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Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on June 14, 2010, 04:34:42 PM
So there are rumours and an announcement tomorrow about Quebecor starting a TV network with Kory Teneycke in charge:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/right-wing-television-needs-upscale-market/article1601831/
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/krista-erickson-leaves-cbc-apparently-to-join-fox-news-north/article1603372/
 
Don Newman says Canada does not need it, and he told Kory that way back in 2003:
 
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/06/10/f-vp-newman.html
 
Alison's take from June 10:
 
http://creekside1.blogspot.com/2010/06/fox-news-north.html
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on June 14, 2010, 04:51:58 PM
If I may repeat myself: I just can't get used to the idea that our entire world should be run by twerps.

The story about Greg Weston needs close watching. Even before we get to politics, just from a craft and experience pov, it is so offensive that a puny wee man like little Kory should stroll into an organization and begin to decide the fates of workers who have earned their way in the world.
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on June 14, 2010, 06:05:05 PM
Mr. Teneycke attempted to recruit CBC comedian Rick Mercer as well, but  was not successful. (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/fox-news-north-primed-for-launch/article1603483/)  :crazy:

Hey where's Ezra?
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on June 14, 2010, 06:54:08 PM
Ezra issued a non-denial denial. Like anyone would want to put Seinfeld's Newman onscreen. Gah.

I bet Michael Coren is interested. I bet a lot of people are. I wouldn't risk it. It's not going to go anywhere.
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on June 14, 2010, 07:13:29 PM
O yes, Ezra was briefly quoted on local CBC radio about needing more balanced reporting (choke, gasp!) and said he would watch with interest. But at least the radio announcers did point out he's a rightwing pundit and mentioned his Western Standard being defunct.
 
I believe Ezra is hoping for a job, since he avoided frothing at the mouth for a change.
 
But it's fun to speculate; over at Dawg's we were saying there would be an anti-science show called Quacks and Whackos [mine]; or Quacks and Crocks [forgot to buy tinfoil] or as balbulican suggested:
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Given their fossilized worldview - kooks in quartz?

http://drdawgsblawg.blogspot.com/2010/06/curried-science.html
 
And there must be Conservapedia Corner:
 
http://enormousthrivingplants.blogspot.com/search/label/Sunday%20Conservapedia (http://enormousthrivingplants.blogspot.com/search/label/Sunday%20Conservapedia)
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on June 14, 2010, 08:03:38 PM
Here is a new looking blog, worth checking out more, which has some interesting things to say about Quebecor, etc.:
 
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...Essentially, the parent company Quebecor Inc. ‘s corporate media holdings company,Quebecor Media Inc. (QMI) planted its own “news story” through its own QMI Agency news service about what is at heart a story about the Quebecor group’s own bid to gain access to the cable news market...

http://looncanada.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/canadas-answer-to-fox-news-is-off-to-a-bumpy-start/
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on June 14, 2010, 11:17:42 PM
More, by way of Impolitical,
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On March 30, 2009, Prime Minister Stephen Harper sat down for lunch in New York with Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes.


The meeting was not on any public itinerary released by the Prime Minister's Office and only came to light when The Canadian Press searched media consultant Ari Fleischer's mandatory disclosures with the U.S. Justice Department.

Ailes is the longtime Republican communications guru who is the president of Fox News Channel, which is owned by Murdoch's News Corp.

Harper's soon-to-be-ex-communications director Kory Teneycke was also present.

Four months later, Teneycke had left the PMO - barely a year into his job as Harper's chief spokesman - only to pick up a contract with Quebecor to explore a project that Ottawa insiders almost immediately described as a fledgling "Fox News North."
from here (http://finance.sympatico.ca/home/tory_insiders_and_behind-scenes_lobbying_pave_path_to_new_fox_north_launch/3956e5b8).
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on June 15, 2010, 02:03:08 PM
Goat & Snail on official announcement, etc.  Sun TV News Channel "Canada's Home for Hard News and Straight Talk."
 
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...According to the company, the channel will deliver “hard news” in the daytime, with opinion and analysis shows in the evening...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/quebecor-to-reformat-sun-tv/article1604757/
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on June 15, 2010, 03:20:19 PM
Couldn't they call it "Phoque News"?
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on June 15, 2010, 03:32:17 PM
We used to have a mug with LE PHOQUE GRIS  printed on it over a nice outline drawing of a seal's face. Loved that mug -- wonder where it is now ...

"Phoque News" is an idea -- nice Canadian twist.
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on June 17, 2010, 04:15:31 PM
Holy KornKob Batman! Sun TV DID offer Mercer a job (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/entertainment/breakingnews/mercer-says-he-turned-down-sun-tv-decided-to-dance-with-one-that-brung-me-96581149.html)
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on June 17, 2010, 06:56:14 PM
You had to say KornKob. Now I'm hungry again. Corn, corn, do I have some corn ...  :popcorn

I think Mercer's mainly being nice there. I mean, he has to do business too, and he has to keep himself on good enough terms with everyone to keep getting access. But I think his politics are pretty clear.
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on June 21, 2010, 05:33:43 PM
John Doyle thinks it'll be fun:
 
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...The “blond, attractive and dating a politician” Erickson (as my Ottawa colleague Jane Taber put it recently) would be a perfect fit. Right-wingers are as predictable in their news-babe preferences as they are in their conspiracy theories about the CBC. The only brunette you’re likely to find on the proposed channel, a right-wing act of broadcast onanism, is Ezra Levant. That would be Ezra “Bill O’Reilly of the North” Levant...

"...a rightwing act of broadcast onanism..." :rofl:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/fox-news-north-and-you-thought-the-fake-lake-was-barking-mad/article1610820/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/fox-news-north-and-you-thought-the-fake-lake-was-barking-mad/article1610820/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on July 23, 2010, 09:35:08 PM
According to BigCityLib in several posts, Greg Weston is gone, Danielle Smith's husband David Moretta has been hired, and Eric Margolis is gone from the Sun but not from the intertubes.
 
http://torontosunfamily.blogspot.com/2010/07/margolis-out.html (http://torontosunfamily.blogspot.com/2010/07/margolis-out.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on July 23, 2010, 09:38:39 PM
Margolis is gone. So is Canada. Conbots don't read the intertoobz.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Alison on July 23, 2010, 11:14:12 PM
Also gone from SunMedia is Elizabeth Thompson, who got the scoop on Frank Luntz' how-to spin speech to the Cons at Civitas in 2006, the list of Con talking points for phone-in radio shows in 2008, and the Cons selling off of the Queen's silverware dirt cheap, for which I believe she is up for a Canadian Association of Journalists Award
 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 01, 2010, 07:21:24 PM
Article about Margaret Atwood arguing on twitter with Steven Taylor and David Akin about the petition against Fox News North.
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/margaret-atwood-takes-on-fox-news-north/article1692853/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/margaret-atwood-takes-on-fox-news-north/article1692853/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 01, 2010, 07:57:36 PM
Akin is now arguing with me.

http://twitter.com/#search?q=davidakin%20antoniaz (http://twitter.com/#search?q=davidakin%20antoniaz)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: sparqui on September 01, 2010, 08:21:09 PM
YAY Margaret Atwood.  :applause Some of the blogging blue idiots thought that this fascist move would compromise her given her anti-censorship, freedom of speech stances.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: k'in on September 01, 2010, 08:44:55 PM
Quote from: Antonia
Akin is now arguing with me.

Oh, the  :irony ...David "putting the *twit* in twitter" Akin telling someone to do their research.  ::)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 01, 2010, 09:27:57 PM
Like I later Tweeted:

AntoniaZ (http://twitter.com/AntoniaZ)                                                      A serious news operation wouldn't have dumped @EricMargolis (http://twitter.com/EricMargolis), Greg Weston and Elizabeth Thompson. #cdnmedia (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23cdnmedia) #cdnpoli (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23cdnpoli) #QMI (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23QMI) #SunTV (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23SunTV)

Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 01, 2010, 09:32:41 PM
Good shot.  I'm not on twitter, but I felt like mentioning the "Lock and Load" Sun editorial that some bloggers thought Teneycke might have written.
 
ETA: Mr. Sinister blogged that:
 
http://mrsinistergreg.blogspot.com/2010/09/dear-david-akin.html (http://mrsinistergreg.blogspot.com/2010/09/dear-david-akin.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 01, 2010, 10:55:23 PM
Heh. Tweeted.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Croghan27 on September 02, 2010, 03:59:01 AM
YAY Margaret Atwood.  :applause Some of the blogging blue idiots thought that this fascist move would compromise her given her anti-censorship, freedom of speech stances.

As usual I agree with (the impressive) sparqui. If you read the comments you can easily see that most of the 'anti' Atwood ones come from people who have not bothered to read her (the) article. She states again and again that  her problem is with the imperial methods of the government, not it's actual bills and initiatives.

It is how this new channel is being allowed to 'jump the queue' for obvious doctrinaire reasons, and has nothing to to do with the content.

(Was not jumping the queue one of the multitudinous objections cast at the refugees that sailed in BC recently?) :confused

 ” 
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Ms. Atwood's concern is not with the network’s proposed agenda. Instead,   she’s worried about potential interference by the Harper government.
  “Some people signing the petition object to the expected content. I   object to the process,” she told The Globe. “It's the [prime   ministerial] pressure on yet another civil servant that bothers me.   These folks are supposed to be working for the taxpayer, not the PM.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 02, 2010, 01:45:52 PM
According to this, Mark Bonokowski has been writing national editorials; so is he responsible for the horrible Lock and Load one?
 
http://torontosunfamily.blogspot.com/2010/09/bono-countdown.html (http://torontosunfamily.blogspot.com/2010/09/bono-countdown.html)
 
Hat tip to BCL
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 02, 2010, 02:35:46 PM
I have been reliably informed that all Sun Media national pages are identical.

And yes, I do believe he wrote it as he has been posting ediorials on his FB profile and I assume they are all his.

He followed up the ''lock and load'' one with this ...

http://www.torontosun.com/comment/editorial/2010/08/21/15098871.html (http://www.torontosun.com/comment/editorial/2010/08/21/15098871.html)

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The National Post weakly opined yesterday that it was time for the Harper  government to “get smart” about this refugee situation, and “forget tough.” 
It then took us to task, stating “the Sun Media newspapers even ran an  odious editorial advocating a Œlock and load’ approach to incoming vessels.” 
That, of course, was early in the game. 
So let’s rephrase that “lock and load approach” in light of the secret  government report that gives credence to our concerns about becoming patsies  -  concerns rightly shared by many Canadians outraged by having our  collective generosity taken advantage of by con artists. 
Instead of “lock and load,” let’s  “lock them up, load them up, and ship  them out.” 
Are we clear? 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 02, 2010, 03:12:08 PM
And I cynically assume he was feeling some heat and had to spin it to be less murderous. 
 
I also wonder if it is usual for the Toronto Sun Family blog to say in public who is writing 'anonymous' editorials, though I suppose maybe insiders usually know these things.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 03, 2010, 02:31:27 PM
Oh look, Teneycke writes a nasty editorial about Atwood.  What an ass he is.
 
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Features/2010/09/02/15235736.html (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Features/2010/09/02/15235736.html)
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/kory-teneycke-blasts-back-at-margaret-atwood/article1695142/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/kory-teneycke-blasts-back-at-margaret-atwood/article1695142/)
 
While Postmedia (Postmortem?) News reports on a poll; and a commenter notes the poll is from last November:
 
http://communities.canada.com/shareit/blogs/politics/archive/2010/09/03/not-quot-extremely-satisfied-quot-with-tv-news-sun-tv-news-has-the-fix.aspx (http://communities.canada.com/shareit/blogs/politics/archive/2010/09/03/not-quot-extremely-satisfied-quot-with-tv-news-sun-tv-news-has-the-fix.aspx)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 03, 2010, 02:36:51 PM
Holly Stick, see pogge's funny update (http://www.pogge.ca/archives/002911.shtml) from Kady's tweets on that op-ed.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 03, 2010, 02:57:26 PM
And Andrew Davidson has more about that, including Avaaz's retort:
 
http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/09/stop-fox-news-north-petition-we-didnt-sign-it.html (http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/09/stop-fox-news-north-petition-we-didnt-sign-it.html)
 
Meanwhile a nasty looking blog called Moose and Squirrel accuses Avaaz of falsely adding journalists' names; what are the chances M&S did it themselves?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 03, 2010, 02:59:25 PM
Holly Stick, the question to ask is Kady's question: how do they know? The signatures on the petition are not displayed publicly.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on September 03, 2010, 03:03:49 PM
The journalists have been weighing in on Twitter as they receive emails from Avaaz thanking them for signing. They include Kady O'Malley, Paul Wells, Chris Hall and Stephen Maher. All of them deny signing it. O'Malley is trying to follow up with Avaaz to see if they can shed light on whether all the names were added by the same person -- and by the same person who added all the fictitious characters.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on September 03, 2010, 03:10:59 PM
A couple of rightwing wingnuts are trying to start up a phoney "grassroots" movement here in Québec patterned after the Tea Partyites, le Réseau liberté Québec. http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/295381/un-mouvement-de-droite-nait-au-quebec

More about this brownish, odiferous scum, in English: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2010/09/02/quebec-tea-party-movement.html

I'm sure there are more people in my Québec solidaire riding association than their whole group, but they've received an ungordly amount of media attention. Hmm, I'm pretty sure we'll find Quebecor links. Edited to add: we have! See CBC article.

Remember that the journalists and other staff at Quebecor's Journal de Montréal are STILL locked out.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: brebis noire on September 03, 2010, 04:04:00 PM
I read the Teneycke piece on Atwood. What a smear artist. I just received the Avaaz (I learned from Teneycke that this apparently means "voice" - in Persian...sigh) petition and it doesn't seem to contain the same information that Teneycke is decrying and belittling. Mind you, my petition is in French, but I don't see what he is gabbling about.
My copy reads:
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 Le Premier Ministre Harper tente d’imposer sur nos ondes la diffusion de médias propagateurs de haine inspirés des Etats-Unis, et de nous en imposer le financement.

Il veut créer la "Fox News du Nord" pour imiter le type de propagande haineuse avec laquelle Fox News empoisonne la politique aux Etats-Unis. Cette chaîne, qui sera dirigée par un ancien assistant de Harper, sera financée par les redevances que nous versons aux chaînes payantes!

Un seul homme peut s'opposer à ce scenario cauchemardesque -- le président du Conseil de la radiodiffusion et des télécommunications canadiennes, Konrad von Finckenstein. Il a rejeté ce plan qu’il juge contraire à la politique du CRTC, et Harper tente à présent de lui retirer son poste. Envoyons dès maintenant une vague de soutien massif à von Finckenstein en réunissant 100 000 signatures de citoyens canadiens l’encourageant à défendre le Canada et à résister fermement aux pressions de Harper. Signez la pétition ci-dessous et envoyez ce message à tous vos proches – nous publierons la pétition dans des encarts pleine page de journaux canadiens lorsque nous atteindrons 100 000 signatures:

http://www.avaaz.org/fr/no_fox_news_canada/?vl (http://www.avaaz.org/fr/no_fox_news_canada/?cl=730905350&v=7086)

Harper a concocté son plan l'an dernier lors d’un déjeuner secret avec le magnat de la presse Rupert Murdoch, le patron de Fox News. Kory Teneycke, le bras droit de Harper, également présent à ce déjeuner, a ensuite quitté le gouvernement pour diriger Sun Media et la "Fox News du Nord".

La chaîne Fox News propage la haine. Tout en affirmant en permanence qu’elle est "juste" et "impartiale", elle laisse des présentateurs hystériques comme Glenn Beck comparer Obama à "Lucifer" et à "Hitler". Bill O’Reilly, un autre présentateur, a menacé de boycotter le Canada et Anne Coulter affirme que le Canada peut "s’estimer heureux que les Etats-Unis lui permettent d’exister sur le même continent." Cette chaîne a délibérément lancé le mouvement du Tea Party aux Etats-Unis, une mobilisation de l’extrême droite qui n'hésite pas à proférer des menaces de violence contre ses opposants et dont les membres portent des armes lors de leurs rassemblements politiques.

Il s’agit d'une lutte pour l’âme de la démocratie canadienne. Nos medias ne sont pas parfaits, mais une chaîne 'd’information' qui sert docilement les intérêts d’un programme politique par la manipulation de masse et la peur menace la base même de notre société démocratique.

Le CRTC fait partie de notre démocratie --il a été conçu comme une commission indépendante afin précisément de prévenir ce genre de manipulation des médias par le gouvernement. Harper sait bien qu’il doit forcer la main à cette institution s’il veut créer la Fox News du Nord. Et des rumeurs inquiétantes circulent à Ottawa: si von Finckenstein ne démissionne pas, Harper l’y forcera, tout simplement. von Finckenstein défend les meilleures traditions de la démocratie canadienne et du service public face à l’attaque tous azimuts lancée contre ces traditions. Montrons-lui, ainsi qu’à Harper, que le Canada est à ses côtés.

http://www.avaaz.org/fr/no_fox_news_canada/?vl (http://www.avaaz.org/fr/no_fox_news_canada/?cl=730905350&v=7086)

Cette "Fox News du Nord" constitue la stratégie à long terme de Harper visant à faire du conservatisme radical le centre de la scène politique au Canada, détruisant ainsi le pays que nous aimons pour nous faire ressembler aux Etats-Unis. Heureusement, Konrad von Finckenstein et le CRTC lui barrent la route. – Soutenons-les.

Avec espoir,

Ricken, Emma, Iain, Laryn et le reste de l’équipe d’Avaaz

Sources:

Médias - Vers une Fox News à la canadienne:
http://www.ledevoir.com/societe/medias/290636/medias-vers-une-fox-news-a-la-canadienne (http://www.ledevoir.com/societe/medias/290636/medias-vers-une-fox-news-a-la-canadienne)

Projet de chaîne Sun TV: Margaret Atwood critique Harper:
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/arts/television/201009/01/01-4311828-projet-de-chaine-sun-tv-margaret-atwood-critique-harper.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Arts (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/arts/television/201009/01/01-4311828-projet-de-chaine-sun-tv-margaret-atwood-critique-harper.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Arts)

Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 03, 2010, 04:16:19 PM
Here's the text of the English letter I got on Sept 1 as part of the thank you for signing the petition:
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  Dear friends,

Prime Minister Harper is trying to push American-style hate media onto our airwaves, and make us all pay for it.

His plan is to create a "Fox News North" to mimic the kind of hate-filled propaganda with which Fox News has poisoned U.S. politics. The channel will be run by Harper’s former top aide and will be funded with money from our cable TV fees!

One man stands in the way of this nightmare -- the Chairman of Canada's Radio and Telecommunications Commission Konrad von Finckenstein. He's rejected the plan as a violation of CRTC policies, so now Harper is trying to get him out of the job. Let's urgently send a massive wave of public support to von Finckenstein, with 100,000 Canadians encouraging him to keep standing up for Canada, and standing firm against Harper's pressure. Sign the petition below and forward this email to everyone -- we'll publish full page ads in Canadian papers when we reach 100,000:

{Link}

Harper hatched his scheme in a secret lunch last year with media-mogul Rupert Murdoch, the owner of Fox News. Harper's top aide Kory Teneycke also came to the lunch, and then left the government to head up Suncor Newspapers and the new "Fox News North".

Fox News fuels hate. While constantly claiming to be “fair” and “balanced”, it allows hysterical anchors like Glenn Beck to compare Obama to "Lucifer" and "Hitler". Bill O’Reilly, another anchor, has threatened to boycott Canada, and Anne Coulter says Canada is “lucky the US allows it to exist on the same continent.” The network has calculatingly spawned the tea party movement in the US, a mobilisation of the fringe right which threatens violence upon its opponents and wears guns to political rallies.

This is a fight for the soul of Canadian democracy. Our media is not perfect, but a ‘news’ network that slavishly serves a political agenda through mass manipulation and fear threatens the fabric of our democratic society.

The CRTC is part of our democracy -- it was made an independent commission precisely in order to protect against this kind of government manipulation of the media. Harper knows that he must bully his way through this institution in order to create Fox News North. And there are dark rumours in Ottawa that if von Finckenstein will not leave his job, Harper will simply force him to give in. Von Finckenstein is upholding the best tradition of Canadian democracy and civil service in the face of a full scale attack on that tradition. Let's show him, and Harper, that Canada stands with him.

{Link}

"Fox News North" is Harper's long term strategy to make radical conservatism the political centre in Canada, tearing down the country we love to make us look like the U.S. Thankfully, Konrad von Finckenstein and the CRTC are standing in his way -- let's stand with them.

With hope,

Ricken, Emma, Iain, Laryn and the rest of the Avaaz team

Sources:

Globe and Mail, “Is Harper set to move against the CRTC?”:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/lawrence-martin/is-stephen-harper-set-to-move-against-the-crtc/article1677632/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/lawrence-martin/is-stephen-harper-set-to-move-against-the-crtc/article1677632/)

CBC, “The absolute last thing this country needs”:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/06/10/f-vp-newman.html#socialcomments#ixzz0r6MC4p46 (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/06/10/f-vp-newman.html#socialcomments#ixzz0r6MC4p46)

Globe and Mail, CRTC refuses Sun TV's bid for preferred status on dial:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc-refuses-sun-tvs-bid-for-preferred-status-on-dial/article1641654/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/crtc-refuses-sun-tvs-bid-for-preferred-status-on-dial/article1641654/)

The Star, “Harper’s foxy luncheon”:
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/851510--mcquaig-harper-s-foxy-luncheon (http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/851510--mcquaig-harper-s-foxy-luncheon)

Mediaite, “Canada and Ann Coulter: a volatile relationship”:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/canada-ann-coulter-colleges/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/canada-ann-coulter-colleges/)

Media Matters, “Glenn Beck compares Obama to Lucifer”:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201008040051 (http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201008040051)

Media Matters, “Glenn Beck smears Obama’s 11 year old daughter”:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280025 (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005280025)

The Examiner: “Bill O’Reilly again confuses facts about Canadian health care system”:
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-bill-o-reilly-again-confuses-facts-about-canadian-health-care-system (http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/video-bill-o-reilly-again-confuses-facts-about-canadian-health-care-system)

Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on September 03, 2010, 04:37:00 PM
From Kady O'Malley (http://twitter.com/kady/status/22917001945)'s latest batch of tweets:
Quote
avaaz petition spam update: according to rick patel, the fake names - inc. snuffaluphugus - were added by the same IP as the real journos.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 03, 2010, 04:41:41 PM
From Kady O'Malley (http://twitter.com/kady/status/22917001945)'s latest batch of tweets:
Quote
avaaz petition spam update: according to rick patel, the fake names - inc. snuffaluphugus - were added by the same IP as the real journos.
How astonishing: not.
 
Meanwhile Rusty Idols points out that Kory lied in his editorial:
 
http://rustyidols.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-dare-she.html#links (http://rustyidols.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-dare-she.html#links)
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/quebecor-takes-new-stab-at-tv-licence/article1694601/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/quebecor-takes-new-stab-at-tv-licence/article1694601/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 03, 2010, 05:04:51 PM
Great post from Rusty I.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 03, 2010, 05:24:28 PM
A discussion at Maclean's about the Teneycke editorial; with a lot of links that may look familiar:  :stirthepot
 
http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/09/03/teneycke-attacks-atwood-over-anti-sun-tv-news-petition/#idc-cover (http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/09/03/teneycke-attacks-atwood-over-anti-sun-tv-news-petition/#idc-cover)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on September 03, 2010, 05:41:39 PM
And a fresh post (http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/09/avaazorg-vs-sun-tv-vs-unwitting-hill-journalists-and-now-you-know-the-rest-of-the-story-maybe.html) from Kady O'Malley at the CBC. Most interesting part, quoting the executive director of Avaaz:
Quote
"What's really concerning for us is that this fraud occurred last night, right as [Teneycke] must have been writing his op-ed, so he appears to have almost instantaneous knowledge of the fraud being committed -- before we did or anyone else. How is that possible? And, given that this is potentially criminal investigation, will he disclose that relationship to his source? Was it someone who works for him?"
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 03, 2010, 06:16:31 PM
Great article by Kady. Hmmm, who to believe, Avaaz or Teneycke?  ::)
 
Meanwhile Kelly McParland also attacks Atwood:
 
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/02/kelly-mcparland-margaret-atwoods-selective-support-for-press-freedom/#ixzz0yOaZpBVy (http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/02/kelly-mcparland-margaret-atwoods-selective-support-for-press-freedom/#ixzz0yOaZpBVy)
 
Don't bother with the comments, all but a couple are just stupid and spiteful.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 03, 2010, 07:53:23 PM
Power & Politics interview with Teneycke and Patel of Avaaz.  I think Teneycke came out poorly, but I am quite prejudiced.  Not sure how a neutral person would react.
 
http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/ID=1582123926 (http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/ID=1582123926)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 03, 2010, 08:21:06 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/ID=1582123926 (http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/ID=1582123926)

ooops. You beat me.
:-)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on September 03, 2010, 08:34:26 PM
Power & Politics interview with Teneycke and Patel of Avaaz.  I think Teneycke came out poorly, but I am quite prejudiced.  Not sure how a neutral person would react.
 
http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/ID=1582123926 (http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/ID=1582123926)

Just wow, thanks for the link HS. An expert in body language, communication would have a field day with Kory, he just looked and sounded so wrong and guilty and a very bad liar. His eyes give it all away.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 03, 2010, 08:36:40 PM
Agreed on the body language. Also, right after that he started accusing Patel of libel.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 03, 2010, 09:26:24 PM
I'm not objective either -- I've long thought that Kory is a weedy little twerp, and he does have strange eyes -- are those walleyes? -- so ...

I think that Patel talks too fast, especially at the beginning. Let's get him some coaching, peeps. And he didn't hit back as hard as he could have, although he didn't have all the facts we now do.

I've lost faith in Solomon. I think he's become an Ottawa version of the pompous peeps in Washington who call themselves and their very best friends the serious people. 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 03, 2010, 09:53:18 PM
Yes, earlier, when I googled 'Teneycke' and 'Atwood', I got many hits with titles claiming Atwood had sold out to the Yankees or similar.  Now it's mostly about Teneycke blasting back at her.  What a miserable little weenie he is.  :mad2
 
ETA: a superficial letter by Tasha Kheiriddin, who at least does not denigrate Atwood's books:
 
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/03/tasha-kheiriddin-a-letter-to-margaret-atwood/ (http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/03/tasha-kheiriddin-a-letter-to-margaret-atwood/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Alison on September 03, 2010, 11:04:11 PM
Just watched Kory at the CBC/Power Politics link saying Quebecor wasn't pushing for a must-carry licence. What a load of bs.
 
Back in July after the CRTC told Quebecor it wouldn't be getting the must-carry Category 1/A licence it had applied for, a Quebecor VP responded (http://www.marketingmag.ca/english/news/media/article.jsp?content=20100716_152625_8160) :
 
Quote
"We'll get exactly what we're asking for at the end of the day," said Serge Sasseville, Quebecor's vice-president of corporate affairs.
"We'll ask the CRTC exactly the same conditions we've been asking with a Category 1, and we're pretty confident we'll get it. You can ask for a must-offer even for other categories."
"It's only labelling. You can call a cat a dog but at the end of the day it's still a cat," he said.

So now, as promised above, they're asking for a Category 2 licence but with a special three year must-offer clause.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 04, 2010, 07:53:26 AM
Good link. I hope that Patel follows through on that hint that there could be a cause for legal action in the freeping, although I guess that's wishful thinking ... Worth scaring li'l Kory for a while, though.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 04, 2010, 01:23:05 PM
Susan Delacourt article, which I see skdadl has already commented on.  Yeah, she should have been more accurate.
 
http://thestar.blogs.com/politics/2010/09/journalism-petitions-and-activism.html (http://thestar.blogs.com/politics/2010/09/journalism-petitions-and-activism.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 04, 2010, 01:40:10 PM
I should have checked the law before I wrote. Wiki says that the legal category, federally, is "hate propaganda." The petition mentions "hate-filled propaganda," which isn't the same, but. Still, the only place I've seen or heard "hate speech" is from li'l Kory.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 04, 2010, 02:54:24 PM
Skinny Dipper on paying for Sun TV:
 
http://skinnydips.blogspot.com/2010/09/kory-teneycke-states-that-canadians.html (http://skinnydips.blogspot.com/2010/09/kory-teneycke-states-that-canadians.html)
 
and Alison:
 
http://creekside1.blogspot.com/2010/09/fox-news-north-korys-cat-and-dog-show.html (http://creekside1.blogspot.com/2010/09/fox-news-north-korys-cat-and-dog-show.html)
 
EAT: and 900ft Jesus:
 
http://ofgodsandothermonsters.blogspot.com/2010/09/we-dont-report-news-we-make-itup.html (http://ofgodsandothermonsters.blogspot.com/2010/09/we-dont-report-news-we-make-itup.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 04, 2010, 10:02:03 PM
Harper received briefing notes about Sun TV:
 
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-canadienne/201009/03/01-4312616-harper-sinteresse-a-sun-tv-news.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B13b_politique-canadienne_560_section_POS1 (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-canadienne/201009/03/01-4312616-harper-sinteresse-a-sun-tv-news.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B13b_politique-canadienne_560_section_POS1)
 
And it does mention that Teneycke accused Atwood of treason.

From a twitter by Andrew Coyne:
 
http://twitter.com/acoyne (http://twitter.com/acoyne)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 04, 2010, 10:34:48 PM
Trahison?!? Eh bien, la guerre!

(Where did Teneycke actually say treason?)

Time this broke open, though. This would be a long weekend, of course.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 04, 2010, 10:43:22 PM
In some cases the headline was "Atwood sells out to the Yankees" such as here:  http://brantfordexpositor.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2741291 (http://brantfordexpositor.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2741291)
 
and in the body he writes:
 
Quote
...This is not the first time Atwood has put her political agenda ahead of principles and patriotism. In the 2008 election campaign she was asked if she would vote for the separatist Bloc Quebecois if she lived in Quebec, she said: "Yes. Absolutely. What is the alternative?"
 
Seriously?
 
How about voting for someone who doesn't advocate the breakup of the country?...

Which would really go over well in Quebec, I assume.  {sarcastically}
 
ETA: in the Toronto Sun and others it's "Atwood's US Sellout"
 
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/2010/09/02/15230201.html (http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/2010/09/02/15230201.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 04, 2010, 10:53:25 PM
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Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 04, 2010, 11:08:25 PM
Sure you don't have a kitty's paw on the ````` button?  :p
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 04, 2010, 11:11:59 PM
Well. That was extremely strange. I really couldn't control it. Those little dots were running away with me everywhere online, and things were blinking, and I thought I'd have to call teh Genius, who's been after me to install something that would allow him to control me remotely to solve stuff like that, and I haven't done it, my fault, but the restart seems to have worked, so ok, I've had my warning and I'LL DO IT TOMORROW, OK?

Anyway, I think it's great that the Quebec press are naming this for what it is -- ie, the Cons insinuate charges of treason without actually using the word. You can see how Teneycke (or Harper) would slink out of any claim they'd done that, but of course they do it all the time. To me, the stuff about "socialists and separatists" usually means they're creating classes of citizenship (they're not talking just about MPs but about anyone who votes NDP or Bloc), but the "support the troops" stuff is openly edging on to treason-charge grounds.

So we need some good deconstruction here. It's entirely Rovian, and I think Kory has done Rovian grad school, hasn't he? (Must refresh memory.) Accuse your enemy of your own worst sin.
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on September 04, 2010, 11:17:06 PM
Quote from: Holly Stick
 In some cases the headline was "Atwood sells out to the Yankees" ...  
 
ETA: in the Toronto Sun and others it's "Atwood's US Sellout"
Good grief - in the Cons' nouveau-oligarchy where truthiness permeates the messaging, the irony-impaired Teneycke leads the pack.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 04, 2010, 11:17:41 PM
Quote
...Accuse your enemy of your own worst sin.

Yes indeed, rule number one in Disrupting Conversations for Dummies
 
I've been haunting the comments over at Maclean's and thought about starting a new argument that Teneycke is working for a Quebec company and so has sold out to the separatists, but I really do have to tear myself away, I've been obsessing on this a little too much.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 04, 2010, 11:19:13 PM
Sure you don't have a kitty's paw on the ````` button?  :p

That's an interesting qweschun. Which button is that? Her paw wasn't there, but her sleepy head might have edged that way.

Guinevere!
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 04, 2010, 11:20:57 PM
Mine is on the upper left, just under the escape button.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 04, 2010, 11:22:42 PM
I really do have to tear myself away, I've been obsessing on this a little too much.

No no, you're doing heroic work. We're all bookmarking from you like crazy.

I see the Maclean's problem, though. If I get started there, it's like babble or any other community. Before I know it, I'd be doing potluck or something.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 04, 2010, 11:28:16 PM
Mine is on the upper left, just under the escape button.

So that's what Esc means, eh? Hmmn. The only button I have below that is the one for the tilde/grave. But that would be the general area for a sleepy head.

What does the escape button actually do, anyway? I guess I'm gonna be having another conversation with teh Genius tomorrow ...

Really, though, it was a strange experience because once it started, I could not make it stop, and lights were blinking everywhere online. If Guinny started it, something else became automatic.

Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 04, 2010, 11:31:14 PM
I tend to see the cursor moving and then realise that I have a book or something leaning on the space bar.  :confused
 
I don't use Escape; it's useful for something, but I forget what.
 
ETA: yes, it's the grave mark, I think.  ````
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 04, 2010, 11:44:41 PM
Testing: ``````````````````

That's a grave? Holy fork. Well, that's nice to know. Where's the acute?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 05, 2010, 12:06:50 AM
''' ///   I don't have it, since my apostrophe is straight up and down.  When I am using French accents in WordPerfect, I look them up in the menu and insert them.  I could switch my keyboard to French, but I would be lost since the keys aren't marked for the French characters.
 
I don't know how the grave mark on that key actually gets put over a letter.
 
ETA wiki explains:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_accent#Technical_notes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_accent#Technical_notes)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on September 05, 2010, 12:32:36 AM
Quote from: Holly
... I don't use Escape; it's useful for something, but I forget what.
It's often a quick way to restore to the previous view - for example if you've watched a YouTube in full screen mode then want to go back to email.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 05, 2010, 12:55:09 AM
Oh, that's right, I have used it when watching a TV show or whatever.  I should do more of that since my computer screen is better than my TV.  I don't have cable TV, which is ironic considering the current argument over Sun TV - Teneycke will get none of my money, anyway!
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 05, 2010, 01:17:05 AM
Wiki on Teneycke has been updated with a summary of this issue:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kory_Teneycke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kory_Teneycke)
 
And did we have a link to Montreal Simon"?
 
http://montrealsimon.blogspot.com/2010/09/fox-news-north-and-big-stinky-fish.html (http://montrealsimon.blogspot.com/2010/09/fox-news-north-and-big-stinky-fish.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 05, 2010, 07:45:06 AM
I didn't know that detail about "group showers" before. So he's a sadist who advocates on behalf of gay male rape, is he? We can run with that.

Montreal Simon is great -- I read all his stuff.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 05, 2010, 01:12:57 PM
Norman Spector thinks what Peladeau really wants from Harper is help to bring hockey back to Quebec City:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/spector-vision/the-real-deal-behind-fox-news-north/article1696680/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/spector-vision/the-real-deal-behind-fox-news-north/article1696680/)
 
So various media are twittering about this idea, such as on http://twitter.com/acoyne (http://twitter.com/acoyne) where Glen McGregor comes up with a link to Lobbywatcher which has at the top Quebecor lobbying Christian Paradis, Minister of Natural Resources, about sport
 
http://www.lobbywatcher.ca/index.php?minfull=Paradis%2CChristian&sortorder=date_sub#5065-153484 (http://www.lobbywatcher.ca/index.php?minfull=Paradis%2CChristian&sortorder=date_sub#5065-153484)

That looks like a handy tool; I seem to be able to use it though I'm not registered on Twitter.   ETA: here's the short address: http://www.lobbywatcher.ca/ (http://www.lobbywatcher.ca/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 05, 2010, 01:50:06 PM
More Montreal Simon:
 
http://montrealsimon.blogspot.com/2010/09/fox-news-north-pmo-connection.html (http://montrealsimon.blogspot.com/2010/09/fox-news-north-pmo-connection.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 05, 2010, 03:12:08 PM
A couple more things; CEO of Vision TV letter to Editor G&M asking why Quebecor is getting fast tracked:
 
Quote
Last Friday, the CRTC informed small and independent broadcasters, which had been waiting since 2007, that new rules were coming into effect and that their applications for mandatory carriage on basic digital cable and satellite would effectively not be heard until 2012 or 2013. On Tuesday, the same CRTC gazetted and permitted an application by media giant Quebecor/TVA to apply for a new “Fox News North” TV service with mandatory access...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/sept-4-letters-to-the-editor/article1696149/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/sept-4-letters-to-the-editor/article1696149/)
 
And a twitter snerk: Teneycke has been silent on twitter since he was busted, until today, writing that he's off with his family to Disney.  Steve V responds:
Quote
...Look for Snow White to suddenly sign petition...
http://twitter.com/FarAndWide (http://twitter.com/FarAndWide)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 05, 2010, 03:47:18 PM
For a while there, that was the RT of the morning. I was following other stuff, but suddenly you couldn't ignore Snow White. That one's gonna be hard to recover from.
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on September 05, 2010, 03:54:11 PM
Quote from: Holly Stick
... And a twitter snerk: Teneycke has been silent on twitter since he was busted, until today, writing that he's off with his family to Disney.  Steve V responds:
Quote
...Look for Snow White to suddenly sign petition...

 :))   Good one.  As well as Seven Dwarfs Short Cons With Attitudes, no doubt.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 06, 2010, 01:30:11 PM
The furore has died down, but there are a few new things:
 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/world/news/e3ic89e89e7caab635862d14ab4ad199dfc (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/world/news/e3ic89e89e7caab635862d14ab4ad199dfc)
 
Hat tip: http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2010/09/us-media-takes-note-of-fox-news-north.html (http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2010/09/us-media-takes-note-of-fox-news-north.html)
 
In a bizarre side note there was or is a twitter argument with Ezra Levant about George Soros' history, and Levant's own history is examined:
 
http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/09/06/the-hypocrisy-of-ezzy-levant-who-by-now-must-be-turning-purple/ (http://sistersagesmusings.ca/2010/09/06/the-hypocrisy-of-ezzy-levant-who-by-now-must-be-turning-purple/)
 
http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2010/09/facts-about-ezra-levant-fraser.html (http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2010/09/facts-about-ezra-levant-fraser.html)
 
http://rustyidols.blogspot.com/2010/09/unforgiven.html (http://rustyidols.blogspot.com/2010/09/unforgiven.html)
 
I'm finding twitter addictive even though I'm not registered.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 06, 2010, 02:09:17 PM
Yes, Twitter is a problem, once you figure out how it works. For me it has become one of those "Just step back now and breathe" situations -- not entirely sure why, except when particular storms get intense, it's hard to leave them for a time.

I don't try to be a player on Twitter. Antonia is -- the place works best for the journos and the bigger bloggers, who get going fast and furious among one another, while the rest of us just read. I don't mind doing that because sometimes something really is happening.

Sometimes it's more like a chat room, though, and that was never my kind of writing. I need teh blogs or here. You can follow a heated debate for a while and then start to feel that this has started to go in circles and people are now just dissing each other, at which point it's worth stepping back. Reminds me a bit of the debates with the CJC sock puppets at babble in the old days. ;)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Mandos on September 06, 2010, 03:27:24 PM
Mandos-realself uses Twitter to keep in touch with professional cronies.  Few of the downsides of Facebook, but most of the most important upsides.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 06, 2010, 03:29:09 PM
The locked out journalists will publish a weekly tabloid:
 
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2010/09/03/journal-de-mtl-rue-frontenac-weekly.html (http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2010/09/03/journal-de-mtl-rue-frontenac-weekly.html)
 
Calgary Herald editorial criticizing Atwood:
 
http://www.calgaryherald.com/entertainment/lunch/3486160/story.html (http://www.calgaryherald.com/entertainment/lunch/3486160/story.html)
 
Open Media offers to send an email to the CRTC:
 
http://openmedia.ca/stopfoxnewsnorth (http://openmedia.ca/stopfoxnewsnorth)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 06, 2010, 03:38:49 PM
Quote
I don't try to be a player on Twitter. .. the place works   best for the journos and the bigger bloggers, who get going fast and   furious among one another, while the rest of us just read. I don't mind   doing that because sometimes something really is happening.

I disagree on this point, but I do agree on your chat observation. I find it highly disruptive in my twitter stream to see extended exchanges between people or groups of people. There are chat media for that. Take it outside. I stopped following a bunch of card-carrying Liberals in some small towns who felt the need to connect with each other many many times a day. I could not bear their stuff.

As for who Twitter works best for, I think it works for anybody interested in the news. If you confine yourself to certain searches (my current permanent searches include #gunregistry #census #cdnpoli #fem2 etc.) you can get very quick very focused access to the news of the moment. I regard the people whom I follow largely as fellow Internauts in search of the same info that interests me.

And, when something big is happening, live, Twitter cannot be beat.

(Apologies for thread drift.)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 06, 2010, 04:19:59 PM
I disagree on this point ...

Well, but you would, wouldn't you. You're one of the nice biggies. Most of the biggies I follow are actually kinda ruthless -- they have many followers, but they only follow each other, so they don't see much chat coming through their feed the way that nice peeps like us do.

It's true that following the topics is what really counts, and there even an amateur will pick up a few followers if she does something useful. Sometimes the hot topics become next to unreadable, though. #wikileaks and #Assange are fighting off some bad spam/trolling. I don't know how Twitter defends against trolls.

I normally follow a very slow topic -- torture, and related topics. How slow is torture? Very very slow. Like, we are a few glum groups. Every once in a while something happens at GTMO or Bagram, but mainly, torture is a trudge. You learn a lot and you think deep, but you don't go fast. You do meet some nice peeps, though.

I also apologize for the drift. I have a couple of technical questions to ask, but I'll take them to the proper thread.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 06, 2010, 05:18:01 PM
Margaret Atwood strikes back:  :applause
 
http://marg09.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/on-signing-petitions/#comments (http://marg09.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/on-signing-petitions/#comments)
 
Hat tip: http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2010/09/margaret-atwood-responds-to-sun-media.html (http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2010/09/margaret-atwood-responds-to-sun-media.html)
 
And a Frye blog!:
 
Quote
...She is — according to a trash-talking errand boy — somehow lacking in sufficient patriotism...
 
...And just what has Kory Teneycke done to promote Canadian culture anywhere?  Nothing...

http://fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca/2010/09/06/harper-mulroney-shill-kory-teneycke-attacks-margaret-atwoods-patriotism/ (http://fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca/2010/09/06/harper-mulroney-shill-kory-teneycke-attacks-margaret-atwoods-patriotism/)
 
 
http://fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca/2010/09/06/quote-of-the-day-canadian-patriotism/ (http://fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca/2010/09/06/quote-of-the-day-canadian-patriotism/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Croghan27 on September 06, 2010, 08:23:59 PM
Mandos-realself uses Twitter to keep in touch with professional cronies.  Few of the downsides of Facebook, but most of the most important upsides.

advance OT and drift before posting ... ::)

crogh finds that LinkedIn (http://www.linkedin.com/groupsDirectory) takes good care of his meager needs. It has connected him with several old workmates, keeps him up to date on what is going on in the gas/oily business quite well and even has been responsible in a couple of contract offers.

He was reticent at first, but when some of his peers appeared
:o he was convinced.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 06, 2010, 11:19:01 PM
This blog has interesting ideas and comments about Sun TV's viability:
 
http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/09/04/sun-tv-news-reality/ (http://blog.fagstein.com/2010/09/04/sun-tv-news-reality/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 07, 2010, 07:30:35 AM
Good background paper, Holly Stick -- thanks.

Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 07, 2010, 11:32:51 AM
So overnight Margaret Atwood was twittering, asking David Akin a lot of questions about what exactly Sun TV was asking for, etc, and Ezra the drama clown was throwing poo at her, so she blocked him and he's been screeching and hooting all over twitter since.  What a weenie.
 
Good long dissection at rabble:
http://www.rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/apicazo/2010/09/ezra-levant-vs-reality-prelude-fox-news-north-0 (http://www.rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/apicazo/2010/09/ezra-levant-vs-reality-prelude-fox-news-north-0)
 
and John Doyle brings some perspective and humour to it:
 
Quote
...This country being what it is, I can see a movement to demand an Atwood channel – all those movies based on Atwood novels and two seasons of The Atwood Stories airing around the clock. Plus, the author’s Tweets running in a ticker on the screen, 24-7...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/i-guess-sun-tv-news-only-works-if-shoved-down-our-throats/article1697495/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/i-guess-sun-tv-news-only-works-if-shoved-down-our-throats/article1697495/)
 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 07, 2010, 12:23:42 PM
My favourite tweet of the night is the one I copied to pogge's post, by someone called @PennyAmen: "By now clear that @ezralevant has a bit of a weird crush on @MargaretAtwood. He's like a 6 year old kicking the girl he likes in the shins."

Picazo's piece is great.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 07, 2010, 01:14:37 PM
My favourite tweet of the night is the one I copied to pogge's post, by someone called @PennyAmen: "By now clear that @ezralevant has a bit of a weird crush on @MargaretAtwood. He's like a 6 year old kicking the girl he likes in the shins."

Picazo's piece is great.

I like D. Gardner's tweet last night:
Quote
@cselley (http://twitter.com/cselley) What happened?? I was asleep but was jolted awake by the sound of tiny, stamping feet. 

He's twattling with Levant now over Levant's smear job on Soros.
 
ETA: Aug 20 article about Von Finckenstein being offered other jobs:
http://www.thewirereport.ca/reports/content/11177-government_offered_von_finckenstein_plum_jobs_to_push_him_out_report (http://www.thewirereport.ca/reports/content/11177-government_offered_von_finckenstein_plum_jobs_to_push_him_out_report)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 07, 2010, 04:05:46 PM
Antonia, did Ezra just RT you and cut out your message?  Is that ethical on twitter?
Quote
ezralevant (http://twitter.com/ezralevant) I predicted it. @a_picazo (http://twitter.com/a_picazo) went from denying Soros was a Nazi collaborator to excusing it in 2 hours. Typical lefty anti-Semite RT @AntoniaZ (http://twitter.com/AntoniaZ) 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 07, 2010, 04:25:11 PM
Antonia, did Ezra just RT you and cut out your message?  Is that ethical on twitter?
Quote
ezralevant (http://twitter.com/ezralevant) I predicted it. @a_picazo (http://twitter.com/a_picazo) went from denying Soros was a Nazi collaborator to excusing it in 2 hours. Typical lefty anti-Semite RT @AntoniaZ (http://twitter.com/AntoniaZ) 

For someone who isn't actually on Twitter, you are a much faster study than I was, Holly Stick.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 07, 2010, 04:38:01 PM
Well I googled "RT" when there was a discussion earlier and have spent too much time reading twitters yesterday and today.  I find that some individual twitter pages freeze and won't refresh for me, but this one keeps chugging along:
 
http://twitter.com/acoyne/canada-news (http://twitter.com/acoyne/canada-news)
 
So Ezra has now called a_picazo an anti-Semite; presumably on the basis of her article dissecting Levant's trash.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 07, 2010, 04:45:49 PM
Hmmn. Well, that is certainly a lot smarter than following my homepage, although I follow a lot of those peeps individually.

God, I am slow. But I don't mind learning. Each new thing is fascinating.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 07, 2010, 05:19:47 PM
Ezra is having a little tantrum today because Aheli nailed him.

Strictly speaking, he did not RT me. He replied. There's a difference.

Newman, er, Levant, must like being sued for libel.

He might want to Google a few of his heroes and see how they spent the Holocaust. I would never judge a 14 year old for what he did to survive. But comfy Newman does.



Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 07, 2010, 05:34:29 PM
In related news, Shaidle just told Gardner she could do his job better than him. :rotfl :rotfl
 
http://twitter.com/dgardner (http://twitter.com/dgardner)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 07, 2010, 05:41:11 PM
Ooooh, thank yew!
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 07, 2010, 05:41:54 PM
A sexist tweet of Shaidle's went by me sometime early today, something about how grateful Atwood should be for the attentions of a man half her age.

Yes, she meant Ezra.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 07, 2010, 05:50:00 PM
Here it is! 7 hours ago (if that can be trusted) and near the bottom of the page:
 
Quote
...you know, @MargaretAtwood (http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood) should be flattered that a man half her age is even paying attention to her.

 
ETA: should I belinking to them here?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 07, 2010, 05:54:52 PM
Yes, please. Link. I would lurve to RT that.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 07, 2010, 05:58:58 PM
Yes, please. Link. I would lurve to RT that.

http://twitter.com/kshaidle (http://twitter.com/kshaidle)
 
ETC: I had to hit "more" twice and go down almost to the bottom.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 07, 2010, 06:08:16 PM
You can link to the Tweet directly by clicking where it says x hours ago beneath the Tweet.

http://twitter.com/kshaidle/status/23240817488 (http://twitter.com/kshaidle/status/23240817488)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 07, 2010, 06:12:50 PM
You can link to the Tweet directly by clicking where it says x hours ago beneath the Tweet.

http://twitter.com/kshaidle/status/23240817488 (http://twitter.com/kshaidle/status/23240817488)
Oh I see. K, Tx bai.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 07, 2010, 06:25:18 PM
Tarek Fatah was twattling Atwood last night, before Ezra jumped in, I think, and apparently has now embellished the claim of Soros funding the petition to Michael Coren:
 
http://twitter.com/LibArtsAndMinds/status/23857184079 (http://twitter.com/LibArtsAndMinds/status/23857184079)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 08, 2010, 12:29:49 PM
Von Finckenstein writes in consternation that
 
Quote
...I would like to categorically state that no one at any level of government has approached me about the Sun TV application, the appointment of the CRTC's vice-chair of broadcasting, or my own mandate...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/sept-8-letters-to-the-editor/article1699050/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/sept-8-letters-to-the-editor/article1699050/)
 
Norman Spector wonders how come it took so long for him to become consterned:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/spector-vision/in-todays-news-on-fox-news-north/article1699335/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/spector-vision/in-todays-news-on-fox-news-north/article1699335/)
 
Cartoon:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/cartoon/dialogue/article1698729/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/cartoon/dialogue/article1698729/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 08, 2010, 02:05:16 PM
http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/mediaocracy/2010/09/08/once-more-with-nazis-antonia-zerbisias-versus-ezra-levant-in-fox-news-north-shoutfest-part-ii/#comment-41594 (http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/mediaocracy/2010/09/08/once-more-with-nazis-antonia-zerbisias-versus-ezra-levant-in-fox-news-north-shoutfest-part-ii/#comment-41594)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 08, 2010, 02:27:21 PM
http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/mediaocracy/2010/09/08/once-more-with-nazis-antonia-zerbisias-versus-ezra-levant-in-fox-news-north-shoutfest-part-ii/#comment-41594 (http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/mediaocracy/2010/09/08/once-more-with-nazis-antonia-zerbisias-versus-ezra-levant-in-fox-news-north-shoutfest-part-ii/#comment-41594)
I'm glad you got that good comment in, I thought his tone had little too much 'plague on both houses'.
 
ETA Impolitical on the von Finckenstein letter and a summary of the issue:
 
http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2010/09/crtc-chair-speaks.html (http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2010/09/crtc-chair-speaks.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 08, 2010, 02:48:33 PM
I thought his tone had a little too much 'plague on both houses'.
 

That's what the self-styled serious people, the insider villagers, do. It's called being fair and balanced (ie: be fair to the crooks and liars). It's very hard to fight.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on September 09, 2010, 02:35:26 PM
OMFG! FNN lawyers are threatening to sue us (Avaaz) if we don't change our petition within 24 hours! (https://secure.avaaz.org/en/fox_news_north_attacks/?cl=733456027&v=7114)


 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 09, 2010, 02:47:34 PM
Donut werry, Toe. They'll make noise and maybe smellies, but they won't get far. And Soros has deeper pockets.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 12, 2010, 12:53:52 PM
Levant attacking Atwood and telling various lies in the Sun.  Boy, his fans are stupid.  http://www.torontosun.com/comment/2010/09/10/15311936.html#/comment/2010/09/10/pf-15311936.html (http://www.torontosun.com/comment/2010/09/10/15311936.html#/comment/2010/09/10/pf-15311936.html)
 
Atwood wants to respond:
http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/24298929590 (http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/24298929590)
 
http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/24299042625 (http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/24299042625)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Croghan27 on September 12, 2010, 03:01:37 PM
FWIW the first reply I saw under the article was:
Quote
rod, boy you liberals hate it when the worm turns don't you! as if there   are any conservatives at the cbc you really don't have to wonder   why,after what, 12 years of liberal dictatorship and they still hold   that party line for their jobs.they do not represent my political   views,therefore i do not watch the cbc,yet i still have to pay for it!   how the hell do you think i feel about it
"T'was in another lifetime, Filled with toil and blood: When blackness was a virtue and the roads were filled with mud" - I used to be known a (da-dee) Rod.  8) Although for the life of me I cannot remember commenting on that story.  :confused

I tried to response sensibly to that assertion and point out that Rex Murphy would be surprise to learn he is part of (our) liberal plot to insert political correctness into the criminal code, and change the national sport to latte sipping.

I too ran into the Attwood conundrum - the open minded Sun paper would not accept my comment. Something about I did not get the code words correct ... (I even tried: "Meet me behind the old barn - I have the codes.") to no avail.  :crying
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 12, 2010, 03:31:58 PM
Well, now Atwood will have the chance to reply there:
 
http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/24306796143 (http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/24306796143)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 12, 2010, 03:41:20 PM
Well, now Atwood will have the chance to reply there:
 
http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/24306796143 (http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/24306796143)

Remind me: when the guys dunked our pigtails into the inkwells, how did we get even?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 12, 2010, 03:54:55 PM
I'm sure she'll think of something.  Remember when she compared the politicians pushing free trade to the beaver, which would supposedly bite off its own testicles and throw them to its pursuers?  :))
 
http://books.google.ca/books?id=HucDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA30&lpg=PA30&dq=atwood+beaver+testicles&source=bl&ots=seBMtTsxGv&sig=Du4p1Vr2zY_IzQv3m5R8WkSIDQg&hl=en&ei=1i6NTMbnEIi4sQPvubW8BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCEQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=atwood%20beaver%20testicles&f=false (http://books.google.ca/books?id=HucDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA30&lpg=PA30&dq=atwood+beaver+testicles&source=bl&ots=seBMtTsxGv&sig=Du4p1Vr2zY_IzQv3m5R8WkSIDQg&hl=en&ei=1i6NTMbnEIi4sQPvubW8BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCEQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=atwood%20beaver%20testicles&f=false)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 12, 2010, 04:03:43 PM
Poke poke poke

http://twitter.com/AntoniaZ/status/24312121907 (http://twitter.com/AntoniaZ/status/24312121907)

 :))
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 12, 2010, 04:15:10 PM
RT'd. (Damn, it's hard to cut the RTs down sometimes.)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 12, 2010, 04:24:59 PM
I agree. I always try to leave an extra 14 characters/spaces so that RT @AntoniaZ: can fit. I don't always succeed.

http://rays20.blogspot.com/2010/09/my-opinion-on-twitter-etiquette-for.html (http://rays20.blogspot.com/2010/09/my-opinion-on-twitter-etiquette-for.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 12, 2010, 09:30:18 PM
Besides Levant, there are two more examples of the Sun distorting facts:
 
What Rae really said yesterday about hockey funding:
 
http://bcinto.blogspot.com/2010/09/sun-distorts-raes-position-on-quebec.html (http://bcinto.blogspot.com/2010/09/sun-distorts-raes-position-on-quebec.html)
 
And this editorial which originally had Mark Bonokoski's name attached to it, and which keeps stressing Davey's connection to Ignatieff, which was apparently severed, and to Liberals:
 
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/editorial/2010/09/12/15327056.html (http://www.torontosun.com/comment/editorial/2010/09/12/15327056.html)
 
Much twittered, including: http://twitter.com/kady/status/24329176073 (http://twitter.com/kady/status/24329176073)

ETA: and a satirical (I think!) twitsite: http://twitter.com/SunTV_FoxNews (http://twitter.com/SunTV_FoxNews)
 
ETA: and Paul Wells:  :))
http://twitter.com/InklessPW/status/24341587511 (http://twitter.com/InklessPW/status/24341587511)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on September 14, 2010, 11:38:22 AM
Press release: Avaaz Requests Criminal Investigation into 'Stop Fox News North' Petition Fraud (http://newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2010/14/c9516.html)

There's a detail here I hadn't seen reported elsewhere: the IP address associated with the names that were fraudulently added to the petition is out of Ottawa. Avaaz has turned that address over to the RCMP.

ETA: Turns out Kady O'Malley had this a couple of hours ago (http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/09/avaaz-vs-sun-news-tv-redux-hey-remember-that-whole-petition-kerfuffle.html) and includes copies of the letters sent by the Avaaz attorney -- Clayton Ruby, no less -- to the RCMP and the Ottawa Police Service.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 14, 2010, 11:49:09 AM
Is Teneycke in Ottawa?  Alternatively, might it have come out of a Conservative government office?  Big scandal if so.
 
ETA: yes, Teneycke is head of Quebecor's Ottawa bureau:
 
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Former+Harper+spokesman+take+over+Ottawa+bureau+Quebecor/3128259/story.html (http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Former+Harper+spokesman+take+over+Ottawa+bureau+Quebecor/3128259/story.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 14, 2010, 01:27:27 PM
The outcome of this could be very interesting.

Not just re. the petition but the issue of identity fraud.

For example, I have found my name in the comments of blogs like Small Dead Assholes. Obviously somebody impersonating me. I am sure I am not the only one.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on September 14, 2010, 01:37:46 PM
I've seen that too. Not you, other somewhat-well-known people. Very hard to control.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on September 15, 2010, 10:15:52 AM
Teneycke has resigned from Quebecor effective yesterday afternoon. (http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/09/liveblogging-kory-teneyckes-announcement-on-parliament-hill.html)

ETA: I'm guessing that investigation into petition sabotage might get interesing. Just a guess, though.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 15, 2010, 10:21:12 AM
Teneycke has resigned from Quebecor effective yesterday afternoon.
 (http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/09/liveblogging-kory-teneyckes-announcement-on-parliament-hill.html)

Holy mackerel.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 15, 2010, 10:43:03 AM
If you're following along on Twitter, you'd get the distinct impression that Kory really was not popular among a lot of Canadian journos.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 15, 2010, 10:57:38 AM
Well, I figured that could happen with the investigation, but not this fast.  They are saying Luc Lavoie will replace him.  :p
 
 
ETA: Schadenfreude for breakfast! Nom nom nom...
 
http://twitter.com/InklessPW/status/24572997132 (http://twitter.com/InklessPW/status/24572997132)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on September 15, 2010, 11:59:52 AM
If you're following along on Twitter, you'd get the distinct impression that Kory really was not popular among a lot of Canadian journos.

What would ever give someone an idea like that? (http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/09/15/news-will-never-be-the-same/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 15, 2010, 12:08:39 PM
Atwood: " I didn't do it. Honest. It was the Great Pumpkin (plus a few Own Goals.)"
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 15, 2010, 01:44:48 PM
Schadenfreude leftovers for lunch:
 
John Geddes' very funny post:
 
http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/09/15/news-will-never-be-the-same/ (http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/09/15/news-will-never-be-the-same/)
 
And a couple more tweets I liked:
 
http://twitter.com/SusanDelacourt/status/24573158899 (http://twitter.com/SusanDelacourt/status/24573158899)
 
http://twitter.com/colbycosh/status/24576277551 (http://twitter.com/colbycosh/status/24576277551)
 
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on September 15, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
From the comments:
Quote
... he makes the announcement in a room at the Parliament buildings accompanied by a government adviser from Hill and Knowlton (http://www.hillandknowlton.ca/index.php/about_us.html).

Hmmm.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: sparqui on September 15, 2010, 02:25:49 PM
From the comments:
Quote
... he makes the announcement in a room at the Parliament buildings accompanied by a government adviser from Hill and Knowlton (http://www.hillandknowlton.ca/index.php/about_us.html).

Hmmm.

That comment caught my attention too!
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 15, 2010, 02:28:38 PM
Well spotted.  Alison mentions them some:
 
http://creekside1.blogspot.com/search?q=knowlton (http://creekside1.blogspot.com/search?q=knowlton)
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on September 15, 2010, 02:48:34 PM
Well, well, well. 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 15, 2010, 04:03:03 PM
So Teneycke's twitter account was closed down, which I did not realise might matter.  But David Eaves has an important screenshot and some good observations about twitter:
 
http://eaves.ca/2010/09/15/twitter-ciminal-investigations-fox-news-north/ (http://eaves.ca/2010/09/15/twitter-ciminal-investigations-fox-news-north/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 15, 2010, 04:15:30 PM
It's amazin', isn't it? Yet another of the puffed-up brigade seems not to get how the internet works. The bleeding Pentagon doesn't seem to get how the internet works, and they invented the thing.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on September 15, 2010, 04:32:22 PM
Montreal Simon had fun with this: http://montrealsimon.blogspot.com/2010/09/sad-and-fishy-story-of-kory-tv.html

Edited to add: Rue Frontenac, published by locked-out Journal de Montréal (Quebecor) journalists, has also weighed in: http://www.ruefrontenac.com/nouvelles-generales/55-enjeux/27696-sun-tv-teneycke-demission
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 15, 2010, 08:31:54 PM
Don Martin repeats some inaccuracies, but also has some good advice for Sun TV:
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/15/don-martin-with-teneycke-gone-sun-tv-can-get-on-with-business/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/15/don-martin-with-teneycke-gone-sun-tv-can-get-on-with-business/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
 
Oh, and Margaret Atwood's response to the Sun articles will be in the Sun on Sunday. :popcorn
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 16, 2010, 09:49:39 AM
So George Soros is suing the Sun over Ezra Levant's column about him; and Margaret Atwood is threatening to sue the Sun:
 
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20100915/kory-quits-100915/ (http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20100915/kory-quits-100915/)
 
Hat tip Impolitical and BCL:
http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2010/09/kory-story.html (http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2010/09/kory-story.html)
http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-did-i-tell-you.html#links (http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-did-i-tell-you.html#links)
 
John Doyle says Margaret won and Kory lost and Fox News North will be fun to write about:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-fox-news-north/article1709111/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-fox-news-north/article1709111/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 16, 2010, 12:41:26 PM
Am I blind? I don't see anything about a lawsuit.

ETA: http://www.indecisionforever.com/2010/09/08/michelle-malkin-loves-non-facts/?xrs=rss_indecisionforever (http://www.indecisionforever.com/2010/09/08/michelle-malkin-loves-non-facts/?xrs=rss_indecisionforever)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 16, 2010, 12:45:07 PM
Am I blind? I don't see anything about a lawsuit.
It's on the video with Richard Madan speaking.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on September 16, 2010, 12:49:25 PM
Am I blind? I don't see anything about a lawsuit.

I've been asking myself that all morning.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 16, 2010, 12:52:37 PM
Okay. I heard it. But I am googling ....

Incidentally, I can't even find the cache of Levant's column
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 16, 2010, 01:05:26 PM
Okay. I heard it. But I am googling ....

Incidentally, I can't even find the cache of Levant's column

Here: [ETA: removed in case of legal repercussions]
At the Sun site they still have (had?) comments on his column.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 16, 2010, 01:06:24 PM
I'm pretty sure that the first time I read Holly Stick's CTV link quoted here, the news about Soros was there. But now I don't see it. I also saw a photo of Soros somewhere, although maybe on another site. (Sheesh -- we all read too much.)


So George Soros is suing the Sun over Ezra Levant's column about him; and Margaret Atwood is threatening to sue the Sun:
 
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20100915/kory-quits-100915/ (http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20100915/kory-quits-100915/)
 
Hat tip Impolitical and BCL:
http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2010/09/kory-story.html (http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2010/09/kory-story.html)
http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-did-i-tell-you.html#links (http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-did-i-tell-you.html#links)
 
John Doyle says Margaret won and Kory lost and Fox News North will be fun to write about:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-fox-news-north/article1709111/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-fox-news-north/article1709111/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 16, 2010, 01:11:49 PM
The video clip shows Soros briefly, then Margaret Atwood.  Somebody [BCL?] said Levant still had the column on his website; it's gone now though the title is still listed in Levant's Archives at Sept 4. "George Schwartz..."
 
I found it cached and linked to that below.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 16, 2010, 01:14:10 PM
Doesn't matter if it's gone or not.

So many right-wingers quoted it, including in the US, that it is all over the place
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 16, 2010, 01:16:27 PM
I've printed a copy of the cached version from Sept 8. :popcorn
 
ETA: Atwood is not suing the Sun:
 
http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/24670011168 (http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/24670011168)
 
So that part of the CTV video is probably incorrect (though maybe she considered it, I dunno).
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Alison on September 17, 2010, 02:35:44 AM
G&M : Billionaire Soros threatening to sue Sun Media (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/billionaire-soros-threatening-to-sue-sun-media/article1711183/)
Quote
Billionaire George Soros is threatening to sue the Sun Media chain over a column penned by a conservative gadfly expected to play a key role in the media giant’s Sun TV venture.
   Soros spokesman Michael Vachon said the chair of Soros Fund Management was deeply upset by a early September Sun Media column by right-wing activist and author Ezra Levant.
 
In the piece, which has since been removed from Sun chain news websites, Mr. Levant offered his opinion of how Mr. Soros, a Hungarian Jew born in 1930, survived the Nazis.
 
Mr. Vachon said Sun Media was notified of Mr. Soros’s reaction earlier this week.
“It made false, defamatory and offensive statements and as a result Mr. Soros has notified the relevant parties of his intent to sue,” he said.
 

"conservative gadfly" *snerk*
 
Three months till the launch and knee deep in lawsuits and investigations already :popcorn
 
ETA :  Ezrant loses it on Alberta Primetime last night. (http://www.albertaprimetime.com/Stories.aspx?pd=1481&FlashVars=Video/PTG_091610.flv)
He compares Fort Chip tarsands oil production to human rights violations in Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Venezuela and then slags a very patient Mike Hudema of Greenpeace for refusing to go along with this bizarre moral equivalency.
Ezrant : "Goddamn coward ... you're a liar, a disgusting man, bullshitter ... con man, crook ... you little coward ... you bastard."
 
The face of Sun TV.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Boom Boom on September 17, 2010, 04:47:30 AM
The CBC's At Issue panel tonight was good - among other things, they felt there's zero chance Quebecor will get exactly what it wants. Andrew Coyne said that journalists rarely come out against having another media outlet (or words to that effect).
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 17, 2010, 05:56:56 AM

"conservative gadfly" *snerk*

I second that snerk.

Quote
ETA :  Ezrant loses it on Alberta Primetime last night. (http://www.albertaprimetime.com/Stories.aspx?pd=1481&FlashVars=Video/PTG_091610.flv)
He compares Fort Chip tarsands oil production to human rights violations in Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Venezuela and then slags a very patient Mike Hudema of Greenpeace for refusing to go along with this bizarre moral equivalency.
Ezrant : "Goddamn coward ... you're a liar, a disgusting man, bullshitter ... con man, crook ... you little coward ... you bastard."
 
The face of Sun TV.

That was exhausting to watch. It's great that some people are able to go through interviews like that with twerps like Ezra because I sure couldn't. I think I'd just go silent.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 17, 2010, 01:29:35 PM
So maybe that secret meeting was less about Sun TV than about Murdoch getting a toehold in Canadian media...
 
http://rabble.ca/news/2010/09/harper%E2%80%99s-meeting-murdoch-real-story (http://rabble.ca/news/2010/09/harper%E2%80%99s-meeting-murdoch-real-story)
 
Just watched that Primetime show; what an idiot Levant is!  The moderator needed a button to press to turn off his sound.  Someone should ask him which oil companies are in Darfur, etc and if some of the same companies are in the oilsands or elsewhere in Canada.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 17, 2010, 04:47:27 PM
Valuable profile from Gutstein. Sheesh -- I wish I could keep all this stuff in my head.

It's a horrible thing to say because what has happened in Darfur really has been a horrible thing, quite apart from any propaganda campaigns, but some years ago at babble I started to wonder at the diversionary use of Darfur as a reference from the CJC trolls. Any criticism of Israel -- automatic wails over Darfur. Pavlovian. Otherwise known as a talking-point, and for years now.

Somebody could also confront Ezra hard on his Saudi references. Boy, the U.S. neocons have only one tighter ally than Saudi Arabia, and it's Israel. Somewhere in Ezra's tiny mind, he must know that, although he won't admit it in public because KSA is one of them Mohammedan places we need to scare people with ...  The truth, o' course, is that the ally is the House of Saud, and that's all about oil and munnee of other kinds and a long history of shared criminality. It's neocons like Ezra -- well, not Ezra but the people he worships in the U.S. -- who've kept the forking House of Saud in place and still do. That's not the fault of Islam or the Saudi people -- it's the fault of criminal organizations like the Bush family, who are bestest friends with all those princes.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 17, 2010, 05:15:23 PM
http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/mediaocracy/2010/09/17/george-soros-threatens-to-sue-sun-media-after-nazi-comment/#comment-42860 (http://www.torontolife.com/daily/informer/mediaocracy/2010/09/17/george-soros-threatens-to-sue-sun-media-after-nazi-comment/#comment-42860)

 :popcorn
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 17, 2010, 05:28:22 PM
Thanks, o eerily prescient one!  :applause
 
I know of someone Levant has sued, something to do with Reform party insider disagreements I think, and I'm afraid to ask for details in case the person has apoplexy.
 
But it seems a shame he didn't get to run for MP in the end; wouldn't he just have graced Question Period?  :p
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 17, 2010, 05:35:04 PM
Well, it's a no-brainer.

I am still reeling from his meltdown with Hudema. Holy crap.  :o
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on September 17, 2010, 05:36:44 PM
It seems to me Levant has acted as his own counsel on occasion. I wonder if he'll go that route this time.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 17, 2010, 05:39:05 PM
It seems to me Levant has acted as his own counsel on occasion. I wonder if he'll go that route this time.
If so, he had better advise himself to shut up.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 17, 2010, 05:43:34 PM
Do we know whether he has a family he needs to spend more time with?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 17, 2010, 06:13:36 PM
Do we know whether he has a family he needs to spend more time with?
I have an idea he is married, but cannot find anything about that by googling (if I were her, I wouldn't want it to get out either).
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 17, 2010, 06:15:40 PM
(if I were her, I wouldn't want it to get out either).

 :rotfl
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on September 17, 2010, 07:22:57 PM
Less still, if the her turns out to be a him...
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on September 17, 2010, 07:39:24 PM
Scroll down to see Mercer's The John Baird Alarm System  :))  (http://www.xtra.ca/blog/national/post/2010/09/17/He-has-a-chauffeur!-Rick-Mercers-epic-John-Baird-smackdown.aspx)
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on September 17, 2010, 07:40:53 PM
From the comments that follow the Toronto Life item that highlights another of Antonia's triumphs over the forces of stoopid: 
Quote
... sometimes I wonder if he really doesn’t get that you can’t say this kind of stuff without consequences.
sheesh - if I had a loonie for each and every thing Ezra doesn't get, I'd be as rich as George Soros. :p
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 17, 2010, 09:24:46 PM
To my knowledge, he is unattached and has always been so.

ETA: I just searched on FB. I stand corrected. His status says ''Married.''

OH MY: http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages&ref=mb#!/ezralevant?v=wall&story_fbid=157376197606434 (http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages&ref=mb#%21/ezralevant?v=wall&story_fbid=157376197606434)
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on September 18, 2010, 09:31:20 AM
The retraction is up (http://www.torontosun.com/comment/2010/09/17/15388356.html).  The apology sounds a little grudgy to me.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Alison on September 18, 2010, 09:43:12 AM
Sounds a little 'definitely not settled' to me.
Quote
Despite constant efforts on both sides, Sun Media and Mr. Soros’s counsel were unable to reach agreement on the content of a retraction.
 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Boom Boom on September 18, 2010, 10:00:56 AM

OH MY: http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages&ref=mb#!/ezralevant?v=wall&story_fbid=157376197606434 (http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages&ref=mb#%21/ezralevant?v=wall&story_fbid=157376197606434)

In light of The Sun's apology, I wonder if this discussion on his FB page will be taken down?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 18, 2010, 10:02:55 AM
Sounds a little 'definitely not settled' to me.
Quote
Despite constant efforts on both sides, Sun Media and Mr. Soros’s counsel were unable to reach agreement on the content of a retraction.
 

Do you think their lawyers told Sun to go ahead and do it anyway, even if Soros hasn't agreed, because that is the best (if feeble) attempt they can make at pre-emptive retraction?

Keep the heat on, George.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 18, 2010, 10:03:53 AM

OH MY: http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages&ref=mb#!/ezralevant?v=wall&story_fbid=157376197606434 (http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages&ref=mb#%21/ezralevant?v=wall&story_fbid=157376197606434)

In light of The Sun's apology, I wonder if this discussion on his FB page will be taken down?

Oh, yeah, the Facebook thing ... When will public figures ever figure these things out, eh?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Boom Boom on September 18, 2010, 10:31:48 AM

Oh, yeah, the Facebook thing ... When will public figures ever figure these things out, eh?

I wonder if Mr. Soros is even aware of that FB page.
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on September 18, 2010, 10:43:30 AM
Quote from: Boom Boom
I wonder if Mr. Soros is even aware of that FB page.
He may not personally be, but his lawyers will be.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Alison on September 18, 2010, 11:17:33 AM
Quote
Do you think their lawyers told Sun to go ahead and do it anyway, even if Soros hasn't agreed, because that is the best (if feeble) attempt they can make at pre-emptive retraction?


Yup. Anyone know how long a publication has to put out a retraction after receiving legal notice?
 
Also : via BCL (http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2010/09/almost-starting-to-feel-sorry-for-kory.html), a second Kory/Kirk Schmidt prank/hack  (http://www.calgaryherald.com/entertainment/Would+news+network+boss+falls+sword/3532464/story.html)
.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on September 18, 2010, 12:07:25 PM
Is there some connection between our boy, Kory, and Kirk Schmidt (http://twitter.com/kirkschmidt)?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 18, 2010, 02:01:30 PM
What I am looking forward to is how Soros will get the Internet scrubbed of the libel, considering how many Blogging Tories, flying monkeys and even Michelle Malkin repeated it. I hope he sues her ass off.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 18, 2010, 03:36:09 PM
What I am looking forward to is how Soros will get the Internet scrubbed of the libel, considering how many Blogging Tories, flying monkeys and even Michelle Malkin repeated it. I hope he sues her ass off.
I saw something on Pajamas Media which repeated the libel and the comments went further, embroidering on it and concluding that Soros was a monster, etc.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 18, 2010, 04:18:55 PM
I have written in the Blog thread that I would not even link to the libel. I hope you guys read that!
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Croghan27 on September 18, 2010, 04:20:47 PM
What I am looking forward to is how Soros will get the Internet scrubbed of the libel, considering how many Blogging Tories, flying monkeys and even Michelle Malkin repeated it. I hope he sues her ass off.

George can follow the lead of the US Military in the case of Assange and Wikileaks. Demand that Levant turn over his assertions.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 18, 2010, 04:34:47 PM
I have written in the Blog thread that I would not even link to the libel. I hope you guys read that!
So I've now removed the link to the cached version of Levant's article on Soros, which I had posted on this thread.  Is that the kind of thing you are thinking of, Antonia?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 18, 2010, 04:55:53 PM
I was thinking more of the bloggers but it's probably safer to err on the side of caution.

If Soros is using his vast resources to ferret out everything, I am sure even little old us would be nailed.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 18, 2010, 04:58:59 PM
George can follow the lead of the US Military in the case of Assange and Wikileaks. Demand that Levant turn over his assertions.

I suspect that George -- unlike the Pentagon or Ezra -- is smart enough to know that that is impossible.

Funniest thing I've ever heard from the Pentagon (and the competition has been stiff): "return" the docs ... that you've already published ...  on the forking internet ... which the Pentagon invented!

That's why we call "military intelligence" one of the classic oxymorons.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 18, 2010, 05:38:15 PM
I was thinking more of the bloggers but it's probably safer to err on the side of caution.

If Soros is using his vast resources to ferret out everything, I am sure even little old us would be nailed.

Hey George! If you're reading this, I could do some research for you at a reasonable rate...    :beg
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 18, 2010, 05:46:09 PM

Hey George! If you're reading this, I could do some research for you at a reasonable rate...    :beg

George! She's worth it! We can testify!   :applause
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on September 18, 2010, 08:30:09 PM
 :iagree
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 18, 2010, 08:32:27 PM
 :hail They don't come any better, George!
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 18, 2010, 08:45:23 PM
 :embarassed  Well, thanks, folks; I think the group effort is really valuable, like a bunch of scientists all building up a mountain of evidence  :grouphug  and Debra, if you're watching, thanks for providing the lab in which we produce all sorts of weird and wonderful things. :stirthepot
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: sparqui on September 18, 2010, 11:17:25 PM
Your research skills are tops Holly but I have to say, your "Mein Puck" comment puts you in the top tier of brilliant wit.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 19, 2010, 12:10:48 AM
Your research skills are tops Holly but I have to say, your "Mein Puck" comment puts you in the top tier of brilliant wit.
Thanks, I liked it so much I've used it at a couple of Maclean's blogs. 8)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 19, 2010, 09:54:34 AM
New Facebook group: Vote Margaret Atwood's Turnip for Prime Minister of Canada (http://www.facebook.com/?sk=2361831622#!/group.php?gid=136031413110368)

You have to read her column in the Sun first to get the turnip thing.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 19, 2010, 11:17:29 AM
A good column, I like the way she wrote it for her audience there, spaced out and fairly simple.  Based on the comments, they can read but they cannot or will not understand.
 
There was something on her twitter yesterday about a turnip; and several good one-liners today:
 
Quote
...The Turnip denies rumours of affair with parsnip. It does have an underground life, but the memos are freely available.

http://twitter.com/margaretatwood (http://twitter.com/margaretatwood)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on September 19, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
http://twitter.com/margaretatwood (http://twitter.com/margaretatwood)

Love the latest:
Quote
                    The Turnip will now go   underground for some days, to ponder its future, If it runs for PM it   will have to give up gardening. Tough choice.                     

 :))

ETA: fix quotey thingey
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 19, 2010, 01:57:05 PM
A new blog post by Atwood which includes her Sun piece:
 
http://marg09.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-sun-article-the-great-pumpkin-and-the-purple-cross-eyed-zozzle-curse/ (http://marg09.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-sun-article-the-great-pumpkin-and-the-purple-cross-eyed-zozzle-curse/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on September 19, 2010, 02:22:30 PM
Why on earth does she use such hard-to-read white on black? Cripes, she is considerably older than I am and should be kinder to ageing eyes.

I sent Ms Atwood a comment to that effect, while also congratulating her on her blogue.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Boom Boom on September 19, 2010, 02:28:55 PM
A new blog post by Atwood which includes her Sun piece:
 
http://marg09.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-sun-article-the-great-pumpkin-and-the-purple-cross-eyed-zozzle-curse/ (http://marg09.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/the-sun-article-the-great-pumpkin-and-the-purple-cross-eyed-zozzle-curse/)

Thanks for this. I've subscribed to her blog.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Boom Boom on September 19, 2010, 02:30:52 PM
Why on earth does she use such hard-to-read white on black? Cripes, she is considerably older than I am and should be kinder to ageing eyes.

I have the same problem. I would prefer black on a white background.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 19, 2010, 02:36:03 PM
It isn't the worst of that ilk -- some people use a really dazzling white on black, and the problem there isn't one for aging eyes -- at least for me, much of that will give me an aura and I'll have to lie down in the dark for a while afterwards.

There is a way to adjust that on your own machine but I forget ...
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on September 19, 2010, 02:51:42 PM
There is a way to adjust that on your own machine but I forget ...
In Firefox, View->Page Style->No Style. That tells your browser to ignore the style sheet and just give you the raw page content.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 19, 2010, 04:06:15 PM
I have another way. Just highlight it like you're gonna copy/paste it
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 20, 2010, 08:59:41 AM
It's amusing to follow Atwood's tweets about the Turnip's possible run for PM:

Quote
The Turnip is not a pet! It shudders at the thought! No. It is a sensible veg. considering running for Canadian PM. @ShelleyACook

Quote
The Turnip wonders if it should join Margaret at the 92nd Street Y tonite in N.Y: get a taste of crowds. It's shy and not used to people.

Quote
The Turnip is suspicious of wedge issues. Anything wedge-shaped reminds it of kitchen cleavers, which understandably make it nervous.

Quote
The Turnip considers things from all angles, being round. Though if it runs for PM it will have to lose a bit of weight.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 20, 2010, 06:12:07 PM
So some writer named Shaidle  :p has an article on David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog all about George Soros; I won't link because she quotes parts of Levant's libellous article and talks about poor persecuted Sun TV, etc.  (google Soros and NewsReal Blog and you find it).
 
I guess since it's presumably an American blog she can't get sued; but I wonder if Ezra could be forced to send them corrections or something?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 20, 2010, 07:00:27 PM
Don Newman on Sun TV, which might cause problems for the Conservatives:
 
Quote
...Obviously with a resume that long, Lavoie is a grown-up. He can be direct, angry, profane. But when he is, it is for effect. No ad hominem, slagging character assassinations on people or rival organizations from him just because it feels good to do it...
 
 
 ...And no doubt when it is on the air, one of the first Sun TV headline events will be an "exclusive" interview with the prime minister. I'd expect the interview will seem more like a back rub for Harper than an inquiry...
   
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/09/20/f-vp-newman.html (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/09/20/f-vp-newman.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 22, 2010, 01:21:55 AM
Tonight I went back to Shaidle's article on NewsReal Blog and her quotations from Levant's article have been replaced by an editor's note saying Shaidle had received correspondence from Soros' lawyers.  The title of her article is "George Soros’ 8 Most Despicable Acts" - I'm pretty sure the 8 used to be a 9.
 
The editor's note links to Media Matters which I checked and which still has quotes from Levant's article.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 22, 2010, 06:37:25 AM
I think it's important that the text remain available, at least in critical contexts like the presentation at Media Matters. Well, this is the web, so it will remain anyway, but I should think that all that would matter to Soros is that the hate sites be stopped from repeating the libel without correction. But the docs should be there -- citizens deserve a chance to read and judge.

Shaidle -- Canada has no First Amendment. *major eyeroll*
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 22, 2010, 11:32:53 AM
Yes, her article has been amended at least twice, because this "(UPDATED AFTER THREAT BY SOROS’ LAWYERS)" was not there when I looked last night and that Editor's note at the front was also not there, I think.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 22, 2010, 01:18:19 PM
I have always hated Canada's libel laws because I think that, unlike in the US, they restrict journalists from telling a lot of truths.

However, I doubt these entries would pass muster even in the US as they definitely show malice.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.

They operate on US discourse rules (Coulter, Malkin, Beck, etc.) They would bring them to Canada if they could.

Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 22, 2010, 01:56:07 PM
I don't know the libel laws. I'm sort of restricted to the Charter and then the check on section 2 that is the hate-speech legislation, and the latter is indeed a check on free expression that the Merkins say they wouldn't tolerate. I'm not entirely happy with it myself, but I think that section 2 on its own is quite robust -- it says all the classic things it's supposed to say, and besides, these principles are deeply embedded in constitutional history back to the C17.

It's also true that the Merkins are putting severe limits on the First Amendment all the time. They don't do it through legislation; they do it through hysteria, propaganda, and prejudice. And forget the Fourth Amendment (probable cause) -- pretty much gone, by the same means. There are a few others that are a bit shaky on their pins right now. The Second, though (right to bear arms) -- that one's fine.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 23, 2010, 10:34:46 AM
Y'know, Ezra is just mean. This is his latest tweet:

Quote
 
I'll bet you Peg is a 9/11 Truther, too. #NationalTreasure RT @katewerk: @MargaretAtwood: A Moonbat's Tale http://tinyurl.com/3a984za
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on September 23, 2010, 10:40:49 AM
Scratch the surface of any of those fuckwads and you'll find MEAN.  They thrive on it.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: brebis noire on September 23, 2010, 10:46:27 AM
I don't read anywhere in that quote where Atwood is calling the moon landing a conspiracy. She's just asking a legitimate question.
Dumb and mean? Also, talk about an echo chamber.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 23, 2010, 10:56:56 AM
That story about her talking about the moon landing was mentioned a while ago, when people were trashing her for accepting that prize in Israel.  It was mentioned at babble, and maybe elsewhere, I forget.
 
http://www.rabble.ca/babble/culture/margaret-atwood-accepts-israels-dirty-prize-money-still-shameful (http://www.rabble.ca/babble/culture/margaret-atwood-accepts-israels-dirty-prize-money-still-shameful)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: brebis noire on September 23, 2010, 11:10:19 AM
You'd think a bunch of climate-change denialists could relate to Atwood's skepticism about the moon landing, if she's really questioning its veracity rather than just pointing out the obvious (i.e. that we've never really done much about or with the moon since...)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on September 23, 2010, 12:39:53 PM
Scratch the surface of any of those fuckwads and you'll find MEAN.  They thrive on it.
Shooting the messenger is a reflex with them. It's never enough to simply defeat the argument and agreeing to disagree isn't even on the table. If you're not in lockstep then you're a threat and you must be destroyed.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 23, 2010, 02:09:35 PM
I don't get it. If I were about to be sued by George Soros, I'd suddenly find a reason to spend more time with my family. Or at least I would think twice about everything I wrote. But there he is, front and centre, spewing fairly dodgy nonsense all day every day.

Shaidle is similar. It's like they have a sue-me wish or something. They want to be martyrs?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 23, 2010, 02:16:27 PM
National Post has the moon landing story, but to their credit they at least provide a transcript and a link to the interview (I haven't listened to it).  It looks to me like a fiction-writer speculating.
 
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/23/margaret-atwoods-just-wondering-about-that-silly-moon-landing-hoax/ (http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/23/margaret-atwoods-just-wondering-about-that-silly-moon-landing-hoax/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on September 23, 2010, 02:26:36 PM
Well let's face it, they certainly belong to a very ODD group, “oppositional defiant disorder (ODD).”  DSM defines ODD as “an ongoing   pattern of disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior toward authority (liberal/independent thinkers)  figures.”  Symptoms include losing one’s temper, annoying people and   being “touchy.”  Other “disorders” include antisocial behavior,   arrogance, cynicism and narcissism. Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

Speaking of the moon, there are many sources, including astronauts, who have said the dark side of the moon has activity and earth is not to interfere.  :p
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 23, 2010, 02:42:48 PM
 :alien
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Croghan27 on September 23, 2010, 04:32:31 PM
Quote from MA:

Quote
But   the questions about the computer technology needed to do something this   complex remain with us– what were they using, in those days before   microchips? How heavy was it?


The line I heard from someone at Mission Control in Houston was that they had the computing power of three Vic 20s.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: brebis noire on September 23, 2010, 09:34:23 PM
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/23/margaret-atwoods-just-wondering-about-that-silly-moon-landing-hoax/ (http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/09/23/margaret-atwoods-just-wondering-about-that-silly-moon-landing-hoax/)
 
They're obsessed with her.  :o  I wouldn't have thought they'd hang on to every word she says, but they do.
(Is absolute belief in the moon landing some kind of purity test? Like, if you even question it, it's a sure sign you're a commie?)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 23, 2010, 11:45:20 PM
Interesting; the comments after that article are pretty good after you get past several typical nasty rightwingers: people from the teenage radio station who are grateful to Atwood and a link to an engineers' blog about the Apollo Guidance Computer.
 
Also she had a long twitter conversation with Rob Breakenridge, which I haven't read yet.  He was the one who called her a moonlanding truther on Andrew Coyne's Canadian news twitter (the only one which keeps refreshing itself for me for hours and which many journalists show up on).  Breakenridge appears to be one of the more rightwing twits.
http://twitter.com/margaretatwood (http://twitter.com/margaretatwood)
 
Not long ago on the coyne twitter, several were talking about Eric Margolis' column asking questions about 9/11; and some there concluded he has become a 9/11 truther, though I am not convinced of that.  But again, the rightwingers don't like him and claimed the Sun dumped him just in time.
 
Incidently one of the Sun people fired by Teneycke has been rehired (Peter Zimonjic?).
 
One more thing about Atwood: she was getting together today with Ursula K. LeGuin - cool!
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 24, 2010, 12:04:21 AM
Breakenridge is host of a Calgary radio show (not on CBC so I don't know of him) and has blogged about his conversation with Atwood, but he leaves out some of her tweets such as one pointing out that the context was speculative fiction.  He seems to be a literalist, and doesn't like her ambiguous answers.
 
http://www.am770chqr.com/Blogs/RobBreakenridge/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10143524 (http://www.am770chqr.com/Blogs/RobBreakenridge/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10143524)
 
ETA: their own lines of twitter look like they may not be in the same order?  It's quite frustrating trying to reproduce a conversation from two different twitters.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 24, 2010, 07:31:36 AM
Very literal-minded, aren't they? I guess that's why Atwood finds it so easy to play with them -- oh, look, I've got another dolt today; let's see what rings I can run around him.

The alarm bells go off about here:

Quote
If someone were to say about the Holocaust, "there are many question" and "we'll never know if it really happened", it would be pretty clear that you'd be dealing with a Holocaust denier.
 
Not that I would equate even the most blatant moon-hoaxer to the odious claims of Holocaust denial. The only parallel being that, in very loose terms, both are the denial of a significant historical event.

Oh, no no, not that you would ever do that ... except you managed to raise it, eh? Implant the thought? So that other dolts could repeat it?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 24, 2010, 03:06:16 PM
Columbia Journalism Review about the libel on Soros.
 
http://www.cjr.org/the_kicker/toronto_sun_sorry_about_that_n.php (http://www.cjr.org/the_kicker/toronto_sun_sorry_about_that_n.php)
 
ETA: The Education Imagination:
 
http://fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca/2010/09/23/ezra-levants-vile-slander-updated/ (http://fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca/2010/09/23/ezra-levants-vile-slander-updated/)
 
http://fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca/ (http://fryeblog.blog.lib.mcmaster.ca/)
 
The first post reproduced Levant's libellous article; I left a message that he could be sued for repeating it, and he has altered it now.  He is checking with a lawyer about it.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 25, 2010, 07:18:49 PM
Ezra has this obsessive-compulsive thing about "the Saudis" going on Twitter. Like, every second or third post. A couple of times I've tried tweeting back about the House of Saud, which is, of course, what matters, some of Ezra's best friends' best friends, but he ignores those (although I think he responded indirectly to one by implying I was an anti-semite -- you know how that goes).

I honestly don't know how they get away with this. The House of Saud is a major major player in the MIC. They are a major major U.S. ally, Israel ally, Harper ally, UK ally ... I mean, they're there because WE PUT THEM THERE AND WE KEEP THEM THERE. Of course they're bastards, but they're your bastards, Ezra, not mine, and not the Saudi people's. And Islam has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on September 25, 2010, 07:23:02 PM
PS: I should just unfollow Ezra, shouldn't I. What a waste of time. It's like watching an accident in slow motion.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 25, 2010, 07:45:25 PM
Yeah, he keeps retweeting stuff onto the acoyne canada news one I've been following, leaving off part or all of the critical comments, but including lots of compliments to himself which probably nobody is interested in.  He wrote a nasty comment to Aheli Picazo, who keeps asking why he lied about Soros:
 
http://www.twitpic.com/2rxi6l (http://www.twitpic.com/2rxi6l)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Mandos on September 26, 2010, 01:04:46 AM
The whole thing with Soros-as-leftist-conspirator is kind of funny.  He's a mega-billionaire, um.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 26, 2010, 06:35:13 PM
Gotta hand it to Aheli, a Tweeter out west. She did that all by her lonesome.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 26, 2010, 06:41:21 PM
Yeah, I keep discovering that interesting people I read on the internet live in Calgary like me, but I don't know most of them (one, but not well).  I saw djkelly at a meeting once.
 
But I saw Alheli tweeting about the Calgary municipal election, so she's another one.  Watch out Toronto!  All your internet are belong to us.  8)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Mandos on October 04, 2010, 03:20:48 PM
Yogurt for global emperor:

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/10/02/when-the-yogurt-took-over-a-short-story/

(As part of a longer conversation about Randroidery.)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on October 05, 2010, 08:39:58 PM
Victory! :yay
 
Quote
...By withdrawing its application for the special condition or exception to its licence application, no hearing will be required. The awarding of a so-called "Category 2 licence" without exceptions, which Quebecor is now seeking for Sun TV, is a routine matter that normally does not require a public hearing...

http://www.ottawasun.com/news/canada/2010/10/05/15590186.html (http://www.ottawasun.com/news/canada/2010/10/05/15590186.html)
 
 
ETA: article by Peladeau:
 
http://www.ottawasun.com/comment/columnists/2010/10/05/15594716.html (http://www.ottawasun.com/comment/columnists/2010/10/05/15594716.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Boom Boom on October 05, 2010, 10:17:26 PM
I didn't realize how big the company was. From the link provided in the preceding post:
 
In addition to being the country’s biggest newspaper publisher — it publishes 44 dailies and 220 community newspapers across Canada — Quebecor Media also owns TVA, the most-watched French-language television network in the country, and LCN, the market-leading French-language cable-news channel.
 
The Sun TV all-news channel, set to launch in the first quarter of next year, will extend that convergence model.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on October 15, 2010, 10:14:20 AM
Impolitical about the Sun TV application:
 
Quote
This is a story  (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualites/quebec-canada/politique-canadienne/201010/14/01-4332281-harper-rappele-a-lordre-par-le-conseil-prive.php)that I don't believe got much attention yesterday but deserves some. La Presse has obtained briefs classified as "secret" sent from the Privy Council Office to the Prime Minister. The briefs are informational on the Sun TV application to the CRTC, from the summer. The highlight of yesterday's story is the note added to the documents by the clerk of the Privy Council, Wayne Wouters...

http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2010/10/privy-council-office-felt-need-to.html (http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2010/10/privy-council-office-felt-need-to.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on October 20, 2010, 03:37:40 PM
Let Freedom Rain has an update on Soros' possible lawsuit, that they are still evaluating whether to take further action:
 
http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2010/10/lfr-update-on-proposed-soros-suit-of.html (http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2010/10/lfr-update-on-proposed-soros-suit-of.html)
 
LFR also notes a Soros donation to Media Matters:
 
http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2010/10/take-that-ezra-beck-and-fox-news-soros.html (http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2010/10/take-that-ezra-beck-and-fox-news-soros.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 08, 2010, 08:26:52 AM
Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/nov/08/mounties-murdoch-sun-tv-news) falls for our propaganda! Report on Sun TV calls it Murdoch's and repeats the FNN label. Mind you, the Guardian has an interest in going after Murdoch whenever poss.

They get the story wrong at the end, and look at the photo they're running with it. The Musical Ride! LOL.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on November 08, 2010, 04:23:01 PM
Yeah, I saw your comment there, and someone else said the photo was taken near Windsor Castle.  But there is an RCMP connection according to Kady. The RCMP handed the file over to the OPS which has now decided to drop the matter.:
 
http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/11/avaazpetitionwatch-case-closed.html (http://www.cbc.ca/politics/insidepolitics/2010/11/avaazpetitionwatch-case-closed.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 08, 2010, 04:35:26 PM
Oh, yes -- I knew that mentioning the Mounties was legit, as many of the commenters seem to be denying. It was just the thought of the British thinking immediately of a pic like that as soon as the Mounties come up -- that was my morning laugh.

There are definitely some FNN defenders in those comments. The piece is badly put together, though, so it didn't seem worth it to me to argue with them.

Windsor Castle -- I dunno -- maybe? That's just as funny.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on November 08, 2010, 04:40:52 PM
Well there's definitely a fortress back in the mists.
 
Oh yes, and someone said there should be a lumberjack hiding in the trees with his girl, and I felt like responding: "No, no! A lumberjack dressed like a girl!"  :))
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 08, 2010, 04:52:54 PM
Oh, do it! Do it, Holly Stick.   :))
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: sparqui on November 08, 2010, 06:20:50 PM
Well there's definitely a fortress back in the mists.
 
Oh yes, and someone said there should be a lumberjack hiding in the trees with his girl, and I felt like responding: "No, no! A lumberjack dressed like a girl!"  :))

I second skdadl.  :applause :))
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on November 08, 2010, 06:31:23 PM
Well, of course:

BARBER:
I wanted to be... a lumberjack!

Leaping from tree to tree, as they float down the mighty rivers of British Columbia. The Giant Redwood. The Larch. The Fir! The mighty Scots Pine! The lofty flowering Cherry! The plucky little Apsen! The limping Roo tree of Nigeria. The towering Wattle of Aldershot! The Maidenhead Weeping Water Plant! The naughty Leicestershire Flashing Oak! The flatulent Elm of West Ruislip! The Quercus Maximus Bamber Gascoigni! The Epigillus! The Barter Hughius Greenus!

With my best buddy by my side, we'd sing! Sing! Sing!

[singing]
I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night and I work all day.

MOUNTIES:
He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BARBER:
I cut down trees. I eat my lunch.
I go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea.

MOUNTIES:
He cuts down trees. He eats his lunch.
He goes to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays he goes shopping
And has buttered scones for tea.

He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BARBER:
I cut down trees. I skip and jump.
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars.

MOUNTIES:
He cuts down trees. He skips and jumps.
He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing
And hangs around in bars?!

He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BARBER:
I cut down trees. I wear high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie,
Just like my dear Papa.

MOUNTIES:
He cuts down trees. He wears high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra?!

[talking]
What's this? Wants to be a girlie?! Oh, My!
And I thought you were so rugged! Poofter!...

[singing]
He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

He's a lumberjack, and he's okaaaaay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 08, 2010, 06:40:50 PM
Laframboise has turned up in comments at the Guardian, flogging her blogposts about her tragic experience with Kory (she links there, o' course). Gosh -- I wonder whether we've made this a trending topic in the Guardian. They must be sitting there and wondering "Where did all these Canadians come from?"
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on November 09, 2010, 03:59:32 PM
Alright, alright, I did it!  http://www.guardian.co.uk/discussion/comment-permalink/8323790 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/discussion/comment-permalink/8323790)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 09, 2010, 04:31:14 PM
Great post, "Stickwaver"!  *grin*

But you've already got a wingnut on your tail. I need a few minutes to reflect ...
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: sparqui on November 09, 2010, 04:46:14 PM
Two very good posts, Holly. What a cesspool of Harper-loving Canadian clowns. Did BT put out the word to swarm that Guardian piece?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on November 09, 2010, 05:07:18 PM
Thank you.  Well, I do think there may be some hired guns posting, but I daresay the word was sent out.  Unless it's one person with a bunch of sock puppets. 
 
But I've seen GabbyinQue commenting somewhere before, maybe Maclean's.  They wouldn't let me use Holly for a name.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on November 09, 2010, 06:20:25 PM
Good comment there, berlynn.   :applause
 
Colby Cosh and Ezra Levant were tweeting about the Guardian story yesterday, so word was definitely going around.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 09, 2010, 06:24:49 PM
Go Berlynn!   :applause

Memo going around Guardian editorial offices right now: Guys, is this a good sign or a bad sign? Do we want more Canadian stories or what? A few lousy paragraphs and we get this kind of activity?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on November 09, 2010, 06:31:53 PM
Meanwhile Donna Laframboise is writing her own version of the Fox News North story called "Slaying the Unicorn" which I consider a slander and a libel upon a poor mythical beast.  (Hat tip BCL)
 :popcorn
http://nofrakkingconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/slaying-the-unicorn-part-1/ (http://nofrakkingconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/slaying-the-unicorn-part-1/)
 
ETA: I think Cosh tweeted that the writer of the Guardian piece is a Canadian in BC.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on November 09, 2010, 06:58:54 PM
This story is such fun; and it's a lot easier to write about than writing a Nanowrimo novel.
 
Toronto Sun Family has opinions and advice about Donna's sad story, as in: "Always get a contract first."
 
http://torontosunfamily.blogspot.com/2010/11/tory-kory-fallout.html (http://torontosunfamily.blogspot.com/2010/11/tory-kory-fallout.html)
 
They also report that Peter Zimonjic has been fired yet again:
 
http://torontosunfamily.blogspot.com/2010/11/in-out-in-out.html (http://torontosunfamily.blogspot.com/2010/11/in-out-in-out.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on November 09, 2010, 07:35:32 PM
On a somewhat related note, check out #BeckFacts on Twitter.

Probably because of this:

http://mediamatters.org/research/201011090036 (http://mediamatters.org/research/201011090036)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 09, 2010, 07:35:52 PM
Donna was a columnist with the NaPo back in the overpaid Conrad days, and she's about as extreme rw as they got. There's another woman, an Ontario lawyer, who she's very like, name escapes me at the moment. Anyway, they both struck me as very thin and pinched on sensibility, pretending to free-market conservative "seriousness" but in fact doing not much more than old-fashioned bootstraps scolding.

But man, is she good at feeling sorry for herself, eh? That series has got everyone reading, but I think the general conclusion is that she's being silly, that however much she says she gave li'l Kory a hard time, she was in fact absurdly eager for the gig (eager enough to rearrange her life w/o a contract), and is now way OTT with the melodrama.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on November 09, 2010, 07:46:55 PM
I am trying to remember why she was dumped. I am not entirely sure it had to do with lay-offs but I could be wrong.

As for the lawyer, this one?

http://www.karenselick.com/ (http://www.karenselick.com/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 09, 2010, 07:58:54 PM
I am trying to remember why she was dumped. I am not entirely sure it had to do with lay-offs but I could be wrong.

As for the lawyer, this one?

http://www.karenselick.com/ (http://www.karenselick.com/)

That's her. Selick and Laframboise could be twins.

Antonia, I just can't follow Beck. I got to the cookstove stuff, and, like, I can't, y'know? It makes no sense to me. He mixes up rage against big corpses (which I can understand raging against) with ... well, cookstoves?!? Soros is stealing my hibachi? Is that what I should write?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on November 09, 2010, 08:14:50 PM
OMG, I just scanned Selick's March 26 2009 column in the National Post, in which she argued that government should not be funding science at all, let business do it because it would do just as good a job.  What a dimwit!  ::)
 
Laframboise doesn't seem quit e as dim, though I didn't read much of her stuff, just noting in passing her spelling of Al-Jeezera.  :p
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on November 09, 2010, 08:24:21 PM
re: Guardian comment:  M'girl was at class; I was catching up here and got caught up there.  Couldn't let it go.  That fucker, Berkley, pissed me off!
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on November 09, 2010, 11:29:14 PM
What can I call that evil Karen Selick that does not have the sexist overtones of "bitch" but is just as nasty and cutting? That piece of shit (nice neutral term) lives in Belleville and for years, if not decades has been dumping on poor people, although she probably moved from somewhere posher to Eastern Ontario for cheap rent and "handypeople".

I pray for her to get her skinny arse sued off and have to go to work cleaning toilets until she dies.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on November 10, 2010, 10:02:06 PM
I am way to frakking tired to deal with this piece of work (http://nofrakkingconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/11/10/margaret-atwood-should-resign-from-pen-international/)!  Stranded in Winnipeg cuz Regina had a freak snowstorm and planes could not land.  Air Canada has housed and fed me at the Sandman Inn near the airport, but I was up at 5 a.m. EST and it is now 9 p.m. CST and I'm tired and grumpy.

Anyway, here's part of what Donna Laframbois says (and my apologies if this has already been discussed):

Quote
<blockquote>PEN stands for the principle of unhampered   transmission of thought within each nation and between all nations, and   members pledge themselves to oppose any form of suppression of freedom   of expression in the country and community to which they belong…
 
</blockquote>  Shortly after nine pm on the last day of August, however, Atwood published (http://twitter.com/MargaretAtwood) a message on Twitter that read:
 <blockquote>I’ve just signed a petition at Avaaz.org (http://avaaz.org/). Join me! http://tinyurl.com/3aau3dy (http://tinyurl.com/3aau3dy) [see a screengrab here (http://nofrakkingconsensus.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/atwood_petition_twitter_aug31.jpg)]</blockquote>  The second link in that message directed Atwood’s (now more than   99,000) Twitter followers to a web page. What did these followers see   when they arrived? A large, bright, pink headline that shouts: Canada: Stop ‘Fox News North’.
The target of this page is a Canadian-owned, right-leaning television   channel called Sun TV that isn’t scheduled to begin broadcasting until   January (see Part 1 here (http://nofrakkingconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/slaying-the-unicorn-part-1/)). Nevertheless, the three paragraphs of text directly below the headline claim (http://www.avaaz.org/en/no_fox_news_canada/?cl=716944315&v=7018) to be clairvoyant.
The new television channel represents the addition of “American-style   hate media” to Canadian airwaves. The channel will “mimic the kind of   hate-filled propaganda with which Fox News has poisoned U.S. politics.”   It is a “nightmare” and, one more time for good measure, it’s an example   of “American-style hate media.”
This web page does not simply advocate censorship, it advocates preemptive censorship. Based on what a New York-based (http://www.avaaz.org/en/contact/)   activist group thinks a Canadian media company is going to say months   from now, this web page declares that ‘Fox News North’ must be stopped.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on November 10, 2010, 10:21:48 PM
You know, all the people who claim that this project is going to be Fox News North are dead wrong.

Quite apart from the fact that there is no affiliation, although there may be eventually, our regulations and legislation restrict one-sided partisan bullshit.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/B-9.01/page-1.html#anchorbo-ga:l_I-gb:s_3 (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/B-9.01/page-1.html#anchorbo-ga:l_I-gb:s_3)

There's a reason we don't have raving crazy Rush Limbaughs here. Thank the CRTC.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on November 10, 2010, 10:29:43 PM
I don't disagree with you, Antonia, but I really do believe that their actions indicated that they did, in fact, want Fox News North here.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on November 10, 2010, 10:52:56 PM
Yup. I think they were just trying to sell it to their constituents that way, as well as generate buzz. In that, they succeeded. Too well.

Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 11, 2010, 08:38:53 AM
It's amusing that Laframboise inserts her screengrab of Atwood's tweet. People only do that when they expect the original will be an embarrassment that the tweeter will try to disappear. But Atwood isn't embarrassed; the thing is reproduced all over the place; and Atwood hasn't tried to disappear it, has repeated it herself. Donna has delusions of being a detective.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on November 11, 2010, 08:47:17 AM
Unless I was too tired to notice, Laframboise is too chickenshit to have comments on her post.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 11, 2010, 08:57:35 AM
Where are you, Berlynn -- in an airport?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on November 11, 2010, 09:14:30 AM
Air Canada put a planeload of us up at various hotels in Winnipeg.  I'm at the Sandman.  It's nice, but I'd rather be at home...or have spent an extra night with m'girl in Ottawa.

I don't have the stomach to revisit Laframboise (what is the translation of that, anyway?  Strawberry?) right now, but I'll attempt to respond with a blog post later.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on November 11, 2010, 09:22:56 AM
Well of course you'd rather be home or still in Ottawa, but Air Canada was doing the right thing in terms of safety and putting you up under decent conditions. I had to fight tooth and nail to get some shitty carrier (Air Transat, I believe) to ensure me a taxi and a hotel room in Paris where we'd be arriving at about 3 am after an 18-hour delay at the defunct Mirabel Airport (aka white elephant). People had no access to food and little to water - babies were crying. That is a dangerous situation for people with diabetes and other chronic health conditions. I was stuck taking Air Transat as I was working at a conference and there were no other seats left on "real" arilines.

Edited to add: Of course Laframboise means the Raspberry, not the Strawberry. Lagatta had not even drunk her cup of coffee when she made that huge blooper. Yes, Laframboise means the Strawberry. So we'll imagine the Strawberry banging away on her Blackberry. A lot of those odd names here were actually noms de guerre among troops of the French régime. Lafleur is another common one.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on November 11, 2010, 09:26:58 AM
la framboise is raspberry, no? la fraise is strawberry.

Funny thing about that name: my oncologist in Toronto is Dr Laframboise, only other person I've known with the surname. She is a petite blonde, just like Donna, very pretty, almost fragile-looking, except she runs around her clinic in running shoes and is actually exceptionally tough and smart. I always wondered about a relationship there but was too shy to ask. 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on November 11, 2010, 09:37:28 AM
Yes of course a framboise is a raspberry, not a strawberry (fraise). I'm really not awake yet - I slept in quite late and immediately started computering, answering a work request etc. Hope I didn't make any huge bloopers like that there!

Raspberry is even better in English in terms of giving someone the raspberry aka the Bronx Cheer.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on November 11, 2010, 12:47:57 PM
Quote
As for the lawyer, this one?

http://www.karenselick.com/ (http://www.karenselick.com/)

I note she was in the refreshed Globe yesterday. In fact, she's been there a few times.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/time-to-lead/healthcare/nobody-should-profit-from-health-care-get-real/article1792271/?cmpid=rss1 (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/time-to-lead/healthcare/nobody-should-profit-from-health-care-get-real/article1792271/?cmpid=rss1)

Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on November 11, 2010, 02:08:29 PM
Disgusting. Note the extremely poor quality of the text in journalistic terms; for example, her sloppy misuse of the term "profit", confusing profit in the economic sense and "to profit from" in the sense of benefit from. But I guess she thinks ordinary workers, including orderlies, are profiteers.

As for the deserving poor, she is a professional poor-basher - just look back over her welfare and poverty category on her own website. She has written endless letters in to the Globe and Mail, the Post, no doubt more local papers, bashing the poor and their vcrs (in the day).

She simply doesn't understand the difference between profit and non-profit sectors of an economy, or refuses to understand it, as she wants everything to be market-based.

Now I REALLY have to go outdoors to get some exercise and run some errands - it is sunny and almost warm!

ciao! :bike 8) :bike
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on December 04, 2010, 09:45:11 PM
Wow! Demo of some 10,000 people in support of the Journal de Montréal workers who have been locked out for almost 2 years - support from ALL the sometimes warring trade union confederations, from about everyone progressive on the political scene. Lovely scenes against the first serious dusting of snow of the year.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on December 04, 2010, 10:35:38 PM
Here is more from the Journal de Montréal workers' site, Rue Frontenac, about today's magnificent demo!

http://ruefrontenac.com/nouvelles-generales/101-travail/31134-un-grand-moment-solidarite
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on December 05, 2010, 12:22:56 AM
 :applause Vive l'Montreal (and thanks Google for the translation).
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on December 05, 2010, 09:44:55 AM
berlynn, I tried to find something in English, but there was nothing at CBC Montreal - they are really understaffed and don't update over the weekend - there is an article in the Montreal Gazette but I constantly get logged off that site - montrealgazette.com - and couldn't access the article about the demonstration. As I write, it is on the front page as you open the site.
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 05, 2010, 12:11:09 PM
Few news items (http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&&sa=X&psj=1&ei=ccb7TIOONInPnAfWubzJCg&ved=0CBgQvwUoAQ&q=journal+de+montreal+demonstration&spell=1&fp=f62009e67b178222) about the big demo.  I did hear it on Radio-Canada, but that was all.
 
lagatta, have you seen this piece in a past Voir about Richard Martineau and his deference for Pierre Karl Péladeau (http://www.voir.ca/blogs/cyberboom/archive/2010/11/24/richard-martineau-entre-la-veste-r-233-versible-et-la-nudit-233.aspx), the Lord Black of Québecor?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: lagatta on December 05, 2010, 12:40:48 PM
I hadn't read the Voir article, but will. Later on, as I have a co-op board meeting now.

Perhaps someone could copy the Gazette article? It is always a problem when demos are on Saturday, as there isn't a lot of media coverage on a Sunday here.

A local activist sent around these photos of the demo. I guess the bit of snow made people dress up warmly, but actually it wasn't very cold; just hovering at zero.

http://web.me.com/jyelle/MarcBonhomme/Photos/page1/page1.html
Title: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: deBeauxOs on December 05, 2010, 12:46:26 PM
Perhaps someone could copy the Gazette article? [...] A local activist sent around these photos of the demo. I guess the bit of snow made people dress up warmly, but actually it wasn't very cold; just hovering at zero. 

Is there one?  I haven't found it yet. 
 
Strange you had snow, there was no precipitation in Ottawa yesterday though damp and chilly. 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on December 05, 2010, 04:10:18 PM
http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Protesters+march+solidarity+with+workers/3928955/story.html (http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Protesters+march+solidarity+with+workers/3928955/story.html)

Quote
Protesters march in solidarity with Journal de Montréal workers
253 employees locked out since January 2009   By Andy Riga, The Gazette  December 4, 2010                                      MONTREAL - Supporters of 253 locked-out Journal de Montréal workers held a rally and a march on Saturday afternoon.
Organizers estimated about 3,000 people took part.
Blowing   whistles and carrying red balloons and signs calling for a boycott of   the newspaper, the protesters marched to the offices of the Journal de   Montréal on Frontenac St.
The Confédération des syndicats   nationaux and other groups behind the event are pushing for a settlement   in the dispute and calling for a modernization of provisions in   Quebec's labour code banning the use of strikebreakers in   labour-management disputes. 
The unionized Journal workers have been locked out since Jan. 24, 2009.
On   Friday, the Parti Québécois opposition presented Bill 399 in the   National Assembly to update provisions in Quebec's labour code banning   the use of strikebreakers.
Inspired by the lockout at the   Journal, which has continued to publish despite the lockout of its   unionized staff, the bill would take into account technology developed   since Quebec's anti-scab law was adopted in 1979.
The law   focused then on stopping replacement workers, or strikebreakers, from   crossing picket lines to do the jobs of workers who were on strike or   locked out. Using electronic means, the Journal de Montréal can call on   writers, editors and photographers who never enter its offices to do the   jobs of those who are locked out.© Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette


Quebec is a seriously union province, non?
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on January 06, 2011, 12:44:01 AM
It's reported that Teneycke is returning to Sun TV:
 
http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/01/05/kory-teneycke-to-return-to-sun-tv-news/ (http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/01/05/kory-teneycke-to-return-to-sun-tv-news/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on January 06, 2011, 03:40:37 PM
Here's a couple of tweets about it:
 
http://twitter.com/lisallynch/status/22779949941260288 (http://twitter.com/lisallynch/status/22779949941260288)
 
http://twitter.com/dgardner/status/22732802571108354 (http://twitter.com/dgardner/status/22732802571108354)
 
ETA: and the detailed G&M article:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/kory-teneycke-gets-back-in-saddle-at-sun-tv-news/article1858766/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/kory-teneycke-gets-back-in-saddle-at-sun-tv-news/article1858766/)
 
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on April 18, 2011, 09:01:40 AM
Sun Media Watch @ Rabble (http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/media-watch/2011/04/dont-be-blinded-suntv-read-rabbles-sun-media-watch-blog)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Alison on April 19, 2011, 05:34:04 AM
Feschuk : Sun News Network: Hard News. Straight Talk. Short Skirts (http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/04/19/sun-news-network-hard-news-straight-talk-short-skirts/)
 
The Launch, in which Ezra seizes the first available opportunity to show his five-year-old Danish cartoons depicting Muhammed on his new tv show.
Yeah, this is going to be a comedy gold mine.
 :popcorn
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on April 19, 2011, 02:11:08 PM
Feschuk is fun to read. I'm starting to feel sorry for the poor humour-impaired commenters there who really don't understand what's so funny.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: skdadl on April 19, 2011, 04:02:37 PM
I'm starting to feel sorry for the poor humour-impaired commenters there

Harden your heart. ;)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on April 19, 2011, 09:42:04 PM
I am having such a good time tweeting this and RTing others.  :))
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Alison on June 29, 2011, 02:36:46 AM
Remember SunNews' on-air bullying of dancer Margie Gillis regarding her arts grants?
 
Quote
Canadian Broadcast Standards Council national chairman Ron Cohen says his organization has received more than 4,100 complaints about a June 1 interview between host Krista Erickson and Quebec-born dancer Margie Gillis.
 
The council typically receives about 2,000 complaints in an entire year.
 
the council issued a release Tuesday asking Canadians to stop sending in complaints (http://www.ccnr.ca/english/documents/prs/2011/110624-clarifications.php) because the volume of letters already exceeds the council's resources.
 

Link (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/complaints-about-sun-news-interpretive-dance-interview-overwhelm-watchdog/article2078995/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on June 29, 2011, 01:34:04 PM
John Doyle takes a swipe at that in his latest column:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/love-in-the-wild-its-jiggle-in-the-jungle-time/article2079166/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/love-in-the-wild-its-jiggle-in-the-jungle-time/article2079166/)
 
And his column from June 9 about that interview:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/sun-news-network-canadas-new-comedy-central-tv/article2052345/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/sun-news-network-canadas-new-comedy-central-tv/article2052345/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: k'in on June 29, 2011, 09:33:10 PM
Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.  [cynical mode on]  The CBSC link comes across as Onion-ish.  The stats say that Sun News isn't getting 4100 viewers most of the time, yet we are to believe that that many people took the time to make a complaint?  Do we know who these complainants are?  Is it possible to freep the CSBC?  As John Snobelen used to say "create a [s[tempest in a teapotcrisis."  If there's anything that Sun News needs it's a controversy/reaction/attention....anything to attempt to elevate it from the depths of the moribund.[/cynical mode off]
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on June 29, 2011, 10:21:12 PM
There are a lot of dance fans and many of them read John Doyle. Plus there is a Facebook group.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on September 22, 2011, 06:06:53 PM
I just listened to a clip of Charles Adler and Krista Erickson talking about the 22 Minutes satire of Krista and Margaret Atwood. Wow, what boring people! Neither of the two could work up any emotion or even fake some emotion, and their lack of humour is stultifying.  :p
 
Here's the 22 Minutes clip which is a heck of a lot funnier than the Sun bores:
 
http://www.cbc.ca/22minutes/clips.html?ID=2137209317 (http://www.cbc.ca/22minutes/clips.html?ID=2137209317)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: sparqui on September 22, 2011, 07:50:07 PM
LOL! :applause :))
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on September 22, 2011, 08:00:30 PM
 :applause
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on September 22, 2011, 09:00:51 PM
Stolen for Facebook and Twitter
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Berlynn on September 22, 2011, 10:41:49 PM
Oh, that 22 Minutes clip was marvy!   :applause

And I loved the blatch bit, too!  I've been replacing bitch with blatch at every opportunity! :))
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on October 13, 2011, 11:50:52 AM
John Doyle slices and dices Sun News, Levant and Lilley:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/sun-news-the-comedy-branch-of-the-conservative-party/article2199159/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/television/john-doyle/sun-news-the-comedy-branch-of-the-conservative-party/article2199159/)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Holly Stick on October 20, 2011, 01:47:21 PM
Robert makes a good argument for funding the CBC:

Quote
As far as I'm concerned, watching the CBC drive conservatives bonkers is well worth the money it costs us.

http://twitter.com/#!/RJMcClelland/status/127033584845467650 (http://twitter.com/#!/RJMcClelland/status/127033584845467650)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Antonia on October 20, 2011, 10:46:48 PM
 :applause
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on October 25, 2012, 10:16:36 AM
Cops investigating Levant's rant on Roma's.  :applause  Hope it scares the shit out of the little man.


http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1276898--roma-group-s-complaint-against-ezra-levant-prompts-toronto-police-investigation (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1276898--roma-group-s-complaint-against-ezra-levant-prompts-toronto-police-investigation)








Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Alison on January 23, 2013, 05:06:41 PM

Sun News is applying to CRTC for mandatory carriage in April, arguing "its signal must be broadcast into every Canadian home if it is ever going to recover from losses of $17-million a year ."

Pleading that Sun News is "the strongest voice for the pro-life cause in Canada", it is asking LifeSite for lobbying help with its petition to the CRTC

h/t Alberta Diary (http://albertadiary.ca/2013/01/sun-news-network-pleads-with-anti-choice-group-to-back-its-quest-for-right-to-life-subsidy.html) for LifeShite link


Toe : :hug
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: pogge on January 23, 2013, 07:08:34 PM
Pleading that Sun News is "the strongest voice for the pro-life cause in Canada", it is asking LifeSite for lobbying help with its petition to the CRTC


So they're admitting that they're doing advocacy. Can you imagine the uproar that would follow if any other broadcast operation that claimed to be doing news also claimed to be "a strong voice for reproductive choice?"

Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Alison on January 23, 2013, 10:12:18 PM
Exactly but the line between news and opinion/advocacy is very blurry at SunNews at the best of times. They do not differentiate.

However it is one thing for SunNews to give Campaign Life Coalition their own spot every Monday and have a few of their on air 'personalities' like Michael Coren and Brian Lilley and Charles Adler do anti-choice 'editorials', but quite another for the company VP to ask LifeSite to help them get taxpayers dollars for advocacy.

Quote
Teneycke told LifeSiteNews. “In our case the public comment period closes on February 20th.  We need to demonstrate a groundswell of support for Sun News, and the readers of LifeSiteNews can help.”


David Climenhaga at Alberta Diary advises :
Quote
readers who wish to make a submission to the national broadcast regulator about the Sun News Network application to send it by Feb. 20 to send a letter citing reference number 2012-0687-1 to CRTC, Ottawa, Ont., K1A 0N2. The letter should start or end with either “I request to appear at the public hearing” or “I do not want to appear at the public hearing.”

Or submit comment directly to CRTC : http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-19.htm#10

Sun News 2012-0687-1 is 2/3 way down How to Submit page.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Toedancer on January 29, 2013, 06:52:38 PM
How to manufacture a story: David Suzuki Edition
http://offtherecordnocomment.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/how-to-manufacture-a-story-david-suzuki-edition/


 :popcorn
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Boom Boom on February 23, 2013, 07:52:22 PM
Petition: Stop “Fox News North” from being on every TV in Canada. (http://action.sumofus.org/a/sun-news/136/312/?akid=1347.832676.4eYXZr&rd=1&sub=fwd&t=1)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Debra on August 09, 2013, 06:00:39 PM
Claim denied -- however CRTC is going to reevaluate their conditions. sigh....


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/08/08/pol-crtc-sun-tv-news-ruling.html (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/08/08/pol-crtc-sun-tv-news-ruling.html)
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: arborman on September 22, 2013, 08:52:31 PM
I am actually somewhat torn on this issue.

On the one hand, I find literally nothing redeeming about Fox News or its ilk.  On the other, free speech is more important than my personal opinions about anything.  Blocking one media outlet because I dislike (everything) about them is a very dangerous and highly suspect position.

However, I also have a real issue with the whole concept of 'bundling' particular channels - essentially forcing many people to pay for something they might not want.  This is not health care, which is a human right.  This is television, and there is no good argument for forcing a shared cost model onto the many viewers who have no interest in a flagrantly biased right wing propaganda voice.

If the channel is available to people who choose to pay for it, that is fine with me.  If the channel is forced on people who don't want it, I don't like it.  I don't like any channels being forced on anyone.  Though when we are talking about TV, it is all optional so force is a funny sort of word to use.

My final point is that it is all becoming moot fairly quickly.  I haven't had cable of any sort in over a decade.  I haven't had television in about as long - all of our entertainment comes through the web (or from the library).  Few people I know pay for cable anymore, and the number shrinks every year.  The number of people under 40 in my circle who pay for that stuff is exactly zero. So in some ways this seems like a passionate debate over seating arrangements on the Titanic.
Title: Re: Fox News North: Quebecor & Teneycke
Post by: Boom Boom on September 23, 2013, 07:35:07 AM
Doesn't the Sun argument carry over to satellite coverage as well?