank note is real?

    All genuine bank notes have several security features* (Counterfeiting Prevention) that you can check quickly and easily.

    We recommend that you verify two or three security features. If you're still not sure about a particular note, then check more features.

*(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/rhainnon/counterfeit.gif)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 20, 2006, 02:49:07 PM
PS: Of course, people collapse for other reasons, and even people with heart problems may not be so far gone that they need CPR.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on December 20, 2006, 02:51:20 PM
That's true, of course. Which is why having defibrillators in public places makes sense. As I understand it, they don't restart your heart if it's stopped, but restore (or anyway are designed to restore) a normal rhythm if your heart's beating irregularly (whatever the medical term(s) for that may be).
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 20, 2006, 04:41:20 PM
Lots of excitement in your worlds -- it's a shame some of it is negative.

The fire department is pretty quick getting here I have to say for both fire and health emergencies.

I'm trying to catch up on boards now that my system is running but I really should continue my quest to make this place close to gorgeous in a shabby chic kind of way. Then I will be ready to find a tree!!!

I want one like Toe's -- smallish but nicely shaped and they are so hard to find. Everyone wants BIG so that's all they tend to sell. Also, I was told that in Winnipeg, you are not allowed to have real trees in apartment blocks!?!?! I defy them every year and carefully sneak them in. I also learned that the easiest way to sneak them out (no needle evidence) is to toss it over our enclosed porch window onto the street. It's so much fun!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 20, 2006, 04:54:50 PM
sparqui...I'm shocked....how very anarchist of you!  :lol:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 20, 2006, 06:49:44 PM
I did that too Sparqui, worked fine.

Okay so I had to pay 30 bucks for the scotch pine so what? It's wonderful.
Brought it home, sawed off bottom and wee limbs. Not gonna decorate until tomorrow night. Want it to just sit in the water and bloom outwards.

I did go tromping through some crown land, but as usual too spindly. I once X country skiied in York Region, never paid, always went in the back way off a concession. Thought maybe I'd try that with a tree farm, but time just went by and I had to do other stuff. Such is life.

BTW Canadian Tire is now selling Full Luggage Sets and Digital Cameras, who the F knew?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Bacchus on December 21, 2006, 12:28:07 AM
Quote from: 'lance
[quote="fern hill":i1zym9vg]I'm looking at it, 'lance. It is definitely bad. Brighter blue, for one thing.

Ah. Fair enough. The one I had, I was pretty sure was real, and if fake was a good enough fake to fool a bank. I can't imagine someone going to that trouble for a lousy $5.[/quote:i1zym9vg]

Do enough of them and they are very cost effective. It was harder to imagine the counterfeiting of TTC tokens until it was found it was a genuine contract for a plant in the U.S. that made them, unknowingly.

I was involved with some counterfeiters recently and they preferred working with 20s


And belated congrats Deb!!!  Im sure any other tests will be passed too!!!

:rub:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 21, 2006, 07:17:07 AM
Oh, God. If they're doing 20s, I'm sunk: that's all my local machine spits out.

What -- we're supposed to stand there every time and examine each bill? When you need to take a course to know what the latest tricks are on each bill?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on December 21, 2006, 11:25:50 AM
Have you seen the new TTC tokens?  They look like miniature "toonies" only the gold/silver is reversed.  Sign says they willl continue to accept the old ones until the end of January.

Never had a problem with a bill but I never really look at money either. Once saw someone get a $5 refused.  It looked good to me-would have to be a bad forgery  to tell the difference.  The bills that come out of the ATMs should be checked when the machines are loaded?  Or at least they should take responsibility?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Bacchus on December 21, 2006, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: k'in
Have you seen the new TTC tokens?  They look like miniature "toonies" only the gold/silver is reversed.  Sign says they willl continue to accept the old ones until the end of January.

Never had a problem with a bill but I never really look at money either. Once saw someone get a $5 refused.  It looked good to me-would have to be a bad forgery  to tell the difference.  The bills that come out of the ATMs should be checked when the machines are loaded?  Or at least they should take responsibility?


They should but then they had a machine recently that spit out canadian tire money instead of 20s so you never know  :D
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Post by: peppermint on December 21, 2006, 09:28:12 PM
playing nationstates- kinda dorky but interesting webgame.  you create your own nation, answer a poll on politics and poof! you get something like this: http://www.nationstates.net/gallileon ( my newly formed nation)

There are issues to consider and vote on every day or two, alliances to form, revolts to manage etc,but it's not one of those typical games that is so all absorbing that you forget what your real life friends look like
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Post by: Debra on December 21, 2006, 10:46:34 PM
Quote from: Bacchus
They should but then they had a machine recently that spit out canadian tire money instead of 20s so you never know  :D

well they could take the money here
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EDMONTON (CP) - Those who need a little liquid fortification this Christmas are finding a new source of financing it - in their junk drawers and glove compartments.

A west Edmonton liquor store is accepting Canadian Tire money at par as a form of payment, and its owners say the program is a hit with shoppers. "There's a liquor store on every corner nowadays, so you need to have a bit of an edge to get someone to stop by your liquor store," said Don Calder, a part owner of Liquor International.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/061221/K122117AU.html (http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/061221/K122117AU.html)
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Post by: Caissa on December 22, 2006, 01:42:53 PM
Going on holiday in less than 2 hours. No more Leafs jokes until January 8. :D
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Post by: sparqui on December 22, 2006, 01:48:46 PM
Best wishes for a happy holiday Caissa! :carolers:  :santa2:
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Post by: Debra on December 22, 2006, 02:05:13 PM
Merry Christmas Cassia.  :carolers:
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Post by: skdadl on December 22, 2006, 02:13:57 PM
Merry Christmas, Caissa.   :snowball:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Caissa on December 22, 2006, 02:50:37 PM
Happy Channukah, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all at BnR. :santa2:  :party3  :carolers:  :snowball:  :champagne

We're only missing a Channukah smiley. :flame
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Post by: 'lance on December 22, 2006, 02:51:38 PM
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good... day. I don't leave (for Victoria) til tomorrow, so today I'm being a bum. No work for me -- I'm still disoriented, and fatigued, from the flu. To give you an idea, it took me, Pendant-in-Chief, over a week to think of the word "disoriented," which is as close as I can come to a description of the sensation. If I turn my head too quickly, it feels like it takes my brain a couple of seconds to catch up, and in general, I have the sensation my intelligence has been reduced by a good quarter -- i.e., into truly alarming, red-zone-on-the-dial territory.

In brighter news, my mother-in-law came through her cancer surgery as well as could be expected.
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Post by: sparqui on December 22, 2006, 02:58:38 PM
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In brighter news, my mother-in-law came through her cancer surgery as well as could be expected.


I imagine that is the best gift your family could possibly get! In addition to seasonal best wishes, I hope your mother-in-law recovers quickly.

Oh and safe travel! (Hey we need some travel icons...)
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Post by: Holly Stick on December 22, 2006, 03:38:00 PM
Joy to all.  Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Happy Kwa'anza, Happy season of new light and new hope.  The year has turned, the days are getting longer, and good things still happen.

I'm surviving a cold, listening to Christmas concerts on CBC radio, and planning for the future.

Best wishes to the travellers, and to the home nesters.
 :horsegallop:  :bike  :cozy:  :reading  :peacea
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Post by: skdadl on December 22, 2006, 05:02:09 PM
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In brighter news, my mother-in-law came through her cancer surgery as well as could be expected.


Hugs to you all, 'lance.

The mind gets sharper, and it registers each step as a tableau. We don't need diaries to remember times like these, moment by moment.
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Post by: 'lance on December 22, 2006, 06:42:08 PM
Meanwhile, I finally thought of another good word: stupefied. It's like being sedated, with none of the good parts.
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Post by: Debra on December 22, 2006, 06:56:27 PM
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We're only missing a Channukah smiley.


:oops: my bad  :chanukah:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 22, 2006, 07:25:16 PM
I think I may finally be thawing out.

Walked up to the mall (couple of miles) wasn't too awfully bad on the way up though the wind was getting up and it was pouring.

On the way home wind, rain, bone chilling cold, I had a feeling of pins and needles in my legs I was that cold.

Drenched right through we all were.

Just to get Santa pictures.

Sometimes I really wish I had a car.  :rain:  :rain:  :cold:  :cold:
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Post by: Debra on December 23, 2006, 02:08:16 PM
Damn. I had saved Christmas in the Trenches to post today and after I went to PB looking for it I noticed Cowboys for Social Responsibility had already posted it.

Oh well won't be the first time pretty much the same thing has been posted on more than one blog I guess.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 23, 2006, 04:31:31 PM
I'm basting a chicken. sweetie and I decided to cook today, lounge tomorrow, sponge on xmas. His papa, my father-in-law,  :shock: aka Diamond Jim, invited us for xmas dindin. Oysters and champers!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 23, 2006, 05:17:42 PM
deleting Santa Claus

How disappointing. I thought it was someone wanting to have fun but it was just a spammer.  :(     :santa2:
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Post by: Herr Magoo on December 23, 2006, 05:33:44 PM
OK, I wasn't a cynic before, but now I'm a cynic.  Spamma Claus?  That's wrong.
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Post by: Debra on December 23, 2006, 05:35:55 PM
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Spamma Claus
 :rotfl:
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Post by: Nikita on December 24, 2006, 02:21:52 PM
Right now I'm trying to get my dad's present ready, he'll be here at 2:00 and it's 1:20.  I'm screwed!  I'm burning cd's and trying to finish wrapping and stuff, and I'm not good at wrapping.  

Oh my god where's the tape?  I can't find the tape!! Frick!
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Post by: skdadl on December 24, 2006, 02:22:57 PM
:D

Breathe deeply, Nikita. And have fun.
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Post by: sparqui on December 24, 2006, 02:29:37 PM
Good luck Nikita!

My bathroom sink is backed up badly. Natural remedies, plunger and Liquid Plumber have done nada. I hate disturbing the super on a day off -- holiday to boot -- but I think I need one of those snakes.

My livingroom is totally upside down. The spousal unit is taking his time reminiscing as he goes through the many boxes I identified as junk. I just can't see us making enough room for a tree :-(
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 24, 2006, 02:32:46 PM
Oh, I just love to hear about such chaos. And this late, too.   :D

Much as I hate to resort to Liquid Plumber, I noticed this morning that by the end of my shower I am standing in a wee pond ...  I know of no other way to solve that problem. It's my hair, my damned long hair.
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Post by: Debra on December 24, 2006, 02:33:41 PM
Just put potatoes on for potato salad, a grand part of our Christmas Eve Buffet tradition  :lol:

Has anyone else noticed that potatoes come in 7lbs now not 10? and the price hasn't come down and the quality hasn't gone up.

In fact I only got to use about the half of each potato there was so much green to cut off.

 :annoyed
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Post by: skdadl on December 24, 2006, 02:54:50 PM
Because I just buy for one (the kitties aren't really into tatties), I buy smaller quantities, and usually the li'l new potatoes (which for some reason, evil, no doubt, we can now get year 'round). I do find that they last better than the bigger potatoes, don't know why, but I have kept them for months sometimes in the fridge and they've still been ok.
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Post by: lagatta on December 24, 2006, 03:08:57 PM
My favourites are the Yukon Golds - I managed to get through 5 lb of them without losing any, because I made a couple of Spanish omelettes (yum!). New potatoes don't work in them, nor in Rösti or latkes.

Anyone made latkes this year? I didn't this time.
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Post by: fern hill on December 24, 2006, 03:31:09 PM
I am multi-tasking: putting a jig-saw puzzle together, playing a computer game, and checking on you guys once in a while.

The jig-saw puzzle is a xmas tradition that I started. It's something to do when everything is closed and all there is on telly is crap. Plus it's a magnet for people. Most people cannot be in a a room with a jig-saw puzzle and not drift over to it. Start it on xmas eve and it must be finished by New Year's Day.

The computer game is Myst V. A tradition that sweetie and I started. I'm getting nowhere with it. But it's got very cool navigation.

sweetie is out playing pool with his bro and papa, their xmas eve tradition.
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Post by: GDKitty on December 24, 2006, 03:40:41 PM
Best of the season to all of you!!

I am so glad I signed on here--thanks, Debra!  You have a great board-family  :flowers:

Off to catch the bus (then GO train) to Mississauga. I'll be back tomorrow night. :grouphug:
  :santa2:  :chanukah:  :rub:    :singlemalt:
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Post by: Debra on December 24, 2006, 03:49:01 PM
sparqui that sounds like fun....yikes

GDKitty have fun!
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Post by: on December 24, 2006, 03:52:14 PM
Quote from: sparqui
I also learned that the easiest way to sneak them out (no needle evidence) is to toss it over our enclosed porch window onto the street. It's so much fun!


What if the tree falls on someone?
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Post by: Holly Stick on December 24, 2006, 03:52:28 PM
My tub has an attached plug that sticks up, so I can't use a hair catcher.  I put a strainer down over it, but it doesn't stop much hair, so every so often I have to shove a long brush in there and yank out some yucky clogs.  Not today, though. :)

I got a package from Amazon.ca and the packing was a bunch of little sealed plastic bags puffed up with air.  Interesting idea; maybe I will use them to pad my laptop bag.

I have to go out now and get some cough medicine and cough candies.

Did I mention that I'm coughing?  At least the snivelling is on the decrease.

Take care, all. :kiss
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Post by: on December 24, 2006, 03:55:58 PM
Quote from: Debra
Has anyone else noticed that potatoes come in 7lbs now not 10? and the price hasn't come down and the quality hasn't gone up.


That really just fucking sucks. I hadn't noticed the change because I didn't know it was any different before, but I did buy potatoes for the first time in eons yesterday.  :annoyed
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Post by: sparqui on December 24, 2006, 04:52:21 PM
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Quote from: sparqui
I also learned that the easiest way to sneak them out (no needle evidence) is to toss it over our enclosed porch window onto the street. It's so much fun!

What if the tree falls on someone?


It's a two person job -- one on the ground to spot and one above to toss.

Left a message with the super. I think I will probably have to wait till who knows when so we'll have to brush our teeth in the bathtub pretty soon....

So I wanted to listen to my Jane Siberry seasonal concert CD from many moons ago and was looking forward to building up to Bing Crosby and the Andrew Sisters. Sure enough, my HOLIDAY music CDs are mysteriously nowhere to be found. Hmmmph, did find one children's choir singing German xmas songs that drives a certain someone crazy. By the time I started it over for a THIRD time, the old seasonal albums came out: Peanuts Xmas, Nat King Cole, Ella Fitzgerald and Dinah Shore, etc.

It still doesn't feel like Christmas Eve but I will be trotting off to the fantastic Andrew and Stevens gourmet shop to get some treats. And of course, the hunt for the tree!

Have yourselves a lovely evening doing your favourite things! Thinking of all of you very fondly.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 24, 2006, 06:19:14 PM
I'm having a break...Em and Joanie arrived yesterday , their parents went Out for last minute shopping...I didn't bother with a tree this year and the grrrls were horrified so brought in one of my mini trees (too large to be a real "bonsai") and they decorated it...and most of my living room... this morning they'd just had poached egg, then a bowl of yogurt and here came Auntie with Grandma's chrissy prez...a set of stainless steel cookware..much fun unpacking that!!!  Auntie won't be in Tahsis tomorrow ayem so when Grandma's fun was done Auntie gave each girl a pre-present to open...sticker book and a spelling-colouring book...well, said Em, but the BIG present is still under dat tree...much fun with stickers and crayons and making up stories to go with the pictures then Auntie took them to her place to make "seed bread".  Sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, heaven only knows what other seeds...their mom arrived back, had a cup of tea with me and has gone home, says not to disturb the seed bread making...Emily is absolutely blissed, "Oh I am such a lucky girl.  I am lucky, lucky, lucky!".
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Post by: Boom Boom on December 24, 2006, 08:12:39 PM
Cleaned the house, cooked a turkey, went for a walk, just finished making turkey soup. I think I have enough turkey for sandwiches (with cranberries) all week.   :drool
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Post by: sparqui on December 24, 2006, 10:07:27 PM
Got some duck pate, manchego cheese and french baquette to bring over to our friends' place for dinner tomorrow. Also got a bit of smoked salmon for breakie tomorrow.

And we also got a tree -- not as small as I wanted but not bad. So we sneak the tree in and discover that the tree stand is missing. It's nowhere to be found. The box that it came in has been repurposed for decorations. Maybe it leaked and we decided to toss it. I can't remember.

Hubby and I have managed to McGivar it after trying out a variety of vessels for leakages. It is now in a plastic waster paper basket and three strings of wire are holding it upright. I did complain that it wasn't straight but I guess that's as good as it's going to get until we get a proper stand. (Oh and I did call around stores -- the only 24 hour ones are Shopper's Drugmarts and after being on hold forever, I was told that they don't carry them. I even broke my own rule and called Walmart but they were closed.)

So I'm taking a break before decorating while the other prepares xmas spaghetti. I thought the cats would be more excited by it all :-(
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Post by: alisea on December 24, 2006, 10:39:08 PM
Well, here on the right coast the Catlick part of the family is at a midnight mass, except it didn't start at midnight, but at 11:00 pm. The tree is up, and an assortment of decorations.

I made my version of bacalao for Christmas Eve supper (salt cod, potatoes, onion, garlic, far too much olive oil, parsley, bay leaf, and scruncheons which certainly don't fit a fish night but are too tasty to pass up, and I only ever have them with fish 'n tatties :-) ). On the side we had salad, and chestnuts and peas glazed with a white wine reduction.

My bedroom is a disaster area as my spouse has been wrapping the kids' presents. He. Is. A. Very. Considered. Wrapper. It has taken him the better part of god-knows-how-many-hours to wrap Le Son's, and there weren't that many. However, he is not a neat wrapper. The bed and carpet have both disappeared.

This happens every year, and every year I say (as the main present identifier, organizer, and buyer) We Are Going To Wrap As We Go Next Year. Sigh.

La Daughter baked an angel food cake and decorated it to look like a wreath. Then she tried to decide whether to actually give it to the 'friend' she meant it for. I spent a couple of bonding hours teaching her how to make buttercream icing, deal with food colouring, and always to tuck wax paper under the edge of the cake before you start in with the icing part :-)

A friend of mine dropped by with some serious baking for us -- cooking, a war cake, and a cherry ring, as well as shrimp dip and a bottle of wine for spousal unit and me. Another, mother of my godchildren (MOMG), appeared witha couple of bags of brightly coloured shiny things. At that point La Daughter decided NOT to give the cake to her Queen Bee friend ("She hasn't given me anything, Mummy, I think really I was just trying to get her attention ..." and gave it to MOMG and my god-kids, to eat on their way to New Brunswick.

At the moment I'm sitting downstairs at the computer desk with the printer, printing CD inserts for the rip-and-burn specials, mostly bought from iTunes. But Le Son wanted Led Zeppelin IV, and some U2, and I've already got them, so wotthehell. And La Daughter wanted Dixie Chicks Taking the Long Way, and then there's a couple for the spouse, CSNY's So Far, and Sarah McLachlan's latest, Wintersong. Lovely job she did with that.

God, I adore iTunes.

Still stuff to wrap for La Daughter, and stockings to stuff. I have more than usual to wrap this year, which is bizarre as we're more broke than usual; but my parents weren't up to any shopping, so sent me some funds to get a few special things the kids wanted.

Besdies, it's fun to have lots of prezzies to open, even if they're home-burned CDs and tee-shirts from Value Village and DVDs from the 4/$25 bin.

I wish I had a paper cutter here, as I'm going to chew these CD inserts up trying to cut them with scissors. Off utility knife hunting ...

Merry whatevers to all of you  :snowball:

Anyone want to come over and help me wrap La Daughter's prezzies, so I can get to bed before 2?  :roll:
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Post by: sparqui on December 25, 2006, 12:11:50 AM
Wish I could help alisea! I love wrapping presents at xmas.

We aren't doing any presents this year -- too much money spent on home reno and travel.

The crooked tree is now lit up and decorated. A three tenor xmas special is on in the background. I was singing along and making up lyrics for the second and third verses of these carols. The spousal unit doubts my tales of having sang with choirs before :-)
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Post by: anne cameron on December 25, 2006, 01:48:37 AM
Bit of a storm outside, not much, heavy rain but only the rare not strong gust of wind, however it would appear the east coast of the island is getting flattened.  Much of the ugly weather has missed Tahsis, and that's fine with us, who needs the drama of a tree through the roof?

Em has chosen to have a sleepover here.  She and Joan went to my daughters place to help make bread, then had supper there, then Em phoned to see if she could sleep with me tonight..I said she had to ask her mommy, it is after all Xmas eve and what about Santa and....and she said "oh, he'll know.  He knows ever'thin'.".  Mom said yes, so a very tired and very happy not yet five year old is in her Tinkerbell pyjamas, in grandma's big bed, sound asleep.  Last thing she said was "I'll keep it warm for you, okay".

Yes, there are prezzies here for her in the ayem but I bet we'll be off to Mom'n'Dad's very early on!!!

Cats are out, dogs are settled, and I'm off to bed.

Jolly merry happy to all of you.  And don't forget, he knows ever'thin'.
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Post by: skdadl on December 25, 2006, 07:33:32 AM
sparqui, you bring back memories of my dad's annual struggle to get the tree anchored in a bucket, filled with I forget what. I don't think we ever had a tree holder, not when I was still at home, anyway. But I can see them still, Mum holding the tree upright while Dad fiddled around with the bucket, muttering under his breath ...   :D

As I recall, the only cat danger from the tree was the tinsel -- they would play with that, and you didn't want them eating it. But I've never seen a cat try to climb the tree -- a kitten probably would, and maybe my moonstruck Mathilda would, but most cats have such a good sense of what will take their weight or girth and what won't.
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Post by: fern hill on December 25, 2006, 10:21:54 AM
Anyone remember the evil xmas-tree lights -- one bulb blows they all go out and you have to replace each one to find out which is the culprit? Between those and getting the tree up and straight,  children in my family heard such language.

So, we're up, Tom Waits's Real Gone on the box. I hope everyone is well. :kiss
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Post by: Boom Boom on December 25, 2006, 10:28:21 AM
I remember the evil Xmas lights well, as I had to change them. Now I only have two outdoor light cords, and both of them take different size bulbs. Grrrrrr.... should be some standardization. I've never brought the miniature Xmas bulbs because they look tacky.
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Post by: skdadl on December 25, 2006, 11:17:17 AM
At least the old-fashioned strings of lights had replaceable bulbs.

The strings I have will die entirely if one non-replaceable bulb goes. I haven't put them up this year, so I don't know whether they're still holding up, but I doubt they have legs left. Meanwhile, back in Calgary, my sister is still using the strings dad was putting up back in the fifties (or at least I think she is -- will check that in the suppertime phone call).
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Post by: Boom Boom on December 25, 2006, 11:53:03 AM
I'm was using bulbs from the 50s and 60s although it's a newer cord - maybe from 1990. I brought a new set of bulbs and lights because I thought they were the same size as my old stuff - not so. They're larger and have bigger sockets. Darn it. So I retired the old stuff and went with the new. :(
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Post by: skdadl on December 25, 2006, 11:58:19 AM
I know that is a problem, Boom Boom. It is getting hard to reuse the ancient stuff because the new-fangled replacements conform less and less ...

It's not fair!  :wink:
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Post by: Boom Boom on December 25, 2006, 12:01:50 PM
Do you remember how hot those old bulbs get, skdadl? I remember testing them inside the house, and I had gloves on, and a bulb burned right through the glove. :(  That doesn't happen with the new ones.
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Post by: Boom Boom on December 25, 2006, 12:04:31 PM
I usually go to the midnight service on the 24th at our local church, but am still coping with bronchitis and a nasty cough, so I stayed home and watched "It's a wonderful life" instead. I miss the old hymns, so I put on a tape this morning. I can listen to it once a year but any more than that and it just gives me a headache.
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Post by: Holly Stick on December 25, 2006, 12:29:19 PM
I'm trying to decide whether to go to a family gathering this evening; I am still coughing but feeling better, especially after having coffee just now.  

My cold was a good excuse not to do any shopping, so I'll probably spend some of Boxing week buying late gifts.

Yesterday, when I  went out for cough medicine, I checked the cheap videos box at Safeway and found a copy of Gremlins for 3 bucks; so I watched it last night.  It's a Christmas movie after all, and I had never seen the whole thing before.
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Post by: skdadl on December 25, 2006, 12:43:23 PM
Just finished talking long-distance to Sister No 1 (SN1), cross-checking arrivals of parcels, whether the hats all fit (mine doesn't), etc. It was very much a hat year. My sisters and I all seem to have landed independently on the idea of hats as prezzies this year, which is weird but not unprecedented among us. We share some odd kind of mind; I'm sure we should be studied.

The brothers, of course, are clueless, but you'd expect that, wouldn't you?
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Post by: Croghan27 on December 25, 2006, 01:53:21 PM
I am sitting alone at work surrounded by my boilers and pumps and compressors checking the occasional oil level and if that wretched cooler for #3 circulation pimp is clogged.

I am also trying not to feel bitter about the Read 'n Roses program that ate several copies of an input and appreciation into the James Brown thread.

What does "no mode specified" mean anyway?
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Post by: sparqui on December 25, 2006, 02:46:05 PM
The super was by this morning with the snake so I have the greatest gift of all -- WATER :-)
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Post by: skdadl on December 25, 2006, 03:01:39 PM
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All day I face the barren waste
Without a taste of water
Cool water
Old dan and i
Our throats slate dry
Our spirits cry out for water
Cool clear water
Keep on movin dan
Some devils had a plan
Buried poison in the sand
Dont drink it man
Its in the water
Cool clear water
In my mind I see
A big green tree
And a river flowin free
Waitin up ahead
For you and me
Cool clear water

The nights are cool and Im a fool
Each star is a pool of water
Cool water
But come the dawn
We carry on
We wont last long without water
Cool clear water
Keep on movin dan
Were still in no-mans land
Dry bones and sand
People never planned here for water
Cool clear water
In my mind I see
A big green tree
And a river flowin free
Waiting up ahead for you and me
Cool clear water

The shadows sway
They seem to say
Tonight we pray for water
Cool water
And way up there
If you care
Please show us where
Theres good water
Cool clear water
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Post by: Boom Boom on December 25, 2006, 03:14:47 PM
I downloaded IE7 a few days ago, just removed it. I hated it. It was especially a pain when you wanted a dozen windows opened, or, on babble, when you wanted to use the url function.  Just a piece of crap. I'm back to IE6 and it's almost great, at least in comparsion to that IE7 crap. Geez, why does MS have to over-complicate everything?  That's the trouble with IE7 - just too many useless bells and whistles for me.
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Post by: sparqui on December 25, 2006, 03:37:17 PM
Speaking of new software, MIL gave all her kidz web cams that run on the latest MS Windows operating system for PCs. The concept was very nice but those with older computers or MACs, well...
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Post by: alisea on December 25, 2006, 04:30:43 PM
Boom Boom, run, not walk,  here (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/), and install Firefox. It's the free, award-winning browser from the Mozilla people. Tabs, rock-solid, and really fast to render pages.  You should try it out, particularly given your dial-up connection.

Windows: Minimum System Requirements

    * 233 Mhz processor
    * 64 MB of RAM
    * 50 MB of free disk space
    * Microsoft Windows 98

Mozilla Recommends

    * 500 Mhz processor
    * 256 MB of RAM
    * 100 MB of free disk space
    * Microsoft Windows XP
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Post by: Boom Boom on December 25, 2006, 05:16:51 PM
I installed firefox about a year ago, didn't like it, uninstalled it. Wasn't any faster, and it had an annoying brown fox attached to all my screen icons. Honestly, I couldn't see any reason to keep it.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 25, 2006, 06:08:30 PM
I'm having a coffee and cigarette and trying to catch up to mySelf.  Em did NOT want to go home last night, and her mom said she could stay here, so shortly after I wakened this morning, and before I was out of bed a little voice said, and I quote 'mewwy chwismass.  we should cuddle."

So we did.

They had a stack of stuff under their tree and another stack here...Em didn't even LOOK at it, she simply said she would wait until the others arrived.  I said we can go over there and...NO!  Took a fair bit of cuddling and fumbling for words...damn, it's a shame their vocabulary doesn't keep pace with the intensity of their emotions... Em says she hates noise, and hates it when there are lots of people all talking at once because it makes her feel "fraidy".  It's quiet here.  She told me "all the kids" will be excited and noisy and she'll start to feel fraidy and then she'll cry and they'll all get mad at her.

So we stayed here until she was ready to go over there.  Auntie phoned and talked to Em about how when SHE was a little girl SHE hated fuss and too much sensory input and noise made her feel scared stiff, too.  And yes, all the presents had everybody's name on them but there was one big one Em could open by herself...I forget what it's called, but you touch the pen to the icon and a voice tells you something..A is for apple...one and one make two...so Em was overjoyed, and played with it until she was ready to go to "the other place".  Over we went.  It was enough to curl your hair!  Em coped as long as she could then went to have a talk with her mommy who promptly got herself and Lilli ready and three grrrls and their mommy came here...Lilli's big hit was a frog named Lilli, you press her belly and she says My name is Lilli, can you count with me...Auntie also got them a keyboard they'll have to go to BCIT to learn to use...but the huge hit were the eggs from Uncle Roger..put them in water...in only 48 hours the eggshell will dissolve and the hidden baby critter inside will start to grow...so jars of water line my counter...Lilli wanted to sit on my knee and snuggle...then she saw Joan playing with the dealyjigger where you put paint on this card and hit the button and the thing whirls and spreads the paint and...god, I hope that stuff comes out of the lino before next Christmas!!!

And in only a couple of hours I pick up three girls and we go to the village Xmas dinner.  We are taking a chocolate cake and I made a hefty contribution to the cost but when I offerred to help cook I got told no, I was to do nothing more than be sure to take the grrrrrls because everyone says they're so much fun... so fine...Em will help clean up, she has already said so...she did the icing and sprinkles on the cake all by herself...

Daughter in law is cooking a turkey, son is doing all the rest of the cooking for their meal at home.  Daughter in law said she would love to go to the village dinner but there are reasons...besides which the poor woman is bone weary so she said she's looking forward to having a break with the three busy ones off with me...

Roy and Juanita are going to be sitting with us, we have music night at their house and they've met Emily, have seen the others in the playground and say it will add to their Xmas to have dinner with the kids.  Lilli will eat "churkey" until it comes out her ears, she's a total meat eater that one and when we go for pancake breakfast in "the eating church" they know all she wants are sausages so they don't clutter her plate with anything else.

Joan got a new dress from the Ehatisaht band, because she started kindergarten and is doing so well.  It's black, with sequins and sparkles and ittybitty glass studs and...she looks like a walking shimmer in it and might well be the most vain little girl in the village today.  I thought Em might be jealous...she said Well, I'll get one when I go to school.  And Joan looks GO'JUS in it.  There were patent leather shoes came with, size six, but Joanie is so tiny the shoes are about three sizes too big, which had her bummed out until I said she could put them on her shelf, and keep them shiny and take them down and try them on until maybe next year at christmas they would fit.  Well!  A present that will last a whole year?  How wonderful!

So that's what I've been doing.

I could quite gladly go to bed until this time tomorrow.  Ah, but such a time we'll have at the dinner!!
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Post by: Boom Boom on December 27, 2006, 10:49:28 AM
Just finished cleaning the wood furnace chimney. It's a messy job, and quite cold on the roof (wind chill -16C this morning). A friend did the top part, I did the part at ground level right to the basement. I wanted to do the roof part, but I'm not as limber as you need to be - arthritis has slowed me down a bit. I tried to replace the old stovepipe with a new one, but the new one doesn't quite fit, so I have to wait for a neighbour to return from his camp to get it done, maybe at the end of the week. In the meantime the old pipes are okay, just need to be replaced eventually. Next summer I'm ordering a whole new chimney - about $500.00. That's in addition to new roof shingles (maybe $2000.00, installed) and a new hot water tank ($350.00). Having your own place is nice, but it's not cheap. At least I get a break on water and taxes - just $900 for the year.
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Post by: fern hill on December 27, 2006, 02:09:22 PM
I'm trying to work, dagnabbit, but you people are being too interesting again. Canadian history text. Not rivetting stuff, but at least I'm past the New France part with the annoying compound names.
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Post by: lagatta on December 27, 2006, 02:43:19 PM
I've been listening to Espace musique. They were playing music by Shtreimel (http://www.shtreiml.com/listen.php) - a fusion between Turkish/Sephardic music and klezmer and other Ashkenazi and Slavic styles. They have excerpts with sound files on the link I've inserted.

I have to do various things but am very tired and have a hard time doing anything. Think I'll have a hot bath.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 27, 2006, 04:02:21 PM
Oh GAWD, you poor dollink, Canadian history...gack!  I had a rant one evening about Canadian history and how first I had to wade through it myself, then help a brother and two sisters wade through, then my kids one by one and then grandkids....

and each and every one of them got the same schlock about the fekkin fur trade and the voyaguers with their brightly coloured sashes and...

my sympathies are extended.

And those fekkin maps and each province to be coloured differently, with the rivers in blue and the capitol cities to have a star around them and...

and they wonder why kids AND parents would rather watch TV?
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Post by: 'lance on December 27, 2006, 04:08:37 PM
I dunno, when I was a TA in Canadian history courses (at UVic), I decided that the problem wasn't necessarily that Canadian history is dull -- but you'd be within your rights to think so, because nine out of ten Canadian history teachers are dull. (Those teaching techniques tell you all you need to know about that). I don't know why this is, but it included most of my colleagues.

Now, some of their opinions of me aren't exactly printable, leastways on a fambly-type board like this here, but at least they concluded (I think) that I was a sharp pain in the ass, rather than a dull one.
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Post by: fern hill on December 27, 2006, 04:23:17 PM
And it really depends on the writer of the textbook. This guy is mostly an economic historian and it's actually pretty interesting when he gets into the nuts and bolts of early banking and so on. Because he's interested in it. But this is a general history and the other stuff is damn dull. And this is a more general complaint, but the ham-handed way some of these guys inject women back into the history really gets my goat. At the end of each chapter, there's a ritual little 'oh and this is what the wimminfolk were up to while all this important other stuff was going on'. Yeesh.
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Post by: skdadl on December 27, 2006, 04:29:36 PM
skdadl's theory about the good and bad of Canadian history:

So we have up here (after the Merkins decide to get revolting) a lot of exceptionally uptight people. We attract the uptight people; uptight people immigrate here, for a long time.

The good part of being exceptionally uptight is that you don't fall for the sentimentality going on south of the border. Sumpin' goin' on there, you're not quite sure what, but we're a little more stiff-necked here, so we don't fall for all that pursuit-of-happiness folderol (sp?).

The bad part of being exceptionally uptight is that we have lied to ourselves about how we got to be so lucky. The good part of being stiff-necked is that we can be talked into admitting what crooks we were, how we stole the land, have oppressed the peoples whose land it was, and we move fairly quickly and unsentimentally when we finally grasp those issues. We don't get all mucky and nuanced about it -- when we make up our minds, we just move.

We have potential. We're a frustrating bunch, but we still have clear thinkers, and we have potential.
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Post by: Holly Stick on December 27, 2006, 04:49:08 PM
Way back in the 1970s I tried to help a PEI cousin of the same age study for high school history; but it was about Bismarck and 19th century European history for some strange reason; sure different from what I studied in Alberta.  I think she would have been grateful for some voyageurs.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 27, 2006, 05:47:11 PM
My darling daughter gave me a first edition copy of "The Pioneer women of Vancouver Island 1843-1866" published by The women's canadian club of Victoria, Vancouver Island, British Columbia, 1928.

Portrait illustrations include Mrs. Robert Dunsmuir, Mrs. Pemberton, Mrs Kennedy, Mrs. Seymour, Lady Crease, Sister Mary Providence, Lady Trutch.

If you were to go solely by this book you'd think only LADIES came here to be pioneer women.  Ladies who were the dutiful wives of captains of industry and premiers of the province.

And as long as ONLY these very nice socially acceptable people are the figures in our history books we'll never have a clue from whence we really came.
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Post by: sparqui on December 27, 2006, 05:48:55 PM
If only they left the good bits in when writing those history texts. Even uptight people have their moments that are at least delightfully odd if not a wee bit scandalous.

It was only recently that I was reading some crap written by Tom Flanagan of the "Calgary School" that was dismissive of Louis Riel. I followed the reaction from a Metis woman and scholar who explained that he did sort of "lose it" late in life (delusions of grandeur and religious fixation) but it in no way diminished or influenced his former actions.
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Post by: 'lance on December 27, 2006, 05:56:54 PM
Quote from: sparqui
It was only recently that I was reading some crap written by Tom Flanagan of the "Calgary School" that was dismissive of Louis Riel.


As well as the so-called "Calgary School" (funny, I thought schools were supposed to teach things, not just reinforce prejudices), Flanagan belongs to the Hindsight School, which is unfortunately very much larger (and not composed only of right wingers). Group A lost such-and-such a fight; therefore it was inevitable they lose, because obviously they didn't have it right. Group B won, and therefore they were meant to win, because they were on the side of history. And so forth -- you can write this stuff practically from scratch, which suits people like Flanagan who can't be bothered with much in the way of actual facts.

Though Flanagan would probably be dismissive of Riel, for other reasons, even if he hadn't been delusional. If Riel hadn't, I mean -- it would take a better mind than mine to plumb the depths of Flanagan's.

(By the way, not to be too pendantic or anything, but when talking about anything written by Flanagan, the word "crap" is redundant).
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Post by: Holly Stick on December 27, 2006, 08:54:22 PM
This is because Flanagan is a political scientist, and was never trained as a historian.  He's used to explaining why a certain election went a certain way.

Actually, he does know a lot specifically about Riel, having actually done some research about him, though Flanagan's viewpoint and interpretation of the facts can always be argued with.  He was one of the five editors of The Collected Writings of Louis Riel. http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=56

And Riel did spend time in an insane asylum in Quebec for a while; and he had some weird religious messianic ideas, but their relevance is arguable [edited].

Having read some of Flanagan's crap about First Nations, I doubt that he has much understanding of the historical context for Riel, because he sure as hell hasn't done much research in areas he pretends to be expert on.  He cowrote a book about Metis land claims, but his co-author DOES do extensive research (though his interpretations can be questionable too) and I suspect Flanagan rode on the other guy's research.  He's been a Crown expert witness on some specific land claims, justifying this by saying he has written extensively about aboriginal issues; but Metis and First Nations history are different and use different primary sources, so even if he were an expert on Metis history, he would still not be an expert on First Nations history.
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Post by: 'lance on December 27, 2006, 08:58:31 PM
Quote
Actually, he does know a lot specifically about Riel, having actually done some research about him, though Flanagan's viewpoint and interpretation of the facts can always be argued with. He was one of the five editors of The Collected Writings of Louis Riel. http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=56 (http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=56)


I'd forgotten about that. No doubt I'm ungenerous with Flanagan, but if so it's for a very good reason, viz., I can't stand him. As for "political science..." oy vey.

But lots of historians belong to the Hindsight School, aka the Teleological Tendency. Training doesn't have that much to do with it.

ETA: To un-drift the thread a bit, back to what people are doing: I'm tucking into the brandy I referred over on the other thread (http://www.breadnroses.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19183&start=40). Very smooth.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 27, 2006, 10:44:01 PM
Just back from turkey dinner at my daughter's place.  Yum yum!  Her BF's little girls are visiting, will be here until the weekend.  Nice little six year old and a four year old I could quite gladly keep for the next dozen years.  Unfortunately the grrrrrls have gone to Zeballos with their mom to visit rellies on the reserve there so they aren't here to play with the "new two".  Little one has a deep, cracked voice, tells me "I don't like for people to call me Maggy.  Just Margaret.".  Halfway through supper she smiled at me and said "But you could call me Meg.".

A real keeper that one.

Dinner was excellent, always is when my daughter cooks.  Came home and my dogs let me know they were NOT impressed by my absence.  No, not that they missed me, it was covet love, their supper was late!
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Post by: Toedancer on December 27, 2006, 10:50:37 PM
I'm going  :congrats:  To this guy

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His reaction? “I had to change my underwear,” he joked.


Gawd how I would like to help him change his underwear, ohvey!

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/165527 (http://www.thestar.com/News/article/165527)
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Post by: Toedancer on December 27, 2006, 10:56:33 PM
OTHO hope he takes it easy.

$208M lottery winner dies at 43http://www.thestar.com/News/article/165434
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Post by: lagatta on December 28, 2006, 03:00:32 AM
Oh dear. :( You can't take it with you. Hope the surviving spouse does ok...
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Post by: skdadl on December 28, 2006, 07:32:34 AM
Recycling day again, but the small recycling (just garbage, of which I produce so little these days, and the green box, which would also be little except for the kitty litter -- no bottles or tins or papers).

But it's still not light, although I can see the street now. Need to force self to go tripping out there in the dressing gown. Scandalize the neighbours -- yes!
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Post by: suzette on December 28, 2006, 07:35:09 AM
Please tell me you've got rollers in your hair.
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Post by: skdadl on December 28, 2006, 07:42:31 AM
No, but I can dangle a cigarette out of the corner of my mouth if that would help your imagining.  :D
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Post by: suzette on December 28, 2006, 07:51:37 AM
Heh heh... good work!
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on December 28, 2006, 07:58:39 AM
(http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/2678/2091/lo/co5.jpg)
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Post by: suzette on December 28, 2006, 08:01:23 AM
It's 11pm and I'm waiting to go to bed.  Lofty--all 6'8" of him--is lying diagonally across the bed, occupying pretty much every square inch of it.  He's in a heavy sleep and I can't shift him. I either have to make a very loud noise to wake him or wait for him to roll over.  Votes, anyone?  :twisted:
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Post by: skdadl on December 28, 2006, 08:14:17 AM
Loud noise!   :party1

You could also try dropping something on him from a great height.  :D
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Post by: Debra on December 28, 2006, 08:33:46 AM
Oh dear did I spill I just felt like having a nice cold glass of water before bed.  :whis:
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on December 28, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
You could try rubbing his tummy and seeing if his leg starts kicking ...  :)
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Post by: anne cameron on December 28, 2006, 11:22:28 AM
Didja shift him?
I'm looking out my studio window at the most incredible salmon pink sky!  And outlined against it the snowy peaks of the mountains, where the dark slash of the tree cover still looks more blue than green.  Tucked in behind the front line of snowy mountains are the higher, completely white  farther away peaks, the ones I think of as "the dowagers".

Times like this I wish I wasn't cack handed.  God, to be able to paint that scene.  I've taken photo's but...I don't seem to be able to get any depth of field, it all flattens out, somehow.  I have a friend, Betty Fairbank, who takes the most absolutely mind blowing photo's and she has solved the depth of field challenge, her work amazes me.

She could do justice to this morning's vista.  I'll just have to lock it away in my memory bank.
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Post by: lagatta on December 28, 2006, 03:04:56 PM
I've just done a wash at the laundromat - lots of people today; they must have the day off. I made pizza dough - I'm really broke - cheque I'm awaiting hasn't come - and if someone drops by, everyone likes pizza. Now I'm eating a bowl of miso soup with bean sprouts and watercress, and about to set out to get some odds and ends before dark, as it is supposed to be bitterly cold tonight.

Ache all over and feel about 20 years older than before the winter actually started. It was so wonderful to be able to ride my bicycle...

I have to go through papers and computer files. Drat, my recycling day is Monday, meaning I had no recycling on Christmas and won't on New Year's. Must get a box or two for the overflow of papers.
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Post by: 'lance on December 28, 2006, 08:36:32 PM
I'm watching a really good British show, Life On Mars. Police detective in Manchester, on the trail of a killer (possibly a serial killer), gets run over and wakes up back in 1973 -- still a police detective, but dressed in 1973 fashion. (The gag of the title is, in 2006 he's driving a Jeep and listening to Bowie's "Life On Mars" on an Ipod, but in 1973, it's playing on an 8-track in his Rover).

Naturally, for most of the first episode he's convinced his colleagues are playing an elaborate gag, or that he's losing his mind, and from time to time he overhears a doctor talking about his medical condition (concussion, near-vegetative state, etc.). His "new" colleagues have been told he's been in a car accident, but even so they find him more than a little weird.

At the same time he realizes, or comes to believe, that a murder in 1973 was committed by the same man who did the 2006 crime.

Great use of period detail and music, and even the cinematography is different for the 1973 scenes -- makes it looks like an old episode of The Sweeney or summat (ee, bah goom. Though of course all episodes of The Sweeney are old at this point).
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Post by: sparqui on December 28, 2006, 08:46:39 PM
Damn, we forgot to tape Life on Mars this week :-(

I am really enjoying the series -- it's on Showcase on Monday nights I think. (Tell me it's on tonight 'lance and I will tape it, please?)

Doing laundry and I'm about to start dinner.
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Post by: 'lance on December 28, 2006, 08:52:05 PM
Sorry sparqui, I'm watching a tape myself. If it's on some other night than Monday, I don't know when that is.

ETA: I love how the opening monologue is a little like the start of Farscape.

EFTA: Unfortunately now I have "Live and Let Die" stuck in my head. Though I suppose it could of was worse. It could be, say, Silly Love... Songs...

Oh shit.
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Post by: Boom Boom on December 28, 2006, 10:10:08 PM
I've just finished going back and forth between two Reese Witherspoon flicks - Legally Blond 2 and Sweet Home Alabama. I liked SHA, can't git enough of the South. Fried pickles, anyone?  :drool
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Post by: Debra on December 28, 2006, 11:04:44 PM
I watched Little Miss Sunshine tonight.

Good movie.
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Post by: sparqui on December 28, 2006, 11:42:04 PM
I liked that one -- it was an uplifting little film.
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Post by: suzette on December 29, 2006, 12:33:58 AM
Quote from: anne cameron
Didja shift him?
By the time I'd fluffed around and had a shower he'd shifted himself, so no opportunity for meanness.  Maybe tonight, eh?
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on December 29, 2006, 12:54:09 AM
Quote from: Debra
I watched Little Miss Sunshine tonight.

Good movie.

Quote from: sparqui
I liked that one -- it was an uplifting little film.

Alan Arkin:  "Again with the fuckin' chicken?"  He picked up that whole movie and walked away with it under his arm.  The little girl -- Abigail Breslin -- rocked too.

Quote from: Suzette
By the time I'd fluffed around and had a shower he'd shifted himself, so no opportunity for meanness. Maybe tonight, eh?


And Suzette -- for shame!  We don't want to encourage meanness!

Mind you, if it happens by accident and we can score a cheap laff out of it, well ...  :whis:
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Post by: suzette on December 29, 2006, 12:56:12 AM
The cheaper the better, my friend, the cheaper the better.
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Post by: 'lance on December 29, 2006, 02:17:47 AM
Quote from: suzette
By the time I'd fluffed around ...


Well then I should think he'd have shifted himself, in the circumstances...  :whis:
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on December 29, 2006, 07:55:37 AM
Quote from: suzette
The cheaper the better, my friend, the cheaper the better.


'lance ...  yoo-hoo ...  'lance?  I think we're being paged.
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Post by: 'lance on December 29, 2006, 12:26:15 PM
Well, but my dear fellow. Don't look at me. My comment was, I thought, as cheap as they come, but no-one -- not even you -- has picked up on it yet.

Ah, well. I suppose there is no snerker without honour except on his own board, and among his own cronies, and in his own bar.
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Post by: Debra on December 29, 2006, 12:36:32 PM
Well some of us caught it but were too cheap to lob it back.  :wink:
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Post by: 'lance on December 29, 2006, 02:32:21 PM
Well, in truth, if you had picked up on it, I'd have been ashamed of you.
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Post by: Herr Magoo on December 29, 2006, 07:36:10 PM
Mrs. Magoo and I just installed a new pedestal sink in our bathroom.  Now, despite being the size of an ottoman, our bathroom looks like a ballroom.  With a little sink and a toilet.  With a win under our belts, maybe Sunday will be the basement toilet.
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Post by: Boom Boom on December 29, 2006, 08:06:07 PM
Just finished watching Corinna, Corinna (1994) with Whoopi Goldberg and Ray Liotta. Not my favourite film, but it has its truly magical moments. All those 1950's cars make me nostalgic for Ottawa where I grew up.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 29, 2006, 08:31:07 PM
When I bought this place it had a typical "trailer" bathroom, you know, the shortish "tub and surround", and a "thingy", you know, with the basin and then the shelves and cupboard doors below..do they call that a vanity?  Anyway, it was just awful and I have an ages-old tin tub I call, what else, "Tubby" and she allows me to stretch out and...well...handyman wound up cutting a big hole in the outside wall to get that damn "tub and surround" out of the place...had to fix that...then out with the thingy and the basin that was too small for any except ittybitty hands, and clean ones at that...I'm sure the neighbours were about ready to call the guys with nets...I mean we had holes in the floor and cats ran in and out and...eek...but in came Tubby, then in with the BIG pedestal sink, then fix the dam wall and cover the obvious repair and damage with beetle-killed pine boards (they have the most gorgeous blue and gray streaks in them!)... could NOT afford it, of course, but I told myself that with my back I need my "hydro therapy" , a good hot soak with candles flickering...works wonders, if you've got a bad back try it!

Realized that "all my life" I had wanted a pedestal sink.

Congratulations, Magoos.  Good look with the downstairs toilet...don't forget the vaseline or whatever-it-is ring to seal it.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 29, 2006, 08:33:15 PM
I meant, of course, good LUCK...tringle fubber..
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Post by: Toedancer on December 29, 2006, 09:07:48 PM
Quote from: anne cameron
with my back I need my "hydro therapy" , a good hot soak with candles flickering...works wonders, if you've got a bad back try it!


Annie baby, looky what I found: Amazing site, I've learned so much already.

http://www.chirogeek.com/index.htm (http://www.chirogeek.com/index.htm)

So far fav section is the Chiropractic one. Ha he thought his own patients were a bit nuts til he had his injury and found out what real pain was!
Just an excellent piece of work with such easy clear diagrams. Anyway, hope you like it as much as I do.
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Post by: on December 29, 2006, 09:10:48 PM
Quote from: suzette
It's 11pm and I'm waiting to go to bed.  Lofty--all 6'8" of him--is lying diagonally across the bed, occupying pretty much every square inch of it.  He's in a heavy sleep and I can't shift him. I either have to make a very loud noise to wake him or wait for him to roll over.  Votes, anyone?  :twisted:


Oh, I hate those diagonal sleepers. Especially when they're drunk. When he's sober, I can lift his legs easy, shove his hips aside and straighten him out just the way I want so I can rest my head comfortably on his chest. When's he drunk... whole different story. His legs feel like fucking cast iron, and he merely mumbles gibberish when I wake him up.
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Post by: 'lance on December 29, 2006, 10:19:39 PM
Quote from: Boom Boom
Just finished watching Corinna, Corinna (1994) with Whoopi Goldberg and Ray Liotta. Not my favourite film, but it has its truly magical moments. All those 1950's cars make me nostalgic for Ottawa where I grew up.


I know exactly what you mean. Every time I visit the old folks, and take a jaunt down to Ottawa, I can see why it's called the Havana of eastern Ontario.
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Post by: suzette on December 30, 2006, 01:54:31 AM
Quote from: ephemeral
Oh, I hate those diagonal sleepers. Especially when they're drunk. When he's sober, I can lift his legs easy, shove his hips aside and straighten him out just the way I want so I can rest my head comfortably on his chest. When's he drunk... whole different story. His legs feel like fucking cast iron, and he merely mumbles gibberish when I wake him up.
Oh, yes!  Precisely why my bed is always made up and ready in the spare room.
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Post by: skdadl on December 30, 2006, 06:02:51 AM
I'm still contemplating that length -- 6' 8", you say?  :shock:
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Post by: on December 30, 2006, 12:52:19 PM
Yah, me too. It didn't occur to me how big that was till I woke up this morning.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 30, 2006, 01:09:28 PM
You know the commercial with the women blindfolded, chopping veggies, throwing a biscuit to the dog. Yep thats me today. Gonna go to kitchen and start making the traditional turkey stuffing for New Years Day dinner for 9 frikking adults. Turkey was a freebie. One of my guests is a union steward who is on suspension right now, hee-hee I love it. Can't wait to  hear his story. Going now, really. Want it all done so I can do some serious reading.

Ooooo, my D just phoned from Montreal (nice distraction), where she is playing with 8 other young women and 3 guys, all staying together. She has a date tonight. It's just too weird. She works with this guy, they've had a crush on for months, but nobody has 'asked the other out'. So he found out she was going to Montreal, couldn't believe it cos he goes there same time every year and so he got up the nerve to ask her out for dinner, especially since his hotel is quite close to hers. She wasn't sure about this story, so checked it out and lo and behold it was true. So she accepted. Silly buggers.
I told her I was about to do the stuffing, she asked "Same one?" Yeppers.
She asked how I could stand to be me sometimes? Good question.
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Post by: anne cameron on December 30, 2006, 03:03:07 PM
Toedancer:  Thank you!!  I've been reading for half an hour and really need to take a break, my head is stuffed.

So NICE not to be treated like a nut job!  Actually, that's not fair to my usual physician, he's had back trouble and fully understands.  What most don't understand is that some days it's hardly even there and other days gnawing holes in your wrists seems like a good option.

An excersize I've found which helps MOST of the time is to just go to the rec centre and sit on the big purple ball.  I take a book.  Amazing how much gentle movement you do just keeping yourself balanced.  But don't take TOO good a book or you wind up sitting there too long and then pay the price the next day.

I really want that bumper sticker "If I'd known I was going to live this long I'd'a taken better care of myself."

Thanks for the link.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 31, 2006, 12:23:22 PM
I'm sitting at a computer that does not know my name.  The said 'puter is in a C-shaped kitchen/dining/livingroom and sun is pouring in through all 8 windows of this rustic horse/goat/chicken/dog/cat and one-parrot farm.  It's located in the top corner of Vermont aka the Northeast Kingdom, where my friend has whisked me away to snowshoe, drink local beer, sleep, eat and generally hang out near the fireplace.  Martha Wainright is singing in the background, I had french toast for breakfast made with eggs from the chickens out in the coop.  The goats are milk-provider types, but are currently not in dairy mode.

Vermont has good social programs - health care and such - which is a good thing for our friend who has to supplement her farm "revenue" with income from a part-time job in a outdoors sports centre.  In a moment I will sign off and go for a short snowshoeing walk in the picture-perfect snowy fields and woods. The parrot loves Martha - screeching along in perfect harmony.

Hold someone - human or animal - gently.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 31, 2006, 12:51:33 PM
Ah yes, the Second Vermont Republic: http://www.vermontrepublic.org/ (http://www.vermontrepublic.org/)

Sweetie across the pond has phoned. He is driving himself mad with overwork for his union and social movements - and of course wants me to scold him and get his arse over here. I told him he knows very well that he is endangering his health being so "wound up" as he says, forgetting to do "tasks". Oy veh. He is closer to 60 than to 50...

Nice to hear from him though.

I'll definitely hug some friends and will probably snuggle Renzo, although he may want to go out and gallivant with the other cats in our back garden, as the weather has been rather mild.

Now I'm going out for a walk and to run some errands.
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Post by: sparqui on December 31, 2006, 03:11:58 PM
Who knew that crimini = chestnut = brown in terms of mushrooms?

Anyway, I need to make a dish featuring these damn things which we missed out purchasing yesterday because none of the clerks at the supermarket knew what chestnut mushrooms were.

Tonight I will be Sue Spender -- Dancer and Nightclub Owner (She changes her men regularly just like her stockings...).

A friend is hosting a murder mystery night to bring in the New Year. The event is set on a hollywood studio back lot in the 1950s. My character is fond of Japanese attire and I need to dress in a kimono and stockings. I do have a tired navy and blue checked "Yukata" (house robe) that will have to do. I have a super long and wide silk scarf that will have to function as the obi. (And I'll have to shave my legs to wear stockings :-))
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Post by: skdadl on December 31, 2006, 03:21:19 PM
Gosh, sparqui. What an amazing idea. Do you know whether you get to be either the murderer or the victim? Or is that a surprise?

Since you're only shaving the legs under duress and for a socially good purpose, you can stay in the club.  :wink:

deBeauxOs, that sounds like such a wonderful winter retreat, just heaven. The French toast especially really got to me. Oh, for an egg collected only moments before ...  And I have a feeling that your goats in Vermont are somewhat luckier for the time being than the goats Mandos has been telling us about in Karachi.   :wink:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 31, 2006, 04:13:06 PM
Quote from: skdadl
Gosh, sparqui. What an amazing idea. Do you know whether you get to be either the murderer or the victim? Or is that a surprise?

Since you're only shaving the legs under duress and for a socially good purpose, you can stay in the club.  :wink:


I have no idea if I will be villain or victim but I guess I might have to whip off one of those damn stockings :-)

And thanks for the special circumstance "exemption"  skdadl :D

 :si
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 31, 2006, 04:15:56 PM
Oh -- stockings! As in real stockings? Like, not pantyhose? You're wearing real stockings?

Gosh. I haven't done that for decades. How are you holding them up? Are you wearing a garter belt? A girdle?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on December 31, 2006, 04:27:50 PM
I do have some real stocking and a couple of garter belts but I sure would have loved to have hung on to one of my mom's girdles. The garters are from an era when I had a boyish figure :-)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 31, 2006, 05:29:12 PM
:rotfl:  But Skdadl your such a sweet dear, there is no longer a need for a garter belt. Stockings now have the wide elastic at the thigh to help them stay up.
They work, they really do; and if you should happen to have on a swishy skirt and do a swirl they don't look half bad either. Altho nothing looks quite as sexy as the garter.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 31, 2006, 05:33:53 PM
I've never been able to have the stay ups...stay up. No matter what weight I've been at.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 31, 2006, 05:36:55 PM
I want my girdle back! (http://www.corsetiere.net/Spirella/Girdles/Girdles.htm)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 31, 2006, 05:41:42 PM
I bought a pair of those, and they did NOT work, though they were definitely the proper size. I'm too curvy. Can one still buy garter belts? I remember buying stockings in Italy (by accident). Of course they have pantyhose, but I think stockings (calze) are seen as ... hmmm...  8)  8)  8)  8)  8)
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on December 31, 2006, 05:43:12 PM
geez a couple of those women would be considered obese by todays standards.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 31, 2006, 05:44:22 PM
Holy Shit, did you check out the Bullet Bras .... by Spirella.

How do you pee?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on December 31, 2006, 05:49:38 PM
:lol:

I forget, actually. Seriously, Toe, I do. We had panty girdles as well -- obviously, we had to peel those off every time. But I honestly can't remember what happened with the classic sheath ones.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 31, 2006, 05:56:12 PM
Gosh, Sheath. That is such a kind word for what looks like body armour? I mean if I was a gyu and finally got a woman down to her underthings I'd running screaming into the night, rather be faced with figuring out how to get the thing OFF!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: fern hill on December 31, 2006, 06:26:02 PM
I may have told this story before. If so, sorry.

I am probably one of very few women my age (54) who has worn a girdle. I was born in the fall and skipped a grade so I was a year-and-half, two years younger than my classmates. In Grade 8, I'd have been 11 at the start. A kid in the school had a family in the clothing biz. Somebody had the idea of staging a fashion show at school. So, the call went out and if you wanted to be a model, you had to show up in Room XX on some date, with a girdle and stockings. No shit.

I have no idea now what got into me. I was wild to do this. Of course I had the body of an 11-year-old, no tits, kinda chubby. Tubular. I told my mother I had to get a girdle. She thought it was silly, but I was relentless and wore her down. We went out to get one. Not a panty girdle. A sheath.

Brought it home and I tried it on. Unbelievable sensation. Like a boa constrictor's gotcha. It did interesting things to my tubular little body. My mother nearly herniated herself laughing.

I was still determined. I showed up on the day with girdle and stockings. So, I walked into Room XX and told them I'm there to try out for a model. They herniated themselves laughing.

So, it turns out that the try-on the day I got the silly thing was the first, last, and only time I've worn a girdle.

Everybody wore them. Well, the women at least. Even skinny women wore them. It was a matter of propriety. One did not want any jiggle.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Toedancer on December 31, 2006, 06:39:33 PM
Oh gawd fern, I'm dying here. Hey I remember those days. And I flunked grade 7 with a 55% that both my parents and educators decided was not good enuf to carry on to 8. So by the time I got into 9 (April baby) I was old. Flat chested, skinny and athletic. From 9-12 I noticed all the 'cool' girls wore those things, all. the. time. I saw in gym. Very weird. They got all the guys too. Not only did their bodies not jiggle, neither did their Annette Funicello hair. I laughed at them. I was way too sexy for them going commando even then.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: GDKitty on December 31, 2006, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: Debra
I've never been able to have the stay ups...stay up. No matter what weight I've been at.

Me neither, Debra. I gave up trying, as it was too distracting, constantly yanking them up (as discreetly & ladylike as possible, bien sur!  :shock: ). They have the potential to cause some downright cartoonish predicaments, in the same league as the guy with the faulty suspenders, always hitching-up his pantaloons :lol:
Hairy leg+pants or very opaque hose   :wink:
Current situation: moderate to heavy hairiness, with chance of flannel pyjamas later in the evening  :wink:
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on December 31, 2006, 07:01:12 PM
Quote from: Toedancer
:rotfl:  But Skdadl your such a sweet dear, there is no longer a need for a garter belt. Stockings now have the wide elastic at the thigh to help them stay up.
They work, they really do; and if you should happen to have on a swishy skirt and do a swirl they don't look half bad either. Altho nothing looks quite as sexy as the garter.


Now I know what you're thinking, bonesy.  (No, not "did he fire six shots ... ") "Gunny, dear ... are you taking notes?"

Honestly.  I think I should get to be the Groucho figure this year.  :groucho-marx:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: lagatta on December 31, 2006, 07:07:21 PM
gunnar, you are the Groucho figure of the century, after Julius und Brüder passed on the laurel.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on December 31, 2006, 10:26:55 PM
Quote from: gunnar gunnarson
Now I know what you're thinking, bonesy.  (No, not "did he fire six shots ... )

Sigh. Gunnar, gunnar, gunnar... are you completely unfamiliar with the expression "qui s'excuse, s'accuse"?

(hehehe... he said s'excuse...)

Quote from: lagatta
gunnar, you are the Groucho figure of the century, after Julius und Brüder passed on the laurel.


Sigh II. Always the side-kick, never the star...

Happy New Year, all!
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: sparqui on January 01, 2007, 04:01:16 AM
Luckily my kimono/yukata outfit was ankle length because the silk stocking, the real ones from the 50s from a retro shop, were too big. Unlike today's hose, those silk ones were formed and sized for your feet. I think I had on a pair of size 10s. The resulting look was elephant legs.

I tried those with the elastic tops before and they definitely slip down. As for those sheath girdle adverts, those sure bring back memories. Such full figured women as models! The obi/sash had a similar effect. 12 inch wide band tightly wound a couple of times around the waist over a tightened belt underneath. The outfit looked pretty damn authentic though. I was rather proud of my efforts.

So I was not the killer but I did have an evil streak. The night club featured exotic dancers, many of them illegal immigrant girls from Asia who's permits I forged. I had a mid-western farmer husband who didn't care about all my affairs in tinstle town but was dead set to stop the studio exec from ratting us out to the police (as he had threatened). In the end, we plotted to kill but someone else beat us to it.

It was a fun event, the game over in time to count in the New Year.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on January 01, 2007, 06:00:58 AM
Are you just now coming home, sparqui?  :shock:

That sounds like a lot of fun. I'm glad you got to have an evil streak, at least. And the husband sounds, ah, convenient.  :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: k'in on January 01, 2007, 09:38:28 AM
Quote
Stockings now have the wide elastic at the thigh to help them stay up.
They work, they really do;

Not convinced Toe---Maybe if one resides on one of the space shuttles that hasn’t yet  blown up/crashed, walks on one’s hands or has the foresight to purchase the requisite tourniquet accessory kit that is obviously needed to keep the things from defying Newton’s Law of Gravity.  Gave these things a test drive once on a day when I just happened to have both arms occupied.  Result-elephant ankles.  Sat down, kicked off the shoes and removed the useless leg coverings. Logic dictates if these things actually worked, women would not have endured centuries of girdles, garters and sundry gear that just “happen” to feature the stocking attachment thingies.  

Then there are "Scantihose" for those who feel compelled to exhibit their inner Lindsay Lohan/Paris Hilton.  The TV ads used to pop up at the oddest times---usually during coverage of "Question Period"-House of Commons. Coincidence?  I think not.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/sunsplashyorkie/images-1.jpg)
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Post by: skdadl on January 01, 2007, 09:44:36 AM
Oh, those things -- you mean the pantyhose with the open crotch? I've only once had a pair of those, and the trick for me was figuring out how to get them on. They dangle all over the place! Where to put the foot?  :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: skdadl on January 01, 2007, 02:23:05 PM
So yesterday I finally remembered -- I still hadn't turned off the water leading to the outside, and I had better do that soon or else.

I put this sort of thing off because I don't feel fully competent, and since I only do it twice a year, I never remember which of the little wheels I should be turning. I do remember that it is the counter-intuitive one, but there are a bunch of them in there, and every year I outsmart myself trying to figure out which is most counter-intuitive.

I do know that one of the little wheels, if turned, will turn off the water in the basement. So I finally chose a wheel, turned it off, and then went to check the water in the basement sink. Water flowed. Yay. Success.

Came upstairs, forgot about it for a while. Eventually needed a visit to the little room. Uh oh. No flushies. Sigh.

But it was late by then, and even if I don't have a bathtub, I do have alternative toilets, so I just went to bed. This morning, fall into shower without thinking, turn knob ... Uh oh. No shower. Sigh.

Return to complicated system of little wheels. Try the really weird one. Check basement water; still flowing. Return for shower; shower ok now.

So I think I succeeded. Go me. I suppose I could do the really rational thing and check outside to see that the water is off there. I could.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on January 01, 2007, 02:28:35 PM
For future reference and ease you could tag the correct wheel with a sharpie or a drop of nail polish
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Post by: fern hill on January 01, 2007, 02:29:36 PM
Quote from: skdadl
every year I outsmart myself trying to figure out which is most counter-intuitive.


:rotfl:

I do this too. Usually when I'm storing something odd. I say to self, 'I'll put this in a special place so I'll remember where I put it.' Then months later, or whenever, I clearly remember saying that to self, but not, of course, where I put it. Then I have to try to think like myself, which is kinda counter-intuitive too. 'What constitutes a "special place" to fern hill?' Drives me batty.
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on January 01, 2007, 02:55:55 PM
Quote from: fern hill
Then I have to try to think like myself, which is kinda counter-intuitive too. 'What constitutes a "special place" to fern hill?' Drives me batty.

but ... but ... but fern.  I always thought this was your special place.

Was I wrong?  :(
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on January 02, 2007, 03:14:28 PM
At the moment, a batch of home-made granola is slowly roasting in the oven.  After it has cooled, I'll add dried cranberries.  It's one of a few prezzies that I was getting together for my niece when life happened and my plans got derailed.  So now I can wrap some wee treats and give them to her before she returns to Montréal.  Yes, all of my Dad's grand-daughters are now in Montréal and it seems fitting, since his parents moved from there to Ottawa after WW1.
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Post by: Boom Boom on January 02, 2007, 03:19:53 PM
I made a batch of granola cookies last night, using brown sugar instead of honey, because I didn't have any. Still quite good - good for eating while listening to James Brown or the Stones on loud, man.  :stoner
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Post by: deBeauxOs on January 02, 2007, 03:55:25 PM
Recipe for maple granola.  4 cups of rolled oats (get the ones that are not too flattened, if possible), one half cup of each of the following raw nuts and seeds: sliced almonds, pepitas, sunflower, pecan and 1 quarter cup of sesame, hulled.  Combine in a pan that accomodates the mixture and allows you stir it, to make sure the mixture roasts evenly.  Dry-roast in a 300 degree oven, stirring every 10 minutes or so.  

Meanwhile, melt one quarter cup of salted butter and fork-blend with the same amount of sunflower oil, add one half cup of maple syrup or liquid honey and 1 teaspoon of real vanilla.  Remove pan from oven and pour/stir the mixture into the dry ingredients.  When well combined, return to oven to roast for another 40 minutes or so, again stirring occasionally.  Let cool and add 1 cup of dried sweetened cranberries or any mixture of dried fruits that you prefer, chopped into smaller pieces if you're using mango slices, for example.  Store in a dry, air-tight container in a cool place.  A couple of heaping tablespoons of this stuff in a bowl of yoghurt gives your day a good kick-off.
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Post by: anne cameron on January 02, 2007, 04:32:14 PM
I have wondered a few times "what it is" that makes me so totally DISinterested in grains and nuts.  From time to time some salted peanuts, some salted cashews, but otherwise, I'll pass.  And grains and lentils hardly ever figure into my menu plans.  There are some of them I absolutely cannot choke down, bulgar wheat comes to mind.  I'd sooner feed it to the hens, then eat the eggs.

My Sweetie has granola and yogurt for breakfast about half the time, toast and peanut butter the other half.  I seldom bother with breakfast, could maybe handle yogurt and fresh fruit salad but mostly not.

If I want, actively want, breakfast I want some heavy bulky probably totally unhealthy mountain of , say, omelet, pan fries, maybe a sausage or two.

I obeyed my mother, fed my kids home made granola, sent them off to school well fortified and with a protein rich snack, made sure they had a healthy lunch waiting for them when they arrived at mid-day...and usually didn't bother to eat anything myself until we all sat down to supper.

And so, OF COURSE, I'm hypoglycaemic.  BUT, so are two of my kids.

Oats in almost any form at all seem to me to be better suited to horses.  I could no more enjoy a bowl of oatmeal (it's guid for ye, hen, it sticks to yer ribs) (so would wallpaper paste, grandmither!) than I could enjoy a root canal.

I have even managed to almost convince myself that I cannot easily digest most grains and lentils.  But I think I could almost convince myself of a lot of bullshit things!
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Post by: Timebandit on January 02, 2007, 04:34:16 PM
Day of reckoning -- I'm doing the year-end accounting, and attempting to cobble together a reasonable budget for this year.  Involves analyzing last year's expenses, gestimating some of this year's and may, if the numbers don't jig the right way, involve divination of some sort by the light of the moon tonight.  

Fortunately I still have Christmas baking to sweeten the experience.
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Post by: peppermint on January 02, 2007, 06:08:34 PM
Spent the day in bed, but not nearly as much fun as that sounds. Companion was a bucket-  Having a stomach flu really, really sucks.

 On the bright side, I've learned that even combing my hair is unnecessary.   Crawled back into bed this AM with the towel still on my head.  Woke up some hours later to find relatively straight, non tangled hair :shock:
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Post by: sparqui on January 02, 2007, 07:56:19 PM
I hope you feel better soon peppermint. Do you have all the provisions you need on hand, like gingerale and broth?
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Post by: anne cameron on January 02, 2007, 07:57:23 PM
Oh god, my sympathies.  I had my flu shot, then I got the flu...it's always the other strain, isn't it... and it's a bitch this year, four days of ohmigawd.. but at least your hair's okay!  Keep the hair out of the bucket!
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Post by: suzette on January 03, 2007, 02:03:09 AM
Quote from: skdadl
I'm still contemplating that length -- 6' 8", you say?  :shock:
Yeah, and just as tall, too.  

And this is the guy whose two babies I'm carrying.  Nice planning there, eh?
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Post by: sparqui on January 03, 2007, 09:47:45 AM
suzette, I have heard that it's the size of the parental heads that you should worry about :-) Large hat size could result in a very painful birth...
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Post by: anne cameron on January 03, 2007, 10:07:15 AM
I'm pretty sure neither twin will be wearing a hat.  They don't usually even have shoes when they emerge.
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Post by: Debra on January 03, 2007, 10:10:55 AM
:rotfl:
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Post by: deBeauxOs on January 03, 2007, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: anne cameron
I'm pretty sure neither twin will be wearing a hat.  They don't usually even have shoes when they emerge.
 Now, now Anne - this is Down Under.  Things may be done differently there.   :shock:   Shoes ....?  No cowboy boots and spurs, I do hope.
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Post by: 'lance on January 03, 2007, 01:52:39 PM
In Australia? Standard issue is just tiny surfboards, I thought.

I'm sitting blearily through my second day following my second virtually sleepless night. They'll not recognize me at work, whenever I get back there.
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Post by: fern hill on January 03, 2007, 03:58:10 PM
I just finished wrassling 550 pages of Canadian history into a 15-page index. It needs a final proof tomorrow when my eyes uncross. I just poured myself a glass of plonk to celebrate.
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Post by: sparqui on January 03, 2007, 04:07:37 PM
Just finished five loads of laundry and two loads remain in the dryer. Once that's done, it's time to go pick up Smoke. Fearless has been doing his darnest to be super cute and pleasant (a plea for only "child" status I suspect)...

And of course, I can hear fern hill groaning and reaching for something stronger than plonk :whis:
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Post by: anne cameron on January 03, 2007, 04:42:20 PM
Have two glasses, Fern.  That sounds like what my grandma used to call "dogsbody work".
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Post by: Toedancer on January 03, 2007, 05:02:05 PM
I prepped dinner, creamy pesto and a garlic baguette with wee salad.
I've been delivered of a ThermaCare heatwrap smothered in Rub-A535 (sounds kinda dirty but isn't) and now have been delivered a glass of plonk to help with the relaxation for what Magoo suggested and he's correct.
A subluxated rib or something. Later I get a massage.

ETA - Christ I hope this doesn't lead to anything.
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Post by: suzette on January 04, 2007, 04:27:19 AM
Quote from: deBeauxOs
Quote from: anne cameron
I'm pretty sure neither twin will be wearing a hat.  They don't usually even have shoes when they emerge.
 Now, now Anne - this is Down Under.  Things may be done differently there.   :shock:   Shoes ....?  No cowboy boots and spurs, I do hope.
Heh... the growed ups don't wear shoes here, so I don't reckon the kiddies would, neither.
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Post by: Mandos on January 04, 2007, 07:49:36 AM
Monday was a great day to be a stray cat in Karachi, and maybe a crow or a pidgeon.  It was not a great day to be a vegan in Karachi, however, and it was definitely not a good day, as skdadl notes, to be a goat.  Or a cow, for that matter.

Most of what you can find in, say, Toronto, you can find in spades in Karachi, from museums to shopping to nightlife, etc, etc.  Of course, Karachi is firmly in the Third World, meaning that you find a lot more...breakdown.  However, it is *most* alien to a Westerner at Eid ul-Adha, when the streets quite literally run with goat blood.  (Ramadan and Eid-ul-Fitr is a party season and not different at all---best night life.)  1.5 million livestock, actually, slaughtered in the streets and on driveways and butchered there and then, mostly on the same day.

I witnessed one slaughter myself.  By and large, I woke up too late for most of them, as they are done in the wee hours of the morning.  Let's just say that the experience didn't at all make me into a vegetarian, but it was thought-provoking, and I did feel a little sorry for the poor cute little thing.  The other goats just stood there, placidly, chewing, waiting their turn...  It was over in maybe 90 second or less, and now I know the meaning of the phrase "death throes".  The most disturbing part wasn't the blood or the convulsions, it was the last attempts to breathe and the foregone hopelessness of the prospect.

A goat was offered to me to sacrifice the next morning, but I wriggled out of it by claiming that I needed my beauty sleep.   I hate getting my hands dirty.  Maybe I'm a hypocrite for not having experience killing my own meat, but whatever.

The first thing everyone seems to do with the animal is to fry up its fresh liver.  I don't really like liver.  The rest of the animal is pretty tasty.  Unfortunately, they leave the stomach by the side of the road.  These are picked up over the next day or two by city services, but in the neighbourhoods where the services get to later, it kind of starts smelling.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Mandos on January 04, 2007, 07:59:42 AM
On a less gory note, I *have* had some time for a little tourism.  I visited the Mohatta Palace, the residence of the late Fatima Jinnah, the daughter of the founder of Pakistan, M. A. Jinnah.  The Palace (it's really more of a mansion---not that large) is now a museum.  Fatima Jinnah was a notoriously eccentric character with some habits that are considered very strange here, including refusing to give her own butler the key to her apartments.  Every morning she threw the key down from her high balcony, Rapunzel-style, and he had to unlock the door himself after climbing up.  Things like that.

The museum was exhibiting priceless ceramics from the area, tiles and pottery, including some fascinating prehistoric archaeological finds from the Sindh province that surrounds the megalometropolis of Karachi.

The driving is hilariously frightening here.  The roads are good.  They have to be.  (The public transit is a disaster, nothing like equivalent cities like Mexico City or even relatively nearby Lahore or Delhi.)  Anyway, every driver believes that he/she is the most important driver on the planet.  And if he/she is a servant, then then the sahib/begum is the most important person around.  This is a metaphor for one of the main problems with the entire country.  "The rules apply to everyone *except* me.  Seriously."
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Post by: skdadl on January 04, 2007, 08:16:28 AM
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The first thing everyone seems to do with the animal is to fry up its fresh liver.


We always did that with the birds we got, especially the goose livers. They're only a bite each for two people, but they are luscious just lightly sautéed. I try not to think of the living bird as I eat, of course.

I think I would find the general slaughter difficult, though. I understand how people come to accept it, but I don't think I could any more. Better I just not look.
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Post by: lagatta on January 04, 2007, 11:10:00 AM
Yeah, we are hypocritical, in our sanitised world. And of course, the old Abraham story is an allusion to substituting animal for earlier human sacrifice.

As for me, I've been going through papers, closets etc but must go out and enjoy the unseasonal fine weather...
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Post by: Debra on January 04, 2007, 02:39:11 PM
just made treacle scones.

YUMMMY!
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Post by: anne cameron on January 04, 2007, 05:41:16 PM
If "treacle" is molasses do not put any aside for me.  I don't even use that stuff in my baked beans!
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Post by: Boom Boom on January 04, 2007, 05:58:27 PM
I, on the other hand, love molasses in baked beans.
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Post by: Herr Magoo on January 04, 2007, 06:43:58 PM
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to help with the relaxation for what Magoo suggested and he's correct.


A co-worker had the same thing about 3 weeks ago and told me about it.  Prior to that, if anyone had mentioned Subluxated Ribs I'd have asked for the recipe.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on January 04, 2007, 07:56:57 PM
Boom, you're just trying to wheedle an invitation to supper!
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Post by: Holly Stick on January 04, 2007, 07:58:19 PM
Yes, molasses in baked beans, or on hot biscuits.  And put a little in when you are making whipped cream to put on pumpkin pie.  It looks kind of yellow, but it tastes wonderful.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on January 04, 2007, 08:10:33 PM
Jeebus Crisp!  Muck up whipped cream with....
Wreck hot biscuits with....

I is shocked, shocked, I tell you, shocked.  And appalled.

I'm also looking out my window as daylight fades.  Fresh snow on the bluffs and hills, the tree cover right now looks dark blue, the sky is shades of blue deepening to gray with a broad band of peach colour out over the inlet.

We've been told the temperature is going to "plunge" tonight.  It's been right on the very verge of freezing all day so if it plunges we're all going to be skating tomorrow, we've had days of record-breaking monsoon, everything is either dripping, sodden, or squishy.  Today we had breaks in the drizzle, even had some sunshine, and now...plunge was the word they used.

FEK!  And we had a discussion today out in my front yard about how we were all going to try to STOP talking about the dam weather because no matter what we say it does whatever it wants.  As untrained and badly behaved as my dogs!

Someone in town is in a very bad mood and has made an official complaint at the village office.  The complaint concerns "Elmo" who is the mayors old dog.  Seems Elmo is "the leader of the pack", and steps must be taken forthwith.

I've never seen Elmo in his leather jacket and engineers boots but I bet he looks dam sharp on his Harley.  He drops by here about once a day just to wind up my three who have a fenced yard; largish, but fenced and they don't get to just run loose with "the pack".

Elmo is the leader of the pack.  The pack consists of a number of increasingly nasty rotti crosses, a couple of sort'a shepherdy mutts, and a kind'a husky looking cat killer.  If Elmo is the leader of the pack he must have one helluva personality because he's probably not twelve pounds soaking wet with a rock in his mouth.  He's a little poodlymutt mix with a jut-jaw so his bottom teeth peek out at you.  And he's leader of the pack.

Must have been the town clown made the complaint!!

Wait, what's this, is that Elmo coming up on his Harley?

Jeebus Crisp.  Wait'll they find out about Mz Irene Beazely.  she's the brains of the operation.
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on January 04, 2007, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: anne cameron
Boom, you're just trying to wheedle an invitation to supper!


Be a bit of a shlep, but bein' a bettin' man, I'd say it'll be worth it.   :eat
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Post by: Boom Boom on January 04, 2007, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: anne cameron
Boom, you're just trying to wheedle an invitation to supper!


I have an invitation?  :dog_wagging:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on January 04, 2007, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: Boom Boom
I have an invitation?
Nah - that Anne, she's just full of beans.  :D
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on January 04, 2007, 10:32:37 PM
Hang on, this is BnR. No pork-barrel politics, here.
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Post by: Boom Boom on January 04, 2007, 10:33:44 PM
:funky:
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Post by: deBeauxOs on January 04, 2007, 10:34:39 PM
Definitely not.  Pork-barrel?  Treyfe, fer sure.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: gunnar gunnarson on January 04, 2007, 10:42:47 PM
The magic word.  Bonesy, are you toying with me again?
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Post by: Boom Boom on January 04, 2007, 10:52:13 PM
:horse:
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: deBeauxOs on January 04, 2007, 10:52:55 PM
Quote from: gunnar gunnarson
Bonesy, are you toying with me again?
When do I not? (http://www.lafilleduperenoel.net/smilies/cat/sexy/sexy-lfdpn-001.gif)
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Post by: Boom Boom on January 04, 2007, 10:54:24 PM
:popcorn
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Post by: anne cameron on January 05, 2007, 01:43:01 AM
Are they trying to flog that dead horse to lead it to water and make it drink?

Or is that the dog, the hair of which bit...who?

Where?
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on January 05, 2007, 07:44:16 AM
I woke up with an excruciating pain in my neck, either I need a new pillow or I had frat boy blogosphere running through my dreams.

I can hardly move. Putting a wet warm towel on it and it seems to slow be loosening up.
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Post by: fern hill on January 05, 2007, 08:00:43 AM
Ooo, Debra, I resemble that. I used to have terrible neck pain with shooting headaches. Used to spend a ton of dough at chiropractor's. Then I bought one of those cervical (no, not that one) pillows, with raised edges. Obus, for one, makes a couple of kinds. They are expensive (40-50 bucks) but last a good while and I haven't been to the chiropractor since.
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Post by: skdadl on January 05, 2007, 08:17:30 AM
I don't have the special pillow, but for years I have been rolling my ordinary pillow up a bit to fit under my neck, which works for about half the night ...

Neck and shoulder, so vulnerable. I'm convinced it's because our heads are too big and heavy for our necks and spines. It was a mistake to learn to walk upright -- from a pain pov, that is.
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on January 05, 2007, 08:26:42 AM
Head too big (http://sounds.wavcentral.com/movies/axemurderer/orange.mp3)?
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Post by: skdadl on January 05, 2007, 08:42:46 AM
That's a huge noggin!  :D
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Post by: Holly Stick on January 05, 2007, 12:50:18 PM
I have a feather pillow on top of a small polyester one.  I can shape the feather one to my neck better, so I don't often get neck aches.
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Post by: sparqui on January 05, 2007, 12:54:34 PM
:rotfl:

gunnar, that scene is Mike Myers at his best  :lol:  

Lots of Hollywood actors have oversized heads -- they photograph well for some reason.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: anne cameron on January 05, 2007, 03:18:12 PM
And jaws and chins...have you noticed how many actors , particularly on TV, are very wide across the bottom jaw...the woman who stars in "Bones" is a good example...and what'shername from Alien is another, her bottom teeth seem to protrude past her top ones.  I guess that's, what, an underbite?  Opposite of buck-toothed, anyway.  There's a kid actor, little blond girl, Dakota something, had a bottom jaw which reminded me of a Boston terrier but I notice she's had "something" done, now, and has a more conventional bite.
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: Debra on January 05, 2007, 03:48:55 PM
I had a bit of rum and a bit of eggnog left from the season which shall remain nameless  :wink:

I've had a couple of small drinks to see if it will ease the pain.

Wonder how many I'll need before it actually works?  :drunk
Title: What are you doing?
Post by: 'lance on January 05, 2007, 04:31:44 PM
I just might follow your example, only with rye (and minus the egg nog). With me it's insomnia instead of neck pain -- four nights now. I'm struggling to have a more or less normal day, on the theory that if I sleep today I won't sleep tonight, perpetuating the cycle.

I suppose it's amounted to a sort of enforced holiday, the Christmas break not having been very restful, but I've had better. I don't think there'd have been much point trying to get to work this a.m. anyhow. We had a little snow overnight which resulted in icy hills, and so CBC radio was talking about a traffic jam involving 50 (!) buses on Granville Street.
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Post by: Herr Magoo on January 05, 2007, 04:47:51 PM
Adding egg nog to good liquor is like driving with the parking brake on.

As me fadder would say, "never spoil a million dollar drunk with a ten cent meal", and I'm afraid that eggs and milk come very close to being that meal.

If you want rapid effects, do what we used to do in university (the triple crown of quick buzzing):

1.  fast (ie: don't eat)
2.  give blood (this way you get two warm, fuzzy feelings)
3.  pop a cold pill (just remember to leave the steamroller in the garage, drunky, and no chainsaws either!)

Then go get drunk with ten bucks in your pocket.

Have fun.  Play safe.
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Post by: 'lance on January 05, 2007, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: Herr Magoo
Adding egg nog to good liquor is like driving with the parking brake on.


Agreed, though in my case the aversion has a lot to do with having gotten sick after drinking rum and eggnog (on top of beer and God alone knows what else) one Christmas Eve, back when I was 19.

Or to be accurate: one Christmas Day, after a Christmas Eve party at someone's house. I staggered downstairs, about as green as the tree, opened presents perfunctorily, staggered back upstairs to the bathroom, threw up, and then crawled into bed. After a minute or two, my mother came in and said, rather coldly, "Look, the other 364 days of the year you can do what you like, but on Christmas Day..." and I forget the rest. (Then she softened a bit and asked, not unkindly, what had happened, had I been drinking several different things, etc.).

So for me egg nog will likely always be associated not merely with nausea, but with humiliation.
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Post by: Debra on January 05, 2007, 05:13:57 PM
screw drivers one almost forgotten New Years's.

But as to parking brakes.. I have kids in the house and Mike's at work, parking brake is a must.
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Post by: Herr Magoo on January 05, 2007, 05:24:13 PM
I'm sure everyone who's ever drank has at least one drink that will always be associated with making the "Hucka-hucka" noises.  For me it's Southern Comfort.  No great loss, really.

I've heard that tequila's the worst for this; years later, even the smell can raise your bile if you've been sick on it.
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Post by: 'lance on January 05, 2007, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: Herr Magoo
I'm sure everyone who's ever drank has at least one drink that will always be associated with making the "Hucka-hucka" noises.  For me it's Southern Comfort.  No great loss, really.


Agreed II. Southern Comfort is one of those... I'll say products I just don't get.

Fortunately, my Christmas experience didn't turn me off rum drinks altogether. And come to think of it, egg nog would be OK if it were a good home-made version, less thick and sickly-sweet than the store-bought kind. But that stuff you buy in milk cartons -- sorry, not for me. Glurge, indeed.
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Post by: lagatta on January 05, 2007, 05:47:56 PM
I thought Southern Comfort http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Comfort (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Comfort) was invented for kids and others who have the idea that all drinks should be sweet and syrupy. And who don't know how various organs go into overload on a mix of hard alcohol and white sugar...

As for eggnog, every time I've had it I've regretted it, even if I didn't overindulge.

I did have a wee dram of rum at that no-name holiday, but it was fine Cuban rum, brought back by a friend.
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Post by: anne cameron on January 05, 2007, 06:04:59 PM
I am not convinced your pillow is at fault.  I think it's a virus.  I think this because a couple of weeks ago Em had the 'flu and gave it to me.  And after I'd crawled out from the hurling and spewing and the mad rushes to the throne, intestines roiling, I got the god damndest sore neck.  Told myself it was probably "stress".  Read several books I'd read before about stress, de-stressing, coping, you know, the stuff we all know we just need to be reminded we know it...didn't clear up the neck...stiff as a board, hurt like hell, lasted over a week, now it's moved into my right shoulder but my neck is fine.  Daughter got the flu, was two and a half days sick in bed, got up, she really seems to believe if you ignore it it will go away, she went back to work, she's home sick again, guess what, her neck and back are hurting like hell...

I don't know about the egg nog but the rum ought to put a shine on things.  How much will it take?  Probably enough to give you a headache tomorrow but that's tomorrow, and maybe it won't come.

"Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday and once again, everything is all right"...Bill Brown senior.
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Post by: Toedancer on January 05, 2007, 08:33:34 PM
I get that too Debra. What works for me is cold/hot, cold/hot over and f over again. That does work, if you have the patience.

I think I saw 2 dead cows in a field today, not sure next time I passed them I forgot to look. On walk saw lilacs putting forth green buds on trail, kind of distressing for me. If I am stuck here for another summer then I sure as hell don't want foilage set back and all f up. The lilacs line the trail and I love the spring there. I am suspicious about the frogs right now, don't think they are under the mud at all. I listen, but nothing yet.

I threatened to make turkey pot pie; now SO is making Mrs. Tierney's pastry.
 :lol:
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Post by: GDKitty on January 05, 2007, 08:49:16 PM
Quote from: Debra
I woke up with an excruciating pain in my neck, either I need a new pillow or I had frat boy blogosphere running through my dreams.
I can hardly move. Putting a wet warm towel on it and it seems to slow be loosening up.

I hope your neck is loosening up :(
My mother-in-law gave me one of those Obus neck pillows in the summertime. It helped a lot for a few months but it didn't solve the problem entirely. Nowadays I have neck pain ~2 days out of 5. I find I'm much less likely to have it if I happened to fall asleep straight away (the night before). Not so lucky if there's lots of fidgeting or trying to worry myself into a comfy position.
Never thought of the alkyhol tho... :idea:
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Post by: anne cameron on January 05, 2007, 08:50:08 PM
WAHOOOOO!!!

We got white shite from on high all last night and much of today, then it sort of feebled out into either a heavy mist or a measly drizzle.  And about half an hour ago Big Gertrude Hanson went into one of her hissy fits, slammed her fist against the side of my sardine can, WHOMP! and the fun has begun.

Lazy me had sort'a scraped a path across the deck to the steps, then cleaned them of white shite but the rain is coming down in absolute sheets, the snow has absorbed an incredible amount of it, the water was nearly ankle deep on the deck and I thought well, number one god knows what this weighs and I dont' want the deck to collapse and number two if it gets much deeper or higher it'll come in under the door.  So.  On with the raincoat, out with the shovel.

Gert, darlin', I"m too dam old for this!  Snow weighed so much I couldn't dare lift a shovelful, my back would have left home completely so I shoved rather than shoveled.  Gallons of trapped water.  Gallons of it.  Gert is having a total fit, nearly got blown off my feet twice, deck really isn't "clear" but if the fucker collapses, well, it collapses, I'm not standing out there trying to keep from being blown to Zeballos.  Dont' know anyone in Zeballos I could crash in with, I'd have to get a hotel room, can't afford that and when the wind dies down how would I get home...can't stay until Gert blows in the OTHER direction...

Gert is just a'howlin out there.  Rain lashing down in absolute solid walls of wet, I put the dogs out for a pee in their yard and two of them didn't want to leave the house...had to threaten to box Irene's ears to get her to go outside.  Cats are totally freaked out.  No idea where poor Corby is in all of this, I think she goes over to the neighbour's roofed porch/deck and sets herself up on a crossbeam. (then shits on the neighbours ramp)...

So that's what I've been doing.

Damn but this is our year for weather!
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Post by: Toedancer on January 05, 2007, 09:12:22 PM
But we were warned the coastals would feel the first brunt of climate change. We were. And everyone is going on and on here about Blue Mountain (which is NOT a mountain Anne) having to fire 1200 workers! Well sheesh we were WARNED. It is suppose to get cold and snowy by the middle of next week. Have a feeling it will just melt again.

Lord Anne, I am so sorry you don't have more help with white shite.
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Post by: Boom Boom on January 05, 2007, 11:05:21 PM
Most of the snow we've accumulated (not much) is melting, with rain tonight and tomorrow, and warmer weather Sunday. Monday night the temps go down again, and blowing snow predicted for Tuesday. Weird weather for us on Quebec's Lower North Shore. But I won't complain if winter passes us by.  :)
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Post by: Boom Boom on January 05, 2007, 11:09:03 PM
I've spent the last few hours going through the Amazon music catalogue (online) looking for old albums on CD. Found that most of them are available - Jerry Jeff Walker, Dion (in his folk singer role, and with the Belmonts), Tim Hardin, Harry Nilsson, Randy Newman, Ian and Sylvia, Murray McLaughlin, Fred Neil, Sly & Family Stone, Wilson Pickett, Temptations, Sam & Dave, James Brown, Sam Cooke, etc....
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Post by: sparqui on January 06, 2007, 01:36:26 AM
I just got back from a friend's 60th b-day party at the press club. I was kind of cranky getting there because hubby was taking his time not realizing that they intended to celebrate his birthday too -- a bit of a surprise. We are really bad at prairie hours. Seriously, everything here starts so much earlier than back in Ottawa or Toronto where we are used to doing dinners at 9:00 and parties at 10:00-11:00.

While outside having a ciggie with a friend, we were approached by a guy who zeroed in on my friend who is a real live wire. He was admiring her Dixie Chick t-shirt but then things got weird and ugly. He just kept staring at her breasts. She told him, "hey my eyes are up here!" He then asked her had she been drinking. WTF?!?! And that what's wrong with him admiring her rack. And he kept fucking going on. I told him to shut up and get lost as did my friend and he just kept lingering. The boss, his wife and son, my friend's boyfriend, my hubby -- all showed up and they kind of witnessed us telling the guy to move on.

It could have gotten uglier I guess if one of the men had decided to get aggressive. But I was still extremely bothered by how this stranger behaved. His asking her about whether she had been drinking and treating her so brazenly rude was UGLY. My friend happens to be Cree. Luckily, she is a very straight forward, suffer no fools type of person and I was by her side joining her in telling him to back off. But seriously, I wonder if that is the same mentality of the men who prey on so many Aboriginal women who have ended up dead.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on January 06, 2007, 01:46:45 AM
Quote from: sparqui
... But seriously, I wonder if that is the same mentality of the men who prey on so many Aboriginal women who have ended up dead.
IMO, yes.  I would say that such a mentality is like a contagious brain infection that has afflicted part of the population but that would be absolving these individuals from responsibility for their disgusting behaviour and attitude towards First Nations women, and men too.
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Post by: sparqui on January 06, 2007, 02:12:57 AM
Yes deBeauxOs. I think it was the first time I saw it in action in front of my own eyes and I was truly disturbed.
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Post by: skdadl on January 06, 2007, 05:57:19 AM
So good that you were there, sparqui -- and also that it ended before the guys intervened. I mean, it would always depend on how bad things were getting whether you'd finally want that, but mostly better not.

It is very disturbing, and it's hard to know where to put the anger, since we don't seem to be changing those attitudes very fast.
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Post by: Debra on January 06, 2007, 08:56:53 AM
Geezus. Glad it all turned out alright but frig where do they get the nerve?
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Post by: fern hill on January 06, 2007, 09:22:50 AM
This is silly, but that Bell telly ad with the beaver trying to chat up the woman bugs me every time I see it. OK, they're making fun of the male and the dumb stuff they generally say. But the woman looks so pained and yet she smiles and doesn't drop kick the little varmint. More of the 'be nice' brainwashing. Even in making fun of males, it reinforces the female stereotype.
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Post by: Debra on January 06, 2007, 09:30:20 AM
I hate that too.
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Post by: anne cameron on January 06, 2007, 10:23:11 AM
Do the guys who were at the party know the dweeb?  Might be time for them to have a little chat with him when things have cooled down and all are sober.

It's the silence of the "nice guys" which really offends me.  The arstles know full well that women detest their bullshit.  I think knowing that ads a little charge to their satisfaction when they behave so grottily.  Heh heh I'm saying poo poo pee pee bum bum and you can't do a thing about it heh heh said the nasty little man.

If the nice guys just stand there, embarrassed and so busy hoping nobody will think THEY would behave like that, and if they never stand up and say Hey, Lugan, you're out of line then it looks to all as if Lugan is speaking for the silent majority.

I have family who are First Nations.  This shite goes on all the time.  In "small" ways like calling my nephew "chief" all the time, to making snide cracks about welfare or "jokes" like Wanna hear a definition of pandemonium?  It's Fathers Day on the reserve har har...

And then "nice" people wonder why so few of my family feel very interested in "integration", and why "they stick together somethin' awful" and "must all be siamese twins, you never see'em alone".

A man everyone in town would consider a "really nice man" smiled at my darling Lilli, who is two years and four months old and said "Ah, there she is, the beautiful little Indian princess".  I'm sure he meant no conscious harm.  And I'm sure his feelings were hurt when Lilli's snarlybitch grandma said Indians are from India.  This is Lilli, she's not a Princess, she's a beautiful little girl.

I thought I was being very restrained, almost ladylike.  It's not that I want to go through life a snarlybitch, it's just that I flatout refuse to let the shite pour on the heads of my treasures without doing whatever I can to be an umbrella.  Big House teaches that a grandmother, until such time as her grandchildren are big enough and mature enough to speak for themselves, MUST at all times, speak for them.

Mind you, with my crew of grrrrrls, we get the other side of it, too.  Hallowe'en, everyone excited and gathered together to watch the fireworks and Emily, with her bag of goodies, going from one person to another, holding out the bag, mouth of the bag open, saying "would you like some, I've got lots.".  And an older man looked at her and said "Thank you, dear.", and took a candy.  She smiled and said "You're welcome, Grandpa.", and his eyes flooded with tears.  She moved on to someone else and he looked at me and said "She's so generous.  She's... perfect.".  And snarlybitch said "Yeah, she's a real Keeper, that one.".

My heartfelt hope is that if she ever encounters that Lugan, and he ever starts his routine, she'll simply kick him in the nuts, drop him to the ground and step on his fuckin' throat.

Beware, I'm about to brag...we were in Vancouver, heading for a chinese restaurant for a meal and some flasher intercepted us.  Daughters best friend said "christ, what's he up to" and daughter said "I think that's some kind of deformity or something.", and just kept on walking.

It's amazing how quickly it withers and droops.

Mind you, a flasher is nowhere near as dangerous as that Lugan was.  I just hope the nice guys start speaking up and letting the arstles know they are out of line and nobody appreciates it.
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on January 06, 2007, 10:31:50 AM
What's a fella to do, though?  If I speak up and tell the Lugan in question that he's out of line and being an arstle, isn't that being patronizing?  Doesn't it suggest that the woman being targeted by the arstle isn't capable of standing up for herself and telling him where to get off?  I've often had to struggle with finding the balance.

Is it a matter of timing?  Should I wait, as you suggest, till later when we're both sober, or should I confront arstlish behaviour when it's happening?
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Post by: fern hill on January 06, 2007, 11:08:51 AM
Yes, I think it is timing. I hate it when a guy leaps to my defense. Maybe a little eye contact between the woman and the good guy. Like, 'You got this handled?'

Usually I can handle things myself. But, lordylordy, sometimes a gal is just too tired.
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Post by: anne cameron on January 06, 2007, 11:17:19 AM
There's probably no hard and fast rule, Gunny, and I'm sure it's difficult for guys to know when and how to confront the arstles.  And I agree that it can seem and be patronizing to "defend" a woman but I think once the woman herself has said go away...especially if she's said it a couple of times...a guy is well within his rights to say something like Hey, you're making ALL men look bad with your bullshit...I'm not defending her but I am telling you what you're doing pisses ME off...

but I'd think that waiting until everyone is sober would be a smart move.

I've seen guys who were obviously very uncomfortable while some dork told really out of line jokes.  The nice guys didn't laugh at the jokes but they didn't say Hey, that's not the least bit funny in fact it's offensive...

and I know "mind your own business" is a hard one for everyone.  And one of the first things the lugans say... that and "I was only jokin'"...

Indirect attack might work...like if you say to the women "I'm really offended by his behaviour, I think he's totally out of line", and then move to sort of put yourself between him and them...and keep talking to them... and listening to them...and sort of just moving them away from Arstle Pete, isolating him from the group...

But I guess each situation is different and there can't be a hard and fast rule.

I once had a conversation with my son during which he said he knew very well why a woman would cross the street when she saw him coming, and how it made him feel he wanted to call out "I'm not like that, you dont' have to worry about me" but didn't because just the sound of his voice would scare her more...and both my sons have talked about how they feel when they hear a report of a woman being assaulted and raped.  They've both said it makes them feel almost ashamed.

It's a harsh world, eh.  Made less so by the presence of nice guys who are willing to listen and who recognize the ugliness for what it really is.  

Sometimes I look at little boys, four or five'ish, you know, when they're still jolly and friendly and quick to give or welcome cuddles and I can't help but wonder WHAT it is that can all too soon turn them into turds.

I do find that just asking the asshat "how would your mom feel if she saw you behaving like this?" works really well.
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Post by: fern hill on January 06, 2007, 11:22:25 AM
Quote from: anne cameron
I once had a conversation with my son during which he said he knew very well why a woman would cross the street when she saw him coming, and how it made him feel he wanted to call out "I'm not like that, you dont' have to worry about me" but didn't because just the sound of his voice would scare her more.


The men I know best will cross a street to avoid following a lone woman. They don't want to scare her. And, yeah, they don't like having to do it.
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Post by: Mandos on January 06, 2007, 02:20:41 PM
I am now in Chennai/Madras, India.  If I thought that Karachi was Gosford Park, well...

So I am surrounded by an entire army of servants, but things have a more Great Expectations feel.  As in, Miss Havisham.  If I had to choose between my own apartment, sans servants, and an army of servants waiting on me hand and foot but the overall dilapidation of this ancient and ill-maintained home in which I am living, I would probably choose my apartment.  My Karachi relatives are all first and second generation immigrants in Pakistan, and this is where they come from.  My father grew up here, my mother in Karachi.  My mother, the implacable Pakistani nationalist, is having fun sneering at India.

And frankly, the image you get in the media is overrated in some ways.  Chennai and Karachi are not all that different.  They drive better here, but South Indians are far more orderly than Pakistanis and North Indians.  "The wild wild North," says my uncle.  Of course, the signs are all in English and Tamil rather than English and Urdu.  My mother laments that neither her husband nor her children have really ever known what it is to be in possession of a country, for all the wealth and privilege in which my father grew up.  Because my family here does not speak Tamil except to communicate with the servants.  Otherwise, they speak English and Urdu---they have been immigrants for centuries.  Lordly immigrants, but immigrants.  Bad, yokelish Urdu, according to my mother, whose parents put in a lot of effort to ensure that their daughter didn't inherit the Madrassi Urdu.

Anyway, no one seems to know what to do with the Madrassi legacies.  They're worth a lot of money, apparently, especially if they are converted into office towers and rented out.  However, any attempt to do anything with them automatically leads down a path of litigation, feud, etc, etc.  So they sit and crumble.  This house is gigantic and must be centuries old.  It's close to the heart of the city.

My grandfather is famous here and built many institutions, some of which are still standing.  I am the eldest son of the eldest son, and then makes people gawk at me when I'm introduced. (In Pakistan I'm the eldest grandchild of my well-known maternal grandfather, who had no sons anyway, so I get this in both places.) But it's my brother who loves this place a lot more than me.  I don't mind an occasional visit, but I'm too much of a creature of habit to adjust to life in India on a steadier basis, I think.
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Post by: fern hill on January 06, 2007, 03:30:15 PM
Wow. There's a butterfly or moth in sweetie's studio. It looks just hatched or whatever the proper term is. Just sitting on the floor.
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Post by: Toedancer on January 06, 2007, 03:50:04 PM
Oh Mandos sounds positively exotic. Keep bringing us more news.

Okay I've just come in from my walk. I am very pissed. Because I can't seem to find a bird rescue and rehab place around. There is one lonely Canada Goose with a very bad injury. His one leg is dangling and he can't put any weight on it whatsoever. I called Oz away because she was getting too close and the goose was honking it's head off. He flapped his wings but did not fly, so I don't think he can. He is now sitting in a perch position by the river all by his lonesome.

I have just sent an e-mail to a naturalist to see if he knows of anybody who would come and rescue him. Also there is a little jerk bombing around on his ATV and I am watching very closely. If he goes anywhere near that spot I will go out and knock his block off!
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Post by: sparqui on January 06, 2007, 04:46:45 PM
Mandos travel entries remind me of how much I miss being far, far away from here. What a lovely sighting for you fern.

Interesting follow-up discussion based on the incident. Just to clarify, the creep was a total stranger -- just passing by and stopping to comment on the Dixie Chick tour t-shirt. He even chatted briefly about how cool it was that they stood up to Bush and he hated Bush and blah blah blah. At some point my friend told him to stop staring at her tits and that's when it all got weird because he could have just apologized and looked at her in the eye. When the others approached, including three males from our party, C and I were telling him to keep moving in less than polite terms. I do think one of the guys said something like, "you heard her, keep moving" or "you crossed the line buddy" or both. I know that I was focused on his paper bagged bottle because I figured that in my mind's eye that I would grab it and hit him over the head with it if he didn't get lost. (Probably not a great idea...)

C was doing a damn fine job being very straight forward and justifiably angered. Should the men have been more strident in coming to her defense? Yes and no -- hard to say. Downtown Winnipeg is a fairly violent place and lots of outdoor club altercations have led to assaults and murder. For me, I was both disturbed by the sexist and racist behavior. The creep never once looked at me or referred to me at all -- even when I told him that he was well out of order and to get lost. He is some psycho way thought that he was connecting with a drunk Aboriginal woman and that presumption was horrifying. (The guys in our group didn't witness that -- they just caught the tail end of his refusing to budge when we told him to get lost.)

ETA: Toe I hope you get some help in rescuing the bird :-(
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Post by: anne cameron on January 06, 2007, 07:47:08 PM
I'm not sure, but I don't think I've ever seen a honker just lift up and fly away, as robins or even crows can do.  What I've seen of honkers they sort of take a run, wings flapping, and I think it usually takes five or six running steps for them to gain air.  If your honker has a smashed leg she won't be able to run...and just as well because how would she land?

Take a big towel, just walk up to her and drop it over her, so you can pin her wings.  She'll make hell's own noise.  You can tuck her under one arm, then just grab her head with your other hand, otherwise she can poke your face.  They don't really "bite" hard, but they can nip.

Keep her confined, she'll probably just crouch down and honk until you feel as if your brain is dripping out your ears. But geese are not stupid, and a good way to get her eating is to hold out, say, a piece of bread, and kind'a wiggle it.  She'll strike at it, nip at it and then she's got it in her mouth and can taste it...she'll learn surprisingly fast.

And remember to keep praying that you can find an animal rescue centre otherwise come springtime you're going to have a goose family, which is fun, and the little green babies are cute balls of fluff and it's all very wonderful except they either don't leave in the autumn or if they leave they come back and then they nest and there you are up to your ear holes in goose poop.

This is the sad voice of experience.  Even wrote a kid's book "Gumboot Geese" about our first experience with honkers.  Which, in turn, led to many other experiences with visiting hokers, wounded honkers, curious honkers and grandchildren of honkers.....


(edited because I wrote winks instead of wings)
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Post by: Toedancer on January 06, 2007, 08:08:43 PM
Indeed I thought about the flying later. I am going to leave him there until Monday. I know how resilient geese are. If he continues to hang here then I will consider grabbing him, but oh lord, then I have to fix his leg.

I simply cannot believe with so much water/hills/fields/animals/birds etc., around here there is no listing for a sanctuary/rehab. But perhaps funding is the problem. Meantime I'll keep my eye on him.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on January 07, 2007, 07:09:32 PM
I've just finished adapting the dialogue from the Romeo & Juliet balcony scene for some friends' theatre troupe.  They are doing a staging of this, and other short plays, for a Valentine's Day performance.  They want to do the balcony scene as a comic quiproquo, with the dialogue scrambled up at cross-purpose, two actors reading, two miming the action.  It should be a lively performance.
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Post by: sparqui on January 07, 2007, 07:49:46 PM
That sounds like fun deBeauxOs!

Thoroughly enjoyed listening to Margaret Atwood on Writers and Company. I just adore her and her sense of humour makes me laugh out very loudly.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on January 07, 2007, 07:56:54 PM
Margaret Atwood's wittiness has a droll and dry edge indeed.  She is interesting too, as a public speaker and reader of her own prose.
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Post by: sparqui on January 07, 2007, 08:16:34 PM
She was scathing of the Harper government in her usual "droll and dry edge" as you so well describe it deBeauxOs. I could listen to her for hours and love hearing her read her own works.
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Post by: Mandos on January 08, 2007, 01:02:29 AM
Oddly enough, most of the food I've eaten here has been quite bland.  Meaning, not hot.  I figured out why.  The people here think that we are wimpy Canadians and not capable of handling the spice levels they serve here.  So they tell the servants to tone everything down.  At every household we visit, in fact.  We've been telling them to stop, and they still are not believing us that we eat hot hot food at home in Canada.  So the spice levels have only inched up slightly.

I wonder what they think we eat.  Crumpets all day or something?
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Post by: skdadl on January 08, 2007, 04:52:15 AM
Roast beef and mashed potatoes. Tapioca pudding. Mushy peas. Memories of England -- ah.
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Post by: lagatta on January 08, 2007, 04:55:57 AM
Yes, but the most popular British dish is now chicken tikka masala (yes Mandos, I know that is not a real Indian or Pakistani dish; it is a British creation).

Same in Netherlands; their food is as bland and stodgy as British food, but they have the culinary contribution of the former "East Indies" aka the many parts of Indonesia, of Surinam etc.
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Post by: skdadl on January 08, 2007, 05:06:33 AM
Actually, the British had taken a lot of culinary ideas back home from the Raj  even before the large waves of immigration in the mid-C20. I think of mulligatawny, eg, or many condiments, chutneys, etc. -- many of them anglicized, of course, but the influence was obvious.
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Post by: Mandos on January 08, 2007, 07:55:52 AM
I had actual chicken tikkas in Karachi, as opposed to chicken tikka masala.  However, my mother says that they are not the same as when she was young.  They were very good anyway.

One dish that I *thought* was an invention but have been since told is NOT a foreign creation is the ubiquitious-in-Indian-restaurants "butter chicken".  A Punjabi cow-orker told me that they do, in fact, eat butter chicken in Punjab.  I had been going around thinking that it was a fake dish because no family member had ever made it.  I never saw anything like it in Karachi and no one there knows that it exists except in Indian restaurants in the West.  But apparently it's authentic---or at least my Punjabi acquiantance seemed to be telling me so.  Go figure.
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Post by: Mandos on January 08, 2007, 08:03:42 AM
One of the biggest differences between Karachi and Madras, factoring out the language and religion, is the overall behaviour of the people.  I have to say, but a lot of Madrassis, particularly *but not only* the servant classes come of as extremely...obsequious compared to Karachites.  The servants in Karachi had a force of presence that Madrassi servants do not.  Despite probably being poorer, they were entitled to some courtesies that Madrassi servants don't seem to be entitled.  It was permissible to socialize with them in ways that would be considered treating them above their station here.

But it doesn't only seem to be servants.  I was visiting one of my grandparents' institutions.  My father decided to meet one of the accounting staff there, a professional.  And he too came off as, well, servile, despite definitely not being part of the servant class.

Madras is run much better than Karachi, and as I said everyone here is probably at least a little bit wealthier in real terms than in Karachi.  But the class barriers are stronger here.  Maybe it's just because the family is more rooted here and commands that kind of servility.  Certainly my relatives walk about with a swagger that no one else seems to walk here. But I suspect it is a more general cultural difference between Pakistan and India.
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Post by: skdadl on January 08, 2007, 08:09:56 AM
To me, "madras" immediately summons up these images. (http://www.dann-online.com/summer_madras_.htm)
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Post by: Mandos on January 08, 2007, 08:20:57 AM
I've heard of that, and I think that's pronounced "MADras", or so it is on Old Navy ads on TV.  This city is correctly pronounced "madRAS".  But now with Tamil reassertion over the 2-3 cultures that have attempted to dominate it, it is now correctly pronounced "CHENnai".

The old Madras still exists in the Muslim community here, but to what extent is still a matter of debate.  Tamil nationalism has, over the period of Indian independence, largely left Muslim life unmolested in Chennai, as it has had bigger fish to fry with the ideologies predominant in Delhi.  This is markedly better than other parts of India, particularly in the North, where Muslim life exists frequently under considerable duress.  My grandparents had a hand in many institutions here designed to protect the Muslim presence and identity in the city, and they still exist and have even thrived, thank God kept at a bit of a distance from family politics.  But there is still a kind of hollowing out, depending on who you ask.
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Post by: anne cameron on January 08, 2007, 11:34:47 AM
Does it feel "odd" at all, Mandos?  When I went to England to visit relatives I felt very much "odd"; here were these people and, yes, the family resemblances were strong, the accent didn't throw me because my Grandma not only didn't lose hers, it got deeper the longer she was in Canada.  I was very well treated, people were friendly, even affectionate immediately, and I felt as if I was on the back side of the moon trying to establish contact with methane breathers.

In Bolton we were walking down the street, myself and a couple of Aunties and some cousins, all female, and I looked, really looked at the place and thought Keeeeeee-rist!  No wonder they left!

That made me burrow into my head and try to imagine what my Grandma's reaction was when she arrived on this Island.  Mile after mile after more miles of evergreen forest...and she never did lose her wonder that her kids could go fishing in any river and not be arrested for poaching the Lairds' fish...each venison roast she cooked was sure to be the reason for an "I remember when..."....  she went back "to't'auld country" several times, my grandfather said he wouldn't waste the money, he'd left for good reason and wouldn't return for anything.  He was okay about my uncle volunteering for the army, he'd heard what had happened to trade union people but he sometimes made wry cracks about sending troops to defend the very ones workers had needed to be defended FROM in his day.

And what I saw in that crowded, dark, totally uninviting street in Bolton seemed in no way connected to the stories of their life prior to coming here.

I was very aware of the differences between my life and the lives of my rellies.  It was a very odd feeling.  I'm not sure , now, what it was I had expected I would find there.

But I remember the feeling when we got home!  I could have cuddled every rock.
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Post by: lagatta on January 08, 2007, 12:32:30 PM
I don't enjoy family visits period, except for a couple of rellies I'm closer to. Sort of like business meetings, but more humiliating.

On the contrary though, returning here from the city where I'd studied in Italy almost 20 years earlier, I felt a horrible disconnect. Everything seemed ugly, as if I'd been plonked down in some hideous anonymous town in the Middle West. But I'd been visiting lefties, not family, and was in a beautiful medieval city, atop a small mountain (or very high hill, higher than Mont-Royal, in any event).

I did really get a sense of why people emigrated en masse from Italy one time when I was down in Calabria, the toe of the boot. It was nowhere near as poor as it was 50 or 100 years earlier, and a lot of returning emigrants from the Americas and northern Europe had build rather pretentious dwellings that looked a bit like our fake Italian jobs. But the social structure was stifling, and there was a lack of public services (good public transport between towns, quality health care) that one took for granted in Umbria, where I studied. Clientelism was rife; for example one friend's father down in Calabria had to work half the year off the books (he was a building worker) with a much-reduced pension as a result.
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Post by: Boom Boom on January 08, 2007, 01:26:23 PM
Quote from: Herr Magoo
Adding egg nog to good liquor is like driving with the parking brake on.


Heh. I hate eggnog, never did see what the attraction to this horrid confection is. Wouldn't eggnog be high in cholesterol, besides?
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Post by: skdadl on January 08, 2007, 01:28:36 PM
Oh, I don't agree. The liquor to add to the eggnog is rum, and rummy eggnog is superb -- not as any kind of regular tipple, but as an occasional treat. It's like eating ice cream, really.
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Post by: Debra on January 08, 2007, 01:36:50 PM
exactly!

I was at my new family doctor for the first time today.

She is wonderful. I'm so happy.
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Post by: Mandos on January 08, 2007, 01:45:58 PM
anne and lagatta: My relationship to these places is somewhat complicated, as you might imagine.  I cannot discern the reason why my parents left, and indeed when I was younger, and even still, there's always been talk of going back.  I'm glad it never happened, because I honestly often feel like a fish out of water, especially since I don't speak Urdu very well.  There isn't a lot of overlap between the interests of my Pakistani relatives and myself.  Not to sound too condescending, I guess, but they're the upper class politically-connected Pakistani equivalent of Regular Joes.  Talk of artificial intelligence, cognitive science, and so on flies completely over their heads.   My Indian relatives are a lot more academic and interested in the things I'm interested in---except anything that remotely involves art and aesthetics, which they have completely transcended.   Well, some of them.

But at the same time, these are still my people.  Pakistan is the only place in the world where I am part of the majority in most of the characteristic of my background aside from class background.  India is where the family history and legacies are, legacies that can't and shouldn't be ignored.   My parents made no effort to separate me from them, except by geography.  Quite the contrary.  As a small nation inside other nations, we have a surprisingly heavy footprint in the world, and if I pursue anything of note in life there's no way that what I do wouldn't be a part of that footprint whether I like it or not.  

So my current feeling is, I don't think I want to live here, but I'm glad it exists, even if I may not always enjoy the obligations it entails.  Or, maybe, I'd be poorer for it if I weren't connected to it.
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Post by: skdadl on January 08, 2007, 01:46:25 PM
Yay!

That is such good news, Debra. Also unusual news.   :wink:
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Post by: Mandos on January 08, 2007, 01:52:00 PM
As for egg nog, one regret I have is that when I get back, egg nog season is going to be completely over, that is, not even the cheap post-Christmas stuff will be around.  I love egg nog.
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Post by: skdadl on January 08, 2007, 01:57:19 PM
Make your own egg nog. (http://www.epicurious.com/drinking/drink_views/views/201146)
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Post by: deBeauxOs on January 08, 2007, 02:28:56 PM
Is eggnog treyfe?  It can't be kosher .... combining dairy and poultry?
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Post by: Debra on January 08, 2007, 02:34:25 PM
egg is poultry?
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Post by: deBeauxOs on January 08, 2007, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: Debra
egg is poultry?
Clucking fowl is it not?
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Post by: Debra on January 08, 2007, 02:46:14 PM
I've always thought of it as dairy, I suppose because that where the eggs are kept.

But I suppose it is a fowl in training.
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Post by: anne cameron on January 08, 2007, 04:09:29 PM
If it was a fertlized egg you're scoffing an abortion.  Don't know what it is if it's not fertilized...?

Egg nog , minus the spirits of course, was what Annie made for us when we were sick.  That's how we knew we were REAL sick!
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Post by: 'lance on January 08, 2007, 04:45:00 PM
Quote from: deBeauxOs
Is eggnog treyfe?  It can't be kosher .... combining dairy and poultry?


According to this page (http://www.jewishrecipes.org/jewish-foods/eggs.html), eggs are kosher if they're from kosher animals; and are parve, so can be combined either with dairy or meat (but not both, of course).

So eggnog is kosher if the milk and eggs are. As for spices, cinnamon and vanila are kosher (http://www.jewishrecipes.org/spices/index.html). What else would be in egg nog? I haven't had it in donkey's years.

(I suspect donkey is treyfe -- neither cloven hooves, nor cud).

ETA, re: constituents of egg nog: I didn't notice skdadl's link, before. I know there are kosher wines; perhaps there are kosher spirits, as well.
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on January 08, 2007, 04:50:16 PM
Lard, give me strength ...
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Post by: 'lance on January 08, 2007, 04:51:20 PM
What, gunnar? You don't feel like chewing the fat today?
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on January 08, 2007, 04:56:14 PM
As ye sow, 'lance ...
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Post by: 'lance on January 08, 2007, 05:34:35 PM
Indeed. Get to the roots of the matter, say I.
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Post by: skdadl on January 08, 2007, 05:36:53 PM
Just trotting off for the evening. 'night, all.
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Post by: Croghan27 on January 08, 2007, 05:54:17 PM
Night skdadl - talk to ya tomorrow ..

now the question:

Have anyone ever nogged anything besides an egg?
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Post by: deBeauxOs on January 08, 2007, 06:27:16 PM
Weeeeell ... I'll admit to enjoying some interludes of snogging (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/snogging) over the years, but certainly never with a bad egg.   :wink:
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Post by: Croghan27 on January 08, 2007, 07:04:53 PM
Quote from: deBeauxOs
Weeeeell ... I'll admit to enjoying some interludes of snogging (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/snogging) over the years, but certainly never with a bad egg.   :wink:


Snogging is good      :hug

come to think of it - I would much rather be snogged than nogged! (no matter what it means)
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Post by: on January 08, 2007, 09:28:11 PM
I'm working on fucking union work. Lots of paper and documentation and shit. This is going to keep me insanely busy for two weeks at least. How come unions get away with making people work for free? Oh yea, that's right, I volunteered. grumble, grumble.
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Post by: sparqui on January 09, 2007, 12:13:47 AM
It seems that my gig as a glorified note-taker is going to the boss' son afterall but I get to attend high level day long negotiation meetings for the next three days while he's overseas on vacation. That means transcribing notes all weekend I imagine.

I'm also fretting about traveling next week -- being away from my sickly cat. The upside is that a close friend who is like my sister and who has been dragged to these family reunions a number of times will be joining us in Halifax. Woohoo!

(I need to get up at 6:30 and I'm nowhere near tired enough to sleep...)
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Post by: Caissa on January 09, 2007, 10:02:46 AM
Back to work after a two week vacation and the Committee meeting already. When I worked at Mount Allison, I kid you not, they a committee entitled the Committee on Committees.
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Post by: Toedancer on January 09, 2007, 10:10:04 AM
Just got back from docs. Husband definitely has pneumonia again.  :(
I pray the meds work and no hospital/oxygen, whole nine yards.

Just now on cbc I heard Keith Boag say "Elizabeth playmate" then he said oh I just said 'elizabeth playmake" and the interviewer helped him out by saying the plays elizabeth may makes. They were discussing layton/may environment.
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Post by: Debra on January 09, 2007, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: Caissa
Back to work after a two week vacation and the Committee meeting already. When I worked at Mount Allison, I kid you not, they a committee entitled the Committee on Committees.


Did they come up with that title by Committee?  :wink:
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Post by: GDKitty on January 09, 2007, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: Toedancer
Just got back from docs. Husband definitely has pneumonia again.  :(
I pray the meds work and no hospital/oxygen, whole nine yards.
Good luck, Toe!  I hope he feels better really soon :cry:
Quote from: Toedancer
Just now on cbc I heard Keith Boag say "Elizabeth playmate" ...

 :shock: don't tell K-Dough/PB-boys
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Post by: Debra on January 09, 2007, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: Toedancer
Just got back from docs. Husband definitely has pneumonia again.  :(
I pray the meds work and no hospital/oxygen, whole nine yards.

Oh I hope the meds work quickly.  :hug

Quote
Just now on cbc I heard Keith Boag say "Elizabeth playmate" then he said oh I just said 'elizabeth playmake" and the interviewer helped him out by saying the plays elizabeth may makes. They were discussing layton/may environment.


WTF!
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Post by: fern hill on January 09, 2007, 10:22:57 AM
Fingers crossed (well, metaphorically, hard to type otherwise) for you guys, Toe.

I'm proofreading a writing manual for advanced ESL students. Every time I do something like this I am struck again with gratitude that I didn't have to learn this squirrelly language.
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Post by: Berlynn on January 09, 2007, 10:37:17 AM
I'll proofread your ESL manual, fernhill, if you'll write the eulogy I'm supposed to be working on...I know English, oh, but I guess that won't work, huh? :oops:
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Post by: Nikita on January 09, 2007, 10:54:46 AM
Right now I'm drinking cup after cup of ginger tea, hoping to get rid of this naggy cold-cough thing I've had for the last week.  My lovely desk mate says the smell of the tea doesn't bother her, but I think she's just being nice.  Me, I like the pungency but I know many people do not.  I like holding the cup up to my face so I can breathe as much in as I can.  I'm pretty sure I look weird.  :)
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Post by: skdadl on January 09, 2007, 11:00:05 AM
Sorry to hear about the pneumonia, Toe. I know that routine. But the antibiotics should pull him back quickly. There are some good drugs.

I'm thinking about making a phone call. Perhaps I'll read instead.
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Post by: anne cameron on January 09, 2007, 11:32:19 AM
Well, if I worked where you work, Nikita, I'd probably be perched on your lap, I LOVE the smell of ginger.  HATE cloves.
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Post by: Herr Magoo on January 09, 2007, 11:36:53 AM
Legend has it that in the grand old days of Chinese dynasties, servants and other courtiers were required to have a mouthful of cloves when speaking to the Emperor.
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Post by: skdadl on January 09, 2007, 11:43:50 AM
How terrible. Cloves smell wonderful, or at least to me they do, but they taste like anaesthetic -- in fact, they are an anaesthetic. We used to use oil of cloves as an emergency toothache remedy -- for some reason, that was stopped -- there may be a health hazard, eckshully. But try it -- put a few cloves on your tongue -- it will start to go numb.
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Post by: Mandos on January 09, 2007, 02:06:02 PM
Today after dinner, someone brought out a "paan" tray. Paan is an after-dinner thing involving a "beetlenut" leaf, cloves, and some other ingredients which are wrapped up in the leaf.  Unless it's a sweet paan (which includes some sugary stuff to make it sweet but is still full of these other herbs), it is extremely astringent and leaves your mouth numb.  I don't know why it's such a tradition here.  I just chewed on the leaf, and every glass of water I drink revives the astringency.
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Post by: lagatta on January 09, 2007, 02:09:01 PM
skdadl, why is oil of cloves a health hazard? I've never heard that.
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Post by: anne cameron on January 09, 2007, 02:16:48 PM
It may well be I detest cloves because the very first dentist I ever encountered, when I was six , was a butcher who I think hated kids and gave my mom and earful for taking me in for a checkup when there was "obviously" nothing wrong with my teeth...a fact he established by poking around in my mouth with his clove-impregnated fingers.  I nearly gagged and he told me I was a "wretched child".  When we left we had to go down a very steep and very long staircase and I apparantly, (or so the family legend goes) told my mom I hoped he tripped and fell down them.
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Post by: skdadl on January 09, 2007, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: lagatta
skdadl, why is oil of cloves a health hazard? I've never heard that.


I don't know, and I suppose we should research this. I don't know that cloves are actually a hazard -- but there was a time when dentists and pharmacists encouraged us to use oil of cloves, and then suddenly they stopped and told us not to. I don't know why.
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Post by: sparqui on January 09, 2007, 07:32:01 PM
Interesting about the cloves. I do love the smell of cloves, nutmeg and cinammon on the boil -- and the scent does linger.

So sorry that your husband is ill Toedancer. I hope the meds work right away and that it doesn't linger.

I learned more than I ever wanted to know about limited partnership agreements. It was interesting to see lawyers from different sides battle out the minute details ever so calmly and professionally.
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Post by: 'lance on January 09, 2007, 08:55:06 PM
I would (seriously) be interested in talking about cloves, and even about limited partnership agreements -- but meanwhile, grumph. Grumph, I say! I'm slowly cooling out after telling off some kid on the bus, probably for the first time in my adult life.

Two fifteen-year-old boys were sitting across from me, unwrapping DVD movies they'd bought. Fine -- but the one doing most of the unwrapping was not only putting all the wrappers on the floor, but peeling off every price tag and other sticker he could, which seemed to be about fifteen or twenty, and plastering them on the barrier in front of him. And laughing.

This bothered me, maybe to an unreasonable degree (see below), but anyway for a reason. You just get tired of people treating public spaces like shit.

I decided to say something -- but what? Maybe "You realize some poor slob [or even "some poor slob like you"] will have to scrape that off later, don't you?" Nah -- too polite, too trusting of this kid's "better nature." (In truth, looking back on it, he and his buddy struck me as totally harmless types, just self-absorbed and thoughtless. I would say "like most teenagers," but really, when you get down to cases, are most adults different in more than style?).

Then the bus went around a curve, lost power and went dark (it was a trolley), and so I had a couple of minutes to think of something better. And to stew -- it was building up to the extent that I knew I had to say something and get out of there forthwith, even though it meant a 15-minute walk home, rather than being dropped off practically at my front door.

But the best I could do -- after the driver had fixed his poles and got back on, and got the lights back on -- was to glare as best I could and snap "Looks like you're used to having someone clean up after you." I'd previously thought of throwing in "punk" or even "punk-ass" after this -- something told me he'd have regarded the first as an insult, and the second as a serious insult -- but I wanted to take the high road, and not come off an old fogey. And besides, in my blind fury, not to say nervousness, I didn't think of it.

The kid looked down, possibly abashed but more likely snickering, and the effect was spoiled in any case when I couldn't get off immediately. The bus had stalled 30 feet or so before the actual stop. Eventually I stalked off with what dignity I could preserve (likely very little), hoping at least that one or two others might have smiled to themselves.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm not the sort to go around complaining about kids these days, blahbity blah. I grew up with some yard-apes it sets my teeth on edge to remember, while these days I'm frequently amazed at the politeness and reserve, or anyway just the ordinariness, of adolescents I meet here and there. And besides, sometimes I used to spray graffiti on corporate buildings, and even public buildings, when playing at being an anarchist. So I'll freely admit to some hypocrisy on this.

But like I say, seeing someone with a sense of entitlement just gravels my ass, sometimes.
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Post by: sparqui on January 09, 2007, 11:39:50 PM
I can totally relate 'lance. I was always tempted to pin nasty notes on the elevators that were regularly defaced with BAD graffitti -- at least if they showed some talent or political insight I might not have minded. Anyway, with the new super, the practice seems to have stopped. I just don't get why anyone would want to make their shared space ugly -- it's a pretty short-lived laugh at most...

So I am tired and cranky. I made wild smoked salmon for dinner and half way through cooking realized that I quite dislike salmon (except smoked or as sashimi). I was distracted and over-cooked the asparagus as well. Dud dinner overall.

And I'm distracted by the cat. I am convinced Smoke is much worse but the telltale dehydration signs aren't there. Still, he puked after his medicated meal this morning and that worries me. I'm in all day meetings for the next two days and that bugs me -- my fear is that I'll come home and find him dead. Hubby says I am over-stressed and seeing things worse than they are. But shit, he's like my father and rarely worries (good to a point except when they actually miss the point...).
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Post by: GDKitty on January 10, 2007, 12:19:54 AM
Sparqui, I'm sending hopeful thoughts your way for Smoke.  It's so hard to know when to really worry sometimes, particularly when others in your midst aren't always reliably realistic ('sunny' no matter what). If only cats could talk and tell us what to do for them.  :cry:  
Keep trusting your instincts and stay strong  :hug
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Post by: gunnar gunnarson on January 10, 2007, 12:20:12 AM
Quote from: 'lance
I'm not the sort to go around complaining about kids these days, blahbity blah.


My dear fellow, I've used this before, but in good conscience, I believe it now belongs to you.     (http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/angryoldman.gif)

(ETA:  sparqui ... that was for 'lance, this is for the smokemeister.     (http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/catmilk.gif) )
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Post by: skdadl on January 10, 2007, 05:29:03 AM
sparqui, I can imagine how you must be feeling, awareness heightened by the upcoming trip.

If it helps, my old guy Gomer, who is on daily insulin and whose kidneys may be a bit compromised, tosses up almost daily and not right after meals, either, when you could at least think that gobbling too fast was the problem (it often is in healthy cats). He has been doing that the whole time I've had him, and yet he trucks along cheerfully otherwise; I keep an eye on him, but (knock on wood) I've relaxed a bit (knocks on wood again) into accepting that we both can live with this indefinitely (knocks on wood again), which seems to be Gomer's attitude too.

My most healthy cat, Mathilda, throws up after eating all the time and always has because she is high-strung and gobbles her food. Knock on wood for Tildie too, except she's obviously not in any trouble yet (knock on wood again).

Hell. It's hard to feel confident, ain't it?   :panic    :wink:
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Post by: sparqui on January 10, 2007, 08:40:36 AM
Thanks skdadl and gunnar.

Smoke seems better this morning (knock on wood). My concern is that maybe the meds I put in his food are not having enough impact -- especially the diuretic because I see his belly as still very swollen. But for sure it would be nice if these little creatures could tell us how they're feeling.

It's still dark out and snowing. Must find my warm boots to trudge to my meeting. I did my best LA LAW fashion thing yesterday -- today it's going to be bloody warm and snuggly clothing.

I dreamed that it was New Year's Eve again and I was at a costume ball in Bali or Vegas or some such resort. Met an ex-military guy who was the head of the department for the government job I had tested for. Told me that the job was mine -- checked my e-mail and sure enough I had to respond with my answer by the end of the work day. At the job itself, every single stereotype civil servant was working there, there being a warehouse/print shop that housed the ex-employees and owners of the original print business that had gone bankrupt. I had to come up with a com plan to divert attention from a boondoggle of sorts: an ill inspired and expensive outreach exercise that resulted in the production of millions of cloth bags with an over-the-top social marketing message. I was met with lots of "duh, not my job..."

Checked my e-mail and there was no such job offer -- PHEW!
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Post by: fern hill on January 10, 2007, 10:58:32 AM
I just wrote a cheque for my RRSP contribution. I'll mail it later when I go out. I mail so little these days, I had to think for a second where the nearest post box is. There are so few of them now. Remember when there were the little ones hung on poles in residential nabes?

Kee-rist I feel old.

Hey, Debra, we need a female old fart smiley.
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Post by: skdadl on January 10, 2007, 11:02:40 AM
You are rich enough to contribute to an RRSP?!?

fern hill! My old friend!
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Post by: fern hill on January 10, 2007, 11:06:39 AM
Heh. Rich? I haven't made over $30K since the 80s when even the office cat was making over $50K. I'm just above the low-income cut-off for a single person in a big city. But still, for you, skdadl, I could spare a tenner.  :wink:
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Post by: chcmd on January 10, 2007, 11:12:08 AM
Quote from: skdadl
If it helps, my old guy Gomer, who is on daily insulin and whose kidneys may be a bit compromised, tosses up almost daily and not right after meals, either, ...
My most healthy cat, Mathilda, throws up after eating all the time and always has because she is high-strung and gobbles her food.


Y'know skdadl, with all those cats a'pukin', and that walking thing you're trying to get goin' on, you really should get a beagle! :wink:
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on January 10, 2007, 11:13:29 AM
Quote from: fern hill
Remember when there were the little ones hung on poles in residential nabes?


They're gone in TO?  I have three of them within two blocks of my house.  In three different directions, of course.  Very handy.  I don't mail letters much myself, but I have been too lazy to get my VrtuCar payment set up to do online, so they get a paper cheque every month.

I'm working on some rather boring and detestable paperwork right now.  It's one of those "oh, *this* is why I hate my job" days.  So I'm amusing myself by looking at different cribs and matresses and baby sleeping arrangements.  Then the price of the ones I like make me think I should quite lollygagging and get to work, so I can afford them.  But I hate this work, so I get distracted.  It's a viscous circle.   :wink:
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Post by: skdadl on January 10, 2007, 11:13:51 AM
Quote from: chcmd

Y'know skdadl, with all those cats a'pukin', and that walking thing you're trying to get goin' on, you really should get a beagle! :wink:


 :rotfl:
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Post by: skdadl on January 10, 2007, 11:15:44 AM
When I'm in that mood, Sleeping Sun, I look at kitchen porn. Like this. (http://www.creativecookware.com/copper_cookware1.htm)
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Post by: Sleeping Sun on January 10, 2007, 11:22:47 AM
Ohh, kitchen porn!  Before christmas, I was drooling over these (http://www.lecreuset.com/).  I still want them.  Still can't afford them.  

toxic chemical free baby mattress OR enameled cast iron roasting pot?  toughie.  :)
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Post by: fern hill on January 10, 2007, 11:24:41 AM
skdadl wants a weiner dog. Have I told my weiner-dog story? My papa had friends in Jamaica and he used to spend a month or so down there every winter. These people were feelthy rich and I still don't understand why papa, a small-town lawyer, was allowed among them. Anyhoo, when you're rich in Jamaica, you can live awfully well. One set of friends lived at the top of a long, slow-rising hill overlooking the ocean. The hill was brilliant grassy green. The woman bred weiner dogs. On the day I first visited, I was standing on the veranda looking at the ocean when I noticed this undulating patch of reddish brown moving up the green green hill. When it got a little closer I could see that it was the woman up to her knees in weiner dogs on her way home. About 25 of them. Great fun to roll around with a bunch of weiner dogs.
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Post by: skdadl on January 10, 2007, 11:26:27 AM
Och, Sleeping Sun: now I know how to torment you.   :wink:

Le Creuset is brilliant, has been for many years. So maybe now we should tempt you as well with Emile Henry. Or ... you're in Ottawa. So you could go to Ashton Green, you lucky person. Where you could spend $255 on a frying pan! (http://www.ashtongreen.com/product.dhtml?pres=A400_5&fc=AMB)     :wink:
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Post by: chcmd on January 10, 2007, 11:26:28 AM
Yup, I've also had weiner dogs, and they too would be more than happy to help out with the kitty kack! :lol:
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Post by: skdadl on January 10, 2007, 11:31:07 AM
I adore the little weiner dogs. A neighbour of ours had a miniature named Wolfgang -- Wolfie. (Pronounce the w as a v.) God, he was cute. The only cuter dog I've ever known was a King Charles spaniel called Cello.

I think dachshunds are prone to back problems because people overfeed them -- an obvious hazard when your stomach is hanging from such a long spine.
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Post by: Debra on January 10, 2007, 11:32:54 AM
Quote
Hey, Debra, we need a female old fart smiley.


How's this :geezera:
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Post by: chester on January 10, 2007, 11:36:57 AM
Jesus H. Christ-on-a-bike!  what a blizzard!  just walked about 14 blocks straight into the teeth of it.  am tired.
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Post by: anne cameron on January 10, 2007, 11:48:16 AM
Well, the howling wind and driving rain stopped late yesterday afternoon, then we had a brief period of overcast but okay...then the weary drizzle started and as the light faded the drizzle got lumpy.  By about nine at night the lumps were ittybitty flakes of white shite.  It's now ankle deep.  I sit in a warm house and look out at this "winter wonderland" and resist the urge to head outside and PUKE all over it.

I hate white shite.

Rover, the calico, hates it, too, as she walks through it she shakes each paw as she lifts it.  Squeak-formerly-Ruby is whining, and has been told to put a sock in it or she'll be outside dam fast.
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Post by: Boom Boom on January 10, 2007, 12:00:14 PM
It was freakin' cold this morning so I refused to get out of bed until I had to use the facilities, then went downstairs to put the fire on. Takes forever to heat the #$%^!!!! house. I'm feeling grumpy today because it appears that winter is now here to stay. Consarn it! Cotton-pickin' furshinger white crap everywhere!  :age:
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Post by: fern hill on January 10, 2007, 12:08:10 PM
:yay: Debra. We have a geezera! That's her name. :geezera:
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Post by: skdadl on January 10, 2007, 12:10:29 PM
Heavens. Where do y'all live? We're walking around in shorts here.

[skdadl is tempting the gods. Cue spooky music.]
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Post by: Nikita on January 10, 2007, 12:22:56 PM
chester, I heard you gyus and gals in Saskatoon are supposed to get 15-20 centimetres of snow today!  My mum emailed me this morning, she was considering skipping school.  That's when I knew it was serious.  ;)

It snowed a little here overnight and this morning my car was totally covered!  At least it was just fluffy snow, there was no ice clumps like last week.  I hate scraping the ice clumps off.
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Post by: deBeauxOs on January 10, 2007, 12:31:34 PM
Quote from: Sleeping Sun
toxic chemical free baby mattress OR enameled cast iron roasting pot?  toughie.  :)
Hmmm, how big is that roasting pot?  Could you get a 'toxic chemical free' pillow, pad the inside of the pot and the littl'un could sleep in it?  Adaptation - a skill new parents must hone.   :wink:
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Post by: 'lance on January 10, 2007, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: gunnar gunnarson
[quote="'lance":2cj84qiu]I'm not the sort to go around complaining about kids these days, blahbity blah.

My dear fellow, I've used this before, but in good conscience, I believe it now belongs to you.     (http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/angryoldman.gif)[/quote:2cj84qiu]

Thanks gunnar, quite an honour to be passed the torch, or cane.

And of course, I left out a few words back there; it should have been "not come off even more of an old fogey."

I suppose there are worse fates. Some people don't get the chance, after all. I can't complain -- no-one would listen.
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